Transcript: Episode 0015
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WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:01.760 BAAAM BTA 1. 00:01.760 --> 00:26.840 BTA 1 00:26.840 --> 00:28.500 BTA 1. 00:28.500 --> 00:37.580 BAAAM BTA 1. 00:37.580 --> 00:39.580 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:39.580 --> 00:41.660 I am Corey J. Moller. 00:41.660 --> 00:43.900 And I'm Woe. 00:43.900 --> 00:49.100 Today we are going to be discussing a subject that we have mentioned numerous times in previous 00:49.100 --> 00:50.100 episodes. 00:50.100 --> 00:51.260 That is race. 00:51.260 --> 00:56.660 This week's episode and next week's episode will both be specifically about the subject 00:56.660 --> 00:57.660 of race. 00:57.660 --> 01:00.500 Now before you delete this episode and fast forward and just say I don't want to hear 01:00.500 --> 01:06.000 that crap, I'd like to give a preamble and a plea to those who are listening to please 01:06.000 --> 01:09.980 bear with us before you decide that this is something that's just taxing on your mind 01:09.980 --> 01:11.980 and you don't want to hear it. 01:11.980 --> 01:12.980 It's understandable. 01:12.980 --> 01:17.280 If that was your first response, if you heard me say race and you're like, I'm out of 01:17.280 --> 01:18.280 here. 01:18.280 --> 01:20.500 I don't want to hear any of this stuff. 01:20.500 --> 01:24.940 There are basically three groups of people that you have ever heard discussing race in 01:24.940 --> 01:26.940 your life. 01:26.940 --> 01:29.700 First are the atheists. 01:29.700 --> 01:30.700 They're the scientists. 01:30.700 --> 01:37.140 They're the evolutionists who unfortunately have most of the data about these things, about 01:37.140 --> 01:38.140 the scientific. 01:38.140 --> 01:44.900 And again, as we've mentioned in the past, scientific means it's Gantia from Latin knowledge. 01:44.900 --> 01:47.500 Science is not simply about hypothesizing. 01:47.500 --> 01:49.260 It's not about theories. 01:49.260 --> 01:51.580 Science is fundamentally about facts. 01:51.580 --> 01:58.820 And while the atheist evolutionists, scientists who deal with the subject of race specifically 01:58.820 --> 02:05.540 in terms of genetics often have theories that are contrary to scripture, that doesn't 02:05.540 --> 02:08.020 mean that the underlying data is false. 02:08.020 --> 02:12.140 And so today we're going to be discussing the underlying data and we're going to present 02:12.140 --> 02:16.900 our own conclusions from that data that is consistent with scripture. 02:16.900 --> 02:19.100 So that's the reason you haven't heard this before. 02:19.100 --> 02:24.500 You haven't heard someone who's going to engage with the facts and then willing to look 02:24.500 --> 02:27.820 at scripture and see where they fit together. 02:27.820 --> 02:33.700 Because what a scientist discovers in a lab by looking at DNA is a real thing. 02:33.700 --> 02:35.660 It's actually true. 02:35.660 --> 02:42.420 And if they have evolutionary givens that cause them to apply false theories to reach incorrect 02:42.420 --> 02:45.380 conclusions, that doesn't mean that the data is bad. 02:45.380 --> 02:47.340 It means that their conclusions are bad. 02:47.340 --> 02:51.100 So we're going to discuss the data in our own terms and it's not that far from what 02:51.100 --> 02:55.700 they're saying, but it's probably pretty far from what you've heard before. 02:55.700 --> 02:58.420 So that's group one, the evolutionists. 02:58.420 --> 03:03.500 Group two that you've heard before are basically the Marxists, people who will not really let 03:03.500 --> 03:06.740 you pin them down on what race actually means. 03:06.740 --> 03:10.020 They'll just tell you that they'll basically use it as a weapon. 03:10.020 --> 03:15.700 They're going to swing some aspect of race or racism or whatever they're talking about 03:15.700 --> 03:22.620 specifically as a political cudgel within a conversation to demean one group or to elevate 03:22.620 --> 03:27.300 another group or to set true to groups against each other politically. 03:27.300 --> 03:28.740 And it's a huge turn off. 03:28.740 --> 03:29.940 It's incredibly aggravating. 03:29.940 --> 03:33.780 You've probably been on the receiving end of some of those lies. 03:33.780 --> 03:37.060 And so when you hear race, you think, I'm sick of this crap. 03:37.060 --> 03:38.820 I don't want to hear it anymore. 03:38.820 --> 03:39.820 That's not us. 03:39.820 --> 03:40.820 We're not evolutionists. 03:40.820 --> 03:41.820 We're not Marxists. 03:41.820 --> 03:44.620 We're not using this as a cudgel. 03:44.620 --> 03:49.500 And the third group is, frankly, probably the group that you were in as a Christian who 03:49.500 --> 03:52.300 I'm going to call you naive, but it's not meant to be demeaning. 03:52.300 --> 03:53.300 You're insulting. 03:53.300 --> 03:54.580 You've never looked at this stuff. 03:54.580 --> 03:55.580 You don't care. 03:55.580 --> 03:56.980 You don't think it applies to your life. 03:56.980 --> 04:05.700 And so you haven't delved deeply into the fact that underlie the history of the subject. 04:05.700 --> 04:10.580 The reason that that's a problem is that when a Christian ignores the facts related 04:10.580 --> 04:14.460 to race, as a Christian, you're going to then simply turn to 04:14.460 --> 04:15.900 the scripture. 04:15.900 --> 04:22.660 And so it's very easy for Christians who ignore the facts, look at scripture to reach 04:22.660 --> 04:27.900 and correct conclusions that sound scriptural, but they're nonsense. 04:27.900 --> 04:32.860 And we're doing this episode specifically to try to get people over the hurdle of saying 04:32.860 --> 04:35.580 things like one race, the human race. 04:35.580 --> 04:41.660 As though that precludes the possibility that there are subdivisions among humans. 04:41.660 --> 04:45.500 To say that that doesn't exist is to contradict scripture. 04:45.500 --> 04:49.260 And so this episode is actually going to be broken into two parts. 04:49.260 --> 04:55.980 Today, this first episode on race is specifically going to deal with the scientific basis. 04:55.980 --> 04:59.580 It's going to be an episode that's a little bit unusual from some of the others and that 04:59.580 --> 05:04.700 we don't talk much about scripture, but we're going to talk a fair amount about Genesis, 05:04.700 --> 05:07.660 particularly Genesis 1 through Genesis 11. 05:07.660 --> 05:11.860 So from the creation through the Tower of Babel, and then we'll extrapolate a little bit 05:11.860 --> 05:17.940 from then more into recorded human history as we get records from elsewhere in archeological 05:17.940 --> 05:18.940 evidence. 05:18.940 --> 05:22.660 But we're not going to rely very heavily on scripture. 05:22.660 --> 05:29.380 And in particular, we're not going to address any of the satirological disputes of the notions 05:29.380 --> 05:33.260 of race, of the claim of race, of the fact of race. 05:33.260 --> 05:40.020 So if as we're going along, you have in mind Galatians 3.28, which said that there's neither 05:40.020 --> 05:42.980 Jew nor Greek, there's neither slave, nor free. 05:42.980 --> 05:48.180 There is no male and female for all in one in Christ Jesus. 05:48.180 --> 05:54.180 I'm going to ask you for the sake of argument to simply set that aside. 05:54.180 --> 05:56.660 We're going to address it in the second episode. 05:56.660 --> 05:58.380 We're going to address it in detail. 05:58.380 --> 05:59.940 That could be an episode all by itself. 05:59.940 --> 06:04.060 We could do multiple episodes just on Galatians 3.28. 06:04.060 --> 06:05.860 We're not going to address it today. 