Transcript: Episode 0066
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WEBVTT 00:00:37.291 --> 00:00:39.471Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.771 --> 00:00:40.751 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.771 --> 00:00:41.191 Mahler. 00:00:41.791 --> 00:00:43.011 And I'm still Woe. 00:00:45.471 --> 00:00:48.331 On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing jealousy. 00:00:48.791 --> 00:00:53.511 Before we get into the meat of the episode, just a couple brief minutes of housekeeping. 00:00:53.551 --> 00:00:56.951 First, I apologize that we did not have an episode last week. 00:00:57.291 --> 00:01:01.011 We had originally planned last week to do an episode on inheritance. 00:01:01.871 --> 00:01:24.251 And towards the end of preparing for that, as I was thinking of my remarks, to introduce one of the things necessary for inheritance, which was jealousy, my first 15-minute preamble got to be 30 and 35 and 40 minutes, and I started talking to Corey about it, and we realized there's an entire episode there just about jealousy, and it's actually really important to do it before the inheritance one. 00:01:24.351 --> 00:01:31.751 So we try to get an episode out every week, but at the same time, when we lay down an episode, we're putting something in a library. 00:01:32.111 --> 00:01:37.431 That's really how we see it, because it's how almost everyone ends up listening to our episodes. 00:01:37.731 --> 00:01:44.371 We love that people are listening live, but most of the people who listen to this episode won't be listening to it. 00:01:44.391 --> 00:01:47.851 You know, the day after we record it, they'll be listening to it months or years later. 00:01:47.971 --> 00:01:56.411 So as a result, it's more important for us to have each episode be deserving of being in that library than hitting an arbitrary schedule. 00:01:56.431 --> 00:01:58.671 So I apologize for the recent unreliability. 00:01:59.111 --> 00:02:01.031 It's not us being flaky. 00:02:01.331 --> 00:02:04.431 It's just that sometimes doing it right means putting it off a little bit. 00:02:04.451 --> 00:02:08.131 So this week is jealousy, and next week will be about inheritance. 00:02:09.051 --> 00:02:12.291 Second brief housekeeping item, the challenge coins. 00:02:12.771 --> 00:02:15.191 We mentioned those a few weeks ago and then haven't said anything. 00:02:15.711 --> 00:02:23.711 Haven't said anything, A, because there's no news and B, because I don't want to clutter up these library episodes with kind of housekeeping things that aren't relevant. 00:02:24.811 --> 00:02:26.551 Sorry that we don't have any new news. 00:02:26.571 --> 00:02:31.951 Cory is waiting for the proof to come back because we're doing Moai head. 00:02:32.551 --> 00:02:34.311 It's going to have a 3D effect. 00:02:34.831 --> 00:02:37.891 We need to make sure that actually looks right because you can't really photograph it. 00:02:38.671 --> 00:02:44.111 So as soon as that is, as soon as he gets a proof and we have final news, we'll be saying a lot more about it. 00:02:44.631 --> 00:02:48.391 We didn't initially intend to make the announcement when we did. 00:02:48.671 --> 00:02:50.631 We didn't want to like keep people in limbo. 00:02:51.071 --> 00:02:56.631 But when Cory put up the test site for ordering, people started discovering and started ordering and asking questions. 00:02:56.651 --> 00:03:01.511 And so that's the reason that we did it before we were really quite completely ready to go. 00:03:01.551 --> 00:03:05.331 So if you've ordered and you're wondering for news, apologize for that. 00:03:05.811 --> 00:03:07.731 It's not that we're again being flake. 00:03:07.751 --> 00:03:09.671 It's just we're trying to make sure we get it right. 00:03:09.791 --> 00:03:12.791 And that's more important than getting it as quickly as possible. 00:03:13.091 --> 00:03:15.671 This is not a place where things get done fast. 00:03:16.011 --> 00:03:17.191 They got done properly. 00:03:17.711 --> 00:03:19.551 And hopefully that can happen at the same time. 00:03:19.571 --> 00:03:21.831 But when one gives, it's not going to be quality. 