Transcript: Episode 0034

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Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast. I am Corey J. Mahler, and I'm still woe. On today's Stone

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Choir we're going to begin the first of what will be at least a three-part series on the

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Jews. As I said last week towards the end of the episode, in the next few weeks we're

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going to be getting into some stuff that will probably cross some red lines for some people,

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probably make some of you uncomfortable. The reason that we're tackling it is that that's a

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problem. The fact that someone simply saying the Jews may have made you squirm, maybe you turned

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down the volume a little bit, that's a big deal because that came from somewhere. And as Christians,

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we can't talk about our own religion without talking about the Jews. There's no way to talk

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about the history of the faith without talking about these people. The ethnicity, the religious

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beliefs, the history are all relevant to us today, both in time and in the current year. And so the

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fact that there's this sort of inherent recoiling that I think has been put in many of our hearts to

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even hear the word, you sort of flinch and think something bad is going to happen. I don't want

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to be here anymore. That's not an adult response, that that's not something that should be the case.

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And so today and over the next couple of weeks, we're going to be going through the history of

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the Jews in terms of scripture, in terms of post-scriptural history and then modern history,

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things that some of the things have happened in living memory. This first episode is going to be

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entirely focused around scripture. So we're going to begin in the garden and we're going to take it

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all the way through the end. And then, obviously, the Bible basically ends with some prophecies and

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the destruction of the temple. We're going to be talking about a few post-temple destruction

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events that are relevant to some of the points we're going to make today. But for the most part,

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this will be ending right around the second century. The episode is going to be in three

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distinct parts. They'll sort of flow into each other because we're going to do this in chronological

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order. The first part, the first third, will be basically the timeline of, you know, from Adam

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through Noah to Abraham through Moses to Jesus. When did the Jews appear? What did they do?

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How did they act? What was promised to them? What was commanded to them? How did they respond to all

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those things? That basically takes us to roughly the end of the Old Testament, which is also called

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the inter-testamental period. There are some things that happened in that timeframe from the

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conquering of the Northern Kingdom through the birth of Christ that I think some Christians who

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know a little bit know some bits and pieces. But I think we're going to put some of those details

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together in a way that will actually make sense for why we talk about things like, for example,

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the Septuagint. Why is there a Greek Old Testament? That's relevant. So the second part is going to

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be the fact that many of you would probably recognize the Hebrew language. If you saw it written,

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you see a picture, you know, yes, Hebrew. What you don't know is that that's not Hebrew. That is,

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it's an Aramaic script, and it's a language that is disconnected from the original language

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of the Israelites. And so we're going to talk about what happened in that time period and why

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it's relevant today that we have these confusions about what happened in the past.

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Because some of the claims that we're trying to disabuse in this episode are that

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when someone today says, I am a Jew and I speak Hebrew and I live in Israel,

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those are all words from the Bible. And those are therefore borrowing whatever affections we

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have as Christians for our connection to those words in the Bible. And the reason for going

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over some of the history is that there is a not only a profound discontinuity between

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what we have and what we see and what we hear today and what was happening thousands of years ago,

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but the discontinuity is the result of God's judgment against those people. And that's

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what makes it a profoundly important religious matter. This is a matter of the faith when God

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pronounces judgment upon people and they're scattered and destroyed. Every nation is to

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take that as a warning whenever there's any sort of calamity that befalls someone that should be

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taken as a warning that this is God's judgment, they did something bad, whatever it was, I should

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pay attention, I should not do the bad thing that they did. So it's important to learn from everything

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in scripture when God visits his wrath, let's make sure that doesn't happen to us too. And that

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might involve not listening to the people to whom God's wrath was poured out by the bucket load.

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So the second part will be the Interpretational Period in the fiction of the Hebrew language.

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And third part is going to specifically deal with the time of Christ in the New Testament

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as he was preaching, as he was going around in Judea and Samaria. What did he encounter and

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how did the Jews treat him? One of the overarching themes of all three of these sections is that

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we're going to be saying many things that your pastors probably are afraid to say. And in some

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cases your pastors don't know. I've had pastors who literally didn't know that Jesus wasn't speaking

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Hebrew every day. Nobody spoke Hebrew every day. It was a dead language. It was like Latin is dead

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today. It still existed in tiny corners, but it wasn't a going concern at all. That's relevant.

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And in fact, the pastors don't know is a big deal. And in particular, pastors are terrified of

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telling people the Jews killed God. Scripture makes that so clear that no one could possibly

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reach any other conclusion other than by listening to voices that do not come from Scripture.

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So last third of this is going to go through many verses that make it abundantly clear that

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the Pharisees were the leaders. The Jews were the people. The angry crowd that was continuously

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chasing Jesus around hundreds of miles are running in sandals, continuously trying to kill him.

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It wasn't the Pharisees. It was the Jews. Not all of them. There were some Jews who were faithful.

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His followers were Jews. The disciples were Jews. So again, the nax all things comes into play.

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Not all acts are like that. There were Jews in that day who believed the promise. Mary believed

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the promise of the Christ. And so when the angel came to her and said that she would be the vessel

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for that promise, she wasn't confused. She knew exactly what the angel was talking about. She

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couldn't believe it was going to be her, but she received it in faith because she was a faithful

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Christian. She was a Christian who was a Jew. And we've talked about that in the past that the

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belief in the promise from the garden is what makes one a Christian. And so we're going to end

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as we're talking about, particularly from acts and from Romans where Scripture discusses who are

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the true children of Abraham. Because that's one of the fundamental questions. Unfortunately today

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it's a political question somehow. That'll be a few trips. Are we talking about how children of

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Abraham, how could that possibly be a political live issue in the 21st century? That's why saying

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the Jews makes people nervous. Because something that should be a scriptural historical term and

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concept has political ramifications today. So today's episode is Scripture. Future episodes will

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deal with history and some politics. But we have to lay the foundation first for the subject in

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what God reveals in Scripture. So I think we'll begin at the very beginning just with

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who is a Jew in the Old Testament? I think one of the lazy things that we do is to just kind of

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assume that everybody in the Old Testament is a Jew. That's the Jewish book. And then the New

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Testament book is a Christian book. And there were some Jews who became Christians, but that was

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that transition period. And then post-New Testament, everybody's Christian. Or you're a Jew, but you

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went off in the other direction. But the key element is that the misconception that everyone

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in the Old Testament is a Jew opens the door to all sorts of errors downstream. We're not going

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to get to those errors today. We're just going to make the case that Jews came into the timeline

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by God's design at a certain time for a certain purpose. And prior to that, there were no Jews.

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Adam was not a Jew. I think one of the tricky things about that is that Adam is a Hebrew word.

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And so we're just sort of intellectually lazy. And we think, well, if the name was Hebrew,

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that must make him a Jew, right? They're Adam's today who are Jews. Many are not because it's

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the oldest name we have. When you start making these small errors, they don't seem to have any

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consequence at the moment, but they will accumulate over time. And that's the recurring theme on

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Stone Choir. These small errors are doors that are being opened to make big errors later.

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So as we go through this, we're going to pick seemingly small things, but they're all going

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to point in the same direction to say, this man was a Jew. This man was not a Jew. Here's what the

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Jews were doing and why all those things matter. When you mention that the name is in Hebrew,

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it brings to mind a favorite argument that I've seen primarily from leftists, Marxists,

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and others like that. But you'll see it on posters and things that rally sometimes for them,

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because they like to appeal to Scripture, even though they don't believe in it. That should

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bring a certain meme to mind for certain people. But they'll argue there are no white people in

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Scripture, which of course just betrays a staggering ignorance of Scripture, because Japheth is the

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father of all of Europe. Obviously, then he was white. There were Romans in Scripture,

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there are Greeks in Scripture. It's a complete nonsense argument. It just betrays

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stunning ignorance of Scripture. And that's what we're dealing with when it comes to pastors and

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many others who will say, well, no, all these people, they were Jews. Adam was not a Jew.

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Noah was not a Jew. Abraham was not a Jew. You don't have any Jews in Scripture

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until you get to Judah, because that is how you derive the term Jew is from the tribe of Judah.

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That's where that comes from and from Judean. So the modern term in English anyway,

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enters basically through Latin, the term for the people living in Palestine,

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as the Romans renamed it, who were living in Palestine at the time that Rome controlled the area.

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And it wasn't even a term that they used for themselves. They didn't call themselves Jews.

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It was just shorthand because the Northern Kingdom had been destroyed. You had these people in the

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South in Judah, so they got called Jews by their conquerors. It wasn't half, it was a slur, but

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it was just, it was a term applied to a group of people that was alien to the people naming them.

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They didn't care, like, oh, yeah, those are the Jews down there in Judea.

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Exactly. And there are some who will argue that the etymology for Hebrew, which is the

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term they would have used before that, and still, of course, do use for themselves and for their

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language, which will get into the language more. That's derived either from Eber, which can have,

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of course, that initial H sound in the Greek, Hebrew, or it is derived from an older term from,

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I can't remember which language it was now. I think it was related to a handful of languages

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in the area, so it's not necessarily just one, but it means across the river, or one who lives

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across the river. And so it was just a term of place, essentially, also a person's name,

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obviously, Eber being the son of Shullah, son of Arpakshad, son of Shem, Shem being the ultimate

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father after Noah, of course, after Adam, after Noah, of the line from which Christ came.

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And so the people who would become known as Jews, at least a part of them would become

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known as Jews, because as was said, the northern kingdom was destroyed. The Assyrian captivity

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of the northern kingdom took those 10 tribes, and yes, there's some fuzz there, some gray area when

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it comes to the numbering of the tribes, how many tribes exactly were in the south, how many were

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in the north, because you have 10 in the north, but then you have Judah, Benjamin, and Levi in the

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south. That aside, the Assyrian captivity is what took the northern kingdom and destroyed it.

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The people of the northern kingdom were destroyed, because how the Assyrians destroyed a conquered

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people was they would take some of those out of the conquered territory, move them elsewhere in their

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empire, and then take people from elsewhere in the empire and move them into the conquered territory.

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So in other words, what they did was they used interbreeding, interracial relationships as a

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means of destruction of a nation. And that's exactly what they did to the northern kingdom.

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So the northern kingdom was completely and utterly destroyed, which of course,

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is the beginning of an argument against so-called Christian Zionism,

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and many other, well, heretical theologies that have sprung up more recently. You can't have a

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restoration of the 12 tribes, because 10 of them no longer exist.

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They were destroyed by the Assyrians, as opposed to the southern kingdom, the kingdom of Judah,

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which was taken into partial captivity by the Babylonians, but the Babylonians did not

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destroy their conquered peoples in the same way the Assyrians did. So the southern kingdom was

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not destroyed. That would become the Judeans. That would be the people who were living in the area

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when the Romans came and conquered them. Those are the people who would come to be called Jews.

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And so early on in Scripture, all of these men are not Jews. Jews don't exist in the earliest

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parts of Scripture. There are no Jews in Genesis, unless you're talking just about names, in which

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case, yes, you have obviously the genealogies. But if your pastor is telling you that Abraham was a

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Jew, your pastor is just wrong. He needs to go back and read Scripture.

