“On Human Race: Behavior and Society”
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Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast, I am Corey J. Moller, and I'm Woe.
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Today's episode is our second part of our discussion on the subject of race as a biological
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thing that has real-world consequences.
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Before we get into it, I'd like to know that this is one of the episodes that if you
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do listen with children, you probably don't want to listen to this one with them.
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We're going to get into some details in some specifics of crimes that are sensitive.
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It's stuff that most people don't want to hear.
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I guess that's kind of a trigger warning to everyone.
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We're not going to be too graphic, but as we talk about crime and as we talk about real
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consequences of things, it's important at some point that we as Christians and as
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honest people stop sugarcoding some of these issues so that we can speak frankly.
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Today's episode will have a little bit more of that contact than usual.
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In the previous episode, we established the biological reality of race.
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We demonstrated it.
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I think sufficiently that as we looked at the feedback, it was overwhelmingly positive
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from pretty much everyone who listened, either agreed and said, wow, I had not heard
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those things before, or they said, well, yeah, okay, I knew that, but I don't see why
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it matters.
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The most negative feedback that we found was from people saying, I don't understand
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any of that at all.
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It didn't make any sense.
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I'm confused.
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That seemed stupid, which is very heartwarming to me because that is not a moral condemnation,
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which for all three of those groups, I think that if you listened to episode one on race
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and you did not find yourself filled with moral indignation, I'm going to tell you right
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now.
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That means that you are a political pariah today.
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You are a right-wing extremist because only the very most extremist racist people on
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the planet believe the race is biological and that it's not a sociological construct.
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We weren't trying to trick anyone.
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We were just telling the truth, but the fact that everyone basically agreed with us makes
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you all extremist too.
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I say that not tongue-in-cheap, but to point out the fact that when people are called extremist,
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it's a conversation short-circuiting act of malice to call someone racist or all these
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other things.
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It's done to prevent any of these conversations from being taking place.
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This episode and the subsequent episodes are really the conversations that no one in
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the world wants to have because they have implications for how we work in the church,
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how we work in our communities, and how we govern our nations.
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That is why we're discussing this to begin with because it's Christian men.
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We believe that all three of those are vital for any man.
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To begin with, we're going to talk about some statistics.
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We're not going to get two under the weeds because, again, you know, numbers in a podcast
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is a recipe for madness.
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No one wants to hear a bunch of numbers.
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We're going to have a lot of charts and graphs that will be included in the show notes
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for this episode, and once again, we would encourage you to look at those.
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We're going to give kind of a brief overview of just a few of them, to hopefully give you
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a sense of the scope because when we talk about biological race having real-world ramifications
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in human behavior, we're not talking about a 5% or a 10% difference.
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You could chalk that up to anything.
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We're talking about differences of 500 and 1,000 in 2,000%.
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Those are far too great to be ignored, and so in today's episode we're going to discuss
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the specifics that are downstream from race.
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Now just a bridge last week episode we talked about race being biological because it is,
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it's not something that man invented, it's something that God created.
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To begin with showing you how that is connected to human behavior, in contradiction to the
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claims that many make that there's a tabula rasa man, that when you were born, you are
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either morally neutral or you are an empty vessel or maybe you have original sin, but
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everyone has an equal degree of original sin and therefore an equal propensity for sin.
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Those are theological questions, but science has something to say about it, not that science
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has anything to say about morality, but that when you look at the facts in the universe
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in creation and they don't match with a moral theory that isn't actually explicit in Scripture
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yet somewhat inferred, it's necessary to take another look at how you're reading Scripture
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because if creation is doing one thing and your reading of Scripture is doing something
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different, maybe you need to re-synthesize those two things.
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So the first brief study I'm going to talk about here to give you a sense of where we're
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bridging this is a twin study. I know twin studies are very valuable when you're looking at human
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behavior because they allow you to isolate nature from nurture. I think we've all heard those
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terms before and some people want to say it's all one thing and it's all another, that it's
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completely deterministic. On the nurture side, they want you to think that if a Midwestern
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European couple adopts an African child from 6,000 miles away and raises that child speaking
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English attending church, that that child will behave identically to any of their own children
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would have behaved. And what twin studies show if they show anything and they always do is that
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you can account for all of these other variables to the point that the only possible
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variable remaining is genetic. And so again, race is genetic. When we talk about a race, we're talking
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about a gene pool that is held in common with a people group. So your family, if you're a father
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with a wife and you have three kids, that's a gene pool of five people. All the genes your kids
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have came from you and your wife. When you go up a level to your parents and your grandparents
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and grandparents, eventually it moves from just family into maybe ethnicity and then into
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something that we would typically describe as race. You know, or maybe race is English or
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European, if you don't want to go even further up. But as you come back down, those concentric
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circles towards the center, the genes that are present will manifest in certain ways. And so
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what they found in twin studies with young twins, one of the studies I found they had 85 sets
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of young twins and they found that the children, if they were identical twins, if one of those
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twins committed a crime as a juvenile, there was a 91% chance that the other twin would commit a
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crime as well. Now, that's important because you're talking about the same family, you're talking
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about brothers or sisters, but it would be two of each because they're identical. So they have
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100% of their genes in common and you find a 91% overlap in criminality if criminality occurs.
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Now, that doesn't tell anything by itself because well, maybe that's just the family that they were
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in. The reason the twin studies are valuable is that they're also fraternal twins and when they
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looked at a set of identical twins and compared them to fraternal twins, they found that the
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correlation of juvenile delinquency of criminality is a child. So, you know, we're talking about
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crimes being committed. We call juvenile delinquency lately, but we're talking about criminals.
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They're just young criminals. If they're identical, there was a 91% correlation in one child
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committing a crime and his brother or sister committing similar crimes. For fraternal twins,
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it goes down to 73%. Now, that difference between 91 and 73 is basically your indication of how much
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genes will have in the acts of criminality and the remaining 73%. Some of that will also potentially
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implicate criminal behavior being genetic and not merely social, but you can't refer from a
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twin study. I want to repeat that 91% if it's twins, they were identical, 73% if you're talking
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about fraternal. So about a 20% reduction, 18% reduction in the frequency. The reason that's
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important is that it proves conclusively that there is a small but significant factor of genes
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causing crime, causing an individual to commit a crime. This is tough for Christians because
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crime is sin generally. Not all crimes are sin. We've talked about that in the past, but we're talking
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about, you know, vandalism, violence. We're talking about things that no one is going to argue. These
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are sins. Genes are a factor in someone committing sins. Now, as Christians, that's a tough pill to
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swallow if you've never heard this stuff before because we're told that, well, you know, you have a
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nature to sin. And then when you have a sanctified and redeemed nature and baptism, and as you grow
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in the faith, that will be replaced, not completely, but to a large degree by your desire to obey God.
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And then there's the struggle between your desire to sin and your desire to obey God.
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Not paying any attention to religion, what you find is that the genes themselves are causing
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or they're responsible for some of the sin. And I think that's an important place to start
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because it shows that everything that we said last week about race, being biological,
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this stuff is downstream. There are aspects of human behavior that are downstream from your
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genes and therefore must necessarily be downstream from your race. When it comes to twin studies,
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another interesting thing is that these effects hold even if the twins are adopted,
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which is to say you can see the effect of genetics, even when you have a totally different set of
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circumstances with regard to environment. So you can disentangle the issue of nurture versus nature,
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you can demonstrate conclusively that it is a matter of nature because twins raised in different
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families because they were adopted at birth still end up displaying these sorts of similarities.
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And for genetics, we now have conclusive proof that there are a number of genes that correlate
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very strongly with criminal behavior, certain types of criminal behavior. There are a few different
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ones they regulate various things. Part of it would be regulation of certain areas in the frontal
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lobe, the frontal lobe being the largest of the four major lobes in the brain of a mammal,
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that would be frontal parietal temporal occipital. The frontal lobe is where your higher functions are.
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That's what's going to control your self-control, your willpower, various things like that.
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Some of these genes that are predictors of criminality are expressed in the frontal lobe.
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And the reason that is important should be clear. It is important because the frontal lobe directly
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correlates with your higher functions, with your control of self, with your willpower,
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with how you actually interact with the world and respond to the world. And so if you have genes
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that are influencing how this structure develops, how things are expressed in that structure,
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it is a very real difference from one person to the next if you have differences in that part
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of the brain and that part of the structure of the brain.
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And one example would be one of the genes that deals with M-A-O-I, which influences dopamine
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and serotonin, neurotransmitters that have to do with risk and reward and incentive for behavior
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without getting too deep into the neuroscience here. That's not our point here.
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The point is that there are genes we have conclusively provenness. This is a fact we know this.
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There are genes that code for certain differences in human beings that lead to different outcomes,
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that lead to different behaviors, and these correlate with race.
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When it comes to the African populations, you are going to have expressions of these genes
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that lead to lower levels of self-control and higher levels of violence.
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And that bears out in crime data. It is not because the police are biased.
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In fact, if you look at the statistics today, the police are more likely to shoot you if you are white.
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But that aside, it is not a difference in policing. It is not bias against individuals.
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It is that those who have certain genetic predispositions are going to be more likely to commit
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certain kinds of crime and therefore have encounters with the police and respond to the police
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in a certain way. Because of course, if you have the genes that code for less self-control,
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are you more likely to remain calm when confronted by an officer who is telling you to put your
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hands up? No, of course not. And if you don't remain calm, are you more likely to get shot?
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Yes, of course you are. Does that mean that police don't make mistakes? Of course not, we aren't
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saying that. But if you have a population that is more prone to certain kinds of crime,
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that lead to certain kinds of confrontations with law enforcement, you are going to see an increase
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in certain kinds of outcomes. And the reason that we are specifically talking about this is, again,
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these are moral issues. We're talking about sin. And as Christians, when you talk about sin,
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there are certain things that are in play that are important for reconciling us to God. And as,
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you know, especially as Lutherans, we focus on that reconciliation on repentance, on turning away
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from acting in evil ways. And when we see evil in the world, our desire is naturally and correctly
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to want those who are sinning to repent, to turn away from their evil ways. These discussions
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become completely derailed in the 21st century in particular, specifically because if you exclude
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the possibility that race can have anything to do with any of these questions, then obviously
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you're left with, well, the police run fair or society is structurally unequal. You know,
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you've heard all these things before and it turns out unsurprisingly or maybe surprisingly to some
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of you, they're all Marxist talking points. The denial of race is a Marxist talking point. The
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accusation that the police are racist is a Marxist talking point. The idea that race that society
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itself is unequally structured in ways that disadvantage minorities is a Marxist talking point.
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All those words I just used, they're used by Marxists. But the linchpin is your willingness to deny
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the race can possibly even be a variable. Now, Kory and I are not claiming that race is the only
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variable. And I forgot to mention my intro. There's something that I want to make really clear as you're
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listening to this, regardless of what you think about what you're saying. There's a fallacy that's
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kind of an informal fallacy, but it's very popularly said, particularly online lately, that's Naxalt,
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N-A-X-A-L-T. And that's an acronym that stands for not all X are like that. So in other words,
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if we say to you that an African in America is more likely to commit a murder than a European in
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America, the instinctive response from someone who has been shaped by this world is to shout Naxalt
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to say not all X are like that, not all Africans are like that. I know a black guy. He's never killed
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anyone. It's a fallacy because the fact that you know a guy doesn't disprove the trend. The fact
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that the numbers bear out the trend proves that something is going on. And it is entirely it's an
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entirely fair question to ask, are the police being unfair to one group? That's a fair question.
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We're not saying that's not a fair question. We're saying that the conclusions that are reached
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in many cases are false. It's Corey said, I'm a white man. I'm far more likely to be killed by
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police than a black man who behaves in the same way as me. Now I behave in a very law-biting,
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boring way. So I'm unlikely to be confronted by a cop, but in the event of any police confrontation,
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I'm more likely to be killed because there's not a social stigma to a cop shooting a white guy.
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There's no one who's going to riot on my behalf. If I end up dead, whether the cop was right or not,
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no one's going to care except my family and a few friends. Everyone else seemed like, well,
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you know, whatever. He got shot. He probably deserved it. The opposite is true whenever it's a
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non-white who is involved in a physical confrontation with the police with any authorities.
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It always is automatically assumed that they were singled out for some completely unfair reason.
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Now, as I just said, it's not an unfair question, but it is an unfair accusation because it's
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usually not the case, even in places where you find that there is disproportionate use of violence
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against African Americans versus white Americans. You still have to ask yourself,
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what was the individual doing in all of those cases? If a cop tells me to put my hands on my head
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and get down my knees, I'm just going to do it because I don't want to get beat and I don't want
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to get shot. As we all see over and over again in police videos, that is often not the reaction
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from African Americans, increasingly as this sort of rhetoric has taken hold in the world
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and they're being told, the cops are out to get you. You're a victim. We'll in a cop
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pulls someone over who's African American. He may already be primed by that rhetoric to think
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I'm being victimized. I'm the victim of a crime right here and it's a cop who's committing the
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crime. So there's a natural instinct even on top of the genetic factors to think maybe I should
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fight back. Maybe I'm fighting for justice if I wrestle this cop. Who's more likely to get shot
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at that point, me who gets out of my hands and knees or get out my knees with my hands on my head
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or the guy who fights the cop and reaches for his gun. Any honest person will tell you the guy
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who fights the cop is more likely to get hurt. Now, if it is Africans who are more likely to fight
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the cop, then yes, it is Africans who are more likely to get hurt by cops. It does not follow
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that the cops are more likely to hurt Africans. What follows potentially, and I think the
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data bears us out is that cops are more likely to hurt Africans who try to kill them in the pursuit
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of ill-awful arrest. You can't tease any single factor out of any of this. And all we're trying to do
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with this discussion is to make the biology of race and the factors that are a fundamental element
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of the human experience that come from our race. There are a factor in these societal concerns
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because when George Floyd passed fake $20 bill while he was high on a level of fatten all that
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was going to kill him, whether or not the cops showed up, someone called the cops because he
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was committing a felony. He was arrested. He refused to be put in the car. Despite them having
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pulled him out of a car, he said, I'm claustrophobic. I can't be put in a vehicle. I can't breathe.
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Now, the video that most people see begins at that point with the guy in handcuffs saying,
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I can't breathe, I can't breathe. If you pay attention, he was saying he couldn't breathe
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when he was being put in the back of the vehicle while he was still upright. But the video usually
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doesn't start there because it doesn't tell the story that we were all told to believe,
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which was that the cops murdered a man who was peacefully being arrested.
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If you bring givens to that scene that deny the possibility that maybe a population group is
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more likely to behave in a certain way, of course you're going to think, well, the cops wouldn't
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have done that to me and they did it to him so the cops were bad. Well, what we're telling you
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is that the cops probably wouldn't do that to you because you wouldn't fight them. And the fact
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that whites are still more likely to be injured or killed by cops and arrests is not about the
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fighting. It's about again, the fact that a cop is going to go too much further lengths typically
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to not use a gun when there's an African-American involved because they don't want to be,
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they don't have their house burned down. They don't want to go to prison for the rest of their
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life like Derek Chauvin is facing for a lawful arrest. It's perfectly sensible that they would take
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more care and be less likely to escalate violence even when the violence is justified by the force
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use of force guidelines that their own police departments haven't played because if you do
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it to a white guy, you're not going to get in as much trouble. That's a factor. And as a factor,
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it gets ignored when these conversations are being had. But when it comes from the church and when
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it comes from places like the new large catechism with annotations, they say things like the cops are
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being mean to minorities or being mean to African-Americans at a higher degree of frequency
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than to whites. That's not fair. They're being racist. If race is a factor, then there's other
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things going on. And as an honest person, you must look at those other factors before making any
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decision, you may look at all of the data honestly and still conclude, yeah, the cops are racist.
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And there are cases where the cops do bad things. Cops are human beings and some of them are dirty.
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That doesn't mean that all police are automatically bad. Just doesn't mean all police are
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automatically good or that all suspects are automatically guilty and deserve to be killed.
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The other side doesn't hold either. All suspects are not automatically innocent and they're not
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automatically not fighting back and deserving a level of force in some case might get someone
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killed. When you look at all the facts, you must conclude that you haven't done your due
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jail diligence to have an opinion until you've looked at races a factor specifically because race
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has behavioral manifestations that as a Christian, you say, well, that's sin. And if you're a
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someone who's just a statistician, you're going to say, oh, well, those are crime statistics.
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When you're dealing with the reality, you have to look at all the variables and races,
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always a variable. And in these cases, it's frequently the most important variable.
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So let's look at crime for one particular city, just as an example.
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These data are from 2010. You will find if you start looking for this that is increasingly
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difficult to find data from the last handful of years because these reports produced by the
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government, incidentally, are very embarrassing to the government because they do not match the
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narrative. Now, there are actually problems with these data, but unfortunately for those who would
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try to say that is systemic racism or something to that effect, the data are actually biased
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against whites and in favor of others because for instance, the FBI has long and some of the
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reports held Hispanic to be a victim category, but not a perpetrator category. And so they're
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lumped in with whites, which obviously raises the white crime rate as you will see very shortly
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here when I read this table of data. But anyway, these are data from Chicago in 2010.
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I'm going to give you the multiple of the white crime rate with regard to the Hispanic and
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Black populations. So to say that another way to make sure that it's entirely clear,
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if per a given number of the population, a thousand, a million, whatever,
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whites commit one crime of this variety, I am going to give you the multiple for the Hispanic
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population and the Black population. We'll start with narcotics, arrests for narcotics,
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Hispanic 2.5, that's 2.5 times as likely as whites to be arrested for narcotics, blacks 11.5.
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Auto theft, Hispanics 4.5, blacks 19.9. Sexual assault, Hispanics 4.9, blacks 10.4.
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Robbery, Hispanics 3.9, blacks 27.3. Murder, Hispanics 6.7, blacks 23.8. And again,
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that is to say that it is 23.8 times as likely that the arrestee is black. It for these data,
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Chicago 2010 for murder. As can be seen, there is a very clear racial component to violent crime.
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And this plays out across every city in the US. We could show you data for any large city.
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They're all the same. And it's not just the US because of course, there are those who will try
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to say, well, the US has this history of X, Y and Z. And so of course, this happens to minorities.