00:03:23.931 --> 00:03:30.931 So on the subject of jealousy, I want to first point back to an example that I've given in the past. 00:03:30.951 --> 00:03:32.151 I'm going to reiterate here. 00:03:34.331 --> 00:03:44.771 The term itself, the word in the English language, is one that most people don't really think about properly, which is part of the impetus for doing this episode at all. 00:03:46.191 --> 00:03:50.291 But it's not simply a lack of understanding of a definition of a word. 00:03:50.771 --> 00:03:59.871 It's a misunderstanding of the polarity or the vector, of the mechanics of what's being said when you use a term like jealousy. 00:04:00.751 --> 00:04:02.951 When I talk about vector, you know, there's a direction. 00:04:03.251 --> 00:04:05.111 There's a thing, and that's moving in a direction. 00:04:05.371 --> 00:04:08.231 Polarity, there's an orientation between two things. 00:04:08.971 --> 00:04:25.591 I've said before, one of the very most important things I've ever learned in my entire life was how to diagram sentences in sixth grade, because it visually laid out the structure of the English language mechanically, like every word in a sentence is part of a machine that's doing something. 00:04:26.071 --> 00:04:29.791 And unfortunately, that's not how people today think about language. 00:04:30.311 --> 00:04:37.291 Our language, even though a lot of our communication is now written on the Internet, it's not properly written language. 00:04:37.511 --> 00:04:41.771 It's not proofread, it's not grammatically correct, and I'm certainly guilty of that too. 00:04:41.791 --> 00:04:47.091 I will take advantage of the fact that there are things that are informal, and that's fine. 00:04:48.151 --> 00:04:54.111 But the problem is that most people fundamentally treat the English language as though it's just an oral language. 00:04:54.691 --> 00:05:01.591 And the flow of language is one thing, but when you forget about the structure, it's very easy to miss crucial details. 00:05:02.411 --> 00:05:10.851 So what we're talking about today with jealousy, I'm going to give a couple other words that are typically treated as synonyms that are absolutely not synonyms. 00:05:11.271 --> 00:05:15.791 That would be the troika of jealousy, envy and covetousness. 00:05:16.731 --> 00:05:25.391 We typically use those interchangeably, and probably most people listening wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between them, but each of them is fundamentally different. 00:05:25.971 --> 00:05:34.471 And before we give the definitions, I want to just give a very simple heuristic that you can use to remember from now on which one you should use in which sense. 00:05:35.691 --> 00:05:38.771 Jealousy is first person, it's internal. 00:05:39.071 --> 00:05:42.571 You can only be jealous of that which you already possess. 00:05:43.511 --> 00:05:46.231 Envy applies to another person. 00:05:46.531 --> 00:05:50.191 So you envy that someone else has something. 00:05:50.751 --> 00:05:52.271 You're jealous of what you have. 00:05:52.471 --> 00:05:55.071 You envy that they have something. 00:05:55.351 --> 00:05:58.551 And then when you covet what they have, you're coveting an object. 00:05:59.011 --> 00:06:00.791 So those are the three distinctions. 00:06:00.991 --> 00:06:13.511 And it might seem very fiddly, but the reason that we're laying this out up front is that when we talk today about jealousy, and not to bury the lead, but jealous is one of the names of God that's revealed in Scripture. 00:06:13.811 --> 00:06:19.431 So we're not talking about a bad thing that we're trying to make good. 00:06:20.291 --> 00:06:25.791 Jealousy properly understood, the term jealous is a neutral term, like hatred. 00:06:26.311 --> 00:06:34.291 When we did the episode on Perfect Hatred, we made the scriptural case that hatred itself is neutral, even though it sounds terrible. 00:06:34.891 --> 00:06:39.711 But to properly understand it, you understand there are cases where things are rightly hated. 