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The first occurrence in both the Septuagint and the Masoretic text for the Old Testament

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of the word Hebrew is in Genesis 39, when Potiphar's wife describes Joseph as the Hebrew slave.

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So that was several generations removed from Abraham. That's not Jew, but it's the first

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instance of Hebrew. There is one instance it's worth noting in Genesis 13, where when Abram

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has not yet received the name Abraham from God, the text, the Masoretic text, that is the Hebrew

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text, that is much newer, incidentally, than the Septuagint, even though it's technically written

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to Hebrew, and we'll get to that later. In Genesis 13, the Masoretic text does refer to,

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maybe it's Genesis 14, I think it's 1413, refers to Abram as the Hebrew. Interestingly,

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in the Septuagint, the word Hebrew does not appear. That word was added in the Hebrew text,

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which is notable, I think, because while we're not going to get into the disputation between

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the Masoretic text and the Septuagint, it is important to acknowledge that there are a few

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places where the Masoretic text is demonstrably corrupted. The most prominent example is

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the prophecy in Isaiah of the Virgin giving birth. That has changed in what we call the

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Hebrew Bible today to a young girl. Septuagint doesn't have that error, and if you remember

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from our genealogy episode, that's a particularly interesting one because we actually have evidence

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from post-Babel expansion of humanity in all different directions. People who were never

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part of any of this story had the story of a virgin birth of a God. That is something that is

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a widespread story, a myth, a legend that exists in far-flung places like Vietnam,

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well separated from any contact with anyone who would have known what was going on in the

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days of Abraham, or Isaiah for that matter, because Isaiah was fairly late. It's crucially

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important to note that we know from outside of Scripture that some notion of a virgin-born God

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was a prophecy that was given prior to Isaiah, and it was shared among believers,

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and then corrupted among unbelievers. We can know with absolute certainty as Christians that

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when the Hebrew Bible, the Masoretic text, that we are told to believe is older,

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says young girl instead of virgin, it's not correct. I think it's worth acknowledging that the word

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Hebrew does occur one time in Abrams day, but I just found this a couple hours ago. I haven't

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had a chance to really dig into it too much. Based on what I know of a couple of the other heirs,

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it's my assumption as I go digging into that, that that was probably added in the 2nd, 3rd,

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4th, 5th, 6th century AD. It was added well after by Jews who had been expelled from Jerusalem,

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who hated the Christians, and were beginning to concoct this story that Hebrews are eternal.

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Noah was Hebrew. Noah was a Jew. No, Abraham wasn't a Jew. It was his grandson who was named Israel

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by God. That's the other term that comes up that's very important. Basically, you have

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Jew, you have Hebrew, and you have Israel, or Israelite, all more or less used interchangeably at

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different places and different times. Sometimes they mean the same thing. Sometimes they don't.

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Sometimes they mean different things. When God wrestles with Jacob and then names him Israel,

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that's the very first time that that word was used. It was given to him by God as a new name,

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and that name was carried by his descendants. That's very important. It's from God. No Christian

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would ever besmirch that in the slightest, but as we'll get to it in the last part,

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what does that mean? What does it mean to be a child of Abraham, to be a child of the covenant?

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When we get into some of the later texts in the New Testament, pointing back to the Old Testament,

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it makes it very clear, it means those who have faith, that it is not a genetic lineage,

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it is a lineage of faith. As we discussed in the election episode, which is very much

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a part of this episode, please go back and listen to that. If you haven't listened to it in the

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last couple of months, it is key to understanding this episode, because one of the other terms

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that gets thrown around a lot is chosen. You hear of the Jews called God's chosen people.

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It's a word that God uses. God says, I chose these people. Many times that's how it's referred to,

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the Israelites are referred to. Chosen and elect are synonyms. This is something that we've

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completely lost sight of today. When God says, I chose you, that's literally saying, I elected you.

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In the election episode, we explain in detail that election is not a new doctrine that Calvin

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came up with. Most people think that election or predestination, that's that Calvinist stuff.

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In Lutherans, we call what Calvinists hold double predestination, where God elected some to be saved

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and God elected others to be damned. We believe that Scripture doesn't say that. Scripture says

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that God elected some to be saved, and that God desires that all men be saved, and that God

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sacrificed on the cross was for all men. Those men who are damned are damned of their own volition.

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They choose to remain evil. They reject God. Those who are elect do not reject God.

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We spent a couple hours dealing with, how does that make sense? Because it sounds irrational.

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Frankly, it is irrational. You can't make a reasonable case for predestination that doesn't

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sound crazy. We do it there as best we can. It makes sense if you believe Scripture. What you

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can't believe is your own reason. The important thing to carry away is that whenever you hear

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someone saying, particularly in the Old Testament, these people were the chosen people of God,

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they were elect. That applied not only to the lineal descendants of Abraham, because remember

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Jonah, who was a Jewish prophet, was sent by God to go to Nineveh, which was one of the greatest of

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the Gentile cities. It was one of the largest cities on the planet at the time. Jonah wouldn't go

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because he knew they would believe and they would repent and they would become children of God.

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God said, the people of Nineveh are elect. Go to them and proclaim my word. Jonah was like,

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no, if I go, they'll believe me and they'll repent. I don't want that because they're not Jews.

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The whole story of Jonah is about him refusing to go to people who weren't Jews because

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he didn't want to give them the gospel. God elected them. Jonah disobeyed. God won because

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that's how election works. God doesn't lose. He doesn't lose any of us. These terms like

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Jew, chosen, Israelite, Hebrew, it's important to understand which term you're using and why

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and where it's coming from etymologically because sometimes they do serve different purposes.

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And for those who are maybe not particularly familiar with these source texts, the Masoretic

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text is from roughly the earliest, would be the 6th century, and that's AD, not BC, notably.

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It wasn't completed until the 9th or the 10th century. That is, say, as opposed to the Septuagint,

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which is from, I think the earliest copies we have are the 3rd century BC.

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So there's a significant difference in age between these two manuscript sources.

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Notably, of course, the Masoretic text also has the so-called Star of David all over it.

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We see that in many of the copies of things that we have related to that line of sources.

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We'll get into that perhaps, perhaps not in this episode, but soon enough.

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That'll be for the next episode.

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That's what I figured. That symbol does date back before that. I think the earliest

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instance of that in a religious context is the 3rd or the 4th century, again AD, not BC, but at any

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rate. So it is arguably the more reliable text is the Greek text, and that is the text the church

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has used for a very long time until modern translation started using the Masoretic.

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I think it's important. We're not going to get into textual criticism or anything today, but

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when people are hearing these things, one of the most common responses internally in someone's

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mind will probably be to have their confidence undermined and, well, is my Bible really the

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word of God? I think that the more manuscripts we get access to, the more clear it is how much

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God has preserved his word through the millennia. There's very few differences between the Masoretic

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text and the Septuagint in Greek. There's very little difference between all the various manuscripts

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in Greek. They're overwhelmingly almost identical. The changes are typically small and

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incidental. Oftentimes, it's clear that they're just copyist errors. Occasionally, you will have

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things that were in the margin that then got migrated where someone had made a note to himself,

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and someone said, well, that sounds good, and ended up inserting it into the text.

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So the reason it's important, I don't want anyone who's hearing us talk about these two

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different textual sources to think, oh no, my Bible is wrong. You're reading your Bible in

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English. It's far removed from these languages. It's translated by men, for the most part. We're

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doing the best they could. Every translation today has some problems. That's okay. It's not going to

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destroy your faith. God has preserved his word for thousands of years. He will continue to do so.

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Yes, we should seek to have the most reliable books of the Bible that we can get our hands on.

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We should seek to have faithful translations. When errors are discovered,

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we should figure out why and how, and we should get rid of them. But none of these conversations

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should ever be an excuse for you to think, oh man, I just, I can't trust any of this now. I don't

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know what's going on. I don't have confidence. God has preserved his word. He preserved it in

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the Maseritic text, even in spite of the interference of the post-Christian Jews who

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were rabidly against the Christians. They still preserved almost all the text completely intact.

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So when there are variations, that should not be a source to think, oh no, something terrible has

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gone wrong. In a few cases, like yeah, it's clear why this change was made. It's almost never the

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case otherwise. So please don't conclude from listening to this episode. I need to get rid of

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my Bible and get a different one. I have to learn about this or I'm not going to have confidence.

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That's not the case. Whatever Bible you have, God is going to use for your edification.

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If you want to learn more about this stuff, there's plenty to learn and study and dig into it.

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And to be enriched, I think that's the important part, is that learning about these variations

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is enriching. It doesn't undermine faith because the more you look at the different copies,

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the more you realize how much they're on the same page, which is miraculous. The only way that this

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stuff could have been preserved across thousands of examples, across millennia, is if God was

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intervening in time and space with the copies, with the manuscripts, with the papyri. Only God

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could have done this. So even when we find things like, that doesn't seem quite right. Doesn't mean

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God didn't do this stuff. It just means that when humans are involved, we have to pay attention.

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That's why this podcast exists because humans are involved. We have to pay attention to stuff. So

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please do not lose confidence in whatever Bible you have, because that is God's word given to you

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for your edification. I personally primarily make use of the ESV. That's, I have, most of my

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Bibles are ESV. I have, I don't even know how many Bibles at this point, but that is in the

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Old Testament primarily relying on the Masoretic. I have no problem trusting the text of the ESV.

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Yes, there are some little problems here and there. They play some games with a couple words,

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but I'm not worried about it. It is still God's word. It is still reliable.

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And to give listeners an idea of the sort of differences between the Greek source documents

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we use for translating the Scriptures, one of the more famous examples is the announcement of the

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angels to the shepherds. In some of the manuscripts, there's an iota missing, literally the smallest

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letter in Greek. It's just a scribal error. It was dropped. It changes the meaning in terms of nuance,

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but it does not change the meaning in terms of content. It basically shifts from the angels

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announcing peace on earth and goodwill toward men to peace on earth and goodwill toward men on whom

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God's favor rests. It's a minor thing and obviously again, smallest letter in Greek, scribal error.

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That's the sort of thing you're seeing when you see disagreements between the manuscripts. These are

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not big disagreements. They're usually relatively minor things. So again, yes, your Bible in English

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or whatever language you're reading it in is reliable. You can rely on that. Yes, it's helpful to

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have some resort to the underlying languages, but you don't even actually have to know them in this

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day and age because you can go and find websites online where you can click on a word in a verse

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and it will tell you exactly what it means in the underlying language so you can verify for yourself.

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If something you read, you have questions, talk to your pastor, talk to someone who understands it,

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or find one of these sites and do the study on your own. There is a wealth of information and

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tools at our disposal today that would have made scholars in the past incredibly envious.