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No, it is the same in London. It is the same in Paris. It is the same in pick any major city,
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pick a major city in South Africa. It plays out everywhere the same way. Race is a determining
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factor for crime rate. The data are very clear. They are irrefutable. We know this.
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And of course, there are those who will say, well, how do we know that it's race? Maybe it's
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poverty. That's the one that is often brought up or unemployment or education. These are the
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three big ones that usually come up. And we're told if they only had more opportunity, if they had
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jobs, if they had been educated, if we had welfare, wealth transfers, then we wouldn't have the
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crime rate. And it's fair to ask that. It is in fact good to ask that. You should ask that
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question, but it doesn't work. Here is the correlation. Now, if you've taken statistics, you will
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understand how this works. If you haven't taken statistics, a number that is closer to one is a
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higher correlation. A higher correlation very strongly implies there is a causal relationship.
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And yes, of course, someone is currently screaming that correlation doesn't mean causation.
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Well, it winks at it and usually it does mean it. In this case, it does because it's the sole
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explanatory factor. But for instance, we'll start with poverty. If you map poverty onto violent
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crimes per 100,000 population for a large city, the correlation is 0.36. That is a weak correlation.
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You are looking for a strong correlation, looking for something 0.7 to 0.9 range.
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So let's look at the percentage of those who did not complete high school. Increasing
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percentage didn't complete high school does it correlate with an increasing violent crime rate.
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0.37. Not much stronger than poverty. Let's look at unemployment. For unemployment, if you have
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an increasing unemployment rate, does that lead to an increase in violent crime rate? 0.35.
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Even less of a predicting factor, even less of a correlation than poverty and education level,
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or lack of education in this case. Now let's look at the percentage of the population that is
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black or Hispanic. 0.81. That is a very high correlation. That is an explanatory factor. And we see
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this again playing out in every major city across the world. This is not uniquely American. It is
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not unique to big cities here. It is not unique to a region. This is simply a trend that holds
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across the world. And so as Christians, we have to deal with this. We don't simply get to ignore
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it, shove it under the rug, hand wave it away, because that would be a betrayal of our brothers
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and sisters, to whom we owe a duty. We owe a duty of care to those who are entrusted to our care.
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And that requires us to look at the world, not through rose tinted glasses, but with open eyes,
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to see the reality of what is represented in these data and then to act appropriately
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with regard to these data to achieve proper moral ends.
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I have some similar data from the 2021 collection from the FBI, so it's nationwide. It bears
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out exactly pretty much identical to what you find wherever there are African populations.
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There are a couple other points I want to tease out from that. We all know that men are more
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violent than women. It's our nature. A man has on average 15 times more testosterone than a woman
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regardless of race. I don't know how it adjusts for race, but more testosterone typically correlates
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to higher degrees of aggression. Now that doesn't say anything about self-control. It just means
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that men are more likely to behave in a violent way than women are. And we see that in the FBI
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crime statistics for whites. In the US in 2021, a white man was five times more likely than a
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white woman to kill someone. So that's five times greater when you're looking at men versus women.
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What's interesting is when you compare white men to black women, then you find that black women
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are 1.7 times more likely than white men to commit murders. So that's tremendous. That's a huge
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increase where the population of women among Africans is more homicidally violent than white men.
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You're never going to hear anyone tell you that because of the implications. What does it
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mean as a society if there is this preponderance for violence and for brutal violence? We're not
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just talking about fist fights or arguments. We're talking about dead bodies being attributed to
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individuals. The nationwide average was, as Cory said, 18 times more likely for a black man to
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kill than a white man. And one really startling statistic that emerges is that I have this
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race, this data broken down also by age. So that 18 percent, sorry, the 18 times is specific to
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everyone between the ages of 18 and 64. So basically peak physical condition for men,
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you know, from from their adolescent years until you start to get too old to really do too much
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violence, 18 times more likely. However, again, the average for white men is about five. The average
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for black males between the age of five and 14 is also five. Five to 14-year-old African boy
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is more likely to murder you than any white man, regardless of circumstance. That's that's
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tremendous. When you consider the physical disparity in the, what would cause a five-year-old to
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14-year-old? Obviously, that probably slews more towards what we call the teenage years. It's
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probably mostly over 10. I don't have that broken down. But the fact that that degree of violence
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would be found among kids who are so small that yet they can still cause a death. Obviously,
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that's probably mostly talking about weapons. Usually it's going to be firearms. Sometimes it's
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going to be knives. That's something that has societal implications. And it goes beyond simply
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while we have a sin problem or while we have economic problems. These statistics bear out
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over and over again. And Corey said this, we didn't make it explicit. When we're talking about
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worldwide, we're talking about Africans behaving with this degree of violence wherever they live.
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It doesn't matter if they live in the US or if they live somewhere in Africa or if they've been
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imported to somewhere in Europe recently has happened many, many times. There are millions and
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millions of Africans living in Europe today who aren't living there at the turn of the century.
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That's artificial. And it's causing violent crime to go through the roof in places that never
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had any crime before. And we're talking about sin. But as Corey said, we're also talking about
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care for your neighbor and care for your own brother according to the flesh.
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An African is not my brother. He may be my brother according to Christ, but he is not my brother
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according to the flesh. That's not an insult to him. It is not demigrating him as a man or to say
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he is less than it is to say he's not physically my brother. I have a duty to my brother.
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Scripture makes that clear. And a failure for us to look to our own to make sure that they are
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cared for has moral implications too. I have a study here from the National Institutes of Health
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just to flesh out the issue of testosterone level and criminality because there is a correlation
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there. We are not going to deny that men commit more crime. And there is some correlation with
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testosterone level because of course testosterone if it's high enough is going to lead to certain
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kinds of impulsivity as any male who has gone through puberty is well aware. Between the ages
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of 12 and 15 black males actually have lower testosterone than white males. However,
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black male testosterone rapidly increases around that age and then from the ages about 20 to 39,
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blacks have a higher level of testosterone than whites. This is just comparing men because
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obviously women have testosterone as well. And there are hormonal considerations for women
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and criminality as well. But we're focusing on men right now. However, testosterone level
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for blacks drops off precipitously after that age and falls much more rapidly than for whites.
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And one of the effects that we see of this is actually not a this not a criminal matters not
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criminality. But we see health consequences of this because testosterone level correlates
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inversely in later life at any rate with prostate cancer. And so we see much higher rates
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of prostate cancer in blacks than in whites. So for instance, between 2015 and 2019,
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the incidence of prostate cancer in black men was 176 and some change per 100,000. It was only 104
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for whites. And that's purely a matter of genetics, a matter of testosterone level,
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particularly when you're over the age of 40. And so this is again, in instance of genetics
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influencing and to some degree, indeed determining behavior. Because yes, we we're not saying that
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you don't have free will. We're not saying that human beings cannot choose not to commit a crime.
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That's not what we're saying. We are saying there are certain impulses, certain incentives
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inherent to certain genetic groups. You are going to be more prone to certain behaviors
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if you have a certain genetic foundation. And of course, we all know this. And as Christians,
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we have to affirm this because for instance, if you are genetically male, you are in fact programmed
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to like women. If you are genetically female, you are programmed to like men. Worth noting actually
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just as a sort of a side that the CDC hasn't quite updated their charts yet. And prostate cancers
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list it as exclusively a male issue denying me. I know they they're someone will get someone
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listening to the podcast. Someone's going to get in trouble for that because it does say male
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on the charts, only men who can get that because of course only men have a prostate.
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To be explicit, those that programming for a man to like a woman and woman to like a man,
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that's not societally assigned. That's not culturally conformed. That's from God. God knows that
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desire. Yes, it is purely biology. There the fact that there is a corruption
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through culture of impulses and of perceived desires does not change. The God made us a certain
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way. And although that can be corrupted over time in genes and it can be corrupted societally
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and culturally, it doesn't change the fact that when we talk about how God made us,
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that is only to his glory. And wherever there is detriment is a scribe to sin and to the fall.
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But we cannot exclude those factors just because they make us uncomfortable.
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And it's worth emphasizing that here. Insofar as anything is good in human nature because of
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course human nature created by God, corrupted by the fall corrupted by original sin,
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our nature is not original sin. Our nature was not replaced by original sin. That would be a
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heresy because that would be to say that Satan created our original nature. No. Original sin corrupts
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our nature. Insofar as anything good remains in human nature that is from God. So the fact that
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men are attracted to women, that is from God, the fact that women are attracted to men,
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that is from God, the fact that certain populations have a genetic predisposition to criminality
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is not from God. That is a corruption of their nature due to original sin and due to generational
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worship of demons. There are real consequences in the real world in the flesh for those who worship
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demons. And these accrue over time we clearly see from history and from nature.
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It is not consequence-free if your ancestors for 6,000 years give or take worshiped demons.
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God blesses those who obey. He just as certainly curses those who rebel.
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And that is what we are dealing with here. We see these issues in certain populations
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because their ancestors worshiped demons. And they worshiped particularly heinous demons in
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particularly heinous ways for a very long time. Now I am not saying that Europeans did not have pagan
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ancestors because we did have a period of paganism in our own lines and our own history. It's
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difficult to pin down exactly when it started. We know very well when it ended because we have
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that history written down by the Christians who went and converted the pagans back to Christianity
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because of course they were originally Christian. When Japhith stepped off the ark,
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he stepped off the ark, a Christian. He moved to Europe, a Christian. He taught his sons,
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Christianity. They taught their sons Christianity. At some point the demons came in. It broke down.
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They started worshiping demons. They became pagans. They did not become as bad as many other pagans.
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Child sacrifice was not as common in Europe. They did not engage in cannibalism. They didn't
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share their wives. They didn't have communal wives. And you can read even pagan Roman authors
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who commended the Germans as they called them. There was the Germanic tribes at the time for
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their morality with regard to sexual ethics. And that's from a pagan source. So this is not
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something that is just made up out of the ether. We know this. We have documentation for this.
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The degree to which you fall to demon worship and the depth of the depravity and the evil in which
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your ancestors engaged can vary across populations. The Canaanites, in scripture, singled out for being
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particularly wicked. So wicked that God told the Israelites to destroy them utterly.
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The pagans in the new world when the Spanish conquistadors and others found them were so wicked,
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so depraved that it was incomprehensible to the Christian conquerors just how wicked these people
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were, what they were doing, the evil acts in which they were engaging. That was not the case
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with what was found by Christian missionaries when they moved north into European territory.
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Yes, the European pagans were worshiping demons. Yes, they had fallen away from God. No,
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they had not fallen as far. Would they have almost certainly over time, yes. But they had not yet.
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And so there are real consequences for this. And that is what we see playing out. That is what
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these data reflect. These data reflect the consequence of moving away from God.
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The comments you just made are something that was basically the second hour of our episode a
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while ago on election. If you haven't listened to that yet, or if you haven't listened to while,
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it's worth going back and relisting to it because we make the case there, which is being reiterated
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here that when we say that there are substantial biological differences that have moral consequences
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in population groups, in racial groups, it is not a judgment against those groups because we
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don't like them or because they look different. It is in fact rooted in the history of those groups.
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As Corey said, and as you can hear in the election episode, when they came off the arc,
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there was no evidence when Christians finally got to the to the New World and got into the
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center of Africa between about 15 and 16 1700 AD. There was no evidence that anything other than
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absolute demon worship had ever existed in those places. They had an extra 2,000 years nearly
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on top of the Europeans of communing with those demons and the consequences
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exist to this day. One of the maps that we will include in the show notes is a so-called
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diversity versus homicide rate map. It's two maps broken down by county of the United States.
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It shows county by county color coding demographics. So are the counties more than 85 percent white
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or do they have more than 20 percent African-American, Asian, Hispanic, or Latino or Native American
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populations? And then right beneath it is a homicide rate chart. You can look at both of those maps
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that are color coded differently and you can clearly see from the maps where the Africans
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and where the Indians live by the homicide rates. Now that's exactly what Corey was just
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intimating with those comments. The fact that the Indians for 4,000 years communed with demons
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has consequences and the Marxists want you to believe it's poverty. It's structural racism
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that they are, they were put on reservations and we were mean to them and that makes them more
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likely to kill themselves and to kill other people. That's a theory. It's a theory worth
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examining and it's a theory that's been examined and it doesn't fall, it doesn't hold water.
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It falls apart completely when you look at these other factors. The same is true with Africans.
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There's a huge belt in the South primarily where most African-Americans live to this day.
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The only exceptions, fascinatingly, where you don't see, where you see large African-American
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populations elsewhere in this country are cities. They're the once formerly great cities
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primarily of the Midwest. If you go back to the turn of the 20th century, so 1900,
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and you look at depictions, either pictures or just descriptions of life in Baltimore,
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in Chicago, in St. Louis, in Cleveland, these places had art and refinement and peace and beauty
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that rivaled any European city of the same day. Why? Because they had been created and built by
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Europeans in the fashion of their culture. That changed after the Great Migration,
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which is a complete euphemism. There was a deliberate movement of African-Americans from the South
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into these cities and it was principally pushed by industrialists, not all of them in those cities,
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but what they wanted was cheaper labor because the native populations, the white populations,
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in those cities were getting to be more expensive than the capitalist wanted to pay them. So what
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they do, they started a program of busing African-American men up because they would work for a
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whole lot less because they had been living in absolute poverty. We will talk in the IQ episode
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in a couple of weeks about why there are poverty differences among population groups. We're not
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really going to get into that today, but again, where we are told by Marxist that, oh, that's
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society being mean. That's you being racist. That's someone discriminating. When you look at the
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data, it almost always comes down to IQ. That's a subject for another day. But the fact of the
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so-called Great Migration moving these populations of African-Americans into these northern cities
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seated their destruction. When I say St. Louis or Chicago or Baltimore today, almost no one is
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going to picture the sort of idyllic places that you can see if you look at the world fair
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a century ago when it was happening in some of those places. What changed? Demographics changed.
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It wasn't politics. It was that the demographic mix shifted from being almost entirely white
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cities to being cities with very large African-American populations. That has real-world consequences.
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It's something that if we're honest with ourselves, we have to at least acknowledge that change
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something. We're not going to get into prescriptions for what we do about it today, but I think that
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if you're going to be honest with yourself, you have to confront the fact that when you look at a
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map of violence and you look at a map of race and they're the same picture, you can't, if you're
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honest with yourself, just chalk that up to, well, they must have been disadvantaged somehow.
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Where did you get that? You didn't get it from data. You got it from someone telling you that
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to make you feel better, to make you feel like all these people are exactly the same and I'm not
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going to look too closely because I might not like what I find. Let's talk about another crime.
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We did say that this might be an episode you might not want to listen to with your children,
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so let's talk about rape. Again, I'm going to give data for
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multiples of the white rate. These data are for California in 2013.
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Forcible rape, California, 2013. The white rate, of course, again, we're going with one because
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that is the standard by which we are comparing the others, the Hispanic rate, 2.25, the Black
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rate, 6.36. Now, that only tells part of the story and the reason that only tells part of the
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story is because you have to know the percentages of the population in order to know how meaningful
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those numbers are. This is a game that many will play particularly on the left when talking about
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violent crime. They'll use absolute numbers instead of per capita. And if you use absolute numbers,
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if you're talking about a population that is 90% of the total, well, obviously the absolute
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numbers are almost certainly going to be higher than those of the remaining 10%. And so you have to
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talk about per capita. You have to talk about relative percentages, relative numbers.
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In 2013, the racial makeup of California, 39% white, 38% and some change Hispanic, 5.7% Black.
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Now, back to those numbers. If 5.7% of the population is Black, and they commit 6.36 times
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as many forcible rapes as whites, the actual multiple is 110. It's a little over 110. I can't
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do that math in my head exactly. That is an immense increase. That is astronomical. How much higher of a
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rate of forcible rape, you have attributed to the Black population than the White. And it is worth
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noting that if you look at the FBI data, white on black rape does not happen. It is a zero in the
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tables. Basically, all of the interracial rape in the US is black on white. There's some Hispanic
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on white as well, but less of that. It is almost all black on white. And so when Christians pretend
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that these things don't matter, what you're saying to every woman who has been forcibly raped is
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you don't matter. I don't see race. I don't consider these things. You're telling her she doesn't
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matter. And that's why these things matter. That's why we are discussing these issues. That's why
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it is important. Because you have to recognize the reality if you are going to set appropriate
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policies to protect your people. And if you don't, you are telling them you do not care about them.
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And that is not Christian in the slightest. We now have generations of men who have been derelict
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in their duty, who have not protected women from these sexual predators. They have done nothing
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about it. They have made the situation infinitely worse. And they have shouted down anyone who dares to
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even read the table of data. And this is from the California Department of Justice. This is
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published by the government. These are probably biased against what we are saying. So the reality of
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the situation, it's probably far worse. And when we talk about this subject and we talk about it
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in the United States context, we're talking about it in terms of crime. So we have a concept of rape.
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It's obviously an evil, violent, horrific invasion of another person. It's one of the worst
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things you can possibly do to another human being. That is what we as Christians believe and understand.
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However, if you talk to someone who has spent time in Africa living among Africans as themselves
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in their honest with you, they will tell you that in Africa, they do not typically have any
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concept of rape. What I mean by that is that when a boy or a man reaches sexual maturity and he
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is filled with desire, he will see a woman or a girl. It may be a relative. He will go over,
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he will bend her over and he will have sex with her. And that's perfectly normal.
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Now to us, that's absolutely shocking. And we say, oh, well, that can be. And you might come
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up with a hundred conclusions and a hundred excuses and say, oh, well, that's just cultural.
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Well, when we see the similar behavior in other countries, which is exactly what we see,
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when these people move to Europe today, when you have someone taken from Africa today,
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and they move to Europe or some of the Middle Easterners who are very similar, move to Europe,
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the rate of rape in those places has skyrocketed. And many of them, when they're charged and they're
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interviewed, they will flat out, they'll be confused. We'll say, I didn't know it was against the
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rules because in their mind, they have a sexual urge. They see someone with whom they can satisfy
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that urge and they just do it. There's no notion of criminality baked into the system.
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Now, you can argue potentially with those who are coming from Africa, oh, that's entirely cultural.
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But the missionaries will tell you it's an incredible uphill battle to try to convince these
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people to stop raping their own family members because that's what it is. It's incest in its rape
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and they don't see anything wrong with it. And we wonder why they were still living in the
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stone age when we found them. The fact that you see similar rates of violence of a sexual
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nature in the United States by populations that in some cases left Africa three and 400 years ago,
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we're telling you that there's a genetic basis for what we describe as criminality and amorality.