00:06:40.091 --> 00:06:41.691 That's also the case with jealousy. 00:06:42.031 --> 00:06:49.711 When you properly understand jealousy, there are things of which you are rightly jealous, the things which are yours, which are supposed to be yours. 00:06:50.931 --> 00:06:55.851 And then having that jealousy, there are good and bad ways to handle it, and that's what this episode is going to be about. 00:06:56.571 --> 00:07:00.551 But that is distinct from envy and from covetousness. 00:07:01.291 --> 00:07:03.511 So I'll give an example that I've also given before. 00:07:03.971 --> 00:07:17.231 It's deliberately inflammatory, it's deliberately a bit salacious, specifically because it's going to bypass in some people the reasonable comprehension and trigger an emotional response, which is the reason I'm using this example. 00:07:18.071 --> 00:07:24.731 Because in part of what we're talking about today, just as in the Perfect Hatred episode, part of what we're talking about is a feeling. 00:07:25.151 --> 00:07:27.631 Jealousy is a feeling, it's an orientation. 00:07:27.931 --> 00:07:31.371 It's not simply a thought, something that's explained. 00:07:32.291 --> 00:07:37.391 So the salacious example is you, dear listener, have a pretty wife. 00:07:38.391 --> 00:07:40.831 You are rightly jealous of her. 00:07:41.031 --> 00:07:41.891 She is yours. 00:07:41.971 --> 00:07:43.771 And we'll go into detail about what that means. 00:07:44.211 --> 00:07:50.171 Because I think we all understand, you know, maybe it's from police procedurals or from hearing people talk. 00:07:51.151 --> 00:08:01.571 When you hear the word jealous, one of the most common things, especially watch things like Law and Order, your brain is naturally going to autocomplete it with jealous husband or jealous boyfriend. 00:08:01.811 --> 00:08:03.991 Who's the first suspect whenever there's a murder? 00:08:04.431 --> 00:08:05.851 It's the jealous boyfriend. 00:08:06.531 --> 00:08:13.251 So today there's this completely negative opinion of what the word means. 00:08:14.111 --> 00:08:20.231 And to be frank, we're not saying you should be a jealous husband, you should be a jealous boyfriend. 00:08:20.911 --> 00:08:25.091 We're saying that there are ways that this jealousy will either be good or evil. 00:08:25.451 --> 00:08:28.611 And just like with hatred, most examples in the world are evil. 00:08:28.971 --> 00:08:32.511 But the question is not whether the thing is always evil. 00:08:32.871 --> 00:08:36.051 The question is, are there examples where it is actually appropriate? 00:08:36.851 --> 00:08:40.151 And so if you have a pretty wife, she's yours. 00:08:40.371 --> 00:08:44.891 There's a possessory interest there where you are naturally jealous of your wife. 00:08:44.911 --> 00:08:45.931 This is, she's yours. 00:08:46.091 --> 00:08:47.151 You say, she's mine. 00:08:48.291 --> 00:08:54.411 If I'm being wicked, what would I be doing in interfering with your marriage? 00:08:54.791 --> 00:08:58.331 I can't be jealous because I have no possessory interest in either of you. 00:08:58.531 --> 00:09:00.371 I can't be jealous of you because you're not mine. 00:09:00.711 --> 00:09:08.591 I can't be jealous of her because there's no relationship of possession from me outside of your marriage into something that is godly. 00:09:09.711 --> 00:09:11.171 I can envy. 00:09:11.191 --> 00:09:14.371 I can envy you because she's yours. 00:09:14.811 --> 00:09:20.591 So if I am sinning and I am inserting envy into your marriage, that is how it works. 00:09:20.611 --> 00:09:21.651 I'm not jealous of you. 00:09:21.671 --> 00:09:22.531 I'm envious. 00:09:22.791 --> 00:09:27.611 And I'm envious of you because I want your wife, because I'm coveting. 00:09:28.351 --> 00:09:32.411 So two of those are basically always going to be sins. 00:09:32.711 --> 00:09:37.671 The envy and the covetousness are basically always going to be sins. 00:09:38.431 --> 00:09:43.511 In the historic Western numbering of the Ten Commandments, you have commandments nine and ten. 00:09:43.511 --> 00:09:45.971 Nine is about real property and ten is about chattels. 