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So on the subject of language, as we mentioned, as I'm sure you all know, the Northern Kingdom

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of Israel was conquered in 722 BC by the Assyrians. As Corey mentioned, when the Assyrians conquered

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them, they used the importation of foreigners to basically impose race mixing to wipe out

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those tribes, and the result was the Samaritans, which is why in scripture we are all familiar with

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the notions that the Samaritans were treated as filthy, as less than, as half-breeds,

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because they had been Israelites, they had been Hebrews at one point, but then when the Assyrians

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forcibly mixed them with other races, they ceased to have the Israelite bloodline and the Jews of

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the first century found that disgusting. They had always been disgusted by them. The Samaritans

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and the Jews had disliked each other for many centuries to that point. The Samaritans were

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created by having been conquered. What's important about the conquering is that

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the Assyrians and the Babylonians and the Persians and then the Greeks and then the Romans

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intern each conquering them, by the way, all judgment from God. When you get conquered five

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times in almost as many centuries by disparate people who are crushing you, that's a bad sign.

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God has turned his back on you. Scripture makes that clear. There was a sea of

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prophets coming to them, calling them to repent for their wickedness, that had led

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to the destruction of the two kingdoms in the first place. One of the things that occurred under

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the Syrian and then Persian rule is that the original Hebrew language in which

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Moses had written the Torah, when God transcribed the Torah for Moses and he wrote it down,

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he used what is today called Proto-Hebrew. The Proto-Hebrew alphabet is similar to hieroglyphs.

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They think it's probably derived. It's downstream. It's not pictograms, but it's similar in that vein

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of simple geometric shapes and some symbols, but it's a fairly primitive language. Today,

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it's called Proto-Hebrew because what replaced it just gets called Hebrew. That's one of the first

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big things that's really important to learn in this episode is that, as I said earlier,

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what you see today when you think, oh yeah, that's Hebrew, it isn't. It is an alphabet that was

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imposed. It's the Aramaic alphabet. They're related, but it's related through the Persian

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conquest. It has no relation whatsoever to the language of Moses. I think that's important

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just as a fact. You don't need to derive any particular theological inclusion from it,

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but simply as a fact, when Moses wrote the Ten Commandments on the stone tablets,

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it was not in what we call Hebrew today. In fact, I think if it's not the Shoah,

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it will definitely include the image. Charlton Heston's Ten Commandments movie,

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the poster with him holding the Ten Commandments, actually has Proto-Hebrew on it. It has the

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Proto-Hebrew alphabet. They got that detail right. If they were to remake that today,

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they would never do that. They would use the fake Hebrew script that's actually Aramaic today.

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They came from Persia. Why? Because we think that there's a direct continuity between

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Abraham and Moses and Jesus and us. Languages go through those evolutions. I was just looking

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earlier today at Middle English and Old English just to see, for example, could I comprehend

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something that was 1,000, 1,200 years old Middle English? I can read most of it. Some of the

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vocabulary is strange. There are a few symbols, a few letters that have been transposed into

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other letters today, but it's intelligible for the most part. That's still English,

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and that's something that's from 7, 800 years ago. You go back to Old English that's over 1,000 years

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old. I can't read it. I can pick out a few words if I know how to phonetically describe them.

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I can maybe guess at what some of them are, but although it's called Old English,

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as an English speaker, it's not accessible to me. This happens all the time in language. It's not

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inherently that something is up, something is sneaky for the Hebrew of today, what is called

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modern Hebrew, to not match what existed in the first century or what existed 500 years before

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Christ. It is important because I think almost everyone thinks that's not the case. We think

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that we have this ancient stuff and that the scripted, square, almost calligraphic letters

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that you know is the Hebrew language, you think that that's what Moses was reading and writing,

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and probably what Adam was reading. Obviously, Adam was a Jew, too. Well, no. The first Jew was

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Jacob, maybe. If you want to say all the Israelites are Jews, I don't care. We'll talk about some of

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the history of the terminology in the next episode, but the important part is that there's a fundamental

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discontinuity. When they were conquered and they had their alphabet replaced, they had their language

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replaced, the Hebrew language was lost. It was completely lost in the Northern Kingdom.

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Interestingly, the Samaritan alphabet is basically the proto-Hebraic alphabet. It preserves many of

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those same symbols. It looks very similar. It's completely disconnected from what is modern Hebrew

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or Aramaic. If you look at Old Hebrew or Proto-Hebrew or whichever term you want to use for it,

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it looks very similar to Phoenician. If you have seen Phoenician lettering before somewhere,

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museum or whatnot, you know exactly what Old Hebrew looked like. They are both derived from

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Proto-Sanaitic, which was even older than that. That looks very similar. It's missing some letters,

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but as was mentioned, modern Hebrew is not what scripture, it's not the language in which

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scripture was written. It's not the text, the alphabet in which scripture was written, because

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this is actually an alphabet that was written in Old Hebrew, which actually, another thing to which

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you could compare it if you know Runic, it looks much more similar to Runic than say modern Hebrew

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slash Aramaic or modern English Latin lettering. But Hebrew itself, the language,

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was basically dead by the time of Christ. It was still used to some degree in what would be

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considered today perhaps academic circles. So you would have had some handful of priests in

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Jerusalem who could still read this language. They didn't use the language, they didn't speak the

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language. Maybe they read the language aloud at certain services on a high holy days. They would

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have had someone there to translate it into Aramaic for the common people, because the common people

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did not know any Hebrew. So at least they had more decency than the medieval Roman church,

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which didn't even bother to translate from Latin. But you can think of it in that same sort of light.

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In the medieval era, you had church services being conducted in Latin. The common people

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did not know Latin anymore. Some of the educated class knew Latin, so it's not directly comparable,

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because you did have Europeans who still knew Latin, who still learned Latin, the sons of

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noble houses and such. But the common people did not know what was going on in the church service,

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because it was conducted in Latin, and they did not translate it into the vernacular.

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You had a similar thing happening around the the switchover, as it were, from BC to AD,

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where Hebrew was no longer understood by the common people. They spoke Aramaic because they

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had been conquered a number of times by Aramaic speaking peoples, and so they had used Aramaic

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in order to deal with their new neighbors, as it were, to handle trade. All of these various

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things were conducted in Aramaic, and so they lost their language over time. That's what happens

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if you stop using your language, you lose your language. And when they were conquered by Alexander

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around 330 BC, they began to speak Greek. They're probably speaking of some before that. But

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if you look at the original languages of the Apocrypha, the books that were written in the

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inter-testamental period after Malachi and before Matthew, none of them are written Hebrew,

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none of them are written Aramaic. They're written in Greek. The Septuagint was translated around

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250 BC. Now, this was in part because I believe it was Tommy II had requested that the laws of the

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Hebrews be translated so that they were accessible, but it was also because the people needed it.

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There were certainly some Aramaic texts of scripture that were available to them,

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but increasingly, there were people who were Jews ethnically who in some cases may not have

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spoken Aramaic either. The translation of scripture in the Septuagint into Greek was also for

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accessibility. And so by the first century, when Jesus was born and the disciples were alive and

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were writing and speaking, they were, as Cory said, virtually none of them would have been

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conversant in Hebrew at all because it would have been no point for someone to be speaking Hebrew

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would be identical to someone today speaking maybe Latin or Old English. It's a dead language

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that isn't used at all. So it's a party trick. Maybe you can have an interesting conversation

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where you teach someone something, but you can't converse. It's not a language of commerce.

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The languages that were used were Greek, Latin, and Aramaic, and that's reflected at Christ's

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crucifixion. In John 19, Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. He read Jesus

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of Nazareth, the king of the Jews. Maybe the Jews read this inscription for the place where Jesus

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was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic and Latin and in Greek. It was not

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written incidentally in Hebrew because there would have been no point. It wasn't that they ran out of

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room. It was if they put Hebrew above Christ's head, no one would have been able to read it.

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That's a big deal. It's a small detail. I don't think it's some huge profound insight,

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but oh, by the way, did you know that no one who is speaking Hebrew in Jesus' day? Most people

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probably don't know that. Please go look this stuff up. I can tell you, you can spend hours

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just on Wikipedia going through the various articles about the language of Jesus on Aramaic,

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on proto-Hebrew. Go do some reading and go do some wiki-holing where you dig down and dig through.

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You will find some places where some of the articles disagree, usually around some of these

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sensitive areas that we're talking about directly. Where they disagree, I would give the benefit

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of the doubt to the version that's less friendly to the modern narrative. To the idea, everyone from

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Adam to Jesus just spoke Hebrew and wrote in Hebrew because that was the universal language?

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No. These Semitic languages were basically a dead end. They're pretty primitive languages. They're

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not remotely sophisticated. It's something like Greek or Latin. Almost nothing is really downstream

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from them. They ran their course and then the civilizations went away and the languages went

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away. There was nothing that they contributed to later. That's not the case with the languages

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we're speaking today. English has had tributaries from many other languages.

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Their language is the winners. Hebrew is not a language of the winners. It's a language of

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the conquered and of the losers. It's worth putting special emphasis on the term that was

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actually on the cross, what Pilate actually put on the cross, and that was Jesus Nazareno

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Yudaiorum. That last word, Yudaiorum, is Judeans. That's the word from which we get

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Jews, as previously mentioned, in English. We ultimately derive it from the Latin.

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It's a demon name, basically. It is a term related to the people of a particular place.

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That's how the Romans named. That's how the Romans named everyone they encountered,

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was according to the land where they found them. That's where we get this term.

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The word Jew isn't even in Scripture in the original languages. That's the term that we use

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in English because in Scripture, it's Judean. As we mentioned the history, these are some of the

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tribes descended from Israel. On the subject of terms, I think it's important to note that

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this is one of the key places, particularly in Scripture and in conversation, where

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Hebrew ceases to mean the same thing. The key example for this is John 19-17.

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In the ESV, it says, and he went out, bearing his own cross to the place called the place of the

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skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. Now, if you're a King James reader, you know that is,

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he bearing his cross went forth into the place called the place of the skull, which is called

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in Hebrew Golgotha. Now, one of those is wrong because Hebrew and Aramaic are two different

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languages. I think it's notable that in many of the cases in Scripture in the New Testament,

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when Jesus is quoted, when he says things like Abba Father or Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabaqfani,

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he's speaking Aramaic. Growing up, no one ever taught me why. I thought, wow, why did he slip

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into some other language? Jesus, he's a Jew. Why is this Hebrew guy talking Aramaic all of a

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sudden? Did he speak Aramaic when he got excited? No, he was always speaking Aramaic to those around

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him. These things were recorded, and God through the Holy Spirit recorded these in the actual words

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that Jesus spoke because there were the words he was speaking all the time, but they weren't

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translated even today. So we hear Abba, and we hear Eloi instead of the translated word from the

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Aramaic. The reason that the King James gets this wrong, and yes, sorry guys, if you're a King James

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only, unless it gets a lot of things wrong, they're not hugely impactful. They did the best they could.

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If they had had more manuscripts, they would have translated a different Bible than the one they

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translated. It's useful. I think it's out of disuse. That's a conversation for another day.