06:05.860 --> 06:12.220 So if as we go along, you find yourself shouting at your phone or whatever, there's neither 06:12.220 --> 06:14.620 Jew nor Greek, we're going to get to that. 06:14.620 --> 06:17.020 That's not remotely what that passage means. 06:17.020 --> 06:20.340 It's not a refutation of what we're saying in this episode. 06:20.340 --> 06:25.760 So that's basically just a preamble as a plea to hear the whole thing out before you 06:25.760 --> 06:29.620 decide that we fall into one of the first two buckets of either the evolutionists or 06:29.620 --> 06:34.460 the Marxists, which is what some people online, particularly a number of pastors have accused 06:34.460 --> 06:40.860 us of, mainly to discredit us and say that we're hateful and we're not Christian at all. 06:40.860 --> 06:43.140 Cory and I fall into a fourth group. 06:43.140 --> 06:48.580 Men that have looked at this stuff have studied it because we see that the world cares. 06:48.580 --> 06:50.700 We see that Satan cares. 06:50.700 --> 06:56.900 You as a Christian may not think their race has anything to do with your life or with salvation 06:56.900 --> 07:01.500 or with how God operates in the world, Satan feels differently. 07:01.500 --> 07:04.980 And you can tell that even right this moment before you've heard anything else we have 07:04.980 --> 07:09.500 to say in any of our arguments, you can tell the Satan cares because you can't get away 07:09.500 --> 07:11.300 from this damn subject. 07:11.300 --> 07:17.620 That tells you that Satan has a skin in the game when it comes to the subject of race. 07:17.620 --> 07:22.700 Now the hurdle that we're hoping to get people over is the idea that talking about it 07:22.700 --> 07:24.540 at all is evil. 07:24.540 --> 07:26.980 We obviously don't believe that or we would be talking about it. 07:26.980 --> 07:31.100 If we believe that we were saying something evil, you know, if we were Christians we would 07:31.100 --> 07:32.100 shut our mouths. 07:32.100 --> 07:33.100 We wouldn't say it. 07:33.100 --> 07:37.540 So I simply ask for you to bear with us for this episode and the next episode. 07:37.540 --> 07:42.740 And if at the end of that you find that we have been evolutionists and Marxists all along, 07:42.740 --> 07:43.740 that's fine. 07:43.740 --> 07:44.740 You can reach that conclusion. 07:44.740 --> 07:46.460 Just hear our argument first. 07:46.460 --> 07:52.380 So with that out of the way, we're going to begin with, as I mentioned, the first fundamental 07:52.380 --> 07:56.620 misconception that is widely applied among Christians. 07:56.620 --> 08:00.180 And that is that there is one race, the human race. 08:00.180 --> 08:05.580 And so the argument that we often hear from Christians when it comes to race as stated 08:05.580 --> 08:08.620 as one race, the human race. 08:08.620 --> 08:13.500 And the underlying argument for that is that because we are all ultimately descended from 08:13.500 --> 08:18.260 Adam, we are all of the race of Adam. 08:18.260 --> 08:23.260 The problem with that statement is that it is both true and false. 08:23.260 --> 08:29.620 It is true because the speak of men as the race of Adam is accurate. 08:29.620 --> 08:35.140 But to then conclude from that, that all men are of the same race is to equivocate with 08:35.140 --> 08:38.820 regard to the term race. 08:38.820 --> 08:47.820 Race can refer to various levels in the hierarchy in the ancestry of a particular life form. 08:47.820 --> 08:53.060 And so for instance, a good example would be you can speak of the race of dogs, usually 08:53.060 --> 08:54.060 for dogs. 08:54.060 --> 08:58.300 Yes, we call them breed instead, but it's the same thing, same concept here. 08:58.300 --> 09:03.580 If you speak of the breed of golden retriever, you are speaking of something more specific 09:03.580 --> 09:05.380 than just dog. 09:05.380 --> 09:06.660 They're all dogs. 09:06.660 --> 09:13.300 So a golden retriever, a pomeranian, a rot-viler, these are all dogs. 09:13.300 --> 09:15.540 But they are different breeds of dog. 09:15.540 --> 09:23.620 The same for humans, you can speak of the race of Adam, human beings as being one species, 09:23.620 --> 09:30.260 because we are in fact one species by any reasonable definition of that term, all of humanity, one 09:30.260 --> 09:33.460 species, the race of Adam. 09:33.460 --> 09:41.180 But we have over time, according to God's good ordering of creation, become separate 09:41.180 --> 09:44.460 races distinct from each other. 09:44.460 --> 09:49.660 Because as we moved, we adapted to the areas where we started to live. 09:49.660 --> 09:50.660 God designed it that way. 09:50.660 --> 09:55.660 It's very clear, He gave us the order, be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue 09:55.660 --> 09:56.660 it. 09:56.660 --> 09:57.660 That was what we were supposed to do. 09:57.660 --> 10:00.380 Different groups moved to different areas. 10:00.380 --> 10:07.220 And so as that happened, you have the creation of the different races as they exist today. 10:07.220 --> 10:14.980 Now of course, the real genesis of this is in Genesis, is right after the flood. 10:14.980 --> 10:21.980 And the reason we have a real break there is because you have obviously, from Adam and 10:21.980 --> 10:24.380 Eve, up into the time of the flood. 10:24.380 --> 10:28.580 You have man proliferating over the face of the earth, there are various genetic differences 10:28.580 --> 10:29.580 over time. 10:29.580 --> 10:33.700 We don't know as much about the anti-deluvians as we do about those who've come after 10:33.700 --> 10:40.140 the flood, of course, that would be us in the latter category, but you have a bottleneck. 10:40.140 --> 10:46.460 And that bottleneck is Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives. 10:46.460 --> 10:49.380 We don't know the genealogy of their wives. 10:49.380 --> 10:56.020 Much of the genetic variation we see today probably came from the wives of Noah's sons, 10:56.020 --> 11:01.060 because obviously Noah's sons very closely genetically related. 11:01.060 --> 11:04.740 The wives, not necessarily so closely related. 11:04.740 --> 11:07.860 And they spread out after they got off the arc. 11:07.860 --> 11:14.060 The arc came to land in Mount Ararat, which our best guess is Eastern Turkey, or maybe 11:14.060 --> 11:17.860 a little over the border of Turkey, right in that area. 11:17.860 --> 11:19.140 And that bears out. 11:19.140 --> 11:25.220 If you look at the DNA of the various human groups, if you look at how related we are into 11:25.220 --> 11:30.940 whom we're related, you can see that we spread out from basically Turkey. 11:30.940 --> 11:35.700 The old out of Africa hypothesis was not wildly wrong. 11:35.700 --> 11:41.500 It was off by several thousand miles, because the arc came to land in roughly modern day 11:41.500 --> 11:43.300 Turkey. 11:43.300 --> 11:46.380 Europeans are descended from J-5th. 11:46.380 --> 11:50.340 J-5th moved north and west, filled Europe. 11:50.340 --> 11:55.620 Eventually some became sailors and also filled the southern end of the Mediterranean, which 11:55.620 --> 11:58.060 would be North Africa. 11:58.100 --> 12:04.940 The Shemites stayed in the Middle East and also moved eastward into what is today Asia, 12:04.940 --> 12:10.380 and the Hamites moved south through Egypt and then into Africa. 12:10.380 --> 12:15.980 Probably assumed that the Sahara was not quite as big at the time, so it was more passable. 12:15.980 --> 12:19.660 And that is how you end up with the modern racial groups. 12:19.660 --> 12:25.060 They spread out from Noah's Ark, descended from the three patriarchs, and so you have essentially 12:25.060 --> 12:31.380 three major groupings of human beings, major divisions of human races. 