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And that's an extremely hard thing for people to hear. And I'm sure that there are many who will
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flatly reject even the possibility that that could be true. There could be a genetic basis
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for something as evil as rape or murder. You're not going to find an alternative explanation
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because there's no other factor in any of this that remotely correlates to the behavior that we see.
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And as Corey was saying, when we bring these people from a foreign land into our own lands,
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you know, they're Ethiopians being shipped to Columbus, Ohio all the time. It's happening all
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over the country. And then they act like Africans in Columbus. Can we even get mad at them?
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That's it's such a disconnect between our expectations and our requirements for being a human being
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who's civilized and what they're used to and what they find to be acceptable. You can't simply
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read them the Bible in hope that you're going to fix these problems. I hate to say that because I
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know that that's it's something there's Christians we can't deal with. Well, I told them about Jesus
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and they said they believe in Jesus, but they're still more violence and there's still more of all
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these other crimes. It's not that God cannot turn a man's heart. It's that when you have someone
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who's been so horrifically broken by 4,000 years of communion with demons that is literally baked
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some of that additional evil into their genes, we today are being subjected to the consequences
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of things that happened thousands of years ago. And when a Marxist will tell you, there's no
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genetic basis for race. It doesn't even exist. There's no genetic basis for behavior. That's nonsense.
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It's all learned. It's all cultural. If you believe that, then you're left defenseless because when
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someone says, Hey, I'm going to ship a bunch of you gondons to live next door to you. If you don't
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love them, you're not a Christian, Jesus would love them. Jesus would let them live in move in
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next door. As Christians who are honest, we must deal with the facts. We must deal with scripture
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and we must also deal with the human beings in front of us. And if the human being in front of
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you is 120 times more likely to rape your sister or your wife or your mother or your children,
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you must be cognizant of that. You can't ignore it. You can't pretend it's socioeconomic factors.
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You have to deal with it. And you must deal with the fact that even though not all Africans are
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rapists, there are so many more who rape and murder that it is a societal plague in our own lands.
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And in every land where they go, one of the other homicide rate charts that we have is specifically
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about this is just homicides per 100,000. It's broken down by country. And one of the beautiful
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things about this chart is one of the only ones I've ever seen. It has the United States,
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but it separates United States Africans from white United States. So you're separating the
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European stock Americans from the African Americans. And what you find on this chart is the rate
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of white homicide is comparable to some of the most boring places in Europe. White American
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homicide rates are comparable to Belgium, while African American homicide rates are right between
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equatorial Guinea and Nigeria. And Rwanda is just a bit further to the south. And when he
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at Botswana, just a little bit better than African Americans. That's the correlation we're talking
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about. Wherever an African is on the planet, he's going to have African problems. That is not to
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say that they must be punished or they must be treated unjustly or they must be called names.
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It is to say that when you're dealing with a population of Africans, not an individual, maybe the
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guy that you know, your black friend is the best but guy in the world, we're not talking about an
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individual. We're talking about a group and that's permissible for Christians to do.
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When the Holy Spirit said that all Koreans are liars, he wasn't lying. He wasn't being racist.
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The Holy Spirit was telling the truth by generalizing about a group of people. It is wisdom to do so.
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And it is not a full to say, look, this group of people is going to behave in a certain way. Let's
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deal with them as they are rather than making excuses for it. And rather than subjecting ourselves
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to things that will harm us and harm our neighbors and our brothers. That is the moral argument for
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even talking about this. You can reach your own conclusions. You can look at this data. We're not
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trying to dictate to you policy prescriptions. We're not saying, look at all this data now we need
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to do this. We have our opinions about that and maybe we'll share them at some point. But all I'm
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imploring you to do today is to look at reality and not lie about it. Not say that, well, these
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people are just like me because of whatever. They're not just like you and that's not hateful.
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If someone is different than you, maybe it's to their advantage, maybe it's to your advantage.
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It's not even about seeking advantage. It's just about looking at what you're dealing with.
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When you're dealing with an African population anywhere on earth, you're dealing with
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astronomically higher rates of violence, both physical and sexual. You're dealing with someone
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who's going to do things at his Christians. We call sin and as a society, we call crime.
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And if we can't be honest about that, there's no possibility to even have sane
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discussions about what we do as a government, what we do as a society, what we do civilly.
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And as a church, what do you do? What do you do when you have a population that you know is more
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likely to rape and murder your neighbors? Do they need more ministry? Yes. Do they need more
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supervision? Yes. Do they need to be watched? Yes. Because for the same reason that you would watch
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a tiger versus a goat, you need to watch someone who's more likely to do harm than someone who's
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less likely to do harm. That's not hateful. How you do that can be hateful. It can be mean. It can
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be malicious. We would never advocate that because it's not what we think. But we think that
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protecting our own, our brothers according to the flesh, as Paul advocated in his own epistles.
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That is something that a Christian has a duty to do. This is an optional. What you do with the
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information should be informed by God. But it cannot be to ignore the facts and to ignore the
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implications of these things. An additional proof of this disparate behavior with regard to the races
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when it comes to sexual morals and behavior also plays out in STI data. And you can see this from
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the CDC. I have the data from 2020 pulled up here. And the rate of syphilis, gonorrhea, and
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chlamydia, the three of the big ones they monitor are astronomical in the black population compared
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to the white population multiples of the rate in the white population amongst blacks. And I'll
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add these into the show notes. But you see very real consequences in addition to the fact that you
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have these crimes being committed, you see other follow on consequences because of course
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STIs are a follow on from sexual sins. And that is spread by sexual sin. And it continues to get
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worse as long as that sexual sin is not brought under control. And so we have these things
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spreading like wildfire through our population. But if you put it on a map, you can see there is
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a racial component. It is spreading much more frequently, much more deeply, much more widespread
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in areas with African populations because they are behaving the same as they would behave in Africa
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because there's no such thing as magic soil. You do not become
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Japanese because you live in Japan for a while. There are Europeans who were born in Japan,
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who speak Japanese, who lived for decades in Japan. They're still European. Because what you
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are was created by God and God did that through genetics. And so you are the result of your
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parents coming together. They're the result of their parents coming together, so on and so forth
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back to Adam and Eve. You do not become something different simply because you moved somewhere
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else for a while. And so you are going to see these populations behaving in certain ways
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in accord with the fact that they are part of that population. Yes, you are going to have some
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cultural, some societal influence, but it is primarily nature. The best way to think about it,
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the difference between nature and nurture. And this will again come up multiple times in the IQ
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episode. Nature sets the boundaries. So if you think of it as a spectrum, nature sets the
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possibilities. Nurture determines where on that line you ultimately fall. And so in the case of
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intelligence, you could be plus or minus a standard deviation, say, your nutrition, your upbringing,
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your education, all of these things are going to determine where you fall within that range.
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It is the same for these sorts of behaviors we're discussing here for criminality for self-control
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because I have said self-control a number of times this episode because it is a very big contributor
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to this. Children who have self-control will power are more likely to succeed in the future in
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their lives. And you can test this very early on. You can set a piece of candy out and tell a child
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and they've done these studies. We have the results. They're very solid. You tell the child,
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if that candy is there, when I get back, I will give you two candies. White children and Asian
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children, much depending on which part of Asia, but much more likely to wait, to wait for that second
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piece of candy because obviously that is the rational choice if your goal is more candy, which
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it is for children. But you can do that only if you have the willpower to do so.
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Africans eat the piece of candy because it is a matter of genetics. It is a matter of whether or
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not you have the foundation for the sort of willpower necessary to think into the future.
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I would rather have the greater reward then than the lesser reward now. And that is what plays out
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in the sex crimes and various other things because if you are of the mindset, part of this is time
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preferences, what I'm talking about really, if you are of the mindset that well, I really want
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this item, this piece of candy. So I'm going to go and steal it because I want it now.
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There's no delayed gratification. There's no thinking through of well, I could work for it,
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earn it, pay for it, and have it. No, it's I want it. So I'm going to take it. And that's what happens
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with rape. I want it. So I'm going to take it. That is why you get these crimes.
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And so we have to deal with the fact that we have populations in our countries now who think
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like this, who behave like this, you have to address the issues as you find them, not as you would
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prefer they could be or were. We aren't dealing in an ideal world. That's not what happens
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in reality. In the kingdom of the left hand of Christ, we are dealing with reality.
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And we have to deal with it as we find it. Certain populations are prone to certain behaviors.
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And so it is incumbent on the state to react in a certain way. It is incumbent on Christians
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to recognize these things and to behave in a certain way. You may have to do things to protect your
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female family members more depending on where you live, depending on what they're doing in their
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daily lives. There are certain steps you will have to take because it is your duty to protect those
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entrusted to your care. It may be that you will support or oppose certain political policies
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because they have a likelihood of harming your neighbor or helping your neighbor.
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These are moral questions. These are not matters of indifference. These are real questions
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that Christians have to answer in a Christian way. And the first step in doing that is to recognize
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that they exist. Then you look at the data, then you can make a decision. One of the ironies of
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the situation is that as Marxism advances in our society and gains complete control over how
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people speak and think, you're beginning to see more innocuous versions of what we're saying,
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being set out loud in headlines that we typically will just scoff at as being insane.
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I saw recently that there was a cheating scandal. I think one of the United States military
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academies and the accusation that came as a result of the cheating scandal was that anti-cheating rules
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are racist because as they have increased the so-called diversity quotas to lower the standards of
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who may be let into our elite institutions for the military, more and more non-whites are entering
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those places where they were not academically qualified, but they are statistically qualified in
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order to meet quotas. Those population groups in turn cheat at such significantly higher rates
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that it creates huge scandals. And then the headline is saying that cheating is racist.
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And like I said, we laugh at that when we hear it and we think, well, that's just absurd.
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I think that they're telling the truth, not about the accusation of racism.
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They're telling the truth about the fact that at some point we must admit that it's unreasonable
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to expect someone who's not white to behave in ways that we consider normal. And I think that's
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the hurdle that a lot of us have to get over is what we think of as normal is rooted in our own
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experience. And I don't just mean your personal lived experience. I mean, everything that you can
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comprehend is a human being. When I gave that horrible description earlier of what happens with
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in Africa, with Africans behaving against their own family members, that's unthinkable to you.
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Anyone who's listening to my voice right now would never even occur to you to do anything like
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that. You can't comprehend it. And yet for them, it's completely normal.
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So when there's a massive cheating scandal in one of the major universities, and it turns out
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that all the cheaters are black, the Marxists will say, well, saying the cheating is wrong is racist.
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And everyone else will just make excuses for this woke stupidity. I think that we should, as
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Christians, look at the question, which we are raising. And we obviously have our answer, but
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you may not accept our answer. You should at least ask the question of yourself.
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Why is it that an African-American in one of the
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military academies would feel free to cheat and think that was okay? Why is it so widespread that
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it's the norm there? And it's not just cheating. You have things like timeliness is racist,
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to say that someone should show up on time or that certain things should happen at certain times.
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You've probably seen headlines where that is declared to be racist. And we just laugh at it.
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You're like, well, like, Cory and I start recording this at 2.30 every day unless something goes wrong,
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just sort of automatically fell into that pattern. For us, there's no concept of race being involved
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in timeliness. It's just how we are. It's precision and its predictability. And it's something
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that we appreciate. And it's something that our society has built around.
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We'll talk about this more in the IQ episode, but the notion of time doesn't really exist for
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Africans in the same way, if at all. So when you hear you see a headline that says timeliness is
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racist, they're not wrong. Again, about the accusation of committing some sin, which we'll do a
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racism episode because that's nonsense. But the idea that's something wrong with expecting a
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black person to show up on time, what they're saying the quiet part out loud there. They're saying
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that black people can't understand why showing up on time would even be a thing. The thing doesn't
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begin until they show up. So why does it matter when they show up? They were doing something else.
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And now they're doing this. And these differences, once you strip away the cultural and all the other
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baggage, the only explanations that are left are genetic and they're genetic writ large at the
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racial level, at the major category level. There are lots of different ethnicities within Africa
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that all have variations on similar themes. There are some populations that have much higher IQs
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than others, but they're all at least a standard deviation below the white IQ in the United States.
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There's a reason for that. And it's not nutrition. And it's not that they don't have good schools.
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When we talked about schooling a few times, if someone is fundamentally not capable of living up
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to your standards, at what point do you as a Christian realize that it's cruel to try to make
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someone live up to your standards? Now, when the Marxists say that, they're saying we need to
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lower standards. We're not saying that at all. We're saying that the idea of holding someone accountable
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to a standard of morality and of behavior to which they are constitutionally incapable of living
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up to it, you have to look at that seriously and you have to ask some hard questions that haven't
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been asked in a long time because if they can't do it, and it's not a question of teaching, if they
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absolutely cannot do it because of how they were born, because of the race that they were born,
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that's the proposition that we're making. And some of you're going to reject it outright and
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find it hateful. Others, when you look at the data, you're going to have a hard time disagreeing
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with us. But if we're right, if we're telling the truth about genetic variations in behavior,
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in attitudes, and frankly in morality, as a society and as a church, those differences must be a
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factor in how we deal with these people groups. We can't treat them like they're just like us.
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If they're going to behave in ways that are so alien that we can't even wrap our minds around it.
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And so what do we do? What have we done? Been doing for the past few generations? We've been
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pretending that the differences don't exist. And then as there's been more and more integration,
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and we've been told that segregation was evil and integration is good. And then we see that the
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effects of integration are greater degrees of criminality and injury and harm.
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The only moral question that can come from that is what do we do now? If you admit that race is
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biological and that there are certain behaviors and certain propensities that are biological,
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then looking at someone and being able to determine with a certain degree of probability that they're
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going, that they belong to a group that does something. You can't tell by looking at an individual
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what they're going to do, but you can tell by looking at them that they belong to a group that's
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more like to do this thing. So if that group is deadly to your own group, you need to acknowledge
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first that there are two groups, and then one is more dangerous than the other. And two, that there
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are societal and legal implications to that. And simply saying one race, the human race, and Jesus
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died for us all, doesn't fix the real danger in the real harm that's happening in the real world
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by us ignoring these differences. And we do already recognize some of this in our legal system.
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Anyone with any sort of legal training is going to immediately recognize, well, of course,
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we have different standards for different things. There are the different standards of proof,
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certain things have to be proved to a higher degree. Typically, criminal matters are a higher degree
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than civil matters. Civil matters are usually 51%. It's just more likely than not. The murder is not
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actually the highest one. Many people will answer that one wrong. They think murder will have to be
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the highest proof. It's not the intent for murder is malice of fourth thought, which there's
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no point in getting into the technicalities of that. But the highest one is specific intent,
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which is you had the intent to do the thing you did and cause the outcome you caused.
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But we also have defenses for capacity. If you were intoxicated at the time, that makes
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excuse you to some degree. If you were intoxicated unwillingly, that makes excuse you to a very
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large degree, perhaps entirely. If someone drugged you, you're typically not responsible for whatever
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you did while drugged. Insofar as the drug was responsible for your behavior, of course.
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But we also have capacity defenses. If you are mentally retarded in the technical sense of the
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term, not the derogatory, the pejorative sense, the technical sense. If you are mentally retarded,
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you are held to a different standard because you probably don't understand the duties
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that everyone else knows you have in a certain situation. And so it would not be morally appropriate
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to hold someone to this higher standard because you are saying you should have known to someone
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who entirely lacks the capacity to do that. You can't hold someone to a duty to do something
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that is impossible. That's immoral. Now, of course, I'm not making a theological point there,
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so for anyone who is thinking that God holding us to the standard of perfection is wrong. No,
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actually, it's not because Adam could have. We inherit his original sin, which is another part
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that is theologically important for this. There were those who say, how is it fair to hold someone
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responsible for effectively the sins of the parents? Well, original sin is kind of a core of our
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religion. So if you have a problem with what we're saying about the consequences for future generations
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of the behavior of past generations, then you should probably go back and review original sin
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and how that works in the Christian religion. You've missed something. But when it comes to issues
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of capacity, we know that certain groups of people have to be held to a different standard. No,
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we don't permit them to cause crimes. We don't permit them to do things that are illegal, cause harm,
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etc. But we recognize that you have to take into account the abilities they bring to the table,
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the capacity they have to understand their duties, the things they should and should not do.
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And so you do treat them differently. Part of that historically has been treating them differently
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at the outset. So preventing the problem from occurring instead of addressing it once it occurs.
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To go back to the issue of rape, what is going to be better for a woman who is raped if you had
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prevented the rape or if you punished the rapist? I don't think that's a very hard
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call to make. I think most people can probably make that one. The same for someone who is
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severely mentally disabled, what's better? Carefully monitoring that person and controlling what he
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does or letting him run free and then injuring himself or others? Well, of course you want to
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prevent him from injuring himself or others. And so there are certain things you have to do in
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society to take into account the abilities of different groups of people and of different individuals
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in society. We have not been doing that for decades now. We closed the Asala, for instance. We
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basically let the mentally unwell roam the streets now. Usually this causes minor property damage
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and significant damage to those individuals themselves. Many of them wind up dying of overdoses in
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the streets. That's a very real moral problem. That is something we are not addressing as a society.
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This is akin to that because you are dealing with something that has a biological basis in the
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individual and in groups of individuals. And you have to account for that in how you run your
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society because it is a moral question. If you ignore it, what you are doing is immoral. Ignoring
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it is the actual sin here. Next week's episode we are going to focus specifically on scripture.
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We are going to focus on the arguments that are used from scripture against many of the things
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that we have said. Again, not directly addressing the facts because facts are truth and truth is
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from God. So you can't use scripture against truth. But there are structural arguments that are
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often posed that just ignore everything we have said for the past two weeks and try to focus on
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other things. So we want to address those explicitly because we are Christians. We are Lutherans.