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The important thing is, if you look in Greek in John 1917, the word that King James translates

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in Hebrew is hebreist. The problem here is that Hebrew means one of two things. Either Hebrew

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language means the Hebrew language, as you would say, the English language. When I say English

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language, you know that I don't mean an Englishman. See, that's the distinction. It could be the

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language of the Hebrew people, isn't the language of the English people, or it could be the specific

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language. Now, the distinction is that in Judah, in Judea, they were the Hebrew people, and so

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whatever language they were speaking in Judea was the Hebrew language because they were the Hebrew

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people. I hope I'm making this clear, but the Hebrew language of the Judean people was Aramaic.

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When it says the Hebrew language, it doesn't mean they were speaking Hebrew. It means the Hebrews

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were speaking their language, which was Aramaic. This is something that Josephus, who was the famous

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historian from the 1st century AD, he said himself, he was a Jew. He was well connected. He was well

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favored. He is viewed by Jews today as a traitor. For 1900 years, they wouldn't translate anything he

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had said because they were so angry at him for siding with the Romans. Josephus differentiated

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Hebrew from his language in that of the 1st century Israel. He refers to Hebrew words as belonging to

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the Hebrew tongue, but refers to Aramaic words as belonging to our tongue, or our language, or the

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language of our country. In Josephus, the Hebrew, the Jew of the 1st century, refers to his language

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in the possessive. He always refers to Aramaic. He never refers to Hebrew as in the Hebrew that

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was spoken by Moses, or the Hebrew that was spoken in 800 BC because nobody spoke it anymore.

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He was very well educated. He may have known it, perhaps, because he was so well educated,

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but again, it would have been an academic exercise and not a social one.

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This is also borne out as we find texts, for example, from the Kumran Caves and other places.

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When we find texts, if it's using what we see today as what we call the Hebrew alphabet,

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it's always written in Aramaic. There's nothing written in Hebrew in what we call the Hebrew

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language or the Hebrew alphabet today. I realize some of this is probably getting confusing because

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that's the point of discussing it. The same word is used in different contexts, I mean different

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things. While that's not necessarily duplicitous, it's very easy to get lazy or to get sloppy and

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then to make errors. The downstream have serious problems because when you look in a place like

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the Kumran Cave and you don't find much, if any, Hebrew, there's a little bit in there,

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but I think it's some of the newer stuff. It's important because this was an archive.

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I think today when we think, oh, well, you found something in one language and something in another

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language, you probably have hundreds of books in your homes. Most people listening easily have

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many dozens, probably hundreds of books in your home. The threshold for writing something down

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today for putting something on paper is basically zero. I have probably 800 books in my house.

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A lot of them are crap. They were things that didn't need to be put down on paper.

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That wasn't the case 2000 years ago. It was so incredibly expensive to record anything

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that for something to be written down, whether on parchment or on papyrus,

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meant that it was profoundly important. The preponderance of the evidence when you're looking

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at whatever is written tells you about the languages that they spoke. If no one was speaking

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what we call Hebrew, then you're not going to find much, if any of it. That's what we find.

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We find Aramaic in some of the other languages. We do not find what is called Hebrew today.

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And it seems like this is somewhat confusing, perhaps, but we really have the same thing in

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English. Typically, a German will speak German. Exact same noun used in two very different ways.

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The English speak English. However, Americans speak English. And perhaps one of the best examples

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Belgians who live in Belgium don't speak Belgian. They speak Dutch, French, and German.

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So just because a term has multiple different meanings doesn't mean that the meanings are

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identical. It doesn't mean the term is always used in the same way. And Scripture also doesn't

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always record the language of the original interactions. So it is worth noting Christ's

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new Greek. He probably used Greek a lot in his ministry, because do remember he was ministering

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at times in the vicinity of Greek-speaking cities. He would probably have used Greek

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to speak to those people because many of them probably were not particularly good at Aramaic.

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They were, in some cases, Greeks who had moved from Greece to these Greek colonies,

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or had moved to Roman colonies. Perhaps they were from somewhere else in the Roman Empire,

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but the language of everyday life in the Roman Empire at that time was Greek.

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Yes, that seems confusing as well, but the Romans used Greek because some of the peoples they had

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conquered, in particular the Greeks, spoke Greek. It was an easy language to use for everyday

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interactions, for commerce, and all the things you need to run everyday life in an empire.

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Latin was still the language of the empire at the higher level, so in the Senate, the laws,

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and things like that. But they spoke Greek, and so Christ, again, would also have used Greek.

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And this is something that's made very clear in the New Testament itself,

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as we all know New Testament quotes the Old Testament over and over and over again.

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You can find numerous web pages that show all the connections of direct quotes of the New

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Testament quoting the Old Testament. The reason that's important is that many, I think perhaps

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the majority, you can correct me if I'm wrong, if you know off the top of your head, but I think the

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majority of the quotes of the Old Testament and the New Testament quote the Septuagint,

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they quote the Greek. Now, it's not that it's two different Bibles, it's just that there are

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different ways of phrasing things and perhaps different word order that would be preserved

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differently in Aramaic or Hebrew versus Greek. And so we know that the writers of the New Testament,

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that the men who are recorded as speaking spoke Greek because they quote scripture in Greek.

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They frequently quote the Septuagint, not exclusively, which is important. As we said earlier,

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I don't reject one over the other because scripture doesn't, so I'm not going to do something that

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God didn't do. But it's important to know that Greek is frequently used as the reference of the

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Old Testament in the New. That is substantial, that's important. And it's something that you don't

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hear very much unless you actually get into these fiddly arguments about which one is better.

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We're not trying to make the argument for which one is better. Personally, I wish that Hebrew no

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longer existed. I think it's doing more harm than good. It's not an argument I'm going to make here.

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It's simply important to note that Greek is what Jesus spoke. It's what Paul spoke. They all spoke

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it. They spoke other languages too. They're not like the average American. They could hold more

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than one language in their head. And they did so on a daily basis. And so when scripture quotes

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scripture from the New to the Old, it frequently quotes scripture, God, in Greek.

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For the percentage of quotes that come from the Septuagint versus other translations,

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it would depend on whether you're counting direct or also indirect. And indirect starts to get

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difficult because there are a lot of those. I believe the standard number as it were for

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direct quotations from the Old Testament is 283. And 170 of those are essentially from the

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Septuagint. So 60%. So yes, the majority of the quotations that are direct quotations

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from the Old Testament in the New Testament are from the Greek.

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But just to emphasize what I said about scripture not always recording the original language in

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which something took place, in what language did Moses interact with Pharaoh? Scripture doesn't

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tell us. It was probably Egyptian because he was educated in Pharaoh's household. He spoke Egyptian.

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It would have made sense for him to deal in the language of the Egyptian court when he was dealing

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with the Egyptian court. Scripture doesn't tell us that. But from context, we can of course infer

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that as a reasonable conclusion. Another thing that we can infer as a reasonable conclusion

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from the New Testament, from what it actually tells us when it does tell us the language of

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the original, when Christ is speaking Aramaic in the cases where he is in Scripture, we are told

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specifically that this was an Aramaic. Well, that implies he was not always using Aramaic. He may

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have been using Greek more than Aramaic, in fact, because it is specifically noted when he used Aramaic.

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Now, you don't have to necessarily draw that conclusion. I'm not saying this is a tenet of

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the faith and you absolutely have to believe Christ spent most of his time speaking Coina

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Greek. I'm not saying that. But it is a reasonable inference to draw from what Scripture does tell

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us. We know that he would have used Greek. He lived in an area that spoke Greek. He lived around

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people who spoke Greek. He dealt with people who spoke Greek. He undoubtedly used Greek.

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In the last point to hammer home is that the reason that was happening is that nobody spoke Hebrew.

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Nobody spoke Hebrew. It may have been done ceremonially in the temple, that's likely. It

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may be that a few of the educated men, including probably Christ himself because he was educated

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in the temple, would have been able to read the original Hebrew language, actual Hebrew alphabet

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scrolls. But they had to be translated because apart from the few experts, nobody else knew it.

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And yes, this is a small point. This isn't earth shattering. But it's really interesting that most

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people don't know this. Because again, you see what's called the Hebrew language smacked on

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everything today. And it's like, oh, that's the Bible language. That's the language of Jesus.

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That's what we automatically think. I thought that until a couple of years ago when I learned

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about this, what's going on? Why didn't someone just tell me the truth? What's the difference

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between the true version and the made up version? Well, there are things downstream from the made

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up version that turned out not to be very good for Christians. I'll be in future episodes. But

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we're just making the case today that just know for a fact that Jesus was not running around

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talking Hebrew because no one would have understood it. The Hebrews didn't speak Hebrew.

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They were still Hebrew. They were still descended from Abraham, which is one of the last things that

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we're going to get into here today. We're going to conclude this just by reading a number of passages

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from the New Testament that specifically refute the claim that's very often made. It usually flares

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up around Easter during Holy Week. Usually by Good Friday, there have been think pieces and people

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fretting, saying it's so anti-Semitic for people to say that the Jews killed Christ. The Romans

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killed Christ. Our sins killed Christ. Anything killed Christ except for the Jews. It is true.

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Your sins killed Christ. My sins killed Christ. Jesus died on the cross for our sins.

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Saying how that happened does not diminish the soteriological aspect of it. There's no point

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in making any argument about the facts that try to defend soteriology against men who don't dispute

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the soteriology. We know how we are saved, and we know why we need to be saved. We need to be

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saved from our own sin. God did that on the cross. God's sacrifice on the cross was for us,

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and it was our sins that caused it. Our sins are the ultimate cause. The penultimate cause

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was the Jews. The Jews who had been trying to kill Christ for three and a half years

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finally succeeded, and then the proximate cause was the Romans. Of course, it was Pilate. Jesus

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suffered under Pontius Pilate. That's his epitaph for eternity in the creeds. Talk about the legacy.

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The guy shows up briefly in history, and he's known as the man who scourges the Son of God,

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and yet his actions are less egregious than what the Jews did. I can say that because that's

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literally what Jesus says. He says that those who turn me over to you have the greater sin.

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When God says that, we don't get to disagree. When there are the hysterics around who killed

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Jesus, it is not lying. It's not lying to say that the Romans killed Christ. They crucified him. Why?

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Because they were the only ones with the legal authority to do so. The Jews had been trying to

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murder Christ for years. They had been trying to stone him anything they could do to kill him.

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They finally got their ducks in a row politically and coerced Herod and Pontius Pilate into doing

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it for them, not because they wouldn't have done it themselves, but because they didn't have the

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legal authority to do it. Obviously, Jesus was incarnate for her sins. It's not dismissing or

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minimizing or taking anything away from the fact that we are the reason that Christ had to die on

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the cross for us. It still matters who did it. The reason we're doing these episodes is that

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Christians have been put in this box where we're not allowed to speak as God speaks. Why? Because

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the Jews. To say the Jews, again, as I said at the very beginning, makes people frightened,

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makes them nervous and scared. They don't know what's going to happen next, but they know it's

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not going to be good. That is not the Christian response to anything. We should be fearless and

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we should be confident in our God and in the truth, especially the truth as it's found in Scripture.

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These next passages we're going to look at are specifically all the cases. They were just cherry

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picking some of the myriad passages in the New Testament where it explicitly says that it was

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the Jews who were trying to kill Christ because when they ultimately succeeded in killing Christ,

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mission accomplished. You cannot possibly look at all these passages and then get to the crucifixion

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and think, wow, I can't believe the Romans did that just out of nowhere. It would be laughable.

