Transcript: Episode 0108
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WEBVTT 00:00:37.392 --> 00:00:39.712Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.712 --> 00:00:40.752 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.752 --> 00:00:41.832 Mahler. 00:00:41.832 --> 00:00:43.692 And I'm still Woe. 00:00:44.792 --> 00:00:50.092 Today's Stone Choir will in all likelihood be our final episode. 00:00:50.092 --> 00:01:02.672 Rather than simply disappearing, we wanted to explain why we wrapped things up, and why we're not doing any more, particularly since when we last left you at the end of the Septuagint series, we said we were going to keep going. 00:01:02.672 --> 00:01:04.332 Things have changed in the world since then. 00:01:04.932 --> 00:01:07.252 The details don't matter. 00:01:07.252 --> 00:01:22.832 But we, as a globe, are now in the after portion of one of those before and after inflection points in human history, and getting into the details is irrelevant. 00:01:22.832 --> 00:01:42.392 But when things change in the environment, as we discussed in the normalcy bias episode, if you continue on as though nothing has changed, you are suddenly putting yourself in a worse position than you were doing exactly the same thing before things changed. 00:01:42.392 --> 00:02:09.312 And so although we had intended on continuing at my surgery and a few other things that happened, our departure has nothing to do with personal circumstances, it became clear to me, and I talked to Corey and we agreed that what we had set out to do with Stone Choir from the beginning, for years before we even began doing this, when we had talked about it, we have effectively accomplished those goals. 00:02:09.312 --> 00:02:21.912 And one of our explicit non-goals was to be content producers that sit here every week and talk in your ear to rattle off whatever the latest thing is and give you our hot takes. 00:02:21.912 --> 00:02:26.752 Despite the appearances to some, that is not what we intended. 00:02:26.752 --> 00:02:28.852 And I don't think it's ever what we did. 00:02:28.852 --> 00:02:40.372 I think that the reason that the library we have produced has stood the test of time for the past three years is that as new people discover us, which is most of you, initially we had no listeners. 00:02:40.372 --> 00:02:50.252 When we began, it was just a few friends from a private group chat, and word spread and it quickly spread beyond anybody that we knew. 00:02:50.252 --> 00:03:07.912 And yet the difference between the size of our audience in year one, when we did, frankly, some of the weightiest episodes in year three, when we were wrapping things up without really realizing it, we hit some of the most important things when almost no one was listening. 00:03:07.912 --> 00:03:13.512 Because we knew that we were building a library that people would refer back to in the future. 00:03:13.512 --> 00:03:25.112 And so every time we have sat down to record, one of the prominent things on our minds has been, is this worth your time listening to, to hear us talk for a couple of hours? 00:03:25.112 --> 00:03:27.812 Is it worth taking up your time? 00:03:27.812 --> 00:03:30.672 Is it something that is going to stand the test of time? 00:03:30.672 --> 00:03:39.772 Is it something that will actually pay dividends years in the future, versus just being something that's momentarily interesting? 00:03:39.772 --> 00:03:47.572 And I think that overwhelmingly we have succeeded in building a library of 107 episodes that do precisely that. 00:03:47.572 --> 00:03:55.752 What that means, however, is that there's really a finite set of things about which you can say that there's always stuff to talk about. 00:03:55.752 --> 00:04:07.092 And while we're not vanishing from the planet, we're going to keep posting and probably appearing elsewhere and doing other things, the purpose of Stone Choir we now believe has been fulfilled. 00:04:07.092 --> 00:04:10.892 You can look back at the 107 episodes in the library. 