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It is a scripture that is more important than what your lying eyes tell you. What we are trying to
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say is that your lying eyes aren't actually lying to you in this case. You can believe God and you can
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believe statistics. And if you are looking at the right ones, you are going to reach a godly
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conclusion. So we are going to move on from the statistical stuff for the next week and we are
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going to specifically focus on what does this have to do with us in the church because really that's
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the fundamental question that I think most of us have in mind. If you assume for the sake of argument
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that we have told the truth for the past two weeks, where do we go from here? How do we make sure
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that we are dealing with people in a Christian way that also will in a Christian way, in a way
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that acknowledges scripture, in a way that acknowledges duty to brother and to neighbor and all the
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various vocational aspects that are fundamental to the Christian life. So next week's episode will
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focus on that. And in the following week, we are going to do one last statistical episode that
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is going to very specifically focus on IQ. It is one we have teased for a while. IQ is such a big part
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of this conversation that it needs to be its own episode. So we wanted to segregate that by itself
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so that it can stand alone. That's going to be in two parts, first talking about kind of the higher
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end and what we see in Western society. And then what the implications are for those who have
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such diminished capacity, as Corey just mentioned, criminally, if the law says that someone is too
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retarded to be held accountable for their behavior. And we'll get into some of the reasons why that's
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not. It may be morally questionable, but it's legally there's a case to be made there. What do we
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do with Christians with people who cannot understand cause and effect with people who cannot
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understand hypotheticals? How do you cataclyce someone who can't understand later versus now?
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These are very real and fundamental questions. And it's part why we're talking about race.
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This is not about hating people and excluding. It's about saying these people exist. God
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died for them. Jesus cried, paid for all of their sins on the cross just like he paid for ours.
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Whether or not someone has more sins than others, Jesus paid for 100% of them. We're not talking
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about who's better. We're talking about what are the needs in this life for different groups of
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people because the needs are not the same. The way you would explain the gospel to a man like
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Coria myself if we were not Christian is very different than the way you would explain to someone
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who had the mental capacity of a five year old. That should be obvious, but when we
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realize how it falls into race, it becomes a gospel issue. And that's ultimately why we're talking
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about this. We're talking about how we as Christians can behave in a Christian way with people who
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have capacities and needs and proclivities that are different from our own. We're not trying to
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be unfair to these people or mistreat them. We're saying, given the reality that we face,
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what is the most Christian path forward for all of us? And that is a conversation that will be
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rooted next week in scripture. And then we're ultimately going to end up dealing with
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how do you spread the gospel to people who have fundamentally different mental understanding
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and capability in their own? So I hope that you'll stick with us for all this because this is
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again, it's all a part of the piece. It began with Christian nationalism episode. It continued
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in the election episode and then these multiple episodes are going to hopefully wrap it all up.
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I hope that you find some value in this, even if it upsets you and even if you're not sure about
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some of the things we're saying. We're approaching this in good faith and we're doing it in complete
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honesty. And we're doing it frankly because people who talk this way will be destroyed in the world.
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If you agreed with what we said last week, be careful about who you whom you tell that to because
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you could get fired for saying the things we said last week and you could certainly get fired
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for the things we said this week. And on the IQ episode, you'll never get hired again if you
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agree with any of what we say. Now, either we're horrible racist, hateful liars or we're telling you
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something that most people are afraid of. You can figure that out for yourselves, but I appreciate
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those who are sticking with us and listening to these things. And at least asking the questions
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yourself, what do I do with this information? As I said at the, at the outside of this episode,
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some people are like, well, I don't see the point. Hopefully we're starting to make the point.
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This stuff about race and about biological differences isn't about picking on people or
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pointing at people and calling names. It's about saying, as a Christian, what do I do in these
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circumstances when someone looks similar to me, but is going to behave and have a capacity for
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very different things than I have to the point that I can't understand them. What do I do? What does
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God want me to do? What does Scripture say? And how can I proceed in good conscience in an accord
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with the vocations that God has given me where I live? Just to emphasize that, nothing that we are
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doing is done out of malice. Everything we are doing on this podcast is done in the interest of
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defending Scripture when they come up the confessions and the creation as the creator made it,
01:25:25.840 --> 01:25:32.080
which is to say we are defending the Christian faith. We are doing it with regard to certain subjects
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that have fallen out of favor. These aren't things that would have been out of place, say,
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100, 200, 300, any number of years ago, except for the last maybe 60 or 70.
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We are dealing with issues that are fundamental to reality, to the faith.
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And that's why we're addressing them because it is important for Christians to get these things
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right. Now, as was mentioned, if you bring these up in your place of work, you may be fired.
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If you bring them up in your church, you may be disciplined.
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But there will be times when you can discuss these with like-minded men,
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with those who are actually still open to the truth because they do exist. We know that from
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we can see how many listens to this podcast and we will discuss those numbers in some point in the
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future. But it is vitally important that Christians learn about the reality of the world and what
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Scripture actually says. Not what the world tells you Scripture says, not what Marxists tell you
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about the world, but the world as it is and Scripture as God intends for you to read it as God
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wrote it. That's why we're doing this. None of it is out of malice. None of it is out of ill will.
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It is only with the best of intentions because as Christians, our first duty is to God and God
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is goodness, beauty, and truth.
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00:00:00 – 00:00:16: How do I play this?
00:00:16 – 00:00:44: Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast, I am Corey J. Moller, and I'm Woe.
00:00:44 – 00:00:51: Today's episode is our second part of our discussion on the subject of race as a biological
00:00:51 – 00:00:55: thing that has real-world consequences.
00:00:55 – 00:00:59: Before we get into it, I'd like to know that this is one of the episodes that if you
00:00:59 – 00:01:03: do listen with children, you probably don't want to listen to this one with them.
00:01:03 – 00:01:10: We're going to get into some details in some specifics of crimes that are sensitive.
00:01:10 – 00:01:12: It's stuff that most people don't want to hear.
00:01:12 – 00:01:14: I guess that's kind of a trigger warning to everyone.
00:01:14 – 00:01:20: We're not going to be too graphic, but as we talk about crime and as we talk about real
00:01:20 – 00:01:25: consequences of things, it's important at some point that we as Christians and as
00:01:25 – 00:01:31: honest people stop sugarcoding some of these issues so that we can speak frankly.
00:01:31 – 00:01:36: Today's episode will have a little bit more of that contact than usual.
00:01:36 – 00:01:41: In the previous episode, we established the biological reality of race.
00:01:41 – 00:01:42: We demonstrated it.
00:01:42 – 00:01:47: I think sufficiently that as we looked at the feedback, it was overwhelmingly positive
00:01:47 – 00:01:53: from pretty much everyone who listened, either agreed and said, wow, I had not heard
00:01:53 – 00:01:58: those things before, or they said, well, yeah, okay, I knew that, but I don't see why
00:01:58 – 00:01:59: it matters.
00:01:59 – 00:02:04: The most negative feedback that we found was from people saying, I don't understand
00:02:04 – 00:02:05: any of that at all.
00:02:05 – 00:02:06: It didn't make any sense.
00:02:06 – 00:02:07: I'm confused.
00:02:07 – 00:02:14: That seemed stupid, which is very heartwarming to me because that is not a moral condemnation,
00:02:14 – 00:02:18: which for all three of those groups, I think that if you listened to episode one on race
00:02:18 – 00:02:24: and you did not find yourself filled with moral indignation, I'm going to tell you right
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00:02:25 – 00:02:29: That means that you are a political pariah today.
00:02:29 – 00:02:34: You are a right-wing extremist because only the very most extremist racist people on
00:02:34 – 00:02:41: the planet believe the race is biological and that it's not a sociological construct.
00:02:41 – 00:02:43: We weren't trying to trick anyone.
00:02:43 – 00:02:47: We were just telling the truth, but the fact that everyone basically agreed with us makes
00:02:47 – 00:02:49: you all extremist too.
00:02:49 – 00:02:56: I say that not tongue-in-cheap, but to point out the fact that when people are called extremist,
00:02:56 – 00:03:02: it's a conversation short-circuiting act of malice to call someone racist or all these
00:03:02 – 00:03:03: other things.
00:03:03 – 00:03:09: It's done to prevent any of these conversations from being taking place.
00:03:09 – 00:03:15: This episode and the subsequent episodes are really the conversations that no one in
00:03:15 – 00:03:21: the world wants to have because they have implications for how we work in the church,
00:03:21 – 00:03:24: how we work in our communities, and how we govern our nations.
00:03:24 – 00:03:27: That is why we're discussing this to begin with because it's Christian men.
00:03:27 – 00:03:34: We believe that all three of those are vital for any man.
00:03:34 – 00:03:39: To begin with, we're going to talk about some statistics.
00:03:39 – 00:03:42: We're not going to get two under the weeds because, again, you know, numbers in a podcast
00:03:42 – 00:03:44: is a recipe for madness.
00:03:44 – 00:03:46: No one wants to hear a bunch of numbers.
00:03:46 – 00:03:49: We're going to have a lot of charts and graphs that will be included in the show notes
00:03:49 – 00:03:54: for this episode, and once again, we would encourage you to look at those.
00:03:54 – 00:03:58: We're going to give kind of a brief overview of just a few of them, to hopefully give you
00:03:58 – 00:04:05: a sense of the scope because when we talk about biological race having real-world ramifications
00:04:05 – 00:04:11: in human behavior, we're not talking about a 5% or a 10% difference.
00:04:11 – 00:04:13: You could chalk that up to anything.
00:04:13 – 00:04:18: We're talking about differences of 500 and 1,000 in 2,000%.
00:04:18 – 00:04:22: Those are far too great to be ignored, and so in today's episode we're going to discuss
00:04:22 – 00:04:26: the specifics that are downstream from race.
00:04:26 – 00:04:32: Now just a bridge last week episode we talked about race being biological because it is,
00:04:32 – 00:04:36: it's not something that man invented, it's something that God created.
00:04:36 – 00:04:42: To begin with showing you how that is connected to human behavior, in contradiction to the
00:04:42 – 00:04:49: claims that many make that there's a tabula rasa man, that when you were born, you are
00:04:49 – 00:04:54: either morally neutral or you are an empty vessel or maybe you have original sin, but
00:04:54 – 00:05:01: everyone has an equal degree of original sin and therefore an equal propensity for sin.
00:05:01 – 00:05:08: Those are theological questions, but science has something to say about it, not that science
00:05:08 – 00:05:13: has anything to say about morality, but that when you look at the facts in the universe
00:05:13 – 00:05:20: in creation and they don't match with a moral theory that isn't actually explicit in Scripture
00:05:20 – 00:05:24: yet somewhat inferred, it's necessary to take another look at how you're reading Scripture
00:05:24 – 00:05:29: because if creation is doing one thing and your reading of Scripture is doing something
00:05:29 – 00:05:34: different, maybe you need to re-synthesize those two things.
00:05:34 – 00:05:38: So the first brief study I'm going to talk about here to give you a sense of where we're
00:05:38 – 00:05:44: bridging this is a twin study. I know twin studies are very valuable when you're looking at human
00:05:44 – 00:05:51: behavior because they allow you to isolate nature from nurture. I think we've all heard those
00:05:51 – 00:05:56: terms before and some people want to say it's all one thing and it's all another, that it's
00:05:56 – 00:06:02: completely deterministic. On the nurture side, they want you to think that if a Midwestern
00:06:03 – 00:06:09: European couple adopts an African child from 6,000 miles away and raises that child speaking
00:06:09 – 00:06:15: English attending church, that that child will behave identically to any of their own children
00:06:15 – 00:06:23: would have behaved. And what twin studies show if they show anything and they always do is that
00:06:24 – 00:06:29: you can account for all of these other variables to the point that the only possible
00:06:29 – 00:06:36: variable remaining is genetic. And so again, race is genetic. When we talk about a race, we're talking
00:06:36 – 00:06:42: about a gene pool that is held in common with a people group. So your family, if you're a father
00:06:42 – 00:06:49: with a wife and you have three kids, that's a gene pool of five people. All the genes your kids
00:06:49 – 00:06:53: have came from you and your wife. When you go up a level to your parents and your grandparents
00:06:54 – 00:07:00: and grandparents, eventually it moves from just family into maybe ethnicity and then into
00:07:00 – 00:07:06: something that we would typically describe as race. You know, or maybe race is English or
00:07:07 – 00:07:13: European, if you don't want to go even further up. But as you come back down, those concentric
00:07:13 – 00:07:19: circles towards the center, the genes that are present will manifest in certain ways. And so
00:07:19 – 00:07:25: what they found in twin studies with young twins, one of the studies I found they had 85 sets
00:07:25 – 00:07:31: of young twins and they found that the children, if they were identical twins, if one of those
00:07:31 – 00:07:38: twins committed a crime as a juvenile, there was a 91% chance that the other twin would commit a
00:07:38 – 00:07:43: crime as well. Now, that's important because you're talking about the same family, you're talking
00:07:44 – 00:07:48: about brothers or sisters, but it would be two of each because they're identical. So they have
00:07:48 – 00:07:56: 100% of their genes in common and you find a 91% overlap in criminality if criminality occurs.
00:07:56 – 00:08:00: Now, that doesn't tell anything by itself because well, maybe that's just the family that they were
00:08:00 – 00:08:06: in. The reason the twin studies are valuable is that they're also fraternal twins and when they
00:08:06 – 00:08:12: looked at a set of identical twins and compared them to fraternal twins, they found that the
00:08:12 – 00:08:17: correlation of juvenile delinquency of criminality is a child. So, you know, we're talking about
00:08:17 – 00:08:22: crimes being committed. We call juvenile delinquency lately, but we're talking about criminals.
00:08:22 – 00:08:28: They're just young criminals. If they're identical, there was a 91% correlation in one child
00:08:28 – 00:08:34: committing a crime and his brother or sister committing similar crimes. For fraternal twins,
00:08:34 – 00:08:41: it goes down to 73%. Now, that difference between 91 and 73 is basically your indication of how much
00:08:41 – 00:08:50: genes will have in the acts of criminality and the remaining 73%. Some of that will also potentially
00:08:50 – 00:08:55: implicate criminal behavior being genetic and not merely social, but you can't refer from a
00:08:55 – 00:09:03: twin study. I want to repeat that 91% if it's twins, they were identical, 73% if you're talking
00:09:03 – 00:09:10: about fraternal. So about a 20% reduction, 18% reduction in the frequency. The reason that's
00:09:10 – 00:09:17: important is that it proves conclusively that there is a small but significant factor of genes
00:09:18 – 00:09:24: causing crime, causing an individual to commit a crime. This is tough for Christians because
00:09:24 – 00:09:29: crime is sin generally. Not all crimes are sin. We've talked about that in the past, but we're talking
00:09:29 – 00:09:33: about, you know, vandalism, violence. We're talking about things that no one is going to argue. These
00:09:33 – 00:09:41: are sins. Genes are a factor in someone committing sins. Now, as Christians, that's a tough pill to
00:09:41 – 00:09:47: swallow if you've never heard this stuff before because we're told that, well, you know, you have a
00:09:47 – 00:09:53: nature to sin. And then when you have a sanctified and redeemed nature and baptism, and as you grow
00:09:53 – 00:10:00: in the faith, that will be replaced, not completely, but to a large degree by your desire to obey God.
00:10:00 – 00:10:04: And then there's the struggle between your desire to sin and your desire to obey God.
00:10:06 – 00:10:11: Not paying any attention to religion, what you find is that the genes themselves are causing
00:10:11 – 00:10:16: or they're responsible for some of the sin. And I think that's an important place to start
00:10:16 – 00:10:22: because it shows that everything that we said last week about race, being biological,
00:10:23 – 00:10:28: this stuff is downstream. There are aspects of human behavior that are downstream from your
00:10:28 – 00:10:35: genes and therefore must necessarily be downstream from your race. When it comes to twin studies,
00:10:36 – 00:10:42: another interesting thing is that these effects hold even if the twins are adopted,
00:10:43 – 00:10:49: which is to say you can see the effect of genetics, even when you have a totally different set of
00:10:49 – 00:10:56: circumstances with regard to environment. So you can disentangle the issue of nurture versus nature,
00:10:56 – 00:11:03: you can demonstrate conclusively that it is a matter of nature because twins raised in different
00:11:03 – 00:11:08: families because they were adopted at birth still end up displaying these sorts of similarities.
00:11:10 – 00:11:20: And for genetics, we now have conclusive proof that there are a number of genes that correlate
00:11:20 – 00:11:25: very strongly with criminal behavior, certain types of criminal behavior. There are a few different
00:11:25 – 00:11:32: ones they regulate various things. Part of it would be regulation of certain areas in the frontal
00:11:32 – 00:11:37: lobe, the frontal lobe being the largest of the four major lobes in the brain of a mammal,
00:11:37 – 00:11:44: that would be frontal parietal temporal occipital. The frontal lobe is where your higher functions are.
00:11:45 – 00:11:51: That's what's going to control your self-control, your willpower, various things like that.
00:11:52 – 00:11:58: Some of these genes that are predictors of criminality are expressed in the frontal lobe.
00:11:59 – 00:12:05: And the reason that is important should be clear. It is important because the frontal lobe directly
00:12:05 – 00:12:11: correlates with your higher functions, with your control of self, with your willpower,
00:12:12 – 00:12:17: with how you actually interact with the world and respond to the world. And so if you have genes
00:12:17 – 00:12:22: that are influencing how this structure develops, how things are expressed in that structure,
00:12:23 – 00:12:29: it is a very real difference from one person to the next if you have differences in that part
00:12:29 – 00:12:31: of the brain and that part of the structure of the brain.
00:12:33 – 00:12:39: And one example would be one of the genes that deals with M-A-O-I, which influences dopamine
00:12:39 – 00:12:47: and serotonin, neurotransmitters that have to do with risk and reward and incentive for behavior
00:12:47 – 00:12:51: without getting too deep into the neuroscience here. That's not our point here.
00:12:51 – 00:12:57: The point is that there are genes we have conclusively provenness. This is a fact we know this.
00:12:58 – 00:13:04: There are genes that code for certain differences in human beings that lead to different outcomes,
00:13:04 – 00:13:09: that lead to different behaviors, and these correlate with race.
00:13:10 – 00:13:16: When it comes to the African populations, you are going to have expressions of these genes
00:13:16 – 00:13:20: that lead to lower levels of self-control and higher levels of violence.
00:13:21 – 00:13:26: And that bears out in crime data. It is not because the police are biased.
00:13:27 – 00:13:31: In fact, if you look at the statistics today, the police are more likely to shoot you if you are white.
00:13:31 – 00:13:39: But that aside, it is not a difference in policing. It is not bias against individuals.