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No Christian reading the Bible would ever reach that conclusion, and yet so many Christians and

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pastors reached that conclusion today. I've heard things that we're going to read here refuted from

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pulpits where pastors are afraid to attribute to the Jews, to the crowd, to the masses,

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to the group that which Scripture attributes to them. One of the first ones is the very

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beginning of Matthew at the beginning of Jesus' ministry. Interestingly, this is actually started,

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this is prior to his ministry. The very first time the Jew tried to kill him was Herod the Great.

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As soon as he was born and the news came, Herod the Great, who was a ruler, but he was also a Jew,

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said, the angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, rise, take this child and his

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mother and flee to Egypt and remain there until I tell you. For Herod the Great is about to search

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for the child to destroy him. So literally Jesus' entire life on earth was bookended by Jews trying

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to kill him. I think that's important because one of the conversations that frequently comes up

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is to try to shift the emphasis to the political. In Herod's case, he was undoubtedly political.

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All he knew was that someone was saying maybe some prophecy had been fulfilled and maybe some

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Messiah or something is happening. He knew the prophecies. He just didn't want any competition.

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He didn't want uprisings. He'd had enough of that. And so easy thing was to go kill a few babies.

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Later on, when the Jews are chasing Jesus around trying to stone him repeatedly,

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it's not for political reasons. It's for blasphemy. It's for when he says he's the Son of God.

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That's when they try to kill him. And so when we finally get to the crucifixion on Good Friday,

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and everyone wants to line up and say it was the Pharisees who were entirely responsible

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and it was because they were jealous of the power, it doesn't bear out when you actually

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look at the verses that lead up to that for three and a half years that say the complete opposite.

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Now, of course, that is not to deny that the Pharisees did in fact seek to destroy him.

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The point is that when pastors and others try to minimize the participation of the people,

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they are perverting scripture. And so this next one does say that the Pharisees were seeking to

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destroy him, Matthew 12 14, but the Pharisees went out and conspired against him how to destroy him.

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We should note the context of this because this is what often happens in the pages of scripture.

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Christ performs a miracle and then the Jews seek to kill him because of the miracle,

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or some extraneous matter related to the miracle. In this case, it is when Christ healed the man

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with the withered hand, well, he healed him on the Sabbath. And so the Pharisees decided that that was

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prohibited by scripture related to the keeping of the Sabbath, the third commandment,

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and so they conspired to kill him. Of course, they had other reasons as well,

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but Christ very clearly explained it is permissible to do good on the Sabbath. The point of the Sabbath

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is not to sit on your couch and stare at the ceiling. That's not what it means to keep the Sabbath,

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but that is a discussion for another time. The same thing played out when Jesus healed the blind man

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and told him to go and wash his eyes. And when the people saw that he was healed,

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they became very upset. And there was a long scene there where they interrogate his parents,

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they interrogate all the witnesses, and they're angry that Jesus had healed a blind man on the Sabbath.

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It infuriated them. And that's a particularly interesting one because in, I think it's Isaiah

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37 and Isaiah 42, healing the blind is one of the prophecies of God, one of the prophecies pointing

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to the Messiah. And when the scene erupts where Jesus healed the blind man and people are exclaiming,

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one of them says, this has never happened in the history of the world. So it wasn't that there had

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been other prophets in the past who had healed the blind. There had been other healings, but

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Jesus was the first to ever heal the blind. And that's profoundly important because it's a fulfillment

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of a messianic prophecy. And yet, what was the concern of the Jews? Not that the messianic

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prophecy had been fulfilled before their eyes. Not that a miracle had occurred, but that some guy

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broke the rules, broke their rules as they interpreted them, which is crucial because

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their interpretations of the Sabbath, as Jesus makes clear in those passages,

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is not scriptural, is not a godly interpretation. Jesus says, if your ox falls in a ditch on the

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Sabbath, or you're not going to get it out, someone falls in a well, you're not going to get

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him out. Of course you are. Their definition of work was nonsense. And so Jesus demonstrates

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through acting justly and in a godly fashion, the hypocrisy and the evil of the Jews who became

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incensed at this miracle, at this blessing for a man who had been blind from birth.

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That was one of the questions they, who sinned, this man or his parents? And when the man was healed,

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suddenly they don't care about the trick question, now they care about the gotcha question.

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Because all that they ever wanted to do was to trip him up to destroy him.

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I don't think that any other people on the planet would have acted this way.

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If Jesus had come to the Japanese, or to the Germans, or to the Ugandans,

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and started performing miracles and healing them, I don't think anyone else had murdered him.

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I think part of the reason that Jesus was born a Jew among Jews

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was that no one else would behave in this way. That's speculative. Maybe I'm being unfair,

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but I sincerely believe it. I don't think anyone else who shows up and can heal the blind and the

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deaf and the lame is going to be murdered by people. For what? For fulfilling prophecy.

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Like they were told that these things would happen, and when they did, they became enraged.

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And in fact, they frequently said, you have a demon. One of the common refrains,

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I think it was in John, of the crowds of Jews to scream at Jesus as you have a demon. How could

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you say this? I think it's very profound in exemplifying the spiritual nature of the people

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to whom he was going. Now, obviously, it wasn't all of them. There were followers, there were

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disciples who were Jews, just like the others. The difference was that they believed. They believed

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in the promise of the Messiah, and when they saw the promises fulfilled, they rejoiced.

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That's the difference. It's not that all Jews are bad, or that all Jews are saved,

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is that when the promise of Scripture is fulfilled in Christ, those with faith,

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those who are elect, will receive it with gladness, and the rest will shout,

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he has a demon and try to kill him. And we see that sort of energy to this day.

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And yes, that is the same sort of accusation we see today.

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Freud did not get the idea of projection from nowhere. This is something that the Jews and

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Satan have been doing for a very long time. It is to accuse the enemy of exactly what you

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yourself are doing. This is Alinsky again as well, because all of this has the same father.

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And so that is why the Jews are flinging the accusation of you have a demon at Christ. Well,

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no, because the demon is on the other side, Satan's on the other side. Look at how many times

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Christ had to cast out demons during his ministry. There was a very real and active and

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widespread problem with possession and demon oppression in this part of the world at this time.

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And that's why they fling the accusation at Christ. Of course, it's also an insult they

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like to fling at the Samaritans, which is why at one point they accuse him of being a Samaritan

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and having a demon. Now, there are other overtones there as well. They're trying to

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gin up an excuse to murder him, because a Samaritan was not allowed to be where he was

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located in the temple at the time. But that accusation of having a demon,

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we see that all down through history. We see it here in the pages of scripture,

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and we see it today on social media and elsewhere. But the next reading we have

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is one of the most famous or infamous, of course. And that's the crowd in Pilate's courtyard.

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I'll just read the whole section.

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Now, the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and destroy Jesus.

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The governor again said to them, Which of the two do you want me to release for you?

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And they said, Barabbas, Pilate said to them, Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called

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Christ? They all said, Let him be crucified. And he said, Why, what evil has he done?

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But they shouted all the more. Let him be crucified.

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It is not just the Pharisees. It is not just the leaders of the Jews

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who scream for Christ to be crucified. And we'll read another section

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that adds more to this as well. It is the Jews themselves. It is the crowd that screams for

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Barabbas for the murderer over Christ.

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That cannot be avoided. And we are not permitted to minimize that. That is what Scripture says.

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That is what we are required to believe. You don't subtract from Scripture. You don't add

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to Scripture. Revelation is very clear about the warning for those who would do either of those

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things. And it is worth especially noting Pilate tries repeatedly to free Christ.

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Pilate asked multiple times why they want to kill Christ. He picks Barabbas as the option.

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Because do note that Pilate is the one who selects Barabbas. Pilate doesn't just select a prisoner

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at random. He doesn't say, Would you like me to free any prisoner? He says, Would you like this

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murderous rebel who is probably going to go out and murder someone the same day he's released?

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Or do you want Christ? He stacks the deck as much as he possibly can to try to free Christ.

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The crowd will have none of it. The crowd wants his blood.

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And I think that's the chief reason that we focus so much on pastors and teachers because

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the crowd was doing what they had been taught. But the crowd did it.

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The Pharisees and the high priests absolutely ginned up hatred against Christ. Just as we see

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today, we see church leaders on our own J ginning up hatred against men, seeking their murder.

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And people go along with it. People will happily go along with it. Because you know what? When your

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church leader stands up and said, This man is a Nazi. He needs to be thrown out and destroyed.

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He needs to be killed. Who's going to argue? Nobody likes that. And so it's very easy for the

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crowd to go along. God doesn't care what your station is. Whether you are the leader or you are

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someone at the very bottom in the crowd, just a nameless face. If your voice speaks in opposition

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to that, which is godly, you are guilty of the same murder as everyone else.

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In John 5, it's written,

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The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him.

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And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath.

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But Jesus answered them, My father is working until now and I am working.

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This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because he was not only

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breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own father, making himself equal with God.

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And at the beginning of John 7, it says,

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After this, Jesus went about to Galilee. He would not go into Judea because the Jews were

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seeking to kill him. And then later in John 7, he says,

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Has not Moses given you the law? Yet none of you keeps the law. Why do you seek to kill me?

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The crowd answered, You have a demon. Who is seeking to kill you? The Pharisees heard the

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crowd muttering these things about him. And the chief priests and the Pharisees sent officers to

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arrest him. I think that's an interesting passage, because it was the crowd that wanted Jesus dead.

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And it was the Pharisees and the chief priests who responded to the demand.

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See, we're always told that, Oh, it was a chief priest that were the gang leaders.

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It was a team effort, because the chief priests and the Pharisees, they had their own agenda.

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And it was a wicked one, but they often followed the lead of the crowd. The crowd of what? The

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crowd of Jews. Not every Jew, because obviously when Jesus went around in Galilee, he was with

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Jews. He was with his disciples. They were Jews. It wasn't all of them, but it was a small minority

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who were faithful. The rest were either confused or they were murderous. And the confused he'd

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preached to and the murderous he typically fled. He would go to a place and speak for a little while,

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and then he would disappear because they were trying to murder him continuously for three years.

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I mean, it's like a Benny Hill skit where you have like three times speed, and somebody just

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running back and forth across the screen, and you have the crowd chasing and waving pitchforks

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and torches. That was basically Jesus' ministry. You would go and do something miraculous and

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preach something wonderful, and then everyone tried to murder him. And he had to flee with

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a few followers he had that you could trust not to try to murder him. That was his entire life

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as Jesus, the minister to his people. And for three and a half years, he did that. And finally,

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God permitted them to fulfill their murderous goal, because it was also God's goal, their evil,

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what they meant for evil. God intended for good. God used the evil of the Jews. He used the cowardice

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of Pilate, who knew that he was doing something wrong, but he didn't want to take the political

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risk. So he stacked the deck and then let the chips fall where they may. God used all of those

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failings to pour out the punishment for our sins on Jesus on the cross. All this was done for our

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benefit. And that doesn't change the fact that all of it was evil when it was happening.