00:04:10.892 --> 00:04:27.452 And my belief when I began to come to the realization, I think we were finished a month or so ago, was that basically you could say Stone Choir talks about this for pretty much anything that came across the Transom, any new event on a particular day. 00:04:27.452 --> 00:04:38.432 There's probably going to be an episode that would address some fundamental facet that would help anyone get from zero to having a good grasp of the situation unfolding in front of them. 00:04:38.432 --> 00:04:43.952 And so as I started to dawn on me, I applied that heuristic to just whatever popped up any given day. 00:04:43.952 --> 00:04:49.052 And not once in the past few weeks has that statement failed to be true. 00:04:49.052 --> 00:04:59.032 Every time anything interesting came up, not once have I ever thought to myself, we need to do an episode to address some underlying aspect of this. 00:04:59.692 --> 00:05:07.352 In every case, either it was meaningless because it was just sort of passing a fluvia, or we had already dealt with it. 00:05:07.352 --> 00:05:14.952 And it's great to see so many people that we don't even know saying elsewhere online, yes, Stone Choir talks about this, here's the episode link. 00:05:14.952 --> 00:05:18.112 For us, that is mission accomplished. 00:05:18.112 --> 00:05:23.772 The mission was never to have a bunch of people listening to us and thinking anything about us. 00:05:23.772 --> 00:05:33.552 The purpose was to straighten people out about some things that were very important, and looking back, we believe that we have succeeded in doing that. 00:05:33.552 --> 00:05:38.392 So I say this will probably be the last episode, because we're not shutting anything down. 00:05:38.392 --> 00:05:40.492 My microphone is going to stay where it is. 00:05:40.492 --> 00:05:41.852 The feed is going to stay where it is. 00:05:41.852 --> 00:05:43.292 Website is going to stay up. 00:05:43.292 --> 00:05:48.012 Nothing is going to change, except that we don't plan on releasing another episode. 00:05:48.012 --> 00:05:55.892 Simply because we don't believe that there's anything else that's going to come up in the future that would rise to the level of, yeah, we need to expand the library. 00:05:55.892 --> 00:05:56.452 It's possible. 00:05:57.072 --> 00:06:00.332 There may be something that we have not foreseen in the future. 00:06:00.332 --> 00:06:03.032 I don't think there are any subjects that are obvious today. 00:06:03.032 --> 00:06:07.752 If we thought of anything that could have been addressed, we would keep going to address it. 00:06:07.752 --> 00:06:09.632 We've done that. 00:06:09.632 --> 00:06:20.092 I give a 0.05% chance that there's some unforeseen circumstance that would both require our input and we would be around to possibly say anything. 00:06:20.092 --> 00:06:22.072 If that happens, then we will pop back up. 00:06:22.992 --> 00:06:27.512 So, I would recommend to you, don't delete your subscription. 00:06:27.512 --> 00:06:28.052 It's free. 00:06:28.052 --> 00:06:31.032 It doesn't cost anybody anything for you to say you subscribed. 00:06:31.032 --> 00:06:36.112 Maybe two, three years from now, there will be an emergency episode of Stone Choir. 00:06:36.112 --> 00:06:39.372 If we ever pop up again, it's going to be for really good reason. 00:06:39.372 --> 00:06:41.472 It's probably going to be an interesting episode. 00:06:41.472 --> 00:06:45.412 Couldn't begin to tell you what that might be, because if I knew, we would just do it. 00:06:45.412 --> 00:06:48.052 The whole point has been to try to get ahead of things. 00:06:48.052 --> 00:06:54.832 But stay subscribed if you wish, so that you can hear whatever happens on this channel in the future. 00:06:54.832 --> 00:06:57.772 At the same time, don't expect anything. 00:06:57.772 --> 00:07:04.492 So I'd like to say thank you to everyone who has shared all of our episodes over the last three years. 00:07:04.492 --> 00:07:07.892 Thank you everyone, especially those who have supported us financially. 00:07:07.892 --> 00:07:09.972 Some of you incredibly generously. 00:07:09.972 --> 00:07:13.612 And as we've said before, giving to a stranger is always generous. 