Transcript: Episode 0071
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WEBVTT 00:00:37.292 --> 00:00:39.472Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.772 --> 00:00:40.772 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.792 --> 00:00:41.192 Mahler. 00:00:41.792 --> 00:00:43.012 And I'm still, whoa. 00:00:44.692 --> 00:00:48.512 On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing the subject of leadership. 00:00:49.052 --> 00:00:53.032 Before we get into the meat of today's episode, just a brief bit of housekeeping. 00:00:53.512 --> 00:00:56.592 First, the challenge coins, we will let you know as soon as there's anything. 00:00:56.952 --> 00:01:00.872 Those are currently being manufactured, probably be at least a couple weeks. 00:01:01.192 --> 00:01:07.452 And then once Corey gets them, he's got the massive task of getting all those pre-orders packaged and shipped, we'll keep you posted. 00:01:07.872 --> 00:01:12.312 Second piece of information for folks, we know we have a ton of listeners on Spotify. 00:01:13.032 --> 00:01:20.312 If you're a Spotify listener, you should know 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people discover the show. 00:03:19.152 --> 00:03:21.232 So that's it for housekeeping. 00:03:21.252 --> 00:03:25.292 Just we don't want you to lose track of us if you actually care about staying on top of things. 00:03:26.292 --> 00:03:39.432 As we talk about leadership today, it's kind of a natural evolution from what we talked about last week where we were discussing the context of when things are church business and things are just the business of Christian men and of all men. 00:03:39.572 --> 00:03:42.992 Because even if a man's not a Christian, he has the same duties as a Christian man. 00:03:43.012 --> 00:03:53.192 It's just that the man who is also a Christian has the framing from God, from scripture, to understand what his duties are, what his obligations are. 00:03:53.912 --> 00:03:59.632 And one of the points we made was that we should not be looking to people like clerics as leaders. 00:03:59.912 --> 00:04:00.812 That's not their job. 00:04:01.112 --> 00:04:02.032 That's not an insult. 00:04:02.052 --> 00:04:03.952 It's just they're not supposed to be leaders. 00:04:04.392 --> 00:04:07.072 Leaders occur in other contexts. 00:04:07.552 --> 00:04:11.812 And for all of us, there's some sort of leader somewhere in the hierarchy. 00:04:12.552 --> 00:04:20.912 And so today, there are a few different things we're going to cover, but principally we want to get across the point that egalitarianism is fake and gay. 00:04:21.012 --> 00:04:22.292 It's completely stupid. 00:04:22.392 --> 00:04:23.472 It's unnatural. 00:04:23.792 --> 00:04:24.652 It's unchristian. 00:04:24.832 --> 00:04:26.272 It's just freakish and dumb. 00:04:26.772 --> 00:04:29.332 And I think instinctively everyone knows that. 00:04:29.712 --> 00:04:39.912 And yet we've all been conditioned through our entire lifetimes of egalitarian brainwashing to think, well, no, everybody's the same and we're all interchangeable and we need to hear everybody's voices. 00:04:40.652 --> 00:04:45.712 We are ironically today making a populist argument for that being complete nonsense. 00:04:46.172 --> 00:04:52.132 So we are appealing to you as a completely unknown audience to us with men of all different abilities. 00:04:52.612 --> 00:04:57.152 We're trying to convince all of you that not all of you should be making decisions. 00:04:57.732 --> 00:05:03.392 And it's inherently ironic to make that case to just a group of people, but it's what has to happen. 00:05:03.892 --> 00:05:24.012 As we are in the end stages of what seems to be Christendom going poof, civilization itself, not having a trajectory into the future without things changing, one of the things that is important for everyone to think about is how do we fix this? 00:05:24.172 --> 00:05:27.332 How do we build something that isn't going to have these problems? 00:05:27.912 --> 00:05:45.172 And so the only way for us to undo the damage that we're all currently living in is to figure out how far back we wind the clock, not in the sense of historical pinpointing, but just what were the principles that former generations that didn't have these problems, what were they doing? 00:05:45.472 --> 00:05:49.332 What did they get right that we are now getting wrong because of egalitarian priors? 