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To add to the narrative of the Jews in Pilate's courtyard, Pilate at least twice in this narrative

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says that he will punish Christ and then release him. He is attempting to appease the Jews by

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punishing Christ, but attempting not to have this innocent man's blood on his hands. And yes,

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he does wash his hands of the matter by releasing Christ, and so from Luke 23.

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When Pilate heard this, he asked whether the man was a Galilean, and when he learned that he belonged

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to Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him over to Herod, who was himself in Jerusalem at that time.

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When Herod saw Jesus, he was very glad, for he had long desired to see him, because he had heard

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about him, and he was hoping to see some sign done by him. So he questioned him at some length,

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but he made no answer. The chief priests and the scribes stood by vehemently accusing him,

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and Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then,

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arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate. And Herod and Pilate became friends

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with each other that very day, for before this they had been at enmity with each other.

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Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers of the people,

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and said to them, You brought me this man as one who was misleading the people,

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and after examining him before you, behold, I do not find this man guilty of any of your

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charges against him. Neither did Herod, for he sent him back to us. Look, nothing deserving death

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has been done by him. I will therefore punish and release him. So again, you see in this narrative,

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Pilate is attempting to do anything he can. To not kill Christ, to not have to deal with this issue,

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he sends him over to Herod, hoping that Herod will be able to deal with it.

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And so Christ stands before a Jewish ruler, accused by the Jews standing by. And so they treat

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him shamefully and send him back, after mocking him, send him back to Pilate. Pilate again tries to

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not have to crucify Christ. He says, I will punish the man and then release him.

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And then to continue reading, but they all cried out together, away with this man,

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and released to us Barabbas, a man who had been thrown into prison for an insurrection

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started in the city and for murder. Pilate addressed them once more, desiring to release

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Jesus. But they kept shouting, crucify, crucify him. A third time he said to them,

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why, what evil has he done? I have found in him no guilt deserving death. I will therefore punish

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and release him. But they were urgent, demanding with loud cries that he should be crucified,

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and their voices prevailed. So Pilate decided that their demand should be granted. He released the

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man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection and murder, for whom they asked, but he delivered

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Jesus over to their will. Scripture is very clear again. It says that Pilate desires to release

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Jesus. But the crowd, the Jews, want him crucified. And more than that, because of course we have,

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from Matthew in Matthew 27, and all the people answered, his blood be on us and on our children.

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That is in response to Pilate saying, I am innocent of this man's blood, see to it yourselves.

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The Jews call down a generational curse for Christ's blood on themselves, on themselves and on their

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children. That is what Scripture says. So Christians are not, again, Christians are not permitted

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to minimize what Scripture says about the guilt and the evil of the Jews. That does not mean they

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can't be Christian, because of course they can repent. Even crucifying Christ isn't the unforgivable

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sin. However, being impenitent is unforgivable. And the Jews, by and large, are impenitent.

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Ask them today. You will see, even just go on social media and search for it.

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There are many of them who will say, if Christ came back, we'd crucify Him again.

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To this day, they are proud of what they did in Pilate's courtyard.

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Now, again, that does not apply to those who have repented, who have converted, who have

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ceased to be Jews and become Christians, because that in this case is what it takes. You have

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to cease to be a Jew, to be a Christian. But many of them are proud of what their ancestors did.

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That's the generational curse, his blood on those in that courtyard and on their children.

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That is the word of God. That is what Scripture says. That is what Christians are required to

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believe. And it's, of course, the most ironic blasphemy imaginable, because we too pray for

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Christ's blood to be upon us, upon our children. But from the complete opposite direction,

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we wish to receive the forgiveness of sins found in that blood. They had nothing but contempt for

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it, and they have nothing but contempt for it to this day. So the blood of Christ is upon everyone,

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but it doesn't mean the same thing. When the blood of Christ is upon the elect,

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it is for their salvation. When the blood of Christ is upon those who despise Him,

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it is for their eternal damnation, which is tragic. And I think that we'll get into it in

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a future episode, but I think it's worth noting that today you have the Zionists and you have the

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John Haggis and even the Pope himself in the 60s effectively saying, we don't need to evangelize the

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Jews or just find the way they are. Not only is that blasphemy, not only is it absolutely false

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doctrine, but it's the worst possible thing for the Jews. If you hate Jews, then yeah,

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leave them alone. Don't tell them about God. If you hate Jews and want to seem burning in

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eternity, then just let them be because that's the track that they're on. The only loving thing that

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can be possibly done for this group of people is to bring the gospel to them, something incidentally

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is illegal in Israel. You'll be deported if you try to do that. And that spirit is exemplified

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after Christ's crucifixion. I think it's important. Like we said, part of the reason we're talking about

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this particular thing is that there are many pastors who are afraid to say this stuff from the

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pulpit or in Bible study. They want to hem and haw and try to deflect blame from the crowd of Jews

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to the small group of people. Listen to the preaching of Peter in Acts 3. While he clung

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to Peter and John and all the people, utterly astounded, ran together to them in the portico

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called Solomon's. And when Peter saw he addressed the people, men of Israel, why do you wonder at

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this? Or why do you stare at us? As though by our own power or piety, we have made him walk,

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the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers glorified

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his servant Jesus, whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate when he had

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decided to release him. But you denied the holy and righteous one and asked for a murder to be

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granted to you. And you killed the author of life whom God raised from the dead. To this we are

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witnesses. And his name by faith in his name has made this man strong whom you see and know.

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And the faith that is through Jesus has given the man this perfect health in the presence of you

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all. And now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance as did also your rulers. But what

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God foretold by the bough of all the prophets that his Christ would suffer, he thus fulfilled,

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repent therefore and turn back. This is everything that Cori and I just said.

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Peter, as soon as he gets us some preaches, he doesn't say it was the Pharisees that did it. He

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doesn't say your rulers are bad that you're all right. He says, men of Israel, you murdered God.

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And he also offers forgiveness. He says, I know that you acted in ignorance as did also your rulers.

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As Cori just said, it wasn't the unforgivable sin. Even murdering God on the cross was not

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unforgivable. And yet they continue to by and large to persist in their evil. That is what

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the law and the gospel are for. You must deliver to a lot of those who are impenitent in their sins.

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Peter was looking at this crowd of Jews and saying, you murdered Christ. You must repent of this.

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He wasn't begging them, but that was it. You murdered Christ. What possibly could be more

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horrific to a believer than to hear that. And that's precisely why he told them. When we have

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pastors today and we have leaders and we have teachers who are afraid to say that, what happens

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to the Christian faith when we become so ashamed of it that we have to hide it in a corner and we

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can't proclaim it in its fullness as scripture itself proclaims it. We don't get a vote on this

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stuff. We don't get to say it was the Pharisees. It wasn't the crowds. We don't get to just blame

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the crowds either because there are numerous passages to say that the Pharisees, the rulers,

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the high priests conspired off on their own. Everyone was guilty and everyone had the opportunity

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to be forgiven. God says it. We have to say it. We have to say it about the Jews and we have to

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say it about the Jews today. And the fact that today when you say the Jews, people get really

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nervous and suddenly pastors have to get up in the pulpit. I've actually heard pastors change the

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text to avoid saying the Jews. They will say the Pharisees or some other thing to deflect blame

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to that one little outgroup, to blame the leaders, to blame the president of the Senate.

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It's not that guy. It's everyone who's listening. It's everyone who's following evil that is equally

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evil. You don't get an out because you're not senior. The only out is forgiveness through

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repentance. In case anyone thinks that we are going beyond the bounds of the evidence as it were,

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in our comments about what the Jews believe today, I will read for you in English translation.

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A prayer from the Talmud, this one is from the Jerusalem version instead of the Babylonian,

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but they are nearly identical. The Jews traditionally pray three times per day.

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This is the Burqat Haminim. And here is the prayer in English.

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For the apostates let there be no hope and uproot the kingdom of arrogance,

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speedily and in our days. May the Nazarenes and the sectarians perish as in a moment.

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Let them be blotted out of the Book of Life and not be written together with the righteous.

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You are praised, O Lord, who subdues the arrogant.

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You are a Nazarene, if you're a Christian. That's what that means.

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Traditionally, and still today, Jews pray three times per day, cursing you specifically because

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you are a Christian. That is something they've been doing for centuries.

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That is something, again, they still do today. This was something they hid for a very long time.

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But then, I believe it was originally a German academic who got a hold of a copy

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of some of these documents and started translating them. And as the Talmud has been translated,

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we've found more and worse things. And I'm sure at some point we will go over the Talmud in greater

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depth. But this is the mindset of modern Jews. They hate Christians. And incidentally, when

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they're talking about apostates, they are cursing Jews who have converted to Christianity.

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They hold a particular hatred for Jews who convert. But they hate Christians. And they pray and curse

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you multiple times per day. Now, of course, they are not praying to the Lord God because those

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who do not have the Son do not have the Father. And they reject the Son, so they are not praying

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to God the Father. That is an important point. There are many pastors and others who will say,

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well, no, the Jews worship God. They just don't worship Him correctly. No. Scripture says that

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those who do not have the Son do not have the Father. The Jews do not worship the Lord God.

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They do not worship the Father. They do not worship the Trinity. They are not in any way,

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shape or form, related to Christians or Christianity. They are vile pagans. And they pray to curse you

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three times per day, at least. There are other prayers they say that are daily prayers that

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also call down curses. That is the reality of the situation. Yes, exactly. Their prayers are to

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Satan. They are praying to Satan to curse you. There are so many pastors and leaders and others

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who are afraid to say these things. But this is the reality. This is exactly what their own

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holy books say, so-called holy books. And this is just grazing the surface. Incidentally,

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Christ responds to the Talmud in Scripture. One of the most abused passages in Scripture is in part

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a response to a wicked Jewish prayer from proto-versions of the Talmud. Because one of the

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prayers that is said by Jewish men traditionally, at least once per day, sometimes multiple times

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per day, is a prayer that basically says, thank you to God that I was not made a Gentile. Thank you

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to God that I was not made a woman. And so you should be thinking of Galatians 3 28.

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There is neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither slave nor free. There is not male and female.

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Well, they also add to their prayer that thank you God for not making me a slave. Well,

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there are the three categories that Christ uses right there in a Jewish prayer. He is

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responding in part to the evil of the Talmud as it is taking form, because it was not finished until

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around the five hundreds, perhaps a little earlier, but right around that time.

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But some of the materials were obviously coalescing at the time of Christ's ministry.

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So Christians should have some familiarity with these things, because it is responded to in our

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own holy documents, in Scripture. This is not just some esoteric issue that's off on the sidelines.

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This is of the utmost importance, because this deals with a very real, very live controversy in

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our time. And the reason for pointing these things out in time is that none of these are flukes.

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It wasn't a fluke that they just happened to be really mean in the year that Jesus was

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ministering. And it doesn't so happen that they just happen to be really mean when they wrote

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those prayers, or that they're really mean today. For Cesslonians 2 says,

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For you, brothers, became imitators of the Church of God and Christ Jesus that are in Judea,

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for you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews,

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who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out and displeased God and opposed

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all mankind by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved,

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so as always to fill up the measure of their sins, but wrath has come upon them at last.