12:31.380 --> 12:36.020 Within that, yes, you have smaller divisions to go back again to the term of race and what 12:36.020 --> 12:40.380 it means going from the smallest up to the greatest. 12:40.380 --> 12:44.380 You could speak of the race of Germans. 12:44.380 --> 12:48.540 Then you could speak of the Germanic race, which would include the English and the Dutch 12:48.540 --> 12:49.980 and others. 12:49.980 --> 12:54.900 Then you could speak of the japhithic race, which would be Europeans, descended from J-5th. 12:54.900 --> 13:00.780 Then you could speak of either Noah or Adamic race, which would be all men. 13:00.780 --> 13:05.940 And so it's important to note how the term is being used and not to equivocate, not to 13:05.940 --> 13:12.180 conflate the different senses of this term, because that is often deliberately misleading, 13:12.180 --> 13:19.020 but in many cases for Christians, it is unintentionally misleading because there is a use of a term 13:19.020 --> 13:21.780 as if it were univocal when it is not. 13:21.780 --> 13:28.340 I think one of the toughest things that Christians have to face when looking seriously at the 13:28.340 --> 13:35.140 data about these matters is that, as I said, group one, the atheists and the evolutionists 13:35.140 --> 13:39.460 who do most of the research, who control most of the publication. 13:39.460 --> 13:43.660 Historically, they haven't lied about the data, although that's happening today just 13:43.660 --> 13:45.500 in the last five and ten years. 13:45.500 --> 13:50.820 There's more deliberate fudging of the data, specifically to accord with what Christians 13:50.820 --> 13:54.220 claim as their own morality to say one race, the human race. 13:54.220 --> 13:58.100 Today, the scientists are now saying the same thing, and they're altering their data to 13:58.100 --> 14:03.260 achieve that desired outcome when the data doesn't support it. 14:03.260 --> 14:09.260 So as you delve into this, it's a real challenge because you're forced to listen to people 14:09.260 --> 14:14.700 who are going to reach incorrect conclusions based on their faulty givens. 14:14.700 --> 14:19.740 And most people are not really equipped to sort the good from the bad. 14:19.740 --> 14:25.980 To look at data that itself is sound is solid, like for example, genetic data that bears 14:25.980 --> 14:33.140 out what Cori just said about three different racial groups that are present in genetic data. 14:33.140 --> 14:39.300 You can look at someone's genes and determine, based on statistical analysis, which of those 14:39.300 --> 14:41.540 major buckets they fall into. 14:41.540 --> 14:46.780 And in fact, with a reasonable probability, which of the smaller buckets they fall into, 14:46.780 --> 14:51.740 it's not 100% certain, but even when it's off by a bit, it's not going to be off by much. 14:51.740 --> 14:57.380 You're not going to look at the DNA of a German in Mistake him for a gonon. 14:57.380 --> 14:59.900 You will mistake him for a Frenchman. 14:59.900 --> 15:02.300 You could mistake him for an Englishman. 15:02.300 --> 15:04.860 You're probably not going to mistake him for a Bosnian. 15:04.860 --> 15:09.380 And again, you're not going to mistake him as Japanese, even at the genetic level. 15:09.380 --> 15:10.620 You have no idea where it came from. 15:10.620 --> 15:15.620 It's just it's a blood sample that from what you extracted DNA or epithelial wear, wherever 15:15.620 --> 15:20.500 you get your DNA sample, when you profile it, this stuff is present. 15:20.500 --> 15:24.060 And so you don't need to be a Christian to look at the data. 15:24.060 --> 15:31.260 And that's a hard part of this conversation because as I said, the evolutionary atheists 15:31.260 --> 15:37.420 who are crunching the numbers will then reach evolutionary atheist conclusions. 15:37.420 --> 15:42.740 And for a Christian, when you're looking at it, you're faced with sorting the true 15:42.740 --> 15:48.420 data from the false conclusions and the temptation is just to say, ah, this is all crap. 15:48.420 --> 15:54.660 Because what you're looking at is a scientist who will say that the universe is 14 billion 15:54.660 --> 15:58.100 years old, earth is four and a half billion years old. 15:58.100 --> 16:04.220 Life is a couple billion years old and you had proteins that somehow became cells and 16:04.300 --> 16:08.780 then a cell became a fish and then a fish became a monkey and a monkey became a man and 16:08.780 --> 16:10.980 a man became a race of men. 16:10.980 --> 16:14.420 And as a Christian, you know that almost all of that is nonsense. 16:14.420 --> 16:19.860 The earth is 6,000 years old and all the DNA in our bodies comes from Adam and comes 16:19.860 --> 16:23.420 from Noah in the wives of Noah's sons. 16:23.420 --> 16:26.620 That's a scriptural fact. 16:26.620 --> 16:28.620 It's also a scientific fact. 16:28.620 --> 16:32.700 What the scientists get wrong are the time frames that are involved. 16:32.700 --> 16:36.700 And so when you're looking at the raw data, you're going to find a bunch of erroneous 16:36.700 --> 16:38.460 conclusions. 16:38.460 --> 16:44.700 And I think that for a lot of people, we're doing this episode in the hope that you can 16:44.700 --> 16:52.140 at least take a basis for being able to understand these questions in a Christian fashion that 16:52.140 --> 16:56.620 is not at odds with the scientific facts. 16:56.620 --> 17:00.300 If at the end of this you just throw up your hands and say, I have no idea what's going 17:00.300 --> 17:01.300 on. 17:01.300 --> 17:03.420 I can't make heads or tails out of it. 17:03.420 --> 17:04.500 Honestly that's okay. 17:04.500 --> 17:08.540 Not everyone is equipped to be able to actually wrap their heads around this stuff. 17:08.540 --> 17:13.500 What I would say to you is that if you personally get to the end of what we're saying and say, 17:13.500 --> 17:19.300 I can't make heads or tails of it, that's fine, but you should in the future when you 17:19.300 --> 17:23.420 hear discussions of race refrain from participating. 17:23.420 --> 17:28.180 Because what you're saying is I don't know enough to even be able to reach conclusion. 17:28.260 --> 17:32.700 What we're trying to say is that there are conclusions that can be reached that are consistent 17:32.700 --> 17:35.820 with Scripture that are also consistent with the facts. 17:35.820 --> 17:36.820 Because guess what? 17:36.820 --> 17:38.700 That's what the truth means. 17:38.700 --> 17:43.500 The truth from God, the truth that is revealed in Scripture and the truth that is revealed 17:43.500 --> 17:46.460 in creation are all of one spirit. 17:46.460 --> 17:48.300 It's all the same thing. 17:48.300 --> 17:52.260 And the fact that there are scientists who are atheists who come along and butcher the 17:52.260 --> 17:55.980 facts of creation doesn't alter creation. 17:55.980 --> 17:58.620 It just means that they're telling lies about it. 17:58.620 --> 18:02.060 And so as we discuss this, it's important to tease those out. 18:02.060 --> 18:06.020 So as Corey said, everything became with Adam, began with Adam. 18:06.020 --> 18:12.180 All of the genes in every single human being today came from within Adam's body. 18:12.180 --> 18:14.500 Eve was created from Adam. 18:14.500 --> 18:18.820 We have no reason to believe that there is any portion of Eve that did not come directly 18:18.820 --> 18:19.820 from him. 18:19.820 --> 18:24.140 In fact, I would say it is arguably a heresy to say that there is a single cell in her 18:24.140 --> 18:27.420 body that was not derived from Adam. 18:27.420 --> 18:34.100 Now it's important to note when as we go down this path that when we're talking about 18:34.100 --> 18:39.780 inheritance and we're talking about relation, you get half of your DNA from your father and 18:39.780 --> 18:42.460 half of your DNA from your mother. 