00:05:49.872 --> 00:05:53.712 And how can we make sure that we can begin to right the ship? 00:05:54.392 --> 00:06:07.092 And principle among those, we won't just get out of the way upfront because everything else that we say in this episode is going to exclude them entirely is girls can have no place in leadership, period. 00:06:07.892 --> 00:06:14.112 We did the episode earlier on on the ontological and scriptural nature of what a woman is. 00:06:14.132 --> 00:06:17.012 A woman is not a head inherently. 00:06:17.092 --> 00:06:18.452 And there's a scriptural basis for that. 00:06:18.472 --> 00:06:20.012 There's a created basis for that. 00:06:20.352 --> 00:06:23.672 And it's completely obvious in all of human history that that's true. 00:06:24.232 --> 00:06:29.472 And so, the point that we made then when we are right now, that's not insulting. 00:06:29.832 --> 00:06:31.312 There are plenty of girls who listen. 00:06:31.672 --> 00:06:33.232 Plenty of them are very intelligent. 00:06:33.492 --> 00:06:38.692 I'm certain that some of our female listeners are significantly smarter than some of our male listeners. 00:06:39.232 --> 00:06:40.092 That's good. 00:06:40.152 --> 00:06:40.812 That's fine. 00:06:41.572 --> 00:06:48.152 That doesn't mean that someone who has greater aptitude, if she's a woman, she shouldn't be in certain positions. 00:06:48.672 --> 00:06:59.692 And what has happened to us in the last couple centuries is we've completely not lost the notion of there's a place for men to do things where girls simply aren't present. 00:07:00.072 --> 00:07:02.912 Because it fundamentally changes the nature of the discussion. 00:07:03.192 --> 00:07:06.172 It changes the nature of all conversation, all interaction. 00:07:06.612 --> 00:07:19.072 Whether you have a strict rigid hierarchy or you have some sort of more open consensus based system, if it's a bunch of men, the hierarchy will naturally emerge even when you're seeking consensus. 00:07:19.492 --> 00:07:22.232 That will absolutely never be the case when girls are involved. 00:07:22.272 --> 00:07:22.652 Never. 00:07:23.312 --> 00:07:28.712 A single girl being present in the room and in the conversation fundamentally changes things because that's how we're built. 00:07:29.272 --> 00:07:35.292 And so when we talk about all the rest of the stuff in this episode, it's exclusively going to be about men. 00:07:35.552 --> 00:07:45.392 Frequently, we make a point of addressing the men in the audience, frankly, because it's not our place to be telling someone else's wife or mother what to think or what to do. 00:07:45.732 --> 00:07:49.972 If we're serious about headship, we can't be running around telling your wives and girlfriends what they should think. 00:07:50.272 --> 00:07:51.452 That's screwed up. 00:07:51.592 --> 00:07:52.932 That's the problem we're trying to solve. 00:07:53.212 --> 00:07:55.592 And so we acknowledge that by principally addressing men. 00:07:55.892 --> 00:07:57.272 We know girls are listening. 00:07:57.772 --> 00:08:01.632 We want the men to be solving the problems that men can solve. 00:08:02.312 --> 00:08:08.212 And these are the table stakes for everything else in this episode, and they're the table stakes for the future of civilization. 00:08:08.512 --> 00:08:12.672 Because if we can't fix that one thing, nothing else is going to matter. 00:08:13.012 --> 00:08:13.672 It's just not. 00:08:14.392 --> 00:08:15.692 All the problems that we have. 00:08:15.712 --> 00:08:17.712 I'm not pinning this on girls to be explicit. 00:08:17.732 --> 00:08:19.492 I'm not saying, oh, girls have screwed everything up. 00:08:20.072 --> 00:08:25.492 100% of the people that voted in the United States for women's suffrage were men, because girls couldn't vote. 00:08:25.952 --> 00:08:27.712 It was men who screwed things up. 00:08:28.892 --> 00:08:33.212 Along the way, we let someone else take over our duties. 00:08:33.932 --> 00:08:40.712 And that's what leadership is about, is about recognizing that there's duty, there's hierarchy, and somebody has to be responsible. 00:08:41.552 --> 00:08:45.592 As soon as you diffuse responsibility, it's lost completely. 00:08:46.272 --> 00:08:48.952 And so we can't let that happen. 00:08:49.172 --> 00:09:06.452 The reason we're putting this at the very beginning is that in our communities, in our churches, in some of our homes, certainly in our businesses, everywhere you see that men and women are treated completely equally, have an equal voice, and everyone has to feel good about everything before you can proceed. 