00:09:46.751 --> 00:09:51.591 If I covet your wife, I'm coveting something that's not mine. 00:09:51.671 --> 00:09:53.091 I'm coveting something that's yours. 00:09:53.111 --> 00:09:54.671 I'm saying I want the thing that's yours. 00:09:55.491 --> 00:09:59.111 And then separately, I would envy you because you have it. 00:09:59.671 --> 00:10:08.671 And so I want to just lay out this distinction, because as we talk today about jealousy, we're not talking about envy and we're not talking about covetousness at all. 00:10:09.351 --> 00:10:23.891 When we use the term jealousy, it completely excludes the idea that I see that you have something and I want it, or that I want the thing that you have, which are two very closely related but completely distinct types of things, because there's a polarity. 00:10:24.171 --> 00:10:25.731 There's a degree of possession. 00:10:26.091 --> 00:10:28.791 What is the order of operations there? 00:10:29.551 --> 00:10:32.071 One more superficial example before we move on. 00:10:32.971 --> 00:10:34.011 Corey and I both have beards. 00:10:34.571 --> 00:10:38.131 Corey has a great big bushy beard, a full manly beard. 00:10:38.431 --> 00:10:41.991 Half the guys follow me on Twitter have fantastic beards. 00:10:42.751 --> 00:10:45.051 I do not have a great big manly beard. 00:10:45.351 --> 00:10:48.451 I keep it short because if I tried to grow it out, it would look like crap. 00:10:49.511 --> 00:10:50.351 I like my beard. 00:10:51.011 --> 00:10:53.631 I keep it short because it's easy to maintain. 00:10:53.651 --> 00:10:54.891 I don't want a long beard. 00:10:55.251 --> 00:10:56.231 I look better with it. 00:10:56.531 --> 00:11:01.851 It keeps me warm in the winter, which is about half the year where I live, and it's basically zero maintenance. 00:11:02.131 --> 00:11:03.951 So I'm very happy with my beard. 00:11:04.571 --> 00:11:09.911 But at the same time, I envy Corey for his ability to grow a full beard. 00:11:10.511 --> 00:11:16.891 So I don't covet his beard or any of the beards of the guys who follow me online because I wouldn't want to have their beard. 00:11:17.491 --> 00:11:19.671 So I don't covet anyone else's beard. 00:11:19.691 --> 00:11:20.311 I like mine. 00:11:20.711 --> 00:11:23.591 But I envy their ability to grow it. 00:11:24.331 --> 00:11:25.931 Yeah, I'm not confessing a senior. 00:11:25.951 --> 00:11:27.731 I don't think like it's this isn't Vanna. 00:11:27.751 --> 00:11:32.551 It's just it's an example of the structure of the words that we're talking about here. 00:11:33.171 --> 00:11:35.591 And am I jealous of my own beard? 00:11:35.611 --> 00:11:39.031 I mean, I'm not going to shave it because again, there's their upsides to the way it is. 00:11:39.771 --> 00:11:42.191 I wish I could be fuller and thicker and that would be cool. 00:11:42.211 --> 00:11:44.951 But even if that were possible, I still wouldn't do it. 00:11:45.551 --> 00:11:49.671 So everything that we're talking about here today has to do with possession. 00:11:50.191 --> 00:11:57.211 It has to do with what's mine, what's yours, what's God's, and how we treat those things in those relationships. 00:11:57.951 --> 00:12:06.091 So throughout this time here today, as you hear us talking about jealousy, please remember, we are not talking about envy. 00:12:06.391 --> 00:12:08.051 We're not talking about covetousness. 00:12:08.571 --> 00:12:14.011 That is to say, we are not talking about reaching outside of that, which is ours, to someone else's. 00:12:14.471 --> 00:12:18.171 Jealousy is completely internal, whether it's good or it's bad. 00:12:18.471 --> 00:12:22.891 You can only be jealous of that for which you have a possessory interest. 00:12:24.971 --> 00:12:38.291 To dwell on the language aspect a little more, prepositions are one of those things in really any language, at least any language of which I am aware, that can get a little fuzzy. 00:12:38.571 --> 00:12:44.351 They can be a little difficult because they don't really have an essential meaning, as it were. 00:12:45.191 --> 00:12:56.731 They are really specific to the language that uses them, and that's why different prepositions will be used across languages for the exact same thing, but a totally different preposition. 