00:07:13.612 --> 00:07:16.792 But some of you have given quite a lot. 00:07:16.792 --> 00:07:19.552 Far more than I would ever even hope to have. 00:07:20.292 --> 00:07:22.032 I would never ask for it. 00:07:22.032 --> 00:07:26.092 In particular, I want to mention it, because some of you also give on a recurring basis. 00:07:26.092 --> 00:07:37.952 And if what you had in mind with those recurring donations was to encourage us to continue, I would suggest you need to go to the donations website and shut that off, because we're not going to be showing up anymore. 00:07:37.952 --> 00:07:44.112 So we're not going to deliver on your hope or any perceived promise of future performance. 00:07:44.112 --> 00:07:46.112 Please stop giving. 00:07:46.112 --> 00:07:51.892 On the other hand, we're going to leave the donation website up along with the rest for now, because people will be discovering us for years. 00:07:51.892 --> 00:07:59.312 And if somebody wants to say thank you, far be it for me to say I'm too important to accept a gift from a stranger. 00:07:59.312 --> 00:08:06.472 If circumstances were to change for us such that we no longer needed any such thing, we would change things. 00:08:06.472 --> 00:08:13.792 But for the time being, we have only accepted what has been offered freely because it really did matter to us personally. 00:08:13.792 --> 00:08:14.832 Keep sharing episodes. 00:08:14.872 --> 00:08:16.872 Keep saying, hey, Stone Choir talks about this. 00:08:16.872 --> 00:08:17.652 Here you go. 00:08:17.652 --> 00:08:20.592 Keep introducing new people to the podcast. 00:08:20.592 --> 00:08:31.172 I realized a month or so ago, one of my only reasons remaining for doing the show was because people don't understand the concept of a defunct podcast. 00:08:31.172 --> 00:08:35.692 Why would you go listen to some show that doesn't exist anymore? 00:08:35.692 --> 00:08:42.572 It's not really done because almost no one has ever tried to do what we have tried to do with the catalog of episodes. 00:08:43.852 --> 00:08:57.092 So I thought that we would keep going just so people would have a reason to keep sharing, but I realize that just turns us into content producers and that's not sincere or worthwhile, your time or our time or our sanity. 00:08:57.092 --> 00:09:02.692 I have poured everything that I have into this, everything that I've been able to give, I have given. 00:09:02.692 --> 00:09:05.392 If I had anything left, I would give that too. 00:09:05.392 --> 00:09:12.332 If we had anything more to say, we would certainly say it even if it was at the cost of not having anything to give, I would go negative. 00:09:12.412 --> 00:09:17.412 If I have an hour ready to do that, because it's always been worth it to us. 00:09:17.412 --> 00:09:27.052 But at this point, the final message that we have for you from Stone Choir is that the time for talking is over. 00:09:27.052 --> 00:09:32.472 There is no new information that's going to change anything for anyone. 00:09:32.472 --> 00:09:46.732 And this is the hardest lesson for the moderately intelligent man to process, because just like Paul talking about the guy sitting around in the areopagus, talking about whatever came by day by day, it was their thing. 00:09:46.732 --> 00:09:49.672 They would sit there and just shoot the breeze. 00:09:49.672 --> 00:09:51.872 And on one hand, that's fine and that's good. 00:09:51.872 --> 00:09:59.432 And it's a wonderful blessing to sit around with friends and talk about things, around a campfire with some beer. 00:09:59.432 --> 00:10:01.132 That's wonderful. 00:10:01.132 --> 00:10:03.272 We're not saying stop doing that. 00:10:03.272 --> 00:10:10.332 We're not saying that any of our other friends who have podcasts and shows that produce stuff daily should shut up like we are. 00:10:11.432 --> 00:10:13.612 When our friends do it, we're saying it's okay. 00:10:13.612 --> 00:10:24.192 But for us in particular, fleshing out what is effectively a munitions factory, that we have been equipping you for future circumstances that we have foreseen. 