00:09:07.132 --> 00:09:11.212 That is the death of civilization, full stop. 00:09:11.912 --> 00:09:24.912 And if we don't fix that one particular problem, which has to begin by actually acknowledging, like it is bad, it's harmful, and the people who scream that it's not harmful also have all the other bad opinions. 00:09:25.332 --> 00:09:43.152 As we're evaluating statements and things that we make today, and we talk about how you can evaluate our statements and other men's statements, you don't always have all the information, but sometimes you can just tell, I'm not sure if this guy's right about this one thing, but I know he has a lot of terrible opinions about a lot of other things. 00:09:43.652 --> 00:09:46.772 Sometimes that's all you have to gauge whether he's right about one thing. 00:09:47.132 --> 00:09:55.232 The people who scream the most that this is a bad thing, that no one should ever say girls should be excluded, they have terrible opinions about everything else too. 00:09:56.032 --> 00:10:00.012 It's not like we're in complete agreement with that type of person. 00:10:00.432 --> 00:10:02.032 I won't call them men because they're not. 00:10:02.552 --> 00:10:03.992 We're diametrically opposed. 00:10:04.452 --> 00:10:05.652 It's really one or the other. 00:10:05.792 --> 00:10:09.172 And that's why putting it up front is crucial because that's how it breaks down. 00:10:09.532 --> 00:10:14.692 If you don't exclude women from these conversations, we're addressing women as well here. 00:10:14.852 --> 00:10:26.912 If you're a woman, you're listening, and you're a wife, mother, daughter, you need to be supportive emotionally and socially with the men in your life to not make it hard for them to do the things that they have to do. 00:10:27.432 --> 00:10:33.772 That's the soft accountability that the female involves in any interaction. 00:10:35.032 --> 00:10:41.292 Men have to have the hard responsibility, have to get these things right every time or things start to break. 00:10:42.272 --> 00:10:51.012 We also want to be clear at the outset that the point of this episode is not to talk about the great man, as it were. 00:10:51.592 --> 00:10:55.792 So you can think of the great man theory of history. 00:10:56.932 --> 00:11:02.612 That man is not the focus because that isn't really the focus of what needs to be done. 00:11:03.372 --> 00:11:05.692 That man may come along or he may not. 00:11:05.972 --> 00:11:07.952 God will provide him or he will not. 00:11:09.332 --> 00:11:21.152 The day-to-day necessity of leadership is on a smaller scale because most of our interactions on a day-to-day basis will be on a smaller scale. 00:11:21.172 --> 00:11:26.832 They will be, as well mentioned, in church or at work and, yes, also in your family. 00:11:27.812 --> 00:11:35.232 Because, of course, first and foremost, every husband and father is to be a leader in his household. 00:11:35.792 --> 00:11:37.092 He is the house father. 00:11:37.572 --> 00:11:38.532 That is his role. 00:11:38.552 --> 00:11:40.032 That is a leadership role. 00:11:40.052 --> 00:11:41.312 That is a role of headship. 00:11:42.332 --> 00:11:45.552 And so that is sort of the beginning of all of this. 00:11:45.572 --> 00:11:47.392 It all flows from that. 00:11:48.592 --> 00:11:51.272 That is one of the sources of authority. 00:11:53.112 --> 00:11:58.012 I am not going to read through the chapter, but I do recommend that you go and read Exodus 18. 00:11:58.092 --> 00:12:02.152 You can pause the podcast and do it, or you can read it after listening to the episode. 00:12:02.812 --> 00:12:04.372 That is entirely up to you, of course. 00:12:05.292 --> 00:12:12.952 But in Exodus 18, Moses' father-in-law Jethro observes what Moses is doing with the people of Israel. 00:12:14.452 --> 00:12:18.852 And he is acting at this point as essentially the sole judge and the sole leader. 00:12:19.912 --> 00:12:25.192 So the people stand around him from morning till evening, and he is the one making all of the decisions. 00:12:25.392 --> 00:12:27.112 And his father-in-law says, this isn't right. 00:12:27.912 --> 00:12:29.352 This is a terrible way to do things. 00:12:29.352 --> 00:12:30.392 Why are you doing this? 00:12:31.172 --> 00:12:42.092 And so instead, he advises, and Moses agrees because it is the correct thing to do, he appoints men to be the chiefs of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and of tens. 00:12:43.272 --> 00:12:54.252 Now, you may think that tens sounds kind of small, but this is probably referring to the heads of households or at least just to men, and so tens would actually be quite a few more than ten. 00:12:55.012 --> 00:13:00.752 You're probably approaching that number of 150 people you can actually know and with whom you can have a proper relationship. 