00:12:57.571 --> 00:13:03.011 The lexical scope of a preposition from one language to the next is basically not predictable. 00:13:05.551 --> 00:13:17.091 And that plays into this because obviously the word jealous, to be jealous, is always paired with one of essentially two prepositions in English. 00:13:18.031 --> 00:13:21.611 You're either jealous of or jealous for. 00:13:21.971 --> 00:13:29.091 And I want to distinguish those, even though they are used not entirely consistently for all writers in English. 00:13:29.111 --> 00:13:30.671 They use them somewhat interchangeably. 00:13:32.271 --> 00:13:35.471 But the sense we are discussing is to be jealous of. 00:13:36.071 --> 00:13:38.151 One is jealous of one's wife. 00:13:39.491 --> 00:13:49.411 And the reason this can be a little misleading to most modern English ears is that this usage, while not unique, is an outlier. 00:13:50.071 --> 00:13:57.811 Because usually when something is, you know, verb of, the referent for that is something wholly external. 00:13:59.231 --> 00:14:03.291 So if you'd said, this room smells of lavender. 00:14:03.931 --> 00:14:06.671 Well, that's wholly external to smell. 00:14:08.031 --> 00:14:09.471 The lavender part of that. 00:14:10.311 --> 00:14:12.491 That's not the case with of. 00:14:12.691 --> 00:14:20.251 With the referent for jealous of, it's really internal, because that jealousy is a wholly internal matter. 00:14:20.251 --> 00:14:30.131 Yes, the thing of which you are jealous is external, but it is different in kind from the way in which we usually use that construction in English. 00:14:31.531 --> 00:14:42.251 And so we've sort of been misled by, as Will mentioned, police procedurals and other things, where they really emphasize this negative sense of jealousy. 00:14:43.631 --> 00:15:00.151 And this is something when we were doing research for this episode, obviously I knew that in German, jealousy in the positive sense and the negative sense, you don't need the words, they're not relevant here, but in the positive sense and the negative sense, are distinguished in German. 00:15:00.731 --> 00:15:01.751 They're different terms. 00:15:02.551 --> 00:15:07.151 I could not find a single other language that does that, which I thought was odd. 00:15:07.171 --> 00:15:10.131 I figured that maybe one of the other Germanic languages would do it, but no. 00:15:11.171 --> 00:15:14.871 And I checked some Asian languages, and I checked many European languages. 00:15:14.871 --> 00:15:18.911 I could not find another language that distinguishes in that way. 00:15:19.871 --> 00:15:31.171 And so this is not a problem that is, or not even really a problem, but a potential problem, a point to which we have to pay particular attention, but it's not unique to English. 00:15:31.491 --> 00:15:32.831 And it occurs in Greek as well. 00:15:32.851 --> 00:15:42.831 So we do have this also in the underlying words, as it were, in Scripture with regard to the Greek, this positive and negative sense of jealousy. 00:15:42.911 --> 00:15:46.611 And so obviously the positive sense is to be jealous of one's wife. 00:15:46.971 --> 00:15:53.411 It is to have that proper orientation toward the possessory interest that you have in your possession. 00:15:53.851 --> 00:16:04.931 And that's true whether it's your water bottle, your phone, or your wife, your oxen, whatever you happen to have, or whatever things are listed in the Ninth and Tenth Commandment, for instance. 00:16:06.991 --> 00:16:11.291 You are to be jealous of those things because they have been given to you by God. 00:16:12.171 --> 00:16:31.251 But this negative sense that we also have that the word carries along with it in basically every language, German accepted, for some reason of which I'm not aware, probably related to Scripture, quite frankly, but this negative sense that comes along with the word jealous is a separate thing. 00:16:31.271 --> 00:16:34.731 That is when it turns into a negative emotion. 