00:10:24.192 --> 00:10:26.392 Some of you have foreseen some of them. 00:10:26.392 --> 00:10:30.132 The rest is going to come probably sooner rather than later. 00:10:30.132 --> 00:10:43.752 We have wanted you to be equipped such that when any situation arises, you as a Christian man are going to be able to face it boldly, faithfully, with clarity about what you need to do. 00:10:43.752 --> 00:10:50.752 Not being confused, not being frightened, not having any, no bearing on what is happening in front of you. 00:10:50.752 --> 00:10:56.372 Our goal is to make sure that you hit those situations and you know what to do. 00:10:56.372 --> 00:10:59.632 We wanted this to be a form of training. 00:10:59.632 --> 00:11:10.692 And so for us to go away and to say that we're done training, we're done talking is to our enemies and to our haters is going to seem like we're quitting, like we're giving up. 00:11:10.692 --> 00:11:14.192 When the reality is nothing could be further from the truth. 00:11:14.192 --> 00:11:18.872 Our silence is a testimony to the fact that we know that we have won. 00:11:18.872 --> 00:11:24.292 We have set out to accomplish something that has now been accomplished. 00:11:24.292 --> 00:11:31.692 Such that if you were to go back and re-listen to the three years of episodes, which I do highly recommend, especially if you haven't done it before. 00:11:31.692 --> 00:11:35.732 If you're jonesing for more Stone Choir, the best thing to do is listen to the episodes again. 00:11:36.332 --> 00:11:41.912 They're so dense, you will find stuff that you didn't catch the first time or even the second time. 00:11:41.912 --> 00:11:51.112 What's funny is that some of the things that we said in the first year that almost nobody else was saying, stuff that seemed edgy and controversial. 00:11:51.112 --> 00:11:53.452 Today, it's becoming normal. 00:11:53.452 --> 00:11:59.052 So for us, the victory condition of what we set out to do is irrelevance. 00:11:59.052 --> 00:12:19.452 We set out from the beginning to become irrelevant, because rather than simply having two guys, shouting in the wilderness with nobody listening, if somebody does come along, they're going to hear two guys, seemingly crazy, saying things that nobody likes to hear, that doesn't sound like anybody else, that's not convenient. 00:12:19.452 --> 00:12:21.172 Why are they talking about this? 00:12:21.172 --> 00:12:24.392 This is the opposite of what I've been told. 00:12:24.392 --> 00:12:28.712 Three years on, a lot of those things, everybody's saying it. 00:12:28.712 --> 00:12:38.112 I say everybody, I don't mean the majority, but I mean it is sufficiently common knowledge that there's nothing more for us to do because you have picked up the mantle. 00:12:38.112 --> 00:12:43.212 You have taken these ideas, whether you got them from us or somewhere else. 00:12:43.212 --> 00:12:47.892 We've tried to help flush them out to give a really good form of the argument. 00:12:47.892 --> 00:12:50.712 They can be taken to a normal man and say, look, here you go. 00:12:50.712 --> 00:12:53.572 You thought one thing, it's actually another. 00:12:53.572 --> 00:12:54.512 Straighten up. 00:12:54.512 --> 00:12:59.952 Let's be serious about this and be honest and be faithful to God and do what's right and say what's true. 00:13:00.892 --> 00:13:10.952 And three years on, the stuff that we were talking about the first year is now mainstream battles at the highest level of politics. 00:13:10.952 --> 00:13:15.252 Stuff that was totally fringe when we began. 00:13:15.252 --> 00:13:17.512 In another year, it's going to be totally obsolete. 00:13:17.512 --> 00:13:22.912 But that means that we don't have to be the guys saying it anymore, which was always the goal. 00:13:22.912 --> 00:13:24.852 We never wanted to do it in the first place. 00:13:24.852 --> 00:13:34.412 We only did it because we realized that the men who came before us who had the aptitude and had the platforms and had the knowledge to say this stuff turned out to be cowards. 