00:13:40 – 00:13:46: It is that those who have certain genetic predispositions are going to be more likely to commit
00:13:46 – 00:13:52: certain kinds of crime and therefore have encounters with the police and respond to the police
00:13:52 – 00:13:58: in a certain way. Because of course, if you have the genes that code for less self-control,
00:13:58 – 00:14:03: are you more likely to remain calm when confronted by an officer who is telling you to put your
00:14:03 – 00:14:08: hands up? No, of course not. And if you don't remain calm, are you more likely to get shot?
00:14:08 – 00:14:13: Yes, of course you are. Does that mean that police don't make mistakes? Of course not, we aren't
00:14:13 – 00:14:20: saying that. But if you have a population that is more prone to certain kinds of crime,
00:14:20 – 00:14:26: that lead to certain kinds of confrontations with law enforcement, you are going to see an increase
00:14:26 – 00:14:32: in certain kinds of outcomes. And the reason that we are specifically talking about this is, again,
00:14:32 – 00:14:38: these are moral issues. We're talking about sin. And as Christians, when you talk about sin,
00:14:39 – 00:14:46: there are certain things that are in play that are important for reconciling us to God. And as,
00:14:46 – 00:14:52: you know, especially as Lutherans, we focus on that reconciliation on repentance, on turning away
00:14:52 – 00:14:59: from acting in evil ways. And when we see evil in the world, our desire is naturally and correctly
00:14:59 – 00:15:06: to want those who are sinning to repent, to turn away from their evil ways. These discussions
00:15:06 – 00:15:15: become completely derailed in the 21st century in particular, specifically because if you exclude
00:15:15 – 00:15:20: the possibility that race can have anything to do with any of these questions, then obviously
00:15:20 – 00:15:27: you're left with, well, the police run fair or society is structurally unequal. You know,
00:15:27 – 00:15:32: you've heard all these things before and it turns out unsurprisingly or maybe surprisingly to some
00:15:32 – 00:15:38: of you, they're all Marxist talking points. The denial of race is a Marxist talking point. The
00:15:38 – 00:15:46: accusation that the police are racist is a Marxist talking point. The idea that race that society
00:15:46 – 00:15:54: itself is unequally structured in ways that disadvantage minorities is a Marxist talking point.
00:15:55 – 00:16:02: All those words I just used, they're used by Marxists. But the linchpin is your willingness to deny
00:16:02 – 00:16:08: the race can possibly even be a variable. Now, Kory and I are not claiming that race is the only
00:16:08 – 00:16:13: variable. And I forgot to mention my intro. There's something that I want to make really clear as you're
00:16:13 – 00:16:18: listening to this, regardless of what you think about what you're saying. There's a fallacy that's
00:16:18 – 00:16:24: kind of an informal fallacy, but it's very popularly said, particularly online lately, that's Naxalt,
00:16:24 – 00:16:33: N-A-X-A-L-T. And that's an acronym that stands for not all X are like that. So in other words,
00:16:33 – 00:16:41: if we say to you that an African in America is more likely to commit a murder than a European in
00:16:41 – 00:16:48: America, the instinctive response from someone who has been shaped by this world is to shout Naxalt
00:16:48 – 00:16:53: to say not all X are like that, not all Africans are like that. I know a black guy. He's never killed
00:16:53 – 00:17:00: anyone. It's a fallacy because the fact that you know a guy doesn't disprove the trend. The fact
00:17:00 – 00:17:06: that the numbers bear out the trend proves that something is going on. And it is entirely it's an
00:17:06 – 00:17:13: entirely fair question to ask, are the police being unfair to one group? That's a fair question.
00:17:13 – 00:17:17: We're not saying that's not a fair question. We're saying that the conclusions that are reached
00:17:17 – 00:17:22: in many cases are false. It's Corey said, I'm a white man. I'm far more likely to be killed by
00:17:22 – 00:17:28: police than a black man who behaves in the same way as me. Now I behave in a very law-biting,
00:17:28 – 00:17:36: boring way. So I'm unlikely to be confronted by a cop, but in the event of any police confrontation,
00:17:36 – 00:17:41: I'm more likely to be killed because there's not a social stigma to a cop shooting a white guy.
00:17:41 – 00:17:46: There's no one who's going to riot on my behalf. If I end up dead, whether the cop was right or not,
00:17:46 – 00:17:51: no one's going to care except my family and a few friends. Everyone else seemed like, well,
00:17:51 – 00:17:56: you know, whatever. He got shot. He probably deserved it. The opposite is true whenever it's a
00:17:56 – 00:18:02: non-white who is involved in a physical confrontation with the police with any authorities.
00:18:02 – 00:18:09: It always is automatically assumed that they were singled out for some completely unfair reason.
00:18:09 – 00:18:15: Now, as I just said, it's not an unfair question, but it is an unfair accusation because it's
00:18:15 – 00:18:24: usually not the case, even in places where you find that there is disproportionate use of violence
00:18:24 – 00:18:30: against African Americans versus white Americans. You still have to ask yourself,
00:18:31 – 00:18:36: what was the individual doing in all of those cases? If a cop tells me to put my hands on my head
00:18:36 – 00:18:40: and get down my knees, I'm just going to do it because I don't want to get beat and I don't want
00:18:40 – 00:18:46: to get shot. As we all see over and over again in police videos, that is often not the reaction
00:18:46 – 00:18:52: from African Americans, increasingly as this sort of rhetoric has taken hold in the world
00:18:52 – 00:18:57: and they're being told, the cops are out to get you. You're a victim. We'll in a cop
00:18:57 – 00:19:03: pulls someone over who's African American. He may already be primed by that rhetoric to think
00:19:03 – 00:19:07: I'm being victimized. I'm the victim of a crime right here and it's a cop who's committing the
00:19:07 – 00:19:13: crime. So there's a natural instinct even on top of the genetic factors to think maybe I should
00:19:13 – 00:19:18: fight back. Maybe I'm fighting for justice if I wrestle this cop. Who's more likely to get shot
00:19:18 – 00:19:23: at that point, me who gets out of my hands and knees or get out my knees with my hands on my head
00:19:23 – 00:19:29: or the guy who fights the cop and reaches for his gun. Any honest person will tell you the guy
00:19:29 – 00:19:34: who fights the cop is more likely to get hurt. Now, if it is Africans who are more likely to fight
00:19:34 – 00:19:41: the cop, then yes, it is Africans who are more likely to get hurt by cops. It does not follow
00:19:41 – 00:19:47: that the cops are more likely to hurt Africans. What follows potentially, and I think the
00:19:47 – 00:19:52: data bears us out is that cops are more likely to hurt Africans who try to kill them in the pursuit
00:19:52 – 00:19:59: of ill-awful arrest. You can't tease any single factor out of any of this. And all we're trying to do
00:19:59 – 00:20:07: with this discussion is to make the biology of race and the factors that are a fundamental element
00:20:07 – 00:20:13: of the human experience that come from our race. There are a factor in these societal concerns
00:20:13 – 00:20:20: because when George Floyd passed fake $20 bill while he was high on a level of fatten all that
00:20:20 – 00:20:26: was going to kill him, whether or not the cops showed up, someone called the cops because he
00:20:26 – 00:20:31: was committing a felony. He was arrested. He refused to be put in the car. Despite them having
00:20:31 – 00:20:36: pulled him out of a car, he said, I'm claustrophobic. I can't be put in a vehicle. I can't breathe.
00:20:37 – 00:20:42: Now, the video that most people see begins at that point with the guy in handcuffs saying,
00:20:42 – 00:20:46: I can't breathe, I can't breathe. If you pay attention, he was saying he couldn't breathe
00:20:46 – 00:20:51: when he was being put in the back of the vehicle while he was still upright. But the video usually
00:20:51 – 00:20:57: doesn't start there because it doesn't tell the story that we were all told to believe,
00:20:57 – 00:21:02: which was that the cops murdered a man who was peacefully being arrested.
00:21:03 – 00:21:12: If you bring givens to that scene that deny the possibility that maybe a population group is
00:21:12 – 00:21:16: more likely to behave in a certain way, of course you're going to think, well, the cops wouldn't
00:21:16 – 00:21:21: have done that to me and they did it to him so the cops were bad. Well, what we're telling you
00:21:21 – 00:21:26: is that the cops probably wouldn't do that to you because you wouldn't fight them. And the fact
00:21:26 – 00:21:32: that whites are still more likely to be injured or killed by cops and arrests is not about the
00:21:32 – 00:21:37: fighting. It's about again, the fact that a cop is going to go too much further lengths typically
00:21:37 – 00:21:43: to not use a gun when there's an African-American involved because they don't want to be,
00:21:43 – 00:21:47: they don't have their house burned down. They don't want to go to prison for the rest of their
00:21:47 – 00:21:54: life like Derek Chauvin is facing for a lawful arrest. It's perfectly sensible that they would take
00:21:55 – 00:22:02: more care and be less likely to escalate violence even when the violence is justified by the force
00:22:02 – 00:22:07: use of force guidelines that their own police departments haven't played because if you do
00:22:07 – 00:22:11: it to a white guy, you're not going to get in as much trouble. That's a factor. And as a factor,
00:22:11 – 00:22:17: it gets ignored when these conversations are being had. But when it comes from the church and when
00:22:17 – 00:22:24: it comes from places like the new large catechism with annotations, they say things like the cops are
00:22:24 – 00:22:31: being mean to minorities or being mean to African-Americans at a higher degree of frequency
00:22:31 – 00:22:37: than to whites. That's not fair. They're being racist. If race is a factor, then there's other
00:22:37 – 00:22:42: things going on. And as an honest person, you must look at those other factors before making any
00:22:42 – 00:22:48: decision, you may look at all of the data honestly and still conclude, yeah, the cops are racist.
00:22:48 – 00:22:53: And there are cases where the cops do bad things. Cops are human beings and some of them are dirty.
00:22:54 – 00:22:59: That doesn't mean that all police are automatically bad. Just doesn't mean all police are
00:22:59 – 00:23:03: automatically good or that all suspects are automatically guilty and deserve to be killed.
00:23:04 – 00:23:09: The other side doesn't hold either. All suspects are not automatically innocent and they're not
00:23:09 – 00:23:15: automatically not fighting back and deserving a level of force in some case might get someone
00:23:15 – 00:23:20: killed. When you look at all the facts, you must conclude that you haven't done your due
00:23:20 – 00:23:26: jail diligence to have an opinion until you've looked at races a factor specifically because race
00:23:26 – 00:23:32: has behavioral manifestations that as a Christian, you say, well, that's sin. And if you're a
00:23:32 – 00:23:36: someone who's just a statistician, you're going to say, oh, well, those are crime statistics.
00:23:37 – 00:23:41: When you're dealing with the reality, you have to look at all the variables and races,
00:23:41 – 00:23:46: always a variable. And in these cases, it's frequently the most important variable.
00:23:46 – 00:23:51: So let's look at crime for one particular city, just as an example.
00:23:52 – 00:23:57: These data are from 2010. You will find if you start looking for this that is increasingly
00:23:57 – 00:24:02: difficult to find data from the last handful of years because these reports produced by the
00:24:02 – 00:24:07: government, incidentally, are very embarrassing to the government because they do not match the
00:24:07 – 00:24:14: narrative. Now, there are actually problems with these data, but unfortunately for those who would
00:24:14 – 00:24:19: try to say that is systemic racism or something to that effect, the data are actually biased
00:24:19 – 00:24:26: against whites and in favor of others because for instance, the FBI has long and some of the
00:24:26 – 00:24:31: reports held Hispanic to be a victim category, but not a perpetrator category. And so they're
00:24:31 – 00:24:36: lumped in with whites, which obviously raises the white crime rate as you will see very shortly
00:24:36 – 00:24:42: here when I read this table of data. But anyway, these are data from Chicago in 2010.
00:24:43 – 00:24:50: I'm going to give you the multiple of the white crime rate with regard to the Hispanic and
00:24:50 – 00:24:55: Black populations. So to say that another way to make sure that it's entirely clear,
00:24:56 – 00:25:01: if per a given number of the population, a thousand, a million, whatever,
00:25:02 – 00:25:07: whites commit one crime of this variety, I am going to give you the multiple for the Hispanic
00:25:07 – 00:25:14: population and the Black population. We'll start with narcotics, arrests for narcotics,
00:25:15 – 00:25:24: Hispanic 2.5, that's 2.5 times as likely as whites to be arrested for narcotics, blacks 11.5.
00:25:25 – 00:25:35: Auto theft, Hispanics 4.5, blacks 19.9. Sexual assault, Hispanics 4.9, blacks 10.4.
00:25:36 – 00:25:48: Robbery, Hispanics 3.9, blacks 27.3. Murder, Hispanics 6.7, blacks 23.8. And again,
00:25:48 – 00:25:58: that is to say that it is 23.8 times as likely that the arrestee is black. It for these data,
00:25:58 – 00:26:06: Chicago 2010 for murder. As can be seen, there is a very clear racial component to violent crime.
00:26:07 – 00:26:12: And this plays out across every city in the US. We could show you data for any large city.
00:26:13 – 00:26:17: They're all the same. And it's not just the US because of course, there are those who will try
00:26:17 – 00:26:22: to say, well, the US has this history of X, Y and Z. And so of course, this happens to minorities.
00:26:22 – 00:26:30: No, it is the same in London. It is the same in Paris. It is the same in pick any major city,
00:26:30 – 00:26:37: pick a major city in South Africa. It plays out everywhere the same way. Race is a determining
00:26:37 – 00:26:44: factor for crime rate. The data are very clear. They are irrefutable. We know this.
00:26:45 – 00:26:52: And of course, there are those who will say, well, how do we know that it's race? Maybe it's
00:26:52 – 00:26:57: poverty. That's the one that is often brought up or unemployment or education. These are the
00:26:57 – 00:27:04: three big ones that usually come up. And we're told if they only had more opportunity, if they had
00:27:04 – 00:27:09: jobs, if they had been educated, if we had welfare, wealth transfers, then we wouldn't have the
00:27:09 – 00:27:16: crime rate. And it's fair to ask that. It is in fact good to ask that. You should ask that
00:27:16 – 00:27:23: question, but it doesn't work. Here is the correlation. Now, if you've taken statistics, you will
00:27:23 – 00:27:29: understand how this works. If you haven't taken statistics, a number that is closer to one is a
00:27:29 – 00:27:35: higher correlation. A higher correlation very strongly implies there is a causal relationship.
00:27:35 – 00:27:40: And yes, of course, someone is currently screaming that correlation doesn't mean causation.
00:27:41 – 00:27:47: Well, it winks at it and usually it does mean it. In this case, it does because it's the sole
00:27:47 – 00:27:55: explanatory factor. But for instance, we'll start with poverty. If you map poverty onto violent
00:27:55 – 00:28:03: crimes per 100,000 population for a large city, the correlation is 0.36. That is a weak correlation.
00:28:04 – 00:28:08: You are looking for a strong correlation, looking for something 0.7 to 0.9 range.
00:28:08 – 00:28:15: So let's look at the percentage of those who did not complete high school. Increasing
00:28:15 – 00:28:20: percentage didn't complete high school does it correlate with an increasing violent crime rate.
00:28:21 – 00:28:28: 0.37. Not much stronger than poverty. Let's look at unemployment. For unemployment, if you have
00:28:28 – 00:28:35: an increasing unemployment rate, does that lead to an increase in violent crime rate? 0.35.
00:28:35 – 00:28:41: Even less of a predicting factor, even less of a correlation than poverty and education level,
00:28:41 – 00:28:46: or lack of education in this case. Now let's look at the percentage of the population that is
00:28:46 – 00:28:55: black or Hispanic. 0.81. That is a very high correlation. That is an explanatory factor. And we see
00:28:55 – 00:29:01: this again playing out in every major city across the world. This is not uniquely American. It is
00:29:01 – 00:29:07: not unique to big cities here. It is not unique to a region. This is simply a trend that holds
00:29:08 – 00:29:13: across the world. And so as Christians, we have to deal with this. We don't simply get to ignore
00:29:13 – 00:29:19: it, shove it under the rug, hand wave it away, because that would be a betrayal of our brothers
00:29:19 – 00:29:26: and sisters, to whom we owe a duty. We owe a duty of care to those who are entrusted to our care.
00:29:27 – 00:29:33: And that requires us to look at the world, not through rose tinted glasses, but with open eyes,
00:29:33 – 00:29:40: to see the reality of what is represented in these data and then to act appropriately
00:29:41 – 00:29:44: with regard to these data to achieve proper moral ends.
00:29:46 – 00:29:53: I have some similar data from the 2021 collection from the FBI, so it's nationwide. It bears
00:29:54 – 00:29:58: out exactly pretty much identical to what you find wherever there are African populations.
00:29:59 – 00:30:04: There are a couple other points I want to tease out from that. We all know that men are more
00:30:04 – 00:30:11: violent than women. It's our nature. A man has on average 15 times more testosterone than a woman
00:30:11 – 00:30:18: regardless of race. I don't know how it adjusts for race, but more testosterone typically correlates
00:30:18 – 00:30:23: to higher degrees of aggression. Now that doesn't say anything about self-control. It just means
00:30:23 – 00:30:29: that men are more likely to behave in a violent way than women are. And we see that in the FBI
00:30:29 – 00:30:37: crime statistics for whites. In the US in 2021, a white man was five times more likely than a
00:30:37 – 00:30:43: white woman to kill someone. So that's five times greater when you're looking at men versus women.
00:30:44 – 00:30:50: What's interesting is when you compare white men to black women, then you find that black women
00:30:50 – 00:30:58: are 1.7 times more likely than white men to commit murders. So that's tremendous. That's a huge
00:30:58 – 00:31:08: increase where the population of women among Africans is more homicidally violent than white men.