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This was Paul writing to a Greek city, but he's talking not only about the murder of Christ,

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but how the Jews have been murdering prophets for centuries. This was not new behavior for them.

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God kept sending prophets and they kept getting killed or ignored. Being selected as a prophet

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is never good news. It never ends well. I think the one who got off the best was Elijah.

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He didn't die. He was just taken up on a whirlwind or on a chariot. He didn't have to

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suffer as many others did in death, but his life was no bowl of roses. I think it's important

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to harken back to something that we have mentioned on previous episodes. We didn't mention we were

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talking about the Old Testament today. When Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt,

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they were in the desert. He went up on the mountain to receive the Ten Commandments from God.

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He was gone for 40 days. That was when he received the books. He was up there for 40 days.

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There was a pillar of fire at night and pillars smoked during the day. It was a huge scene.

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It was very visible. The Israelites were down at the base of the mountain. In the 40 days that

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Moses was up there, they descended into idolatry. They had Aaron melt down their gold and make a

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golden calf for them, which, as Corius said previously, was almost certainly one of the

01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:58.240
gods of Egypt that they chose to worship. They said, Aaron, make a god for us. Make the god that

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led us out of Egypt. God's right there in the mountain. God's in a pillar of fire talking to

01:32:03.360 --> 01:32:08.800
Moses, talking to the prophet who led them out of captivity. What do they do? They turn their back

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on him and say, no, we want to make shift, God. We're going to worship this instead. They did.

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Moses comes down and they're having a big party worshiping pagan gods. They just left Egypt.

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They'd just seen all of these miracles. They're before a miracle with the physical special presence

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of God through the fire and the smoke, and they apostatize. This was the spirit of these people.

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So I think one of the key things to understand about the Jewish period of time in scripture is that

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I think a good analog for it is a message in a bottle. The gospel was given to Adam

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in the garden, Genesis 3.15. There was a promise made that God was going to fix this.

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That was expanded upon in future generations. When the day came that God came to Abraham

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and made the special promise to him and then wrestled with Jacob and named him Israel,

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and then when Moses was given the books of God, something changed. What changed was that what

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had been a broadly defined promise became much more narrowly defined in terms of additional

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promises were being made. A covenant was specifically made with Abraham and was renewed with his

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descendants. In some ways, that covenant and the laws, the Levitical laws in particular,

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were like the bottle. You throw a message in the bottle and you throw it in the ocean. It's going

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to bob away and then get somewhere. The function that the Levitical laws or the ceremonial laws

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had for the Israelites is that it made them weird. They had to do weird stuff with their clothing and

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with their food and with their appearance. They weren't going to be permitted to mix with their

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neighbors because God knew that every time his people mixed with their pagan neighbors, they

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became pagan. It didn't work the other way. It should have worked the other way, but they were

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not faithful. Any exposure to foreign gods caused them to whore after foreign gods. That's how God

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describes it as whoring. That's what it is. It's spiritual lust after that which is forbidden,

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which is a cheap imitation, but people's passions get inflamed and they chase that which is fake

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and they turn their back on that which is real. God knew this. He wrapped them in this bottle of

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these Levitical laws that said, you have to do this with your beard and you can't eat these foods

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and you can't sow your grains like this. The isolation that that caused from them

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relative to their neighbors helped to preserve the message, which was the gospel. It was the word

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of God and it was the promises of the Messiah. They were to be preserved through the people

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as well as through the bloodline. The word that was basically their DNA, the ACTG in their genes,

01:35:17.440 --> 01:35:25.360
they would be passed down to Jesus in the flesh. That was from Abraham's seed and there was also

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the word, the spoken word, the promises of God were also passed and that was the function that

01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:37.760
the Jews served for 2000 years. For 2000 years there were no Jews and then for 2000 years from

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Abraham to Jesus the Jews were in varying states of evolution preserving these messages from God

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so that in the day when the Messiah came and fulfilled the prophecies everyone would know

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they would have a list and they would have been studying and looking for it and being excited

01:35:57.200 --> 01:36:04.000
to see it come so that when a man appears and heals the blind and the lame you rejoice and you say

01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:11.040
alas the Messiah has come. That was the purpose. They did everything in their power to fail that

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purpose and yet God preserved them for his ends because they were chosen not to be special

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in some sense of its own but to be the vessel that would preserve these promises until they were

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fulfilled. One of the things that's emphasized repeatedly, particularly in Paul's epistles,

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is because the promises had been given to the Jews they knew about them. Paul's very clear

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that when there's no knowledge sin does not attach in the same way as when there's knowledge

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and so the urgency of reaching the Jews with the gospel especially in his day

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was but they had become apostate. When the prophecies were not yet fulfilled they could hope

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in their future fulfillment but now that they had been fulfilled it was urgent that the Jews

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would be told the prophecies are fulfilled the Messiah has come and he's died and he is

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living again. It was urgent for them to hear that because they were now under condemnation

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for refusing to believe. That's a fundamentally different thing than the the Greek or the Roman

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or the Ugandan or the Indian who's never heard any of this stuff. He's not in the same spiritual

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state as these people who for hundreds and thousands of years had been told these stories

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who'd been given these promises because the promises were made to them and through them for all.

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When Jesus came and fulfilled them and then they rejected them and said his blood be on us

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and our children that was the worst possible thing for them and part of Paul's urgency to

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reach the Jews was to try to save them from their own wickedness just as Peter did in this sermon.

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We said you unknowingly did this repent because when they die that's it. We get to read the book

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today that says here's what happened bad 2000 years ago it wasn't written yet they were living it

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and so they had the choice in their lifetime do I believe in the promise that God has fulfilled

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or do I continue in my hatred of those promises. It might not have been hatred before Christ came

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but once he came that was the proof of who was elect and who was faithless.

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And so on the topic of the Jews and whether or not they can convert to be Christian

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we should of course read Romans 9 the words of Paul here the words of the Holy Spirit

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spoken written through Paul. I am speaking the truth in Christ I am not lying my conscience

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bears me witness in the Holy Spirit that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart

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for I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers

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my kinsmen according to the flesh they are Israelites and to them belong the adoption

01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:08.480
the glory the covenants the giving of the law the worship and the promises to them belong the

01:39:08.480 --> 01:39:14.640
patriarchs and from their race according to the flesh is the Christ who is God overall

01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:15.840
forever amen

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son and not only so but also when Rebecca had conceived children by one man our forefather

01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:57.360
Isaac though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad in order that God's

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purpose of election might continue not because of works but because of him who calls she was told

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the older will serve the younger as it is written Jacob I loved but Esau I hated

01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:16.720
it what shall we say then is there injustice on God's part by no means for he says to Moses

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I will have mercy on whom I have mercy and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion

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so then it depends not on human will or exertion but on God who has mercy

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for the scripture says to Pharaoh for this very purpose I have raised you up

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that I might show my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth

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so then he has mercy on whomever he wills and he heartens whomever he wills

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I think that ties back perfectly into the the election episode that we mentioned earlier again

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that's it's really an important one to understand this and many of the other things we say a lot of

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a lot of what is misunderstood in 21st century Christian theology is the result of a bad

01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:03.520
understanding of election we don't take it seriously we don't we don't think it means anything

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and neither did the Jews I mean that was part of the problem

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they thought that being lineal sons of Abraham was all it took that and obeying the law you

01:41:13.440 --> 01:41:17.840
you keep the law and you're a child of Abraham and you're in and everyone else is out no matter

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what that's not what God said it was never what God promised and so as we look at these things

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it's just important to remember how God speaks he talks about them being important for these

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purposes but it wasn't they were not a purpose unto themselves the Jews didn't exist for the sake

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of the Jews they do today and frankly in most times in history they did the few glory days that

01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:51.040
Israel had were the few days when they were being faithful there wasn't much he had a period under

01:41:51.040 --> 01:41:57.680
David a period under Solomon in precious few other times where there were really glory periods

01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:01.520
the rest was punishment from God for faithlessness

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I want to end here with a passage from John 8 that it comes up every year when Easter rolls around

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because it's something that the Jews to this day explicitly condemn whenever you hear a Jew talking

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about Christianity they will bring up John John 8 particularly John 844 but I'm going to read the

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whole passage to putting in context we're going to talk next week about some of the early church

01:42:29.200 --> 01:42:37.280
fathers and some of the quotes and sermons that are called anti-Semitic where the notion arose

01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:44.800
that you know that that's basically a term of blasphemy to say you were blaspheming against

01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:48.560
something you know when something is called anti-Semitic you're saying you're blaspheming

01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:54.560
the Jews well that is a religion due to have that sort of blasphemy law is indeed a religion

01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:59.600
but it's not the Christian religion a Christian can only blaspheme God we can't blaspheme anything

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else now there are ways that we can blaspheme God that don't necessarily involve that which is overt

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so I'm not trying to draw a fuzzy line here where there's a clear one but we don't get to speak in

01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:19.760
ways that God doesn't speak so I'm going to read this passage from John 8 to close because it's one

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that's despised and it's one that frankly makes Christians uncomfortable this day and that really

01:43:26.240 --> 01:43:30.560
concerns us I mean that's why stone choir exists if there's a passage in scripture that you can

01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:36.640
read to Christians and Christians start squirming you have a problem forget anybody else in the

01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:43.120
world forget any other opinions you might have if you are uncomfortable about something in scripture

01:43:43.120 --> 01:43:51.120
you have a spiritual problem so John 8 Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him

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if you abide in my word you are truly my disciples and you will know the truth and the truth will set

01:43:55.680 --> 01:44:01.040
you free they answered him we are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone

01:44:01.040 --> 01:44:07.040
how is it you say you will become free Jesus answers them truly truly I say to you

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everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin the slave does not remain in the house forever the

01:44:12.160 --> 01:44:18.880
son remains forever so if the son sets you free you will be free indeed I know that you're offspring

01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:24.400
of Abraham yet you seek to kill me because my word finds no place in you I speak of what I

01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:30.480
have seen with my father and you do what you have heard from your father they answered him

01:44:30.480 --> 01:44:35.360
Abraham is our father Jesus said to them if you were Abraham's children you would be doing the

01:44:35.360 --> 01:44:40.880
works Abraham did but now you seek to kill me a man who has told you the truth that I heard from

01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:47.280
God this is not what Abraham did you were doing the works your father did they said to him we are

01:44:47.280 --> 01:44:53.440
not born of sexual immorality we have one father even God Jesus said to them if God were your

01:44:53.440 --> 01:44:58.880
father you would love me for I came from God and I am here I came not of my own accord but he sent

01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:04.640
me why do you not understand what I say it is because you cannot bear to hear my word you are

01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:10.160
of your father the devil and your will is to do your father's desires he was a murderer from the

01:45:10.160 --> 01:45:15.680
beginning and he does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him when he lies he

01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:22.320
speaks out of his own character for he is a liar and the father of lies but because I tell you the