00:13:34.412 --> 00:13:37.172 They turned out not to be the guys who were going to show up and do it. 00:13:37.172 --> 00:13:42.312 So Corey and I chose to be the first through the door knowing that we wouldn't survive the process. 00:13:42.312 --> 00:13:43.492 And that's fine. 00:13:43.492 --> 00:13:51.552 And many of you have piled through behind us and stepped over our bodies and continued to prosecute the fight in a way that is succeeding. 00:13:52.172 --> 00:13:54.672 And that was the entire point. 00:13:54.672 --> 00:14:08.412 Not to be known or to be remembered, but to be so mundane that in a few more years, if someone does listen to the catalog, we're going to sound like a couple of boomer moderates. 00:14:08.412 --> 00:14:10.432 I want to be obsolete. 00:14:10.432 --> 00:14:16.372 I want people to go further than us to the point that what we have said seems totally generic. 00:14:16.372 --> 00:14:18.092 That's what winning looks like. 00:14:18.092 --> 00:14:19.672 That's what persuasion looks like. 00:14:20.212 --> 00:14:22.732 You don't get to be special anymore. 00:14:22.732 --> 00:14:29.852 And at this point, I don't think there's really anything special about us doing a bunch of new takes. 00:14:29.852 --> 00:14:31.652 You guys are doing a great job. 00:14:31.652 --> 00:14:33.372 I love to see it. 00:14:33.372 --> 00:14:42.572 And crucially, as I said, I don't think that for new material or new fights, new controversies, there's nothing else. 00:14:42.572 --> 00:14:43.932 And that's the hard part of this. 00:14:43.932 --> 00:14:46.832 That's the last lesson in this brief episode. 00:14:46.832 --> 00:14:50.332 There's no new information that's going to change anything. 00:14:50.332 --> 00:14:52.412 You have what you need to know. 00:14:52.412 --> 00:14:56.632 Others can be handed what they need to know to get up to speed quickly. 00:14:56.632 --> 00:15:01.832 What is going to come in the future is not going to be dictated by guys sitting around and talking. 00:15:01.832 --> 00:15:13.492 It's going to be dictated by men acting in a manner that is faithful to God, faithful to their duties, that is fearless, that is dedicated to the truth at all costs. 00:15:13.492 --> 00:15:16.732 And that's what it's going to take for us to prevail in the end. 00:15:17.372 --> 00:15:19.112 And God is with us. 00:15:19.112 --> 00:15:24.052 And we see that now in the turn of the tide in events. 00:15:24.052 --> 00:15:31.392 Things have changed in a way that frankly, I couldn't have hoped for, but it's going to be ugly and it's going to be hard. 00:15:31.392 --> 00:15:38.832 And there's going to be a high cost for many more men than just us in far more serious ways than people saying mean things on the internet. 00:15:40.592 --> 00:15:43.072 We have done everything that we can. 00:15:43.072 --> 00:15:45.072 And now it's up to God and it's up to you. 00:15:46.092 --> 00:15:49.252 You have everything that we can possibly give you. 00:15:49.252 --> 00:15:52.892 And from here on out, Stone Choir is legacy. 00:15:52.892 --> 00:15:56.972 What is done with it is going to be what you see fit to do with it. 00:15:56.972 --> 00:16:00.772 We will not be here anymore to tell you what to do or how to do it or how to think. 00:16:00.772 --> 00:16:03.072 You're going to have to figure it out on your own. 00:16:03.072 --> 00:16:08.412 And by saying that the training is over and that the library is closed, we're saying you have everything that you need. 00:16:08.412 --> 00:16:13.352 You are ready, even if you don't know it yet, even if you don't feel like it. 00:16:13.352 --> 00:16:14.612 That's how training works. 00:16:15.052 --> 00:16:19.712 You get to the end and the guy who is training you says, okay, you're ready for the real thing. 00:16:19.712 --> 00:16:21.812 And you don't feel like it usually. 00:16:21.812 --> 00:16:25.152 You're not going to feel like you have everything you need. 00:16:25.152 --> 00:16:26.272 You do. 00:16:26.272 --> 00:16:29.872 If we can tell you one last thing as we go silent, that is it. 00:16:29.872 --> 00:16:32.252 We are ready for the next steps. 00:16:32.252 --> 00:16:37.172 We have been equipped and what is left is the doing. 