00:31:09 – 00:31:14: You're never going to hear anyone tell you that because of the implications. What does it
00:31:14 – 00:31:21: mean as a society if there is this preponderance for violence and for brutal violence? We're not
00:31:21 – 00:31:27: just talking about fist fights or arguments. We're talking about dead bodies being attributed to
00:31:27 – 00:31:36: individuals. The nationwide average was, as Cory said, 18 times more likely for a black man to
00:31:36 – 00:31:42: kill than a white man. And one really startling statistic that emerges is that I have this
00:31:42 – 00:31:51: race, this data broken down also by age. So that 18 percent, sorry, the 18 times is specific to
00:31:51 – 00:31:56: everyone between the ages of 18 and 64. So basically peak physical condition for men,
00:31:56 – 00:32:01: you know, from from their adolescent years until you start to get too old to really do too much
00:32:01 – 00:32:09: violence, 18 times more likely. However, again, the average for white men is about five. The average
00:32:09 – 00:32:19: for black males between the age of five and 14 is also five. Five to 14-year-old African boy
00:32:19 – 00:32:25: is more likely to murder you than any white man, regardless of circumstance. That's that's
00:32:25 – 00:32:31: tremendous. When you consider the physical disparity in the, what would cause a five-year-old to
00:32:31 – 00:32:37: 14-year-old? Obviously, that probably slews more towards what we call the teenage years. It's
00:32:37 – 00:32:41: probably mostly over 10. I don't have that broken down. But the fact that that degree of violence
00:32:41 – 00:32:48: would be found among kids who are so small that yet they can still cause a death. Obviously,
00:32:48 – 00:32:54: that's probably mostly talking about weapons. Usually it's going to be firearms. Sometimes it's
00:32:54 – 00:33:02: going to be knives. That's something that has societal implications. And it goes beyond simply
00:33:02 – 00:33:09: while we have a sin problem or while we have economic problems. These statistics bear out
00:33:10 – 00:33:14: over and over again. And Corey said this, we didn't make it explicit. When we're talking about
00:33:14 – 00:33:20: worldwide, we're talking about Africans behaving with this degree of violence wherever they live.
00:33:20 – 00:33:25: It doesn't matter if they live in the US or if they live somewhere in Africa or if they've been
00:33:25 – 00:33:30: imported to somewhere in Europe recently has happened many, many times. There are millions and
00:33:30 – 00:33:34: millions of Africans living in Europe today who aren't living there at the turn of the century.
00:33:35 – 00:33:42: That's artificial. And it's causing violent crime to go through the roof in places that never
00:33:42 – 00:33:49: had any crime before. And we're talking about sin. But as Corey said, we're also talking about
00:33:50 – 00:33:54: care for your neighbor and care for your own brother according to the flesh.
00:33:54 – 00:34:00: An African is not my brother. He may be my brother according to Christ, but he is not my brother
00:34:00 – 00:34:06: according to the flesh. That's not an insult to him. It is not demigrating him as a man or to say
00:34:06 – 00:34:12: he is less than it is to say he's not physically my brother. I have a duty to my brother.
00:34:12 – 00:34:18: Scripture makes that clear. And a failure for us to look to our own to make sure that they are
00:34:18 – 00:34:27: cared for has moral implications too. I have a study here from the National Institutes of Health
00:34:27 – 00:34:33: just to flesh out the issue of testosterone level and criminality because there is a correlation
00:34:33 – 00:34:38: there. We are not going to deny that men commit more crime. And there is some correlation with
00:34:38 – 00:34:43: testosterone level because of course testosterone if it's high enough is going to lead to certain
00:34:43 – 00:34:49: kinds of impulsivity as any male who has gone through puberty is well aware. Between the ages
00:34:49 – 00:34:55: of 12 and 15 black males actually have lower testosterone than white males. However,
00:34:57 – 00:35:04: black male testosterone rapidly increases around that age and then from the ages about 20 to 39,
00:35:05 – 00:35:10: blacks have a higher level of testosterone than whites. This is just comparing men because
00:35:10 – 00:35:15: obviously women have testosterone as well. And there are hormonal considerations for women
00:35:15 – 00:35:21: and criminality as well. But we're focusing on men right now. However, testosterone level
00:35:21 – 00:35:27: for blacks drops off precipitously after that age and falls much more rapidly than for whites.
00:35:28 – 00:35:33: And one of the effects that we see of this is actually not a this not a criminal matters not
00:35:33 – 00:35:38: criminality. But we see health consequences of this because testosterone level correlates
00:35:38 – 00:35:45: inversely in later life at any rate with prostate cancer. And so we see much higher rates
00:35:45 – 00:35:51: of prostate cancer in blacks than in whites. So for instance, between 2015 and 2019,
00:35:51 – 00:36:00: the incidence of prostate cancer in black men was 176 and some change per 100,000. It was only 104
00:36:00 – 00:36:06: for whites. And that's purely a matter of genetics, a matter of testosterone level,
00:36:06 – 00:36:13: particularly when you're over the age of 40. And so this is again, in instance of genetics
00:36:13 – 00:36:20: influencing and to some degree, indeed determining behavior. Because yes, we we're not saying that
00:36:20 – 00:36:26: you don't have free will. We're not saying that human beings cannot choose not to commit a crime.
00:36:26 – 00:36:33: That's not what we're saying. We are saying there are certain impulses, certain incentives
00:36:33 – 00:36:40: inherent to certain genetic groups. You are going to be more prone to certain behaviors
00:36:40 – 00:36:46: if you have a certain genetic foundation. And of course, we all know this. And as Christians,
00:36:46 – 00:36:53: we have to affirm this because for instance, if you are genetically male, you are in fact programmed
00:36:53 – 00:37:02: to like women. If you are genetically female, you are programmed to like men. Worth noting actually
00:37:02 – 00:37:09: just as a sort of a side that the CDC hasn't quite updated their charts yet. And prostate cancers
00:37:09 – 00:37:16: list it as exclusively a male issue denying me. I know they they're someone will get someone
00:37:16 – 00:37:21: listening to the podcast. Someone's going to get in trouble for that because it does say male
00:37:21 – 00:37:25: on the charts, only men who can get that because of course only men have a prostate.
00:37:26 – 00:37:31: To be explicit, those that programming for a man to like a woman and woman to like a man,
00:37:31 – 00:37:38: that's not societally assigned. That's not culturally conformed. That's from God. God knows that
00:37:38 – 00:37:43: desire. Yes, it is purely biology. There the fact that there is a corruption
00:37:45 – 00:37:53: through culture of impulses and of perceived desires does not change. The God made us a certain
00:37:53 – 00:37:59: way. And although that can be corrupted over time in genes and it can be corrupted societally
00:37:59 – 00:38:03: and culturally, it doesn't change the fact that when we talk about how God made us,
00:38:04 – 00:38:10: that is only to his glory. And wherever there is detriment is a scribe to sin and to the fall.
00:38:10 – 00:38:15: But we cannot exclude those factors just because they make us uncomfortable.
00:38:15 – 00:38:21: And it's worth emphasizing that here. Insofar as anything is good in human nature because of
00:38:21 – 00:38:28: course human nature created by God, corrupted by the fall corrupted by original sin,
00:38:28 – 00:38:33: our nature is not original sin. Our nature was not replaced by original sin. That would be a
00:38:33 – 00:38:41: heresy because that would be to say that Satan created our original nature. No. Original sin corrupts
00:38:41 – 00:38:47: our nature. Insofar as anything good remains in human nature that is from God. So the fact that
00:38:47 – 00:38:52: men are attracted to women, that is from God, the fact that women are attracted to men,
00:38:52 – 00:38:58: that is from God, the fact that certain populations have a genetic predisposition to criminality
00:38:59 – 00:39:08: is not from God. That is a corruption of their nature due to original sin and due to generational
00:39:08 – 00:39:16: worship of demons. There are real consequences in the real world in the flesh for those who worship
00:39:16 – 00:39:22: demons. And these accrue over time we clearly see from history and from nature.
00:39:23 – 00:39:31: It is not consequence-free if your ancestors for 6,000 years give or take worshiped demons.
00:39:32 – 00:39:38: God blesses those who obey. He just as certainly curses those who rebel.
00:39:38 – 00:39:44: And that is what we are dealing with here. We see these issues in certain populations
00:39:44 – 00:39:51: because their ancestors worshiped demons. And they worshiped particularly heinous demons in
00:39:51 – 00:40:00: particularly heinous ways for a very long time. Now I am not saying that Europeans did not have pagan
00:40:00 – 00:40:06: ancestors because we did have a period of paganism in our own lines and our own history. It's
00:40:06 – 00:40:12: difficult to pin down exactly when it started. We know very well when it ended because we have
00:40:12 – 00:40:17: that history written down by the Christians who went and converted the pagans back to Christianity
00:40:17 – 00:40:22: because of course they were originally Christian. When Japhith stepped off the ark,
00:40:22 – 00:40:29: he stepped off the ark, a Christian. He moved to Europe, a Christian. He taught his sons,
00:40:29 – 00:40:34: Christianity. They taught their sons Christianity. At some point the demons came in. It broke down.
00:40:34 – 00:40:40: They started worshiping demons. They became pagans. They did not become as bad as many other pagans.
00:40:41 – 00:40:49: Child sacrifice was not as common in Europe. They did not engage in cannibalism. They didn't
00:40:49 – 00:40:55: share their wives. They didn't have communal wives. And you can read even pagan Roman authors
00:40:55 – 00:41:01: who commended the Germans as they called them. There was the Germanic tribes at the time for
00:41:01 – 00:41:08: their morality with regard to sexual ethics. And that's from a pagan source. So this is not
00:41:08 – 00:41:14: something that is just made up out of the ether. We know this. We have documentation for this.
00:41:15 – 00:41:20: The degree to which you fall to demon worship and the depth of the depravity and the evil in which
00:41:20 – 00:41:28: your ancestors engaged can vary across populations. The Canaanites, in scripture, singled out for being
00:41:28 – 00:41:34: particularly wicked. So wicked that God told the Israelites to destroy them utterly.
00:41:35 – 00:41:43: The pagans in the new world when the Spanish conquistadors and others found them were so wicked,
00:41:43 – 00:41:50: so depraved that it was incomprehensible to the Christian conquerors just how wicked these people
00:41:50 – 00:41:57: were, what they were doing, the evil acts in which they were engaging. That was not the case
00:41:57 – 00:42:02: with what was found by Christian missionaries when they moved north into European territory.
00:42:02 – 00:42:07: Yes, the European pagans were worshiping demons. Yes, they had fallen away from God. No,
00:42:07 – 00:42:14: they had not fallen as far. Would they have almost certainly over time, yes. But they had not yet.
00:42:14 – 00:42:19: And so there are real consequences for this. And that is what we see playing out. That is what
00:42:19 – 00:42:25: these data reflect. These data reflect the consequence of moving away from God.
00:42:26 – 00:42:32: The comments you just made are something that was basically the second hour of our episode a
00:42:32 – 00:42:36: while ago on election. If you haven't listened to that yet, or if you haven't listened to while,
00:42:36 – 00:42:43: it's worth going back and relisting to it because we make the case there, which is being reiterated
00:42:43 – 00:42:51: here that when we say that there are substantial biological differences that have moral consequences
00:42:51 – 00:42:58: in population groups, in racial groups, it is not a judgment against those groups because we
00:42:58 – 00:43:04: don't like them or because they look different. It is in fact rooted in the history of those groups.
00:43:04 – 00:43:10: As Corey said, and as you can hear in the election episode, when they came off the arc,
00:43:10 – 00:43:15: there was no evidence when Christians finally got to the to the New World and got into the
00:43:15 – 00:43:23: center of Africa between about 15 and 16 1700 AD. There was no evidence that anything other than
00:43:23 – 00:43:30: absolute demon worship had ever existed in those places. They had an extra 2,000 years nearly
00:43:30 – 00:43:34: on top of the Europeans of communing with those demons and the consequences
00:43:35 – 00:43:40: exist to this day. One of the maps that we will include in the show notes is a so-called
00:43:40 – 00:43:47: diversity versus homicide rate map. It's two maps broken down by county of the United States.
00:43:48 – 00:43:55: It shows county by county color coding demographics. So are the counties more than 85 percent white
00:43:55 – 00:44:02: or do they have more than 20 percent African-American, Asian, Hispanic, or Latino or Native American
00:44:02 – 00:44:08: populations? And then right beneath it is a homicide rate chart. You can look at both of those maps
00:44:08 – 00:44:13: that are color coded differently and you can clearly see from the maps where the Africans
00:44:13 – 00:44:20: and where the Indians live by the homicide rates. Now that's exactly what Corey was just
00:44:20 – 00:44:25: intimating with those comments. The fact that the Indians for 4,000 years communed with demons
00:44:26 – 00:44:34: has consequences and the Marxists want you to believe it's poverty. It's structural racism
00:44:34 – 00:44:39: that they are, they were put on reservations and we were mean to them and that makes them more
00:44:39 – 00:44:45: likely to kill themselves and to kill other people. That's a theory. It's a theory worth
00:44:45 – 00:44:49: examining and it's a theory that's been examined and it doesn't fall, it doesn't hold water.
00:44:49 – 00:44:55: It falls apart completely when you look at these other factors. The same is true with Africans.
00:44:55 – 00:45:01: There's a huge belt in the South primarily where most African-Americans live to this day.
00:45:01 – 00:45:07: The only exceptions, fascinatingly, where you don't see, where you see large African-American
00:45:07 – 00:45:13: populations elsewhere in this country are cities. They're the once formerly great cities
00:45:13 – 00:45:20: primarily of the Midwest. If you go back to the turn of the 20th century, so 1900,
00:45:20 – 00:45:25: and you look at depictions, either pictures or just descriptions of life in Baltimore,
00:45:25 – 00:45:36: in Chicago, in St. Louis, in Cleveland, these places had art and refinement and peace and beauty
00:45:36 – 00:45:43: that rivaled any European city of the same day. Why? Because they had been created and built by
00:45:43 – 00:45:50: Europeans in the fashion of their culture. That changed after the Great Migration,
00:45:51 – 00:45:58: which is a complete euphemism. There was a deliberate movement of African-Americans from the South
00:45:58 – 00:46:04: into these cities and it was principally pushed by industrialists, not all of them in those cities,
00:46:04 – 00:46:11: but what they wanted was cheaper labor because the native populations, the white populations,
00:46:11 – 00:46:16: in those cities were getting to be more expensive than the capitalist wanted to pay them. So what
00:46:16 – 00:46:21: they do, they started a program of busing African-American men up because they would work for a
00:46:21 – 00:46:27: whole lot less because they had been living in absolute poverty. We will talk in the IQ episode
00:46:27 – 00:46:32: in a couple of weeks about why there are poverty differences among population groups. We're not
00:46:32 – 00:46:37: really going to get into that today, but again, where we are told by Marxist that, oh, that's
00:46:37 – 00:46:43: society being mean. That's you being racist. That's someone discriminating. When you look at the
00:46:43 – 00:46:49: data, it almost always comes down to IQ. That's a subject for another day. But the fact of the
00:46:49 – 00:46:56: so-called Great Migration moving these populations of African-Americans into these northern cities
00:46:57 – 00:47:03: seated their destruction. When I say St. Louis or Chicago or Baltimore today, almost no one is
00:47:03 – 00:47:09: going to picture the sort of idyllic places that you can see if you look at the world fair
00:47:09 – 00:47:15: a century ago when it was happening in some of those places. What changed? Demographics changed.
00:47:15 – 00:47:21: It wasn't politics. It was that the demographic mix shifted from being almost entirely white
00:47:21 – 00:47:30: cities to being cities with very large African-American populations. That has real-world consequences.
00:47:30 – 00:47:34: It's something that if we're honest with ourselves, we have to at least acknowledge that change
00:47:34 – 00:47:40: something. We're not going to get into prescriptions for what we do about it today, but I think that
00:47:40 – 00:47:45: if you're going to be honest with yourself, you have to confront the fact that when you look at a
00:47:45 – 00:47:51: map of violence and you look at a map of race and they're the same picture, you can't, if you're
00:47:51 – 00:47:57: honest with yourself, just chalk that up to, well, they must have been disadvantaged somehow.
00:47:57 – 00:48:01: Where did you get that? You didn't get it from data. You got it from someone telling you that
00:48:01 – 00:48:05: to make you feel better, to make you feel like all these people are exactly the same and I'm not
00:48:05 – 00:48:11: going to look too closely because I might not like what I find. Let's talk about another crime.
00:48:11 – 00:48:15: We did say that this might be an episode you might not want to listen to with your children,
00:48:15 – 00:48:21: so let's talk about rape. Again, I'm going to give data for
00:48:23 – 00:48:28: multiples of the white rate. These data are for California in 2013.
00:48:29 – 00:48:36: Forcible rape, California, 2013. The white rate, of course, again, we're going with one because
00:48:36 – 00:48:42: that is the standard by which we are comparing the others, the Hispanic rate, 2.25, the Black
00:48:42 – 00:48:51: rate, 6.36. Now, that only tells part of the story and the reason that only tells part of the
00:48:51 – 00:48:57: story is because you have to know the percentages of the population in order to know how meaningful
00:48:57 – 00:49:05: those numbers are. This is a game that many will play particularly on the left when talking about
00:49:05 – 00:49:11: violent crime. They'll use absolute numbers instead of per capita. And if you use absolute numbers,
00:49:11 – 00:49:17: if you're talking about a population that is 90% of the total, well, obviously the absolute
00:49:17 – 00:49:22: numbers are almost certainly going to be higher than those of the remaining 10%. And so you have to
00:49:22 – 00:49:27: talk about per capita. You have to talk about relative percentages, relative numbers.
00:49:28 – 00:49:40: In 2013, the racial makeup of California, 39% white, 38% and some change Hispanic, 5.7% Black.
00:49:41 – 00:49:52: Now, back to those numbers. If 5.7% of the population is Black, and they commit 6.36 times
00:49:52 – 00:50:02: as many forcible rapes as whites, the actual multiple is 110. It's a little over 110. I can't
00:50:02 – 00:50:11: do that math in my head exactly. That is an immense increase. That is astronomical. How much higher of a
00:50:11 – 00:50:18: rate of forcible rape, you have attributed to the Black population than the White. And it is worth
00:50:18 – 00:50:26: noting that if you look at the FBI data, white on black rape does not happen. It is a zero in the
00:50:26 – 00:50:35: tables. Basically, all of the interracial rape in the US is black on white. There's some Hispanic
00:50:35 – 00:50:43: on white as well, but less of that. It is almost all black on white. And so when Christians pretend
00:50:43 – 00:50:48: that these things don't matter, what you're saying to every woman who has been forcibly raped is
00:50:48 – 00:50:54: you don't matter. I don't see race. I don't consider these things. You're telling her she doesn't
00:50:54 – 00:51:01: matter. And that's why these things matter. That's why we are discussing these issues. That's why
00:51:01 – 00:51:07: it is important. Because you have to recognize the reality if you are going to set appropriate
00:51:07 – 00:51:14: policies to protect your people. And if you don't, you are telling them you do not care about them.