01:45:22.320 --> 01:45:27.600
truth you do not believe me which one of you convicts me of sin if I tell the truth why do you not

01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:33.680
believe me whoever is of God hears the words of God the reason why you do not hear them as a you

01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:43.120
are not of God this is a profound passage because Jesus is speaking directly to a crowd of Jews

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and he's telling them you are Satan's children you are deaf to my voice because you were born

01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:55.440
of the father of lies even as they stand there and they make claims of lineage and claims of

01:45:55.440 --> 01:46:01.440
being sons of Abraham and claims of righteousness he says you have none of those things you do not

01:46:01.440 --> 01:46:06.400
do Abraham's works because you do not have Abraham's faith which was the root of election

01:46:07.440 --> 01:46:13.920
Abraham had faith and it was counted to him as righteousness the circumcision came after the

01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:18.800
circumcision was not what made him righteous he was circumcised because he was righteous he was

01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:25.280
righteous and therefore he obeyed God the order of operations matters and Jesus understood that

01:46:25.280 --> 01:46:30.800
Jesus is God as he said when he came to him and he did his father's things and they hated it it's

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because they are of their father when there's a man today whether it's 2000 years ago or today

01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:46.320
when a man hates the things of God that man is of Satan it's not all Jews today there are a few

01:46:46.320 --> 01:46:51.520
Jews who actually become Christian and cease to be Jews and there are many who are not Jews

01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:56.640
who are enemies of God today and today in our own churches we have these same Jews

01:46:56.640 --> 01:47:02.480
they don't go by the name Jew but they hate God just as much they will thump their genealogy

01:47:02.480 --> 01:47:07.840
it won't be the genealogy of Abraham it will be the genealogy of some confession a confession

01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:13.440
which points God faithfully but they will ignore that part they will just use whatever they can

01:47:14.080 --> 01:47:19.040
as an anchor to make themselves a participant in something where they are not participants

01:47:19.040 --> 01:47:23.920
you can only participate in God's things if you were God's child and you're only his child by

01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:29.840
adoption through faith those who do not have faith are not adopted sons of God they remain

01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:37.520
children of Satan and so as you see people in the world reacting to God's things many times in

01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:42.480
this preaching whether it's from Jesus or Peter or Paul or any other man when they preach some of

01:47:42.480 --> 01:47:48.000
the people were confused they it wasn't ignorant confusion it wasn't a confusion born of a lack

01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:51.760
of faith they were hearing something for the first time and they didn't know what to make of it

01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:59.360
that's okay that there's hope for that man some believed immediately some all already believed

01:48:00.080 --> 01:48:07.120
those are saved the rest and frankly the majority in Jesus day and in our day hear the things of

01:48:07.120 --> 01:48:13.760
God and they react by saying you have a demon you're evil there's no middle ground when you're

01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:19.360
dealing with people who are possessed by the devil they know when they're dealing with a son of God

01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:25.840
and their reactions are violent they're filled with hatred we should expect that when we are

01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:31.600
faithful to God there will be times when it elicits those same responses that is not that

01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:36.400
there's been some miscommunication it's not that we should have been more winsome we should have

01:48:36.400 --> 01:48:42.800
been nicer it's not that if we'd only use different words they would understand it's that we are of

01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:47.760
our father in heaven and they are of their father the devil you will face this in your

01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:52.880
lives if you're faithful christians if you just if you hide and try to ride it out

01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:56.960
it's not going to work but you'll you'll learn that the hard way you are going to have to take

01:48:56.960 --> 01:49:02.480
a stand for christ and there there will be days when that hurts there will be days where you suffer

01:49:02.480 --> 01:49:09.600
for it and you were hated to your face because that is the state that the world is in the father

01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:16.800
of lies the father of jews is running the show today there's not much left of the faithful remnant

01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:22.480
it exists and it will always exist but only because god promised it and god will preserve it

01:49:22.480 --> 01:49:29.360
god will preserve his people everyone else is going to try to kill us that's good news it means

01:49:29.360 --> 01:49:34.400
that we're on the right side it means that we're on god's side and god is on our side that's the

01:49:34.400 --> 01:49:40.160
thing we have to worry about so don't be afraid of topics that seem scary be afraid of the fact

01:49:40.160 --> 01:49:45.120
that a topic that seems scary is scary in the first place because it shouldn't be the truth

01:49:45.120 --> 01:49:51.360
should not scare christians when someone's afraid of the truth that person has a bigger problem and

01:49:52.080 --> 01:49:56.400
we've said before these are not problems that a podcast can solve you need to spend time in the

01:49:56.400 --> 01:50:02.400
word you need to spend time studying scripture and contemplating and meditating on these things

01:50:02.400 --> 01:50:08.000
and be aware in your life not just on sunday not just in bible class be aware every day of where

01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:13.360
you're seeing these things playing out and you will find that there's a spiritual tenor two things

01:50:13.440 --> 01:50:19.600
that don't necessarily have a spiritual context your workplace is going to have a spiritual tenor

01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:25.520
to things where maybe 20 years ago it didn't or if it did it wasn't at all obvious today it's going

01:50:25.520 --> 01:50:31.280
to be obvious this is where the battleground is and this is where we will prove ourselves to either

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be faithful children of god or to be sons of satan as christians we have only one choice

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and as we see others respond we see them choosing as well all these sermons that were delivered in

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the new testament served a winnowing function many wandered away from jesus preaching upset or

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confused or angry a few stuck around because they believed the same math is going to work out today

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be one of the few who sticks around and believes in god because on the last day

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he is going to welcome each of us and so i want to close out this episode by going over

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a seemingly minor technical matter but something that is really at the foundation of all of this

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for this series of episodes and many of the others as well and that is the word concept fallacy

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this is really in a sense related to the idea of essence and accident those who understand

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those terms can tie that together i won't go over that bit but the word concept fallacy has

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two essential forms the first one is that you believe you've studied a word and therefore you

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understand the concept that's a fallacy you can study a word without understanding the concept to

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which it refers but the second one and perhaps the more important one here is the conflation

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of the two things the conflation of the word that symbolizes the concept and the concept itself

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that is what we have happening in many of these issues for instance with the term jew

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there are those who will use the term and then conflate it with the concept and there are

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several different concepts it covers you can be jewish by blood you can be jewish by religion

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those are not the same thing if you conflate those and then say the term always refers to

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one or the other or both you are running a foul of this fallacy you are committing this error

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and so it is important to understand the sense in which the terms are being used

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but perhaps more relevant to us as christians and more on our own backyard

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for instance if you are holding a bible and the book of concord that doesn't make you a lutheran

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if you just say that well i have these and i believe them that still doesn't make you a lutheran

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if you believe them that makes you a lutheran now some will have brought to mind the idea of well

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that's no true scotsman fallacy but it's not and that's where that accident and essence issue comes

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in there are things that you are essentially and there are things that you are not essentially they

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can change if you are male you are essentially male that cannot change you aren't male because you

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believe you're male you aren't male because you call yourself male you aren't male because you put

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pronouns at the end of your email signature that's not how that works that is something you are

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essentially the same is true of your race if you are german you are german because your parents

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were german if you are english you are english because your parents were english the same for any

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race that is something you are essentially you are not essentially a christian because you may

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not have been a christian as a child you could apostatize that can change and therefore it is

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not in this sense of the term essential and so when you are dealing with the no true scotsman

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issue that only applies to things that are essential and that's why it's no true scotsman

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because that is race that is blood you cannot change that and so if you say no true scotsman

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would wear pink and you find a scotsman by blood who's wearing pink well you can't just say well

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no true scotsman because you found a true scotsman who's wearing pink now there are other issues here

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there's some nuance i could go into but we'll leave that aside for now the issue here is that which

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when you are dealing with christianity when you are dealing with religion when you're dealing with a

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confession or a political party anything like that these things have tenets they have doctrines

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they have things they profess things they assert that are true if you believe those things you belong

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to that group because that is what defines the group being a scotsman is defined by blood

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not by what color you wear or which pattern you wear whatever it happens to be that is not the case

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with christianity to be a christian you must believe the things that scripture teaches

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that is what it means to be a christian a christian has faith in christ in the saving blood of christ

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in his atonement in his sacrifice that is what it means to be a christian being a christian does

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not mean holding up the bible and waving it at people that doesn't make you a christian being

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a lutheran doesn't mean holding up the book of concord and waving it at people being reformed

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doesn't mean holding up the westminster confession and waving it at people whichever group it is

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you have to actually believe the contents of that book and so if someone tells you well of course

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i'm x of course i'm this kind of christian look i have the caller in the book and that's not what

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it means what does he actually believe what does he actually teach what does he do in his life

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it is the same thing with the jews there are jews who can convert to christianity

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and no longer be a jew and be christian there are christians who can be apostate in everything they

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do and still claim to be christian simply labeling yourself with the term does not make you the thing

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one would think that christians living in an era when we have men claiming to be women and women

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claiming to be men and people claiming to be dogs and whatever else is happening out there

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one would think it would be obvious that simply claiming to be a thing does not make you the thing

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and yet pastors and many others constantly get away with doing so do not let them get away with it

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simply claiming that you are x does not make you x simply claiming that you are christian

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does not make you christian being a christian means believing the word of god trusting in christ

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as your lord and savior and yes it does also mean rejecting the various teachings of the devil

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that is why as lutherans for instance in our confirmation oath we reject the devil in all

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his works in all his ways because that is part of what it means to be a christian

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and so when the jews told christ we're descended from abraham we've never been slaves of course

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we're zaved of course we're elect that's not what it means that's why in romans it says

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not all who are descended from israel belong to israel those are two different things the first

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is the essential that's race descended from israel the second is belong to israel that's christians

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that's the church you can be descended from israel by blood and not belong to israel the church by

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faith you can belong to israel the church by faith and not be descended from israel the man by blood

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being a christian is a matter of faith that is the core of what we believe that is why

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we call it a faith believe the words of god as they are written in his book don't water them down

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for the world don't ignore them because they're uncomfortable don't start editing the scripture

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because it makes you uncomfortable or it makes your life more difficult as christians we are called

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to proclaim the truth in season and out of season and that is in fact regardless of the consequences

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yes we may apply wisdom to these things but we do not get to deny the truth

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because denying god's truth is denying christ before men

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and we know what christ says about that we as christians are going to spend eternity with adam

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and with noah and with abraham and with moses and with elijah and with jesus we're going to spend

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eternity with them because they were christian they are christian we are christian the essence of

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the christian faith is belief in the gospel belief in the promise of the messiah those who lived

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before the messiah believed in the promise as it was yet to be fulfilled those who lived in christ

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day believed in the promise of the messiah as they witnessed its fulfillment and we who lived

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2000 years after the fulfillment of the messiah's promise believe it in retrospect we believe that

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which has been fulfilled and transmitted to us through time and in eternity we will all be united

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as christians because every single person in heaven every single person who will be in the new

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earth is a christian in essence the essence of the christian faith is belief in the messiah

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who has delivered the eternal life to us every man in faith in heaven believe that and receive

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that is how the christian faith works amen

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