00:16:34.751 --> 00:16:39.951 That is when you're dealing with suspicion and hatred and anger. 00:16:40.131 --> 00:16:55.751 Essentially, what that negative sense is, is when due to some sort of fear of the loss of a thing of which you are rightly jealous, you experience this other negative emotion, this other negative reaction. 00:16:56.991 --> 00:16:59.971 And in English, we also call that negative reaction jealousy. 00:17:01.051 --> 00:17:05.331 And so we are speaking of in this episode, we are focusing on that positive sense. 00:17:06.071 --> 00:17:10.011 There is no other term in English for the negative sense. 00:17:10.031 --> 00:17:11.411 I was tempted to create one. 00:17:11.851 --> 00:17:15.811 I may do so at some point, but jealousy encompasses both. 00:17:16.331 --> 00:17:33.391 I would say we should focus on the positive aspect, not just in this episode, but in our usage of it in our daily lives, because the preponderant usage in the negative sense has basically led to almost the erasure of the positive sense of jealousy. 00:17:34.511 --> 00:17:42.271 And as Christians, we need that positive sense of jealousy, because as Woe said, it is one of the names of God, first and foremost. 00:17:42.771 --> 00:17:45.951 But second, it relates to many parts of Scripture. 00:17:46.031 --> 00:17:47.291 It relates to the Ten Commandments. 00:17:47.931 --> 00:17:52.731 It relates to all sorts of gifts and blessings from God. 00:17:52.751 --> 00:17:59.631 We should be jealous of these things, because they have been given to us by God or created by God. 00:18:00.691 --> 00:18:05.071 And I also mentioned that it is not necessarily just jealous of, but jealous for. 00:18:05.631 --> 00:18:07.511 I'll go over the jealous for part now. 00:18:08.551 --> 00:18:14.391 Jealous for is when you are expressing rightful jealousy on behalf of another. 00:18:15.131 --> 00:18:21.451 And the reason we have to distinguish this and pay attention to this is because that form also occurs in Scripture. 00:18:22.131 --> 00:18:26.351 There are men who are praised because they were jealous for God's honor. 00:18:27.551 --> 00:18:32.991 Now, obviously, God's honor does not belong to any man, except for Jesus Christ. 00:18:33.911 --> 00:18:37.291 But God's honor does not belong to any one of us. 00:18:37.591 --> 00:18:40.911 And so we cannot be jealous of God's honor. 00:18:41.731 --> 00:18:53.451 However, when we see others abusing God's name, blaspheming, whatever it happens to be, we can be jealous for God's honor, jealous for God's rightful praise and glory. 00:18:54.511 --> 00:18:58.491 That is jealousy rightfully expressed on behalf of another. 00:18:59.871 --> 00:19:04.431 And so, obviously, God rightfully is jealous of his honor, his glory, his name. 00:19:05.051 --> 00:19:16.931 When we do something that is in pursuit of the rightful expression of that in human relations and in human actions, we are being jealous for those things. 00:19:18.251 --> 00:19:23.231 And so it's important to bear in mind some of these moving parts of how the language works. 00:19:24.331 --> 00:19:44.171 One of the things that has become very common in modern language usage, particularly in English, for a number of reasons, not just because English speakers have become lazy, but because English is the lingua franca, a slightly ironic term at this point, but it is the universal language, as it were, of the world. 00:19:44.191 --> 00:19:47.991 And so you have a lot of different groups pulling on it in different directions. 00:19:49.131 --> 00:20:02.111 And it's very easy to let some of these structural components that are necessary for the language to remain useful at a high level, we can sort of let those slip away if we're not careful. 00:20:03.111 --> 00:20:08.751 So we have to pay attention to what it is we're saying, and why we're saying it, and what it actually means. 00:20:09.771 --> 00:20:18.411 Because if we don't do that, this bleeds over into the written language as well, because of course languages are first and foremost spoken. 