00:13:01.672 --> 00:13:07.272 And so that is what he does, because that's the sort of hierarchy that you see. 00:13:07.292 --> 00:13:13.992 There are leaders at different levels in every organization, in every endeavor in life. 00:13:15.872 --> 00:13:21.292 And again, first and foremost, it is the father of the household, the husband and father. 00:13:21.632 --> 00:13:22.932 He is the leader in his house. 00:13:22.952 --> 00:13:41.192 And then you will have, going from that foundational level upward, various other leaders, until you get to whatever man is the role of Moses in this particular organization, whether it happens to be the state, or a church, or a corporation, whatever it happens to be. 00:13:41.212 --> 00:13:44.692 There will be that man sitting at the top, but then there are levels below him. 00:13:46.432 --> 00:13:51.772 Those levels below him are absolutely essential to assure that things continue to run. 00:13:53.952 --> 00:13:56.852 And that's what we've lost in our society. 00:13:56.872 --> 00:13:59.672 We've lost any sort of hierarchy whatsoever. 00:13:59.992 --> 00:14:06.332 There's been this great leveling due to egalitarianism and other false priors that we inherited from the Enlightenment. 00:14:08.932 --> 00:14:14.172 And so we have this idea that everyone is equal, and that there are no leaders. 00:14:14.232 --> 00:14:20.652 And yet at the same time, we still have leaders, because of course democracy props people up and pretends they're leaders. 00:14:22.232 --> 00:14:32.252 But we don't really have true leaders anymore, because the men who would be leaders, who should be leaders, have either stepped back or been hounded into silence in some cases. 00:14:32.272 --> 00:14:39.172 Now they probably shouldn't allow themselves to be hounded into silence, but it is one of the realities of our current system. 00:14:40.412 --> 00:14:44.072 And so that leads into another aspect of this. 00:14:44.672 --> 00:14:53.992 If you are not a man who is going to be a leader, who is going to serve in that role of leadership, one of your duties is to support the man who does. 00:14:55.212 --> 00:15:15.232 For instance, as a concrete example related to the church, if a pastor comes into a congregation that has a number of problems, and he tries to address those, he's a faithful pastor, he's a good pastor, he tries to fix the problems, if he is on his own and the men of the congregation do not support him, he will not get anywhere. 00:15:16.432 --> 00:15:18.272 It will be a miserable experience for him. 00:15:18.892 --> 00:15:22.452 He will probably not achieve the goals, and he'll probably leave or be driven out. 00:15:23.772 --> 00:15:34.472 You need to have, as a leader, you need to have other men supporting you, because otherwise, are you even really a leader at that point, if you have no one following you, if you have no one supporting you. 00:15:35.192 --> 00:15:43.032 Now, if that pastor comes in, and even just two or three men in the congregation stand up and staunchly support him, something can actually be achieved. 00:15:43.752 --> 00:15:51.472 That's part of how we start to turn around our congregations and our other parts of our society that have gone astray. 00:15:52.172 --> 00:16:04.072 If you have a man who has the qualities necessary for a leader in that field, it is important that other men support him, so that he can actually get done what needs to be done. 00:16:05.432 --> 00:16:15.852 One of the fundamental problems that we have, and this is particularly an issue on the political right in the US, is we have a lack of leadership at almost every level. 00:16:16.592 --> 00:16:28.392 And when a man stands up who actually has the capacity to be a leader, we have all sorts of other men who attack him or fight about trivial things. 00:16:29.092 --> 00:16:30.412 Instead of falling in line. 00:16:31.192 --> 00:16:34.592 And so nothing gets done, because that man has no support. 00:16:35.432 --> 00:16:40.912 And this happens almost every time we see someone stand up and try to actually fix something. 00:16:42.812 --> 00:16:46.992 This is not how we get things done that need to be done. 00:16:47.452 --> 00:16:48.992 This is not how we move forward. 