00:51:14 – 00:51:21: And that is not Christian in the slightest. We now have generations of men who have been derelict
00:51:21 – 00:51:26: in their duty, who have not protected women from these sexual predators. They have done nothing
00:51:26 – 00:51:33: about it. They have made the situation infinitely worse. And they have shouted down anyone who dares to
00:51:33 – 00:51:39: even read the table of data. And this is from the California Department of Justice. This is
00:51:39 – 00:51:45: published by the government. These are probably biased against what we are saying. So the reality of
00:51:45 – 00:51:52: the situation, it's probably far worse. And when we talk about this subject and we talk about it
00:51:52 – 00:51:59: in the United States context, we're talking about it in terms of crime. So we have a concept of rape.
00:51:59 – 00:52:06: It's obviously an evil, violent, horrific invasion of another person. It's one of the worst
00:52:06 – 00:52:13: things you can possibly do to another human being. That is what we as Christians believe and understand.
00:52:14 – 00:52:22: However, if you talk to someone who has spent time in Africa living among Africans as themselves
00:52:22 – 00:52:28: in their honest with you, they will tell you that in Africa, they do not typically have any
00:52:28 – 00:52:36: concept of rape. What I mean by that is that when a boy or a man reaches sexual maturity and he
00:52:37 – 00:52:46: is filled with desire, he will see a woman or a girl. It may be a relative. He will go over,
00:52:46 – 00:52:50: he will bend her over and he will have sex with her. And that's perfectly normal.
00:52:51 – 00:52:55: Now to us, that's absolutely shocking. And we say, oh, well, that can be. And you might come
00:52:55 – 00:53:00: up with a hundred conclusions and a hundred excuses and say, oh, well, that's just cultural.
00:53:01 – 00:53:08: Well, when we see the similar behavior in other countries, which is exactly what we see,
00:53:08 – 00:53:13: when these people move to Europe today, when you have someone taken from Africa today,
00:53:13 – 00:53:17: and they move to Europe or some of the Middle Easterners who are very similar, move to Europe,
00:53:19 – 00:53:26: the rate of rape in those places has skyrocketed. And many of them, when they're charged and they're
00:53:26 – 00:53:31: interviewed, they will flat out, they'll be confused. We'll say, I didn't know it was against the
00:53:31 – 00:53:38: rules because in their mind, they have a sexual urge. They see someone with whom they can satisfy
00:53:38 – 00:53:45: that urge and they just do it. There's no notion of criminality baked into the system.
00:53:45 – 00:53:52: Now, you can argue potentially with those who are coming from Africa, oh, that's entirely cultural.
00:53:52 – 00:53:56: But the missionaries will tell you it's an incredible uphill battle to try to convince these
00:53:56 – 00:54:01: people to stop raping their own family members because that's what it is. It's incest in its rape
00:54:01 – 00:54:06: and they don't see anything wrong with it. And we wonder why they were still living in the
00:54:06 – 00:54:14: stone age when we found them. The fact that you see similar rates of violence of a sexual
00:54:14 – 00:54:20: nature in the United States by populations that in some cases left Africa three and 400 years ago,
00:54:22 – 00:54:30: we're telling you that there's a genetic basis for what we describe as criminality and amorality.
00:54:30 – 00:54:33: And that's an extremely hard thing for people to hear. And I'm sure that there are many who will
00:54:34 – 00:54:40: flatly reject even the possibility that that could be true. There could be a genetic basis
00:54:40 – 00:54:48: for something as evil as rape or murder. You're not going to find an alternative explanation
00:54:48 – 00:54:54: because there's no other factor in any of this that remotely correlates to the behavior that we see.
00:54:55 – 00:55:02: And as Corey was saying, when we bring these people from a foreign land into our own lands,
00:55:02 – 00:55:07: you know, they're Ethiopians being shipped to Columbus, Ohio all the time. It's happening all
00:55:07 – 00:55:15: over the country. And then they act like Africans in Columbus. Can we even get mad at them?
00:55:15 – 00:55:23: That's it's such a disconnect between our expectations and our requirements for being a human being
00:55:23 – 00:55:30: who's civilized and what they're used to and what they find to be acceptable. You can't simply
00:55:30 – 00:55:36: read them the Bible in hope that you're going to fix these problems. I hate to say that because I
00:55:36 – 00:55:41: know that that's it's something there's Christians we can't deal with. Well, I told them about Jesus
00:55:41 – 00:55:46: and they said they believe in Jesus, but they're still more violence and there's still more of all
00:55:46 – 00:55:54: these other crimes. It's not that God cannot turn a man's heart. It's that when you have someone
00:55:54 – 00:56:02: who's been so horrifically broken by 4,000 years of communion with demons that is literally baked
00:56:02 – 00:56:09: some of that additional evil into their genes, we today are being subjected to the consequences
00:56:09 – 00:56:14: of things that happened thousands of years ago. And when a Marxist will tell you, there's no
00:56:14 – 00:56:20: genetic basis for race. It doesn't even exist. There's no genetic basis for behavior. That's nonsense.
00:56:20 – 00:56:26: It's all learned. It's all cultural. If you believe that, then you're left defenseless because when
00:56:26 – 00:56:31: someone says, Hey, I'm going to ship a bunch of you gondons to live next door to you. If you don't
00:56:31 – 00:56:36: love them, you're not a Christian, Jesus would love them. Jesus would let them live in move in
00:56:36 – 00:56:43: next door. As Christians who are honest, we must deal with the facts. We must deal with scripture
00:56:43 – 00:56:49: and we must also deal with the human beings in front of us. And if the human being in front of
00:56:49 – 00:56:55: you is 120 times more likely to rape your sister or your wife or your mother or your children,
00:56:56 – 00:57:02: you must be cognizant of that. You can't ignore it. You can't pretend it's socioeconomic factors.
00:57:02 – 00:57:07: You have to deal with it. And you must deal with the fact that even though not all Africans are
00:57:07 – 00:57:14: rapists, there are so many more who rape and murder that it is a societal plague in our own lands.
00:57:14 – 00:57:21: And in every land where they go, one of the other homicide rate charts that we have is specifically
00:57:21 – 00:57:29: about this is just homicides per 100,000. It's broken down by country. And one of the beautiful
00:57:29 – 00:57:33: things about this chart is one of the only ones I've ever seen. It has the United States,
00:57:33 – 00:57:39: but it separates United States Africans from white United States. So you're separating the
00:57:39 – 00:57:46: European stock Americans from the African Americans. And what you find on this chart is the rate
00:57:46 – 00:57:53: of white homicide is comparable to some of the most boring places in Europe. White American
00:57:53 – 00:57:59: homicide rates are comparable to Belgium, while African American homicide rates are right between
00:57:59 – 00:58:04: equatorial Guinea and Nigeria. And Rwanda is just a bit further to the south. And when he
00:58:04 – 00:58:10: at Botswana, just a little bit better than African Americans. That's the correlation we're talking
00:58:10 – 00:58:17: about. Wherever an African is on the planet, he's going to have African problems. That is not to
00:58:17 – 00:58:24: say that they must be punished or they must be treated unjustly or they must be called names.
00:58:24 – 00:58:29: It is to say that when you're dealing with a population of Africans, not an individual, maybe the
00:58:29 – 00:58:33: guy that you know, your black friend is the best but guy in the world, we're not talking about an
00:58:33 – 00:58:37: individual. We're talking about a group and that's permissible for Christians to do.
00:58:38 – 00:58:44: When the Holy Spirit said that all Koreans are liars, he wasn't lying. He wasn't being racist.
00:58:44 – 00:58:50: The Holy Spirit was telling the truth by generalizing about a group of people. It is wisdom to do so.
00:58:51 – 00:58:56: And it is not a full to say, look, this group of people is going to behave in a certain way. Let's
00:58:56 – 00:59:03: deal with them as they are rather than making excuses for it. And rather than subjecting ourselves
00:59:03 – 00:59:09: to things that will harm us and harm our neighbors and our brothers. That is the moral argument for
00:59:09 – 00:59:13: even talking about this. You can reach your own conclusions. You can look at this data. We're not
00:59:13 – 00:59:18: trying to dictate to you policy prescriptions. We're not saying, look at all this data now we need
00:59:18 – 00:59:23: to do this. We have our opinions about that and maybe we'll share them at some point. But all I'm
00:59:23 – 00:59:30: imploring you to do today is to look at reality and not lie about it. Not say that, well, these
00:59:30 – 00:59:36: people are just like me because of whatever. They're not just like you and that's not hateful.
00:59:36 – 00:59:41: If someone is different than you, maybe it's to their advantage, maybe it's to your advantage.
00:59:42 – 00:59:46: It's not even about seeking advantage. It's just about looking at what you're dealing with.
00:59:46 – 00:59:51: When you're dealing with an African population anywhere on earth, you're dealing with
00:59:51 – 00:59:57: astronomically higher rates of violence, both physical and sexual. You're dealing with someone
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who's going to do things at his Christians. We call sin and as a society, we call crime.
01:00:02 – 01:00:08: And if we can't be honest about that, there's no possibility to even have sane
01:00:08 – 01:00:14: discussions about what we do as a government, what we do as a society, what we do civilly.
01:00:15 – 01:00:19: And as a church, what do you do? What do you do when you have a population that you know is more
01:00:19 – 01:00:24: likely to rape and murder your neighbors? Do they need more ministry? Yes. Do they need more
01:00:24 – 01:00:31: supervision? Yes. Do they need to be watched? Yes. Because for the same reason that you would watch
01:00:31 – 01:00:36: a tiger versus a goat, you need to watch someone who's more likely to do harm than someone who's
01:00:36 – 01:00:43: less likely to do harm. That's not hateful. How you do that can be hateful. It can be mean. It can
01:00:43 – 01:00:48: be malicious. We would never advocate that because it's not what we think. But we think that
01:00:48 – 01:00:54: protecting our own, our brothers according to the flesh, as Paul advocated in his own epistles.
01:00:55 – 01:01:00: That is something that a Christian has a duty to do. This is an optional. What you do with the
01:01:00 – 01:01:05: information should be informed by God. But it cannot be to ignore the facts and to ignore the
01:01:05 – 01:01:11: implications of these things. An additional proof of this disparate behavior with regard to the races
01:01:13 – 01:01:20: when it comes to sexual morals and behavior also plays out in STI data. And you can see this from
01:01:20 – 01:01:25: the CDC. I have the data from 2020 pulled up here. And the rate of syphilis, gonorrhea, and
01:01:25 – 01:01:31: chlamydia, the three of the big ones they monitor are astronomical in the black population compared
01:01:31 – 01:01:38: to the white population multiples of the rate in the white population amongst blacks. And I'll
01:01:38 – 01:01:45: add these into the show notes. But you see very real consequences in addition to the fact that you
01:01:46 – 01:01:51: have these crimes being committed, you see other follow on consequences because of course
01:01:53 – 01:02:00: STIs are a follow on from sexual sins. And that is spread by sexual sin. And it continues to get
01:02:00 – 01:02:06: worse as long as that sexual sin is not brought under control. And so we have these things
01:02:06 – 01:02:11: spreading like wildfire through our population. But if you put it on a map, you can see there is
01:02:11 – 01:02:17: a racial component. It is spreading much more frequently, much more deeply, much more widespread
01:02:17 – 01:02:25: in areas with African populations because they are behaving the same as they would behave in Africa
01:02:26 – 01:02:30: because there's no such thing as magic soil. You do not become
01:02:31 – 01:02:38: Japanese because you live in Japan for a while. There are Europeans who were born in Japan,
01:02:38 – 01:02:45: who speak Japanese, who lived for decades in Japan. They're still European. Because what you
01:02:45 – 01:02:52: are was created by God and God did that through genetics. And so you are the result of your
01:02:52 – 01:02:57: parents coming together. They're the result of their parents coming together, so on and so forth
01:02:57 – 01:03:04: back to Adam and Eve. You do not become something different simply because you moved somewhere
01:03:04 – 01:03:10: else for a while. And so you are going to see these populations behaving in certain ways
01:03:10 – 01:03:16: in accord with the fact that they are part of that population. Yes, you are going to have some
01:03:16 – 01:03:23: cultural, some societal influence, but it is primarily nature. The best way to think about it,
01:03:24 – 01:03:29: the difference between nature and nurture. And this will again come up multiple times in the IQ
01:03:29 – 01:03:37: episode. Nature sets the boundaries. So if you think of it as a spectrum, nature sets the
01:03:37 – 01:03:44: possibilities. Nurture determines where on that line you ultimately fall. And so in the case of
01:03:44 – 01:03:52: intelligence, you could be plus or minus a standard deviation, say, your nutrition, your upbringing,
01:03:52 – 01:03:57: your education, all of these things are going to determine where you fall within that range.
01:03:58 – 01:04:04: It is the same for these sorts of behaviors we're discussing here for criminality for self-control
01:04:04 – 01:04:10: because I have said self-control a number of times this episode because it is a very big contributor
01:04:10 – 01:04:19: to this. Children who have self-control will power are more likely to succeed in the future in
01:04:19 – 01:04:26: their lives. And you can test this very early on. You can set a piece of candy out and tell a child
01:04:26 – 01:04:30: and they've done these studies. We have the results. They're very solid. You tell the child,
01:04:32 – 01:04:39: if that candy is there, when I get back, I will give you two candies. White children and Asian
01:04:39 – 01:04:46: children, much depending on which part of Asia, but much more likely to wait, to wait for that second
01:04:46 – 01:04:51: piece of candy because obviously that is the rational choice if your goal is more candy, which
01:04:51 – 01:04:56: it is for children. But you can do that only if you have the willpower to do so.
01:04:58 – 01:05:04: Africans eat the piece of candy because it is a matter of genetics. It is a matter of whether or
01:05:04 – 01:05:09: not you have the foundation for the sort of willpower necessary to think into the future.
01:05:10 – 01:05:16: I would rather have the greater reward then than the lesser reward now. And that is what plays out
01:05:16 – 01:05:23: in the sex crimes and various other things because if you are of the mindset, part of this is time
01:05:23 – 01:05:29: preferences, what I'm talking about really, if you are of the mindset that well, I really want
01:05:29 – 01:05:33: this item, this piece of candy. So I'm going to go and steal it because I want it now.
01:05:34 – 01:05:40: There's no delayed gratification. There's no thinking through of well, I could work for it,
01:05:40 – 01:05:46: earn it, pay for it, and have it. No, it's I want it. So I'm going to take it. And that's what happens
01:05:46 – 01:05:52: with rape. I want it. So I'm going to take it. That is why you get these crimes.
01:05:54 – 01:06:00: And so we have to deal with the fact that we have populations in our countries now who think
01:06:00 – 01:06:06: like this, who behave like this, you have to address the issues as you find them, not as you would
01:06:06 – 01:06:13: prefer they could be or were. We aren't dealing in an ideal world. That's not what happens
01:06:13 – 01:06:19: in reality. In the kingdom of the left hand of Christ, we are dealing with reality.
01:06:20 – 01:06:27: And we have to deal with it as we find it. Certain populations are prone to certain behaviors.
01:06:28 – 01:06:34: And so it is incumbent on the state to react in a certain way. It is incumbent on Christians
01:06:34 – 01:06:41: to recognize these things and to behave in a certain way. You may have to do things to protect your
01:06:41 – 01:06:45: female family members more depending on where you live, depending on what they're doing in their
01:06:45 – 01:06:51: daily lives. There are certain steps you will have to take because it is your duty to protect those
01:06:51 – 01:06:57: entrusted to your care. It may be that you will support or oppose certain political policies
01:06:58 – 01:07:02: because they have a likelihood of harming your neighbor or helping your neighbor.
01:07:03 – 01:07:08: These are moral questions. These are not matters of indifference. These are real questions
01:07:08 – 01:07:15: that Christians have to answer in a Christian way. And the first step in doing that is to recognize
01:07:15 – 01:07:22: that they exist. Then you look at the data, then you can make a decision. One of the ironies of
01:07:22 – 01:07:31: the situation is that as Marxism advances in our society and gains complete control over how
01:07:31 – 01:07:37: people speak and think, you're beginning to see more innocuous versions of what we're saying,
01:07:37 – 01:07:42: being set out loud in headlines that we typically will just scoff at as being insane.
01:07:44 – 01:07:52: I saw recently that there was a cheating scandal. I think one of the United States military
01:07:52 – 01:07:59: academies and the accusation that came as a result of the cheating scandal was that anti-cheating rules
01:07:59 – 01:08:06: are racist because as they have increased the so-called diversity quotas to lower the standards of
01:08:06 – 01:08:12: who may be let into our elite institutions for the military, more and more non-whites are entering
01:08:12 – 01:08:17: those places where they were not academically qualified, but they are statistically qualified in
01:08:17 – 01:08:24: order to meet quotas. Those population groups in turn cheat at such significantly higher rates
01:08:25 – 01:08:32: that it creates huge scandals. And then the headline is saying that cheating is racist.
01:08:33 – 01:08:37: And like I said, we laugh at that when we hear it and we think, well, that's just absurd.
01:08:37 – 01:08:41: I think that they're telling the truth, not about the accusation of racism.
01:08:42 – 01:08:48: They're telling the truth about the fact that at some point we must admit that it's unreasonable
01:08:48 – 01:08:56: to expect someone who's not white to behave in ways that we consider normal. And I think that's
01:08:56 – 01:09:02: the hurdle that a lot of us have to get over is what we think of as normal is rooted in our own
01:09:02 – 01:09:08: experience. And I don't just mean your personal lived experience. I mean, everything that you can
01:09:08 – 01:09:14: comprehend is a human being. When I gave that horrible description earlier of what happens with
01:09:14 – 01:09:20: in Africa, with Africans behaving against their own family members, that's unthinkable to you.
01:09:20 – 01:09:26: Anyone who's listening to my voice right now would never even occur to you to do anything like
01:09:26 – 01:09:29: that. You can't comprehend it. And yet for them, it's completely normal.