00:20:19.591 --> 00:20:21.251 You learn to speak before you learn to write. 00:20:22.011 --> 00:20:23.591 You learn to speak before you learn to read. 00:20:24.771 --> 00:20:27.571 But those are two connected things. 00:20:27.591 --> 00:20:31.691 Yes, for most people, they're going to speak and write differently. 00:20:31.711 --> 00:20:38.211 You are going to sound different in your written words from your spoken words, some of us a little less so. 00:20:38.911 --> 00:20:41.231 But most people sound different. 00:20:41.291 --> 00:20:44.051 However, the one informs the other. 00:20:44.071 --> 00:20:45.131 There's a feedback loop there. 00:20:45.151 --> 00:20:55.111 If you start to get lazy about these things in the way you speak, that will bleed over not just into how you write, but into how you read. 00:20:55.951 --> 00:21:06.511 And so if you don't pay attention to these things when you are discussing them, when you are speaking about them, you will start to slip in what you do when you are reading. 00:21:07.371 --> 00:21:15.391 And so you'll read scripture, and you'll see some of these words, some of these formulations, some of these phrases, and you'll miss what they actually mean. 00:21:16.431 --> 00:21:21.011 You'll see jealous, and you'll think it's a negative thing, but then it says it's of God. 00:21:21.331 --> 00:21:22.631 Well, now you have a problem. 00:21:23.451 --> 00:21:35.771 Because if you think that jealousy is wholly negative, or solely negative, and yet it is positive of God, for whom there is no such thing as a negative attribute, well, now you have a very real problem. 00:21:37.311 --> 00:21:55.151 And so as Christians, we need to pay attention to these moving parts, and we need to be more careful about how we use these things, particularly when it is something as core as a word that is used as a name of God in Scripture, something that is explicitly said to be one of His attributes. 00:21:55.791 --> 00:21:57.371 He is a jealous God. 00:21:58.691 --> 00:22:03.671 God is not guilty of some sin, as the modern world would have us believe jealousy is. 00:22:04.671 --> 00:22:08.811 God is rightfully jealous of the things that are rightfully His. 00:22:09.151 --> 00:22:15.071 And in His case, of course, that's everything, because everything belongs to the Creator, because everything is created. 00:22:16.751 --> 00:22:30.531 I think probably the best illustration of the point you just made about the difference between jealous of and jealous for is that jealousy and zeal are effectively synonyms. 00:22:31.091 --> 00:22:32.351 It's the same root word. 00:22:33.151 --> 00:22:41.231 And although you have zeal and jeal, we don't have a word jeal or gel, but we do have zeal. 00:22:42.031 --> 00:22:46.231 And the crucial thing to understand is that they mean the same thing. 00:22:46.611 --> 00:22:53.131 There's a very subtle nuance in English between them, but it's a nuance of the same meaning. 00:22:53.871 --> 00:22:57.211 So typically we would say we are zealous for. 00:22:57.551 --> 00:23:15.931 We are zealous for the Lord, which I realized earlier today is humorously one of the things that Corey and I were denounced for by the LCMS a year ago when Harrison put out that screed that denounced us, that damned us for absolutist ideologies. 00:23:16.731 --> 00:23:26.651 That was half a step removed from damning zeal, which if it's zeal for being evil, yeah, then it's the evil part that's bad. 00:23:27.211 --> 00:23:32.131 But zeal in and of itself is a good thing, even when it's for God. 00:23:32.651 --> 00:23:35.431 And I think that we're seeing a lot of that play out today. 00:23:36.811 --> 00:23:45.591 Certainly we see it happening on the internet, but I think it's happening really in a lot of men's lives where men are finally becoming zealous for the Lord. 00:23:46.531 --> 00:23:55.771 And it's something that gets accused by many pastors as immaturity, that this is childish, that this is... 00:23:56.431 --> 00:23:58.251 It's childish zeal. 00:23:58.271 --> 00:24:00.711 It's youthful zeal in a negative sense. 00:24:01.051 --> 00:24:06.391