00:16:50.232 --> 00:16:55.792 If you are a leader, if you have the qualities necessary to be a leader, you have a duty to pursue that. 00:16:56.672 --> 00:17:01.252 If you do not have those qualities, then you have a duty to support the man who does. 00:17:02.932 --> 00:17:05.512 Because that is how men are supposed to interact with each other. 00:17:05.532 --> 00:17:12.512 And as Woe said, much of this is going to shake out naturally, just in the way that men interact. 00:17:12.892 --> 00:17:14.632 And every man in the audience knows this. 00:17:15.452 --> 00:17:20.892 If you're out with other men, there's going to naturally be someone who takes on the role. 00:17:20.892 --> 00:17:26.652 Even if it's not explicit or it's not a full leadership role, there will be a man who takes on the role of leader. 00:17:27.072 --> 00:17:29.052 And it doesn't even matter what sort of group it is. 00:17:29.072 --> 00:17:31.972 It could be six men out drinking beers. 00:17:31.992 --> 00:17:35.032 There's someone in that group who is the leader of that group. 00:17:36.212 --> 00:17:38.352 That is just how men interact. 00:17:38.372 --> 00:17:41.732 That is how God designed the system, because there are hierarchies. 00:17:42.412 --> 00:17:45.312 Someone will naturally be the leader in any given group. 00:17:46.032 --> 00:17:53.232 And when it's men only in a particular setting, those things will form organically. 00:17:54.792 --> 00:17:59.992 As Wo mentioned, if women are present, that doesn't happen, because it fundamentally changes the dynamics. 00:18:00.692 --> 00:18:09.312 And so when we're talking about these things, to reiterate and to echo what Wo said, we are talking about men and men only spaces, as it were. 00:18:10.472 --> 00:18:12.812 Because this is not a place for women. 00:18:13.852 --> 00:18:16.112 For instance, women should not be involved in politics. 00:18:17.272 --> 00:18:21.092 Most men shouldn't either, but women should certainly not be involved in politics. 00:18:21.572 --> 00:18:25.612 That is a space for men, because it is a duty of men. 00:18:26.732 --> 00:18:32.052 Because everything involved in politics is within the realm of the things assigned to men by God. 00:18:33.112 --> 00:18:34.272 Not least of all, war. 00:18:34.452 --> 00:18:38.992 Because of course war is going to be a political decision, a political discussion. 00:18:39.672 --> 00:18:41.752 And men are the ones who will have to go and fight that war. 00:18:43.112 --> 00:18:46.532 And so that should be a discussion in which women are not present. 00:18:47.572 --> 00:18:50.092 That is a discussion for men and only men. 00:18:50.532 --> 00:18:52.232 And there are many other places with that. 00:18:52.652 --> 00:18:53.812 For instance, in the church. 00:18:54.612 --> 00:18:58.112 Any role of leadership in the church must be occupied by a man. 00:18:58.872 --> 00:19:01.132 Any decision made in the church. 00:19:01.672 --> 00:19:04.592 And I'm not talking about minor decisions. 00:19:04.612 --> 00:19:09.792 If you're talking about planning a potluck, by all means women are permitted to be involved in that. 00:19:10.072 --> 00:19:12.852 I'm talking about decisions with regard to the church proper. 00:19:13.852 --> 00:19:20.172 So the organization of the church, electing officials for the church, appointing men to do things in the church, etc. 00:19:20.472 --> 00:19:24.812 All of those things must be done by men without women present. 00:19:26.092 --> 00:19:31.052 The nature of group dynamics is really one of the most important parts of this conversation. 00:19:31.572 --> 00:19:36.812 As Corey was saying, there's always what the term of art is the alpha male of the group. 00:19:36.872 --> 00:19:38.292 You may have heard the term AMOG. 00:19:38.992 --> 00:19:45.772 And a lot of times it's, you know, when people say alpha, you're thinking something over the top, something comical. 00:19:46.112 --> 00:19:48.012 It's really just what Corey described. 00:19:48.292 --> 00:19:51.412 There's always someone who is the dominant man. 00:19:51.912 --> 00:19:56.892 And again, it may not be over dominance, but you know, it's usually the guy who's one of the tallest. 00:19:57.352 --> 00:20:06.652 All of the things being equal, the man who is taller, who is handsomer, who has more charisma and a greater presence, is going to be the one who's dominant. 00:20:06.912 --> 00:20:07.932 That's how it works. 