00:16:37.172 --> 00:16:43.352 So be faithful to God in all things, serve him in all things, and don't be afraid. 00:16:46.952 --> 00:16:52.832 There's always a temptation in this sort of episode to try to make things exhaustive. 00:16:52.832 --> 00:17:04.932 And instead, much like what we are doing with closing out Stone Choir, although again, there could be a potential episode in the future, if we deem it necessary, something needs to be addressed. 00:17:04.932 --> 00:17:09.452 Similar to what we are doing with the podcast, I will keep things brief with my comments. 00:17:10.692 --> 00:17:17.672 But as I'm sitting here, in my study, I have two of my bookshelves in this room. 00:17:17.672 --> 00:17:21.372 Most of them are down the hall in another room, but I have two bookshelves here. 00:17:21.372 --> 00:17:24.232 And on those shelves are a number of books. 00:17:24.232 --> 00:17:32.332 I quite frankly don't know how many I've been going through and cataloging my books recently, but I'm nowhere near done, so I don't know how many volumes. 00:17:32.332 --> 00:17:43.292 But just looking over the names of the authors as I'm sitting here, and as Woe is speaking, maybe ten of the books were written by men who are still alive. 00:17:46.552 --> 00:17:50.892 That may be an overestimate, but it seems to me that it's probably about right. 00:17:50.892 --> 00:17:54.812 It seems about ten out of far more than ten volumes. 00:17:56.272 --> 00:18:03.072 But it doesn't really matter that those men are no longer around producing content, as one might call it. 00:18:04.112 --> 00:18:07.112 Many of the volumes are from Martin Luther. 00:18:07.112 --> 00:18:10.472 I have about an entire shelf of his works in here. 00:18:10.472 --> 00:18:14.452 Most of my volumes from Luther are again down the hall in another room. 00:18:14.452 --> 00:18:19.972 But I have maybe 20 volumes in here from Luther, maybe a little more than that. 00:18:21.392 --> 00:18:26.892 What Martin Luther produced for the church is still bearing fruit today. 00:18:28.432 --> 00:18:31.032 Martin Luther has been gone for centuries. 00:18:31.912 --> 00:18:33.912 He is no longer producing sermons. 00:18:33.912 --> 00:18:35.312 He's no longer writing books. 00:18:35.312 --> 00:18:42.952 He's certainly not producing podcast episodes, although perhaps he would have if he had been around at that time. 00:18:42.952 --> 00:18:46.112 In our day and age, perhaps he would have done such a thing. 00:18:47.912 --> 00:18:51.252 But his works are still useful, and they're still producing fruit. 00:18:51.252 --> 00:18:57.852 And that's sort of the way that we want you to look at Stone Choir, at least for the foreseeable future. 00:18:57.852 --> 00:19:03.052 What we set about to do, I fully agree with Woe, we accomplished. 00:19:03.052 --> 00:19:11.872 Because our goal was to answer the fundamental questions, to answer things no one else even knew needed to be answered. 00:19:11.872 --> 00:19:28.072 To address the actual core problems, to build the foundation and the framework for, not necessarily other men in all cases, but some other men, and certainly other endeavors, to take and build the future. 00:19:30.192 --> 00:19:33.112 And again, we accomplished that. 00:19:33.112 --> 00:19:50.132 Now in the immediate aftermath of this episode's release, as undoubtedly many of you already know, and as Woe commented on in his remarks, the enemies, the opponents, will believe that they've won some sort of grand victory. 00:19:52.052 --> 00:19:55.232 But of course, some of the demons believe the same thing at Calvary. 00:19:56.652 --> 00:19:58.632 And they haven't won. 00:19:58.632 --> 00:20:02.432 They've suffered a fatal wound, and they don't know it yet. 00:20:02.432 --> 00:20:05.192 That is what we set about to do, and that is what we accomplished. 00:20:05.192 --> 00:20:10.772 And that is why we don't feel any need to release future episodes. 00:20:10.772 --> 00:20:15.092 This was never going to be a matter of churning out content. 00:20:15.092 --> 00:20:18.592 If we were churning out content, then we went about it the entirely wrong way. 00:20:19.612 --> 00:20:24.012 We didn't address the issues that attracted the most attention. 