18:42.460 --> 18:48.300 What that implies is that half of your father's DNA is not inside you because the other half 18:48.300 --> 18:49.300 came from your mother. 18:49.300 --> 18:51.140 You have 46 chromosomes. 18:51.140 --> 18:53.940 You get 23 from each of them. 18:53.940 --> 18:59.620 As you go back generationally, you know, when you go back generations or powers of two, 18:59.620 --> 19:04.620 so one generation back means that 50, 50, that's one half. 19:04.620 --> 19:08.780 Two generations back is one quarter, so 25%. 19:08.780 --> 19:13.620 If you go back seven generations, you're less than one percent because two to the seventh 19:13.620 --> 19:15.620 is 128. 19:15.620 --> 19:22.460 So you're looking at one 128th of the available genetic data from your great, great, great, 19:22.460 --> 19:26.020 great grandfather in your own body. 19:26.020 --> 19:31.100 What that means is that there's a 50, 50 chance that you'll have a shot of having some 19:31.100 --> 19:33.860 of their DNA in you. 19:33.860 --> 19:36.940 Now this is important for two reasons. 19:36.940 --> 19:42.820 One, it's possible if you go back far enough that you may not have any of the specific genes 19:42.820 --> 19:44.700 from one of your own ancestors. 19:44.700 --> 19:45.700 This is very common. 19:45.700 --> 19:48.700 It's something that shows up when genetic analysis is being done. 19:48.700 --> 19:53.940 If you go back not too many generations, it's possible simply to lose the thread of 19:53.940 --> 19:58.540 relation, not because you're not related to them, but just that there were no specific 19:58.540 --> 20:01.140 genes coming from them. 20:01.140 --> 20:07.700 On the other hand, the second vital point is that all humans are approximately something 20:07.700 --> 20:12.700 like 99.2, 99.5% the same genetically. 20:12.700 --> 20:16.660 This is one of the arguments that's made for one race, the human race, saying all the 20:16.660 --> 20:22.540 genetic variation among various human groups is in that last half percent. 20:22.540 --> 20:29.340 The reason that's misleading is that chimpanzees are about 98.8% the same as human DNA, which 20:29.340 --> 20:35.860 is why the evolutionary scientists will say fish monkey man race because they see the similarity 20:35.860 --> 20:40.060 between the monkey and the man and say, well, clearly they came from the same place. 20:40.060 --> 20:41.620 It's Christians we know that's not the case. 20:41.620 --> 20:48.420 And even more ridiculously, dogs are 94%. 20:48.420 --> 20:56.100 Is it one race, the mammal race, cats are 90% and to give people an idea of how little 20:56.100 --> 21:03.900 DNA varies even across species, fruit flies are 60% the same as human beings. 21:03.900 --> 21:09.980 So it does not take a huge difference in order to, well, it doesn't take a huge difference 21:09.980 --> 21:15.300 genetically in order to have a significant difference phenotypically, which is the expression 21:15.300 --> 21:17.300 of course of the genotype. 21:17.300 --> 21:18.300 Yep. 21:18.300 --> 21:22.460 In fact, in some cases for humans, it can be as little as one base pair. 21:22.460 --> 21:24.700 Yes. 21:24.700 --> 21:29.580 What that tells us is that God likes patterns, He likes repetition. 21:29.580 --> 21:31.860 We see this everywhere in the universe. 21:31.860 --> 21:33.860 Galaxies all have similar structures. 21:33.860 --> 21:37.940 Galaxies all have different structures too, but there are variations on a theme. 21:38.100 --> 21:43.780 It's just like Beethoven or Bach, when they're writing their magnificent works, they will 21:43.780 --> 21:49.420 begin with a phrase and then they'll build it and they'll evolve it and they'll grow it 21:49.420 --> 21:54.020 into something magnificent and then they'll start all over again and they'll do the same 21:54.020 --> 21:59.220 sort of process and reach something that begins with the same basic theme, the same phrase, 21:59.220 --> 22:01.540 but it takes it in a very different direction. 22:01.540 --> 22:05.780 But you'll hear those same echoes throughout the entire piece. 22:05.780 --> 22:08.180 That's a reflection of what God does in creation. 22:08.180 --> 22:13.820 So the fact that monkeys are 98.8%, the same as humans, doesn't mean that we're related 22:13.820 --> 22:16.060 in the sense that we have a common ancestor. 22:16.060 --> 22:20.180 It means that we're related by the fact that we have the same creator and God created 22:20.180 --> 22:26.860 mammals in one sense and then He created lobsters and He created all these weird things 22:26.860 --> 22:29.820 to have all these varieties and variations. 22:29.820 --> 22:37.900 It's according to God's good creation and we can say that Chihuahua and a healer are 22:37.900 --> 22:42.380 subspecies, we're terrified to say that human races are subspecies. 22:42.380 --> 22:47.620 We completely preclude the idea of subspecies when talking about human beings. 22:47.620 --> 22:56.380 In part because of the implications, does it mean that an African somehow has a different 22:56.380 --> 23:00.580 degree of value than a European or an Asian? 23:00.580 --> 23:02.060 That's a moral question. 23:02.060 --> 23:06.900 And the answer before God is no, that's never going to be an argument. 23:06.900 --> 23:09.140 You're going to hear from either of us. 23:09.140 --> 23:11.820 Jesus died for all homo sapiens. 23:11.820 --> 23:14.980 Jesus died for every descendant of Adam. 23:14.980 --> 23:16.340 That's all of us. 23:16.340 --> 23:20.180 Regardless of any of these differences that we're talking about in these episodes, we will 23:20.180 --> 23:25.100 never make any argument that says, well, this man is different than from this man. 23:25.180 --> 23:29.220 Or God cares about this man and doesn't care about this man. 23:29.220 --> 23:34.740 That's absolutely the polar opposite of why we're talking about it in the first place. 23:34.740 --> 23:41.540 We're talking about it because Satan is using this as a wedge to divide Christ's church 23:41.540 --> 23:45.700 and to divide all of humanity in ways that are unnatural. 23:45.700 --> 23:48.340 Now there are natural divisions and that is what race is. 23:48.340 --> 23:50.340 Race is a natural division. 23:50.340 --> 23:54.180 As you look from Babel, what was the story of Babel? 23:54.180 --> 23:58.900 The people who all share the common language when they were told by God be fruitful and 23:58.900 --> 24:03.340 multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, they said, no, we're not going anywhere. 24:03.340 --> 24:06.620 We're going to build a tower that's going to be a monument to our own greatness. 24:06.620 --> 24:11.020 It's going to keep us together in this place and we will be as God. 24:11.020 --> 24:17.020 We will be magnificent and everyone will respect us for how unified we are. 24:17.020 --> 24:19.260 That is the spirit of this age. 24:19.260 --> 24:23.300 One race, the human race is the cry of Babel. 24:23.300 --> 24:28.820 God was so infuriated at the evil of Babel that he came down to earth and he deliberately 24:28.820 --> 24:34.340 confused the languages of men so that they couldn't talk to each other anymore. 24:34.340 --> 24:37.140 Suddenly one man could not speak to another at all. 24:37.140 --> 24:42.420 You have one guy speaking proto-traumatic and another guy speaking proto-Japanese. 24:42.420 --> 24:43.900 They're aliens to each other. 24:43.900 --> 24:46.420 Even though by blood they're related, God said, you know what? 24:46.420 --> 24:47.500 You didn't go your separate ways. 24:47.500 --> 24:51.540 I'm going to separate you because you're never going to be able to communicate again. 