01:09:30 – 01:09:36: So when there's a massive cheating scandal in one of the major universities, and it turns out
01:09:36 – 01:09:42: that all the cheaters are black, the Marxists will say, well, saying the cheating is wrong is racist.
01:09:42 – 01:09:49: And everyone else will just make excuses for this woke stupidity. I think that we should, as
01:09:49 – 01:09:53: Christians, look at the question, which we are raising. And we obviously have our answer, but
01:09:53 – 01:09:57: you may not accept our answer. You should at least ask the question of yourself.
01:09:58 – 01:10:02: Why is it that an African-American in one of the
01:10:02 – 01:10:09: military academies would feel free to cheat and think that was okay? Why is it so widespread that
01:10:09 – 01:10:16: it's the norm there? And it's not just cheating. You have things like timeliness is racist,
01:10:16 – 01:10:21: to say that someone should show up on time or that certain things should happen at certain times.
01:10:21 – 01:10:26: You've probably seen headlines where that is declared to be racist. And we just laugh at it.
01:10:26 – 01:10:32: You're like, well, like, Cory and I start recording this at 2.30 every day unless something goes wrong,
01:10:32 – 01:10:39: just sort of automatically fell into that pattern. For us, there's no concept of race being involved
01:10:39 – 01:10:43: in timeliness. It's just how we are. It's precision and its predictability. And it's something
01:10:43 – 01:10:47: that we appreciate. And it's something that our society has built around.
01:10:50 – 01:10:56: We'll talk about this more in the IQ episode, but the notion of time doesn't really exist for
01:10:56 – 01:11:02: Africans in the same way, if at all. So when you hear you see a headline that says timeliness is
01:11:02 – 01:11:11: racist, they're not wrong. Again, about the accusation of committing some sin, which we'll do a
01:11:11 – 01:11:16: racism episode because that's nonsense. But the idea that's something wrong with expecting a
01:11:16 – 01:11:23: black person to show up on time, what they're saying the quiet part out loud there. They're saying
01:11:23 – 01:11:28: that black people can't understand why showing up on time would even be a thing. The thing doesn't
01:11:28 – 01:11:32: begin until they show up. So why does it matter when they show up? They were doing something else.
01:11:32 – 01:11:38: And now they're doing this. And these differences, once you strip away the cultural and all the other
01:11:38 – 01:11:45: baggage, the only explanations that are left are genetic and they're genetic writ large at the
01:11:45 – 01:11:51: racial level, at the major category level. There are lots of different ethnicities within Africa
01:11:51 – 01:11:57: that all have variations on similar themes. There are some populations that have much higher IQs
01:11:57 – 01:12:02: than others, but they're all at least a standard deviation below the white IQ in the United States.
01:12:02 – 01:12:09: There's a reason for that. And it's not nutrition. And it's not that they don't have good schools.
01:12:09 – 01:12:17: When we talked about schooling a few times, if someone is fundamentally not capable of living up
01:12:17 – 01:12:23: to your standards, at what point do you as a Christian realize that it's cruel to try to make
01:12:23 – 01:12:27: someone live up to your standards? Now, when the Marxists say that, they're saying we need to
01:12:27 – 01:12:33: lower standards. We're not saying that at all. We're saying that the idea of holding someone accountable
01:12:33 – 01:12:40: to a standard of morality and of behavior to which they are constitutionally incapable of living
01:12:40 – 01:12:46: up to it, you have to look at that seriously and you have to ask some hard questions that haven't
01:12:46 – 01:12:51: been asked in a long time because if they can't do it, and it's not a question of teaching, if they
01:12:51 – 01:12:58: absolutely cannot do it because of how they were born, because of the race that they were born,
01:12:58 – 01:13:01: that's the proposition that we're making. And some of you're going to reject it outright and
01:13:01 – 01:13:07: find it hateful. Others, when you look at the data, you're going to have a hard time disagreeing
01:13:07 – 01:13:13: with us. But if we're right, if we're telling the truth about genetic variations in behavior,
01:13:13 – 01:13:22: in attitudes, and frankly in morality, as a society and as a church, those differences must be a
01:13:22 – 01:13:27: factor in how we deal with these people groups. We can't treat them like they're just like us.
01:13:27 – 01:13:33: If they're going to behave in ways that are so alien that we can't even wrap our minds around it.
01:13:33 – 01:13:39: And so what do we do? What have we done? Been doing for the past few generations? We've been
01:13:39 – 01:13:44: pretending that the differences don't exist. And then as there's been more and more integration,
01:13:44 – 01:13:50: and we've been told that segregation was evil and integration is good. And then we see that the
01:13:50 – 01:13:55: effects of integration are greater degrees of criminality and injury and harm.
01:13:57 – 01:14:03: The only moral question that can come from that is what do we do now? If you admit that race is
01:14:03 – 01:14:09: biological and that there are certain behaviors and certain propensities that are biological,
01:14:09 – 01:14:16: then looking at someone and being able to determine with a certain degree of probability that they're
01:14:16 – 01:14:22: going, that they belong to a group that does something. You can't tell by looking at an individual
01:14:22 – 01:14:25: what they're going to do, but you can tell by looking at them that they belong to a group that's
01:14:25 – 01:14:32: more like to do this thing. So if that group is deadly to your own group, you need to acknowledge
01:14:32 – 01:14:37: first that there are two groups, and then one is more dangerous than the other. And two, that there
01:14:37 – 01:14:43: are societal and legal implications to that. And simply saying one race, the human race, and Jesus
01:14:43 – 01:14:51: died for us all, doesn't fix the real danger in the real harm that's happening in the real world
01:14:51 – 01:14:57: by us ignoring these differences. And we do already recognize some of this in our legal system.
01:14:57 – 01:15:02: Anyone with any sort of legal training is going to immediately recognize, well, of course,
01:15:02 – 01:15:07: we have different standards for different things. There are the different standards of proof,
01:15:07 – 01:15:12: certain things have to be proved to a higher degree. Typically, criminal matters are a higher degree
01:15:12 – 01:15:19: than civil matters. Civil matters are usually 51%. It's just more likely than not. The murder is not
01:15:19 – 01:15:23: actually the highest one. Many people will answer that one wrong. They think murder will have to be
01:15:23 – 01:15:29: the highest proof. It's not the intent for murder is malice of fourth thought, which there's
01:15:29 – 01:15:32: no point in getting into the technicalities of that. But the highest one is specific intent,
01:15:32 – 01:15:37: which is you had the intent to do the thing you did and cause the outcome you caused.
01:15:38 – 01:15:45: But we also have defenses for capacity. If you were intoxicated at the time, that makes
01:15:45 – 01:15:50: excuse you to some degree. If you were intoxicated unwillingly, that makes excuse you to a very
01:15:50 – 01:15:55: large degree, perhaps entirely. If someone drugged you, you're typically not responsible for whatever
01:15:55 – 01:16:00: you did while drugged. Insofar as the drug was responsible for your behavior, of course.
01:16:01 – 01:16:07: But we also have capacity defenses. If you are mentally retarded in the technical sense of the
01:16:07 – 01:16:11: term, not the derogatory, the pejorative sense, the technical sense. If you are mentally retarded,
01:16:12 – 01:16:17: you are held to a different standard because you probably don't understand the duties
01:16:18 – 01:16:25: that everyone else knows you have in a certain situation. And so it would not be morally appropriate
01:16:25 – 01:16:30: to hold someone to this higher standard because you are saying you should have known to someone
01:16:30 – 01:16:37: who entirely lacks the capacity to do that. You can't hold someone to a duty to do something
01:16:37 – 01:16:46: that is impossible. That's immoral. Now, of course, I'm not making a theological point there,
01:16:46 – 01:16:51: so for anyone who is thinking that God holding us to the standard of perfection is wrong. No,
01:16:51 – 01:16:57: actually, it's not because Adam could have. We inherit his original sin, which is another part
01:16:57 – 01:17:01: that is theologically important for this. There were those who say, how is it fair to hold someone
01:17:01 – 01:17:06: responsible for effectively the sins of the parents? Well, original sin is kind of a core of our
01:17:06 – 01:17:12: religion. So if you have a problem with what we're saying about the consequences for future generations
01:17:12 – 01:17:18: of the behavior of past generations, then you should probably go back and review original sin
01:17:18 – 01:17:23: and how that works in the Christian religion. You've missed something. But when it comes to issues
01:17:23 – 01:17:30: of capacity, we know that certain groups of people have to be held to a different standard. No,
01:17:30 – 01:17:35: we don't permit them to cause crimes. We don't permit them to do things that are illegal, cause harm,
01:17:35 – 01:17:42: etc. But we recognize that you have to take into account the abilities they bring to the table,
01:17:42 – 01:17:46: the capacity they have to understand their duties, the things they should and should not do.
01:17:48 – 01:17:55: And so you do treat them differently. Part of that historically has been treating them differently
01:17:55 – 01:18:01: at the outset. So preventing the problem from occurring instead of addressing it once it occurs.
01:18:03 – 01:18:09: To go back to the issue of rape, what is going to be better for a woman who is raped if you had
01:18:09 – 01:18:13: prevented the rape or if you punished the rapist? I don't think that's a very hard
01:18:14 – 01:18:19: call to make. I think most people can probably make that one. The same for someone who is
01:18:19 – 01:18:25: severely mentally disabled, what's better? Carefully monitoring that person and controlling what he
01:18:25 – 01:18:31: does or letting him run free and then injuring himself or others? Well, of course you want to
01:18:31 – 01:18:36: prevent him from injuring himself or others. And so there are certain things you have to do in
01:18:36 – 01:18:43: society to take into account the abilities of different groups of people and of different individuals
01:18:43 – 01:18:50: in society. We have not been doing that for decades now. We closed the Asala, for instance. We
01:18:50 – 01:18:56: basically let the mentally unwell roam the streets now. Usually this causes minor property damage
01:18:56 – 01:19:03: and significant damage to those individuals themselves. Many of them wind up dying of overdoses in
01:19:03 – 01:19:09: the streets. That's a very real moral problem. That is something we are not addressing as a society.
01:19:10 – 01:19:17: This is akin to that because you are dealing with something that has a biological basis in the
01:19:17 – 01:19:22: individual and in groups of individuals. And you have to account for that in how you run your
01:19:22 – 01:19:28: society because it is a moral question. If you ignore it, what you are doing is immoral. Ignoring
01:19:28 – 01:19:37: it is the actual sin here. Next week's episode we are going to focus specifically on scripture.
01:19:37 – 01:19:42: We are going to focus on the arguments that are used from scripture against many of the things
01:19:42 – 01:19:48: that we have said. Again, not directly addressing the facts because facts are truth and truth is
01:19:48 – 01:19:55: from God. So you can't use scripture against truth. But there are structural arguments that are
01:19:55 – 01:20:00: often posed that just ignore everything we have said for the past two weeks and try to focus on
01:20:00 – 01:20:05: other things. So we want to address those explicitly because we are Christians. We are Lutherans.
01:20:05 – 01:20:11: It is a scripture that is more important than what your lying eyes tell you. What we are trying to
01:20:11 – 01:20:15: say is that your lying eyes aren't actually lying to you in this case. You can believe God and you can
01:20:15 – 01:20:20: believe statistics. And if you are looking at the right ones, you are going to reach a godly
01:20:21 – 01:20:25: conclusion. So we are going to move on from the statistical stuff for the next week and we are
01:20:25 – 01:20:31: going to specifically focus on what does this have to do with us in the church because really that's
01:20:31 – 01:20:36: the fundamental question that I think most of us have in mind. If you assume for the sake of argument
01:20:36 – 01:20:41: that we have told the truth for the past two weeks, where do we go from here? How do we make sure
01:20:41 – 01:20:47: that we are dealing with people in a Christian way that also will in a Christian way, in a way
01:20:47 – 01:20:54: that acknowledges scripture, in a way that acknowledges duty to brother and to neighbor and all the
01:20:54 – 01:21:00: various vocational aspects that are fundamental to the Christian life. So next week's episode will
01:21:00 – 01:21:06: focus on that. And in the following week, we are going to do one last statistical episode that
01:21:06 – 01:21:12: is going to very specifically focus on IQ. It is one we have teased for a while. IQ is such a big part
01:21:12 – 01:21:19: of this conversation that it needs to be its own episode. So we wanted to segregate that by itself
01:21:19 – 01:21:24: so that it can stand alone. That's going to be in two parts, first talking about kind of the higher
01:21:24 – 01:21:30: end and what we see in Western society. And then what the implications are for those who have
01:21:30 – 01:21:37: such diminished capacity, as Corey just mentioned, criminally, if the law says that someone is too
01:21:37 – 01:21:43: retarded to be held accountable for their behavior. And we'll get into some of the reasons why that's
01:21:43 – 01:21:50: not. It may be morally questionable, but it's legally there's a case to be made there. What do we
01:21:50 – 01:21:54: do with Christians with people who cannot understand cause and effect with people who cannot
01:21:54 – 01:22:01: understand hypotheticals? How do you cataclyce someone who can't understand later versus now?
01:22:01 – 01:22:05: These are very real and fundamental questions. And it's part why we're talking about race.
01:22:05 – 01:22:12: This is not about hating people and excluding. It's about saying these people exist. God
01:22:12 – 01:22:16: died for them. Jesus cried, paid for all of their sins on the cross just like he paid for ours.
01:22:17 – 01:22:22: Whether or not someone has more sins than others, Jesus paid for 100% of them. We're not talking
01:22:22 – 01:22:28: about who's better. We're talking about what are the needs in this life for different groups of
01:22:28 – 01:22:33: people because the needs are not the same. The way you would explain the gospel to a man like
01:22:33 – 01:22:38: Coria myself if we were not Christian is very different than the way you would explain to someone
01:22:38 – 01:22:43: who had the mental capacity of a five year old. That should be obvious, but when we
01:22:44 – 01:22:49: realize how it falls into race, it becomes a gospel issue. And that's ultimately why we're talking
01:22:49 – 01:22:55: about this. We're talking about how we as Christians can behave in a Christian way with people who
01:22:55 – 01:23:02: have capacities and needs and proclivities that are different from our own. We're not trying to
01:23:02 – 01:23:08: be unfair to these people or mistreat them. We're saying, given the reality that we face,
01:23:09 – 01:23:13: what is the most Christian path forward for all of us? And that is a conversation that will be
01:23:13 – 01:23:17: rooted next week in scripture. And then we're ultimately going to end up dealing with
01:23:18 – 01:23:23: how do you spread the gospel to people who have fundamentally different mental understanding
01:23:23 – 01:23:28: and capability in their own? So I hope that you'll stick with us for all this because this is
01:23:28 – 01:23:32: again, it's all a part of the piece. It began with Christian nationalism episode. It continued
01:23:32 – 01:23:38: in the election episode and then these multiple episodes are going to hopefully wrap it all up.
01:23:38 – 01:23:43: I hope that you find some value in this, even if it upsets you and even if you're not sure about
01:23:43 – 01:23:49: some of the things we're saying. We're approaching this in good faith and we're doing it in complete
01:23:49 – 01:23:56: honesty. And we're doing it frankly because people who talk this way will be destroyed in the world.
01:23:56 – 01:24:00: If you agreed with what we said last week, be careful about who you whom you tell that to because
01:24:01 – 01:24:06: you could get fired for saying the things we said last week and you could certainly get fired
01:24:06 – 01:24:10: for the things we said this week. And on the IQ episode, you'll never get hired again if you
01:24:10 – 01:24:16: agree with any of what we say. Now, either we're horrible racist, hateful liars or we're telling you
01:24:16 – 01:24:22: something that most people are afraid of. You can figure that out for yourselves, but I appreciate
01:24:22 – 01:24:27: those who are sticking with us and listening to these things. And at least asking the questions
01:24:27 – 01:24:32: yourself, what do I do with this information? As I said at the, at the outside of this episode,
01:24:32 – 01:24:36: some people are like, well, I don't see the point. Hopefully we're starting to make the point.
01:24:36 – 01:24:41: This stuff about race and about biological differences isn't about picking on people or
01:24:41 – 01:24:46: pointing at people and calling names. It's about saying, as a Christian, what do I do in these
01:24:46 – 01:24:53: circumstances when someone looks similar to me, but is going to behave and have a capacity for
01:24:53 – 01:24:58: very different things than I have to the point that I can't understand them. What do I do? What does
01:24:58 – 01:25:04: God want me to do? What does Scripture say? And how can I proceed in good conscience in an accord
01:25:04 – 01:25:10: with the vocations that God has given me where I live? Just to emphasize that, nothing that we are
01:25:10 – 01:25:18: doing is done out of malice. Everything we are doing on this podcast is done in the interest of
01:25:18 – 01:25:24: defending Scripture when they come up the confessions and the creation as the creator made it,
01:25:25 – 01:25:32: which is to say we are defending the Christian faith. We are doing it with regard to certain subjects
01:25:32 – 01:25:35: that have fallen out of favor. These aren't things that would have been out of place, say,
01:25:36 – 01:25:42: 100, 200, 300, any number of years ago, except for the last maybe 60 or 70.
01:25:44 – 01:25:48: We are dealing with issues that are fundamental to reality, to the faith.
01:25:49 – 01:25:55: And that's why we're addressing them because it is important for Christians to get these things
01:25:55 – 01:26:03: right. Now, as was mentioned, if you bring these up in your place of work, you may be fired.
01:26:03 – 01:26:06: If you bring them up in your church, you may be disciplined.
01:26:08 – 01:26:11: But there will be times when you can discuss these with like-minded men,
01:26:12 – 01:26:16: with those who are actually still open to the truth because they do exist. We know that from
01:26:17 – 01:26:22: we can see how many listens to this podcast and we will discuss those numbers in some point in the
01:26:22 – 01:26:29: future. But it is vitally important that Christians learn about the reality of the world and what
01:26:29 – 01:26:34: Scripture actually says. Not what the world tells you Scripture says, not what Marxists tell you
01:26:34 – 01:26:42: about the world, but the world as it is and Scripture as God intends for you to read it as God
01:26:42 – 01:26:48: wrote it. That's why we're doing this. None of it is out of malice. None of it is out of ill will.
01:26:48 – 01:26:55: It is only with the best of intentions because as Christians, our first duty is to God and God
01:26:55 – 01:26:58: is goodness, beauty, and truth.