00:20:24.012 --> 00:20:26.292 We didn't do it in a showy way. 00:20:26.292 --> 00:20:37.032 We didn't do it in a way that was going to draw in listeners and advertisers and money and all of these other things that are so very important to other shows. 00:20:37.032 --> 00:20:45.692 And I'm not saying that's always wrong, because of course many of those men make their living off of their content, and so they have to obviously pay the bills, feed their family. 00:20:45.692 --> 00:20:47.012 I'm not condemning that. 00:20:48.632 --> 00:20:54.032 But that was never what we said about to do, because it's not the point of Stone Choir. 00:20:54.032 --> 00:21:01.132 The point of Stone Choir is the creation of an armory or munitions factory, as Woe said. 00:21:01.132 --> 00:21:05.232 And that is what we have given you, and that will continue to function. 00:21:06.372 --> 00:21:16.212 Long after we are no longer making episodes, even if we were gone and were no longer capable of making new episodes, it would continue to function because it will still be out there. 00:21:16.732 --> 00:21:18.592 The website will still be up. 00:21:18.592 --> 00:21:21.732 I will have an archive ready for those who want to download the full thing. 00:21:21.732 --> 00:21:26.252 There's already an archive of most of the episodes, just not the full one yet. 00:21:26.252 --> 00:21:27.772 And so you can pass those around. 00:21:27.772 --> 00:21:29.992 You can send people to the website. 00:21:29.992 --> 00:21:32.572 All of the materials will still be available. 00:21:33.852 --> 00:21:40.632 Now, for my part, and Woe can choose what he wants to do, and he can choose how he wants to tell you he's going to do it. 00:21:40.632 --> 00:21:47.052 But for my part, I'm not going anywhere, because I've sort of already thrown the die. 00:21:47.052 --> 00:21:49.992 I've already cast the dice, as it were. 00:21:51.092 --> 00:21:56.532 And I'm in this to the end, whether it is a sweet end or a bitter end. 00:21:56.532 --> 00:21:57.652 That is the reality of it. 00:21:57.652 --> 00:22:04.252 What we're doing here is we're closing out specifically Stone Choir, because Stone Choir has achieved its goal. 00:22:04.252 --> 00:22:12.252 And as Woe said, there is a transition now into other things, because the game board has changed. 00:22:13.432 --> 00:22:15.652 There are different considerations. 00:22:15.652 --> 00:22:18.212 The players are moving. 00:22:18.212 --> 00:22:29.992 And this is no longer what needs to be done, in part because we have already accomplished the goal, but in part because to some degree, the time for talking is drawing to a close. 00:22:29.992 --> 00:22:38.892 That's not to say that the other podcasts and things need to end, and that there's no space for these, because certainly amongst ourselves, you have to continue talking. 00:22:38.892 --> 00:22:40.092 It's part of human existence. 00:22:41.112 --> 00:22:44.952 But the time for action is coming. 00:22:44.952 --> 00:22:46.632 It is a different thing. 00:22:47.912 --> 00:22:57.412 Now, what we have done with Stone Choir was not exclusively, say, religious or theological or doctrinal or political or any of those things. 00:22:57.412 --> 00:23:00.112 It was a combination of those and more. 00:23:00.112 --> 00:23:05.512 But what is coming in the years ahead is certainly political. 00:23:05.512 --> 00:23:07.192 It is a different beast. 00:23:07.192 --> 00:23:09.772 It is something that needs to be addressed in a different way. 00:23:09.952 --> 00:23:21.012 We have given the foundation that is necessary to ensure that those things are done in accordance with God's will, God's desires, what Christian men must do. 00:23:22.992 --> 00:23:33.792 But what needs to be done on that field, what needs to be done by men in that battle, is different from what we did with Stone Choir. 00:23:33.792 --> 00:23:35.672 Stone Choir is a necessary part of it. 00:23:36.552 --> 00:23:40.152 It is a foundational part of that future. 00:23:40.152 --> 00:23:42.212