24:51.540 --> 24:52.540 They did. 24:52.540 --> 24:58.500 That was what it finally took was the division of language to separate groups which were 24:58.500 --> 25:04.380 then still fairly closely related because they'd only recently come off the ark. 25:04.380 --> 25:07.860 We know how many generations, but it wasn't very long. 25:07.860 --> 25:13.420 Those people were scattered across the face of the earth by God because they were crying 25:13.420 --> 25:15.660 one race, the human race. 25:15.660 --> 25:16.660 God said, this is evil. 25:16.660 --> 25:18.460 I am stopping it now. 25:18.460 --> 25:22.100 That's what did he do according to Acts 1726. 25:22.100 --> 25:27.260 He appointed the boundaries of men and the boundaries of the dwelling places and the numbers 25:27.260 --> 25:28.420 of their days. 25:28.420 --> 25:31.380 He said, you're going to go here and you're going to go there. 25:31.380 --> 25:37.100 As I mentioned before, you can look at a topographical map of Europe and you can see Norway 25:37.100 --> 25:41.820 Sweden and Finland from space in the topography. 25:41.820 --> 25:47.860 You can see the mountain range that divide the Norsemen from the suite. 25:47.860 --> 25:52.420 You can see the mountain range that divides the Portuguese from the Spanish. 25:52.420 --> 25:58.420 If you just look at a political map of Portugal in Spain, why is that little sliver there 25:58.420 --> 25:59.420 as a separate country? 25:59.420 --> 26:00.780 Never made any sense to me. 26:00.780 --> 26:05.460 I was many years old when I finally saw this topographical map and like, holy crap, 26:05.460 --> 26:07.020 I see Portugal. 26:07.020 --> 26:08.420 Now God did that. 26:08.420 --> 26:11.940 God made those mountain ranges and He sent men to those places. 26:11.940 --> 26:14.740 And what happened when they went to those places? 26:14.740 --> 26:16.660 They became isolated. 26:16.660 --> 26:20.060 They were isolated by language as God ordained. 26:20.060 --> 26:27.100 And then through the process of interbreeding and intermarrying, the genetic content in their 26:27.100 --> 26:29.620 bodies became winnowed. 26:29.620 --> 26:34.940 So the men who were descended from Adam and from Noah who went to Norway got more and more 26:34.940 --> 26:40.180 pale because the genes for them to lose the expression of formalinan that would cause 26:40.180 --> 26:46.300 them to reject most vitamin D in their skins went away. 26:46.300 --> 26:50.540 Now a Norseman who moves to the equator is not going to suddenly turn black again. 26:50.540 --> 26:56.900 It was a one way trip just as you cannot take a chihuahua and turn him back into a wolf. 26:56.900 --> 27:02.020 Even though I think that personally I think it's arguable that if you look at the species 27:02.020 --> 27:08.140 that were on the ark, I don't think that you had a wolf in a coyote and a German shepherd, 27:08.140 --> 27:10.220 even though those all look very similar. 27:10.220 --> 27:15.780 They all have a same common ancestor and see that the evolutionist will tell you that 27:15.780 --> 27:19.780 ancestor is tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of years in the past. 27:19.780 --> 27:23.380 The Christian will say, well the earth is about 6,000 years old so that doesn't make sense. 27:23.380 --> 27:28.900 And all the mammals were killed except for those that were two by two on the ark. 27:28.900 --> 27:34.480 So 4,500 years ago we have this choke point where all the genes of all the creatures that 27:34.480 --> 27:38.220 live on land or fly were placed on the ark. 27:38.220 --> 27:43.420 Personally I believe that there was a wolf or a proto wolf on the ark and that all of 27:43.420 --> 27:48.580 the speciation of the wolf, the coyote, the dog, the fox. 27:48.580 --> 27:55.820 Everything downstream from the wolf classification genetically came from that pair. 27:55.820 --> 27:59.740 And as they went their separate ways and they went to their separate areas where God 27:59.740 --> 28:03.540 had ordained for the Arctic fox to live here and the desert fox to live here. 28:03.540 --> 28:09.940 They're both foxes but they're very differently equipped genetically and human beings work 28:10.020 --> 28:11.340 the same way. 28:11.340 --> 28:14.260 Not that we're foxes, not that we're dogs but that we're creatures. 28:14.260 --> 28:20.260 That we're God's creatures and in his infinite wisdom he gave Adam the genetic material to 28:20.260 --> 28:22.220 fill the entire earth. 28:22.220 --> 28:27.980 So when we talk about race it is not a denial of creation. 28:27.980 --> 28:33.020 It's not a denial of the sixth day creation or of the 6,000 year history of earth. 28:33.020 --> 28:37.660 And it's not to say that human beings are just another animal like all the rest but we 28:37.660 --> 28:42.900 do behave in similar ways because we're all made from the same stuff. 28:42.900 --> 28:46.540 And the genes that God gave us work in the same ways. 28:46.540 --> 28:50.980 And one of the values of looking at things like dogs is because they have much shorter 28:50.980 --> 28:53.100 gestational periods. 28:53.100 --> 28:59.940 You can get most of the dog species subspecies today didn't exist 200 years ago. 28:59.940 --> 29:03.780 They all have a common ancestor that's almost in living memory. 29:03.780 --> 29:08.940 If you get a really old person who remembers another really old person from their family 29:08.940 --> 29:14.620 they can probably that person would be able to remember the ancestor of all the dogs today 29:14.620 --> 29:18.140 even though that person 200 years ago if he looked at a chihuahua and looked at the 29:18.140 --> 29:23.580 same Bernard like what is this stuff I have no idea looks like nothing I've ever seen. 29:23.580 --> 29:26.100 Genetically they all came from the same place. 29:26.100 --> 29:30.620 We're talking about the same thing with people and it's not a denial of humanity and it's 29:30.620 --> 29:35.900 not a denial of salvation it's saying that this is how God has chosen to work in the 29:35.900 --> 29:43.020 last 4500 years since the flood in human lives and that's one of the big hurdles because 29:43.020 --> 29:48.460 the data sounds atheist but the conclusions are entirely consistent with scripture and 29:48.460 --> 29:52.220 they're also entirely consistent with observable reality. 29:52.220 --> 29:55.700 And that's something that I hope people will take away from this discussion is that we're 29:55.700 --> 30:01.140 not talking about theories, we're not talking about hypotheses, we're talking about measurable 30:01.140 --> 30:05.260 discernible facts and ones that actually have consequences and we'll deal with those 30:05.260 --> 30:10.100 consequences in future episodes but first we need to establish that this stuff is actually 30:10.100 --> 30:15.380 real and it's not a threat to your faith to look at it as a real thing. 30:15.380 --> 30:23.380 In fact, the real denial of the faith comes from denying these things because if you 30:23.380 --> 30:29.460 deny the reality of human race or these distinctions, these differences, what God did in time 30:29.460 --> 30:34.940 in the physical world, really that's a form of nosticism because you are denying the reality 30:34.940 --> 30:41.060 of the flesh and so that is a violation of the first article of the creed. 30:41.060 --> 30:46.580 But I think possibly this is a good time to do just a quick biology lesson to give those 30:46.580 --> 30:52.100 who haven't had biology in a while or perhaps never took it, a bit of the fundamentals, 30:52.100 --> 30:56.900 the mechanics here, how this actually works and plays out in reality. 30:56.900 --> 31:00.660 And so there are some terms it is important to know. 31:00.660 --> 31:05.300 I would hope people are familiar with a few of the terms here but one in particular that 31:05.300 --> 31:08.260 is important is haplogroup. 