00:20:08.552 --> 00:20:12.812 In the difference between men and women, fundamentally, is that men are okay with that. 00:20:13.632 --> 00:20:15.312 I've said all along, I'm 5'9. 00:20:15.612 --> 00:20:19.252 I don't get put in charge of groups because I'm not going to be the tallest guy. 00:20:19.852 --> 00:20:39.032 And one of the things that weak men, fragile men, will seethe about is that when there's someone who's stronger, better looking, whatever, someone who is in some way superior to them, they will burn inside with envy and disgust because they want the status that the other guy has just naturally. 00:20:39.872 --> 00:20:41.252 That's not Christian. 00:20:41.612 --> 00:20:42.792 It's not even human. 00:20:43.372 --> 00:20:50.972 If you're the short guy in the group and the tall guy in the group is in charge and you want to compete, compete on some other grounds. 00:20:51.612 --> 00:20:53.832 Be stronger, be funnier, whatever. 00:20:53.972 --> 00:20:57.472 Like, it's not always the biggest, the most handsome guy who's in charge. 00:20:57.712 --> 00:20:59.872 That's just naturally what usually happens. 00:21:00.532 --> 00:21:43.012 And I think one of the things that, because we've lost to egalitarianism, the sense that these abilities are developed culturally over time is that that sort of process that happens from the playground, from the time we're all little kids, little boys just running around chasing each other, chasing girls on the playground, as these dynamics form naturally in every group of boys and men, what will naturally occur is that boys who become men, who tend to be the leaders just naturally, because they're falling into those positions, maybe without earning it, like it's just the one kid's two inches taller than everybody else, they look up to him literally and figuratively. 00:21:44.392 --> 00:21:59.412 Rather than seething at the fact that someone has something that you don't, the appropriate correct strategic response for anyone in that position is to realize that the guy who's always getting put in charge has more experience being in charge. 00:21:59.972 --> 00:22:14.152 So the young man who is the Amog and his little group of friends, who becomes an adult, who really has that presence, he's doing well, he's successful by all the secular means that we would consider. 00:22:15.192 --> 00:22:23.472 What happens with that sort of man, though some would seethe and think, oh, I don't like him because he's got the stuff that I don't have and he doesn't deserve any of it. 00:22:24.052 --> 00:22:33.112 That guy, because of the fact that he's always been in charge, he's always the one that people are looking up to, he naturally develops leadership abilities just by the fact that people look to him. 00:22:33.652 --> 00:22:47.072 And I think this is something that's completely missing from how we think about leadership and responsibilities and roles and anything else is that sometimes it doesn't even matter if you pick the guy at random, which is effectively what that is. 00:22:47.112 --> 00:22:52.932 If one guy is short and the other guy is tall, and the tall guy is always in charge, that's functionally random. 00:22:53.092 --> 00:22:56.112 Like superficially, it's not, but statistically, it kind of is. 00:22:56.132 --> 00:22:57.112 It could have been one or the other. 00:22:57.912 --> 00:23:06.452 The bottom line is that the guy who's always going to be looked to as the leader is going to develop the skills that someone who isn't looked to as a leader just won't. 00:23:06.952 --> 00:23:18.012 And so as a result, when you get into adulthood, when you're that guy at 15 and you're still that guy at 25 or 35, suddenly you have decades of experience of being the man that other men look to. 00:23:18.512 --> 00:23:21.852 And that naturally develops leadership experience. 00:23:22.092 --> 00:23:22.532 It counts. 00:23:23.432 --> 00:23:35.832 Even when it starts as something completely disorganized and superficial as a young man, simply always being the man that other men look to is going to force you, if you're a good man, to try to figure it out. 00:23:36.252 --> 00:23:42.252 Like if other men are looking to you to have the answer or whatever, it could be big or small. 00:23:42.712 --> 00:23:48.472 If other men see you as the leader and you're a good, responsible man, you're going to try to live up to those expectations. 00:23:49.572 --> 00:23:57.732 And so what egalitarianism is doing to us today is the spiteful, bitter, envious view of those men. 00:23:57.752 --> 00:24:09.632