31:08.260 --> 31:13.900 And a haplogroup is basically a group of people who share a common ancestor. 31:13.900 --> 31:19.180 It's defined as a certain number of alleles that tend to be inherited together, alleles 31:19.180 --> 31:21.460 being a different form of a gene. 31:21.460 --> 31:26.540 You can have different forms of the same gene if it's a different one that's an allele. 31:26.540 --> 31:33.940 And so you can look at a map of haplogroups and you can see race on that map. 31:33.940 --> 31:40.460 But two of the most important types of haplogroups and we'll put some images of these in the 31:40.460 --> 31:47.660 show notes would be according to mitochondrial DNA and according to Y chromosome DNA. 31:47.660 --> 31:53.220 And the reason that these two are important is because mitochondrial DNA is inherited 31:53.220 --> 31:55.540 from the mother alone. 31:55.540 --> 31:58.980 You do not get your mitochondrial DNA from your father. 31:58.980 --> 32:05.100 You get it from your mother because the mitochondrial DNA that comes from the sperm is destroyed in 32:05.100 --> 32:07.300 the ovum it is not passed on. 32:07.300 --> 32:10.900 Only the mitochondrial DNA from the mother is passed on. 32:10.900 --> 32:12.980 And so we have a mitochondrial eve. 32:12.980 --> 32:20.740 There is a woman at some point in history from whom all mitochondrial DNA comes. 32:20.740 --> 32:25.860 And of course that in the Christian case is eve is why she's called mitochondrial eve. 32:25.860 --> 32:31.900 Now mitochondrial DNA can mutate over time because really any DNA can mutate over time. 32:31.900 --> 32:34.900 Not all mutations are beneficial, most are harmful. 32:34.900 --> 32:42.420 But some of the mutations are either neutral or they don't harm the organism in such a way 32:42.420 --> 32:43.420 that it doesn't carry on. 32:43.420 --> 32:46.380 And so that will carry on to successive generations. 32:46.380 --> 32:49.940 That's the sort of mutation that does not terminate a line. 32:49.940 --> 32:51.460 It will continue. 32:51.460 --> 32:54.260 Mitochondrial DNA is very stable. 32:54.260 --> 32:58.860 We aren't certain how stable yet, but there are some studies that estimate that it mutates 32:58.860 --> 33:01.380 as infrequently as once every 8,000 years. 33:01.380 --> 33:05.380 Now of course, being Christians again, we know the earth is about 6,000 years old. 33:05.380 --> 33:10.820 This is the year of our Lord 6,027 give or take two or three years. 33:10.820 --> 33:16.060 So they're probably off by a little bit on the rate of mutation, but the point is that 33:16.060 --> 33:17.060 it is very stable. 33:17.060 --> 33:20.820 There's very little mutation in mitochondrial DNA. 33:20.820 --> 33:25.900 The other group is Y chromosome DNA. 33:25.900 --> 33:31.260 Hopefully those who've taken biology remember that women have two X chromosomes and men 33:31.260 --> 33:33.140 have an X and a Y chromosome. 33:33.140 --> 33:38.820 And so obviously you have to inherit your Y chromosome from your father. 33:38.820 --> 33:41.860 Y chromosomes do not really recombine. 33:41.860 --> 33:47.620 And now what recombining is, when you get your genetic information, you get half from 33:47.620 --> 33:53.300 your mother and half from your father, the chromosomes that match. 33:53.300 --> 33:58.060 So if it's the same chromosome, chromosome 5 from each parent, whatever it happens to be, 33:58.060 --> 34:01.620 there can be recombination where DNA can get swapped back and forth. 34:01.620 --> 34:07.420 And that's some of how you get genetic variance in populations over time is recombination. 34:07.420 --> 34:11.980 The Y chromosome recombines very little. 34:11.980 --> 34:15.980 It only recombines on a tail where it matches with the X chromosome that you receive from 34:15.980 --> 34:21.460 the mother, 95% of the Y chromosome does not recombine. 34:21.460 --> 34:28.940 And so you wind up having a relative stability in inheritable Y chromosome DNA over time. 34:28.940 --> 34:33.700 And so you can define human groups according to the Y chromosome because you can look back 34:33.700 --> 34:39.780 to a common male ancestor from whom this population inherited that chromosome. 34:39.780 --> 34:46.780 However, the Y chromosome mutates much more frequently, much more quickly than mitochondrial 34:46.780 --> 34:48.060 DNA. 34:48.060 --> 34:52.660 You get a mutation every generation or so in the Y chromosome. 34:52.660 --> 34:55.100 Now it's a small mutation. 34:55.100 --> 34:56.500 But this can be tracked over time. 34:56.500 --> 35:02.060 What that means is you can tell how groups split from each other over time as human being 35:02.140 --> 35:05.020 spread out over the surface of the earth. 35:05.020 --> 35:10.700 And so if you look at these two maps, together you can pretty much tell exactly where the 35:10.700 --> 35:17.020 races are delineated, simply on the basis of Y chromosome haplogroups and mitochondrial 35:17.020 --> 35:19.660 DNA haplogroups. 35:19.660 --> 35:22.620 And again, we will put the images of this in the show notes. 35:22.620 --> 35:27.500 You can literally look at it and go, I can see the jaffa thites on here. 35:27.500 --> 35:28.940 I can see the hamites on here. 35:28.940 --> 35:30.860 I can see the shemites on here. 35:30.860 --> 35:36.580 I can see Germanic Europe versus Slavic Europe versus Celtic Europe. 35:36.580 --> 35:40.900 These are real things that can be seen and tested in the real world. 35:40.900 --> 35:47.860 And they do not disagree with our faith whatsoever because they actually prove, again, it's 35:47.860 --> 35:52.660 further proof of the truth of the scriptures because you can see the groups that spread 35:52.660 --> 35:55.060 out from the ark. 35:55.060 --> 35:59.900 You can actually see a confirmation of what scripture says playing out in the real world 35:59.900 --> 36:02.180 as God designed it. 36:02.180 --> 36:06.300 We mentioned the show notes a lot and I hope that you're checking those every week. 36:06.300 --> 36:09.660 I hope you're clicking through the URL to look. 36:09.660 --> 36:11.460 This is a podcast that has homework. 36:11.460 --> 36:16.460 Now, you don't need to go look at the stuff in order to like follow up on future episodes. 36:16.460 --> 36:19.060 So it's not, it's a homework that's created. 36:19.060 --> 36:23.820 But in some cases, at least half of the episode isn't anything that we say, but it's a stuff 36:23.820 --> 36:24.820 that we like. 36:24.820 --> 36:30.060 So if you get value out of what we're saying, this episode and the next couple episodes 36:30.060 --> 36:34.340 in particular, please click through and look at this stuff so you can see for yourselves 36:34.340 --> 36:40.140 because this is an audio presentation and where this is a superficial look at this stuff. 36:40.140 --> 36:44.260 We're not going super in depth because frankly, it's not important for the purpose of these 36:44.260 --> 36:45.820 conversations. 36:45.820 --> 36:53.340 This conversation, this episode is specifically making the case that race is a real thing. 36:53.340 --> 36:58.140 So if you have gone around and said one race, the human race, which is very common, people 36:58.140 --> 37:03.460 say without a guilty conscience, they think that they're being Christian. 37:03.460 --> 37:08.060 That's part of why we're refuting it is that it's not a Christian say thing to say, but 37:08.060 --> 37:09.860 it sounds Christian. 37:09.860 --> 37:12.540 It's important as Christians to tell the truth. 37:12.540 --> 37:19.500 And the fact that Satan is attacking this specific area of the truth should be an indication 37:19.500 --> 37:23.300 to every Christian that there's something going on here that matters. 37:23.300 --> 37:28.180 Now in the episode that we did on Christian nationalism and in the episode that we did 37:28.180 --> 37:33.460 on election, both of those we talked of some length in part, probably about 20 minutes 37:33.460 --> 37:35.620 in each episode. 37:35.620 --> 37:42.500 We talked about some of these things about how race and ancestry are concentric circles. 37:42.500 --> 37:46.740 So the notion, and this is this was present I mentioned in a previous episode in the 37:46.740 --> 37:51.180 Webster 1828 definition of race or of nation. 37:51.180 --> 37:57.180 It specifically addresses the fact that there were the race of Adam and the Jews are the 37:57.180 --> 38:02.100 race of Abraham that we as Europeans are the race of Japheth. 38:02.100 --> 38:06.220 And then as you go on down, those races get smaller. 38:06.220 --> 38:12.580 And one of the common false arguments that's a cheap shot and it's dishonest, but it sounds 38:12.580 --> 38:18.780 convincing superficially is that well, how can a German and a Dutchman be a separate 38:18.780 --> 38:21.980 race if European and African are a separate race? 38:21.980 --> 38:23.500 None of it makes any sense. 38:23.500 --> 38:28.540 Like you hear people say that that well, if there's this sort of continuum, I can't make 38:28.540 --> 38:32.220 sense of any of it, none of it must exist. 38:32.220 --> 38:34.500 That's just facially nonsense. 38:34.500 --> 38:39.280 The fact that you have a mother and a father and that your third cousins have a different 38:39.280 --> 38:44.180 mother and father and yet that you have a common great-grandparent, however far back 38:44.180 --> 38:48.880 it goes, doesn't mean you're not related, it just means that you're related to a different 38:48.880 --> 38:54.720 degree than your immediate cousin or your brother or sister. 38:54.720 --> 39:00.040 These degrees of relation are the basis of race. 39:00.040 --> 39:03.720 Now there's the discussion of the subject. 39:03.720 --> 39:07.240 One of the things that will come up is that there are people who say nobody even talked 39:07.240 --> 39:12.000 about any of this stuff until Charles Darwin invented the origin of species and invented 39:12.000 --> 39:17.560 evolution in 1859 and suddenly everyone started talking about race and never existed before 39:17.560 --> 39:19.440 that. 39:19.440 --> 39:21.280 That's a bald face lie. 39:21.280 --> 39:27.360 It's such a laughably retarded lie that it beggars belief that it even exists and 39:27.360 --> 39:31.960 yet there's some fairly intelligent people superficially who will say things like that, not 39:31.960 --> 39:38.720 because it's true, because it's a conversation killing lie that no one is going to fight 39:38.720 --> 39:39.920 them over. 39:39.920 --> 39:46.280 You can go back to Aristotle and see him discussing ethnicity and he broke it down into culture, 39:46.280 --> 39:50.640 language and genetics, which is a good way of breaking it down. 39:50.640 --> 39:57.080 As Cory mentioned, the Germans and the Dutch are genetically almost indistinguishable. 39:57.080 --> 40:00.400 If you look at genes, you're probably not going to be able to tell someone who's Dutch 40:00.400 --> 40:04.920 from someone who's German, yet if you talk to him for 30 seconds, you can clearly tell 40:04.920 --> 40:05.920 the difference. 40:05.920 --> 40:10.600 And in many cases, you might be able to tell just by looking because there are differences 40:10.600 --> 40:15.480 that there are a lot of things about genetics that we don't understand yet. 40:15.480 --> 40:19.600 That doesn't mean it's not real, it just means we don't know what's going on. 40:19.600 --> 40:24.760 The fact of ignorance of a man does not disprove the reality of a fact. 40:24.760 --> 40:30.840 It simply means that what we see with our own eyes, we don't yet have a downstream 40:30.840 --> 40:33.160 explanation for it. 40:33.160 --> 40:37.640 It's okay not to know, but it's not okay to lie because you don't know. 40:37.640 --> 40:41.360 So it is true that there is no one gene for race. 40:41.360 --> 40:45.680 And we'll get into this more in a little bit, but the reason that there's no one gene 40:45.680 --> 40:51.720 is that race is so inextricably linked to who you are as a human being, as a man or 40:51.720 --> 40:56.960 woman that God created in time from all of those fathers and all of those mothers going 40:56.960 --> 41:01.080 all the way back to the flood and back to Adam. 41:01.080 --> 41:07.080 There's such an intrinsic part of you that is from that winnowing process. 41:07.080 --> 41:09.320 That's the reason there's no race gene. 41:09.320 --> 41:12.920 That's the reason there's no skin color gene, which is another lie that we'll get to in 41:12.920 --> 41:13.920 a minute. 41:13.920 --> 41:15.560 These are not superficial things. 41:15.560 --> 41:21.480 These are things that are so deeply embedded in us that we don't yet understand how deep 41:21.480 --> 41:22.640 they go. 41:22.640 --> 41:24.240 That doesn't mean that they don't exist at all. 41:24.240 --> 41:30.280 It just means that as current year science looks at genetic data, it doesn't know where 41:30.280 --> 41:31.520 to find it. 41:31.520 --> 41:36.240 And it doesn't know where to find it because there's so much of it that we don't yet understand. 41:36.240 --> 41:41.120 So looking at these things and saying, well, we don't understand, doesn't preclude the 41:41.120 --> 41:42.120 existence of the thing. 41:42.120 --> 41:45.120 It just means we don't have an explanation. 41:45.120 --> 41:47.280 And it's okay as a Christian to leave it at that. 41:47.280 --> 41:51.840 There are lots of things we don't have explanations for that doesn't mean their false. 41:51.840 --> 41:56.720 In the fact that some of these discussions are coming from atheists and from evolutionists 41:56.720 --> 42:04.120 who have harmful intent in mind when they spread their lying conclusions, doesn't undermine 42:04.120 --> 42:09.360 the reality of the created order that God has given for all of us to observe. 42:09.360 --> 42:12.080 And that's the important part of this. 42:12.080 --> 42:17.520 So to expand on, you brought up skin color, it's a good place to expand on that since 42:17.520 --> 42:20.520 we just went over the genetics as well. 42:20.520 --> 42:28.120 There are those who will try to argue that because you see different skin tones in different 42:28.120 --> 42:32.680 parts of the world, despite them clearly being different races, which is interesting. 42:32.680 --> 42:35.000 They're importing that assumption in there. 42:35.000 --> 42:40.040 But for instance, there are fair skin Japanese. 42:40.040 --> 42:41.600 There are fair skin Europeans. 42:41.600 --> 42:46.440 There are many fair skin people in the Middle East, even to this day, despite the various 42:46.440 --> 42:52.880 conquests that have taken place since the time of the New Testament. 42:52.880 --> 42:58.360 But it is not skin color that is the determiner of race. 42:58.360 --> 43:01.160 It is genetic descent that is the determiner of race. 43:01.160 --> 43:07.520 And that's why we speak of the race of japheth or the race of shem or the race of ham. 43:07.520 --> 43:11.920 It is because a race is founded by a founding stock. 43:11.920 --> 43:18.880 Now the genes that express and cause skin color may be shared across people groups. 43:18.880 --> 43:22.760 As mentioned, there are fair skin peoples in various parts of the world. 43:22.760 --> 43:26.720 There are dark skinned people in various parts of the world. 43:26.720 --> 43:34.280 There is some genetic relation between the Aborigines in Australia and sub-Saharan Africans. 43:34.280 --> 43:38.880 But they are distinct people groups, despite having the same skin tone. 43:38.880 --> 43:44.000 Because race is not skin tone, skin tone is part of your phenotype. 43:44.000 --> 43:48.920 And again, your phenotype is the physical expression of your genotype. 43:48.920 --> 43:50.360 Your genotype is your genetics. 43:50.360 --> 43:54.880 Now, there's more to heritability than genetics, but we won't get into that now. 43:54.880 --> 44:00.200 And quite frankly, even the sciences aren't yet settled on what exactly and how exactly 44:00.200 --> 44:02.200 that works. 44:02.200 --> 44:06.160 So genetics DNA is good enough for our purposes. 44:06.160 --> 44:08.400 But race is not your skin color. 44:08.400 --> 44:12.280 Skin color is not your race. 44:12.280 --> 44:14.040 Because it is more than that. 44:14.040 --> 44:20.920 You are who and what you are because of quite a lot of things that came together historically 44:20.920 --> 44:24.360 to make your people unique. 44:24.360 --> 44:29.080 You are a member of that group because God saw fit to make you a member of that group. 44:29.080 --> 44:30.240 That was part of his plan. 44:30.240 --> 44:37.040 All of these genetic differences between the various races of men existed in Adam. 44:37.040 --> 44:39.840 They were part of God's plan from the beginning. 44:39.840 --> 44:45.920 And so there are those who will tell you that race is a punishment from God as part of 44:45.920 --> 44:47.720 the Tower of Babel. 44:47.720 --> 44:52.360 And that is lying about God that is high-handed sin. 44:52.360 --> 44:56.560 Christians should never let those words pass their lips. 44:56.560 --> 45:01.720 The various races of men are part of God's plan because God intended for us to spread 45:01.720 --> 45:08.120 over the face of the world, adapt to the area in which we live, to be fruitful and multiply. 45:08.120 --> 45:11.800 And he built into Adam the ability to do that. 45:11.800 --> 45:13.960 And that is what has taken place. 45:13.960 --> 45:18.200 And so part of that, of course, is going to be skin tone. 45:18.200 --> 45:22.440 And if you want to look at the explanation for skin tone, it's very easy. 45:22.440 --> 45:25.560 Pull up a map of human skin tones. 45:25.560 --> 45:30.280 You'll see that it is simply a matter of how far you are away from or how close you 45:30.280 --> 45:32.560 are to the equator. 45:32.560 --> 45:35.600 And the reason for that is very simple. 45:35.600 --> 45:41.880 If you get farther away from the equator, you need to be able to absorb more sunlight 45:41.880 --> 45:44.680 for various biological processes. 45:44.680 --> 45:50.040 And so if you have more melanin in your skin, if you have darker skin, you are going 45:50.040 --> 45:53.400 to have a problem producing certain vitamins and other things. 45:53.400 --> 45:55.600 And you are going to have health problems because of that. 45:55.600 --> 45:59.000 So you need fair skin to let the sunlight pass through. 45:59.000 --> 46:02.760 If you are close to the equator, you are going to get plenty of sunlight. 46:02.760 --> 46:08.680 If you are as fair skinned as a sweet or a Norwegian, and you're living on the equator, 46:08.680 --> 46:10.320 you are going to get sunburned. 46:10.320 --> 46:15.240 That's not advantageous unless you live there long enough and are able to tan, of course. 46:15.240 --> 46:17.240 And so that's all skin tone is. 46:17.240 --> 46:20.760 When we speak about race, we're not speaking about skin tone. 46:20.760 --> 46:24.360 skin tone is part of the equation. 46:24.360 --> 46:29.720 It is simply what God built into humanity so that we could live anywhere on the planet. 46:29.720 --> 46:34.760 Instead of just having one skin tone and having to live in a narrow latitude. 46:34.760 --> 46:39.920 And the reason that's important to discuss skin color first is because one of the most 46:39.920 --> 46:44.720 common deceptions, and frankly one of the laziest things that is said, even among people 46:44.720 --> 46:50.120 who know what's going on, is to call some people white and other people black. 46:50.120 --> 46:57.120 You know what someone, it means when they say that, but it's a dangerous frame because 46:57.120 --> 47:00.760 it begs the question that that's all races. 47:00.760 --> 47:03.640 That if someone were lighter, they wouldn't be black anymore. 47:03.640 --> 47:07.520 You can Google pictures of albinoes of various races. 47:07.520 --> 47:10.720 You can have albinoes where they have identical skin tone. 47:10.720 --> 47:12.360 You can clearly tell who's white. 47:12.360 --> 47:16.560 You can tell who's Asian and you can tell who's African because you know what? 47:16.560 --> 47:20.360 There's a lot more going on and it's not just facial features. 47:20.360 --> 47:26.160 It's not just distinguishing eye shape or jaw shape or skull shape, although all those 47:26.160 --> 47:27.800 things are true. 47:27.800 --> 47:35.320 There is a tremendous amount going on by virtue of genetic variation in each of the distinct 47:35.320 --> 47:43.920 races and we begin with the color question because it's such an on-sense because one 47:43.920 --> 47:47.800 of the most common arguments against us will be, you don't like people who look different. 47:47.800 --> 47:51.360 You don't like people with different skin color. 47:51.360 --> 47:52.920 That's just stupid. 47:52.920 --> 47:55.200 It's just flat-out stupid. 47:55.200 --> 48:01.600 None of the discussion of race from those who say it's real has anything to do with skin 48:01.600 --> 48:02.600 color. 48:02.600 --> 48:07.640 Yes, it is a common shorthand because when you say black, everybody knows what you mean. 48:07.640 --> 48:12.680 However, that doesn't mean that because there's a gradient of colors, and at some point, 48:12.680 --> 48:16.760 you have a white person at the opposite point of a black person and there are shades in 48:16.760 --> 48:21.920 between that we can't possibly know what the difference between black and white is. 48:21.920 --> 48:25.000 That is a flat-out logical fallacy. 48:25.000 --> 48:26.400 It's just nonsense. 48:26.400 --> 48:28.800 And yet it's very common with someone. 48:28.800 --> 48:32.040 It's the fallacy of the human. 48:32.040 --> 48:37.120 It's deliberate deception in order to just throw a chaffin in there so no one can have 48:37.120 --> 48:40.400 an honest discussion about this stuff. 48:40.400 --> 48:47.280 There are so many aspects of what it means to have a particular race that manifests in 48:47.280 --> 48:54.320 terms of behavior, in terms of intelligence, in terms of disease profile. 48:54.320 --> 48:58.840 And doctors know all of these things, or at least they did 20 years ago. 48:58.840 --> 49:03.880 And this is what's really deadly about this lie, which as I said, the atheist evolutionists 49:03.880 --> 49:08.840 are now getting on the same pages of Christians and denying race exists, and they're killing 49:08.840 --> 49:10.320 people as a result. 49:10.320 --> 49:11.320 Because you know what? 49:11.320 --> 49:18.360 If you are African, of African descent, you have a much higher likelihood of having sickle 49:18.360 --> 49:19.760 cell anemia. 49:19.760 --> 49:22.280 It's a blood disorder that everyone's heard about. 49:22.280 --> 49:26.000 Your red blood cells have their shaped wrong. 49:26.000 --> 49:34.240 It turns out that the sickle cell mutation is actually advantageous in terms of fighting 49:34.240 --> 49:35.760 malaria. 49:35.760 --> 49:41.640 It's a mutation that harms your ability to correctly deal with oxygen uptake in your blood. 49:41.640 --> 49:45.520 I'm not sure what the effects are, but it has a positive effect. 49:45.520 --> 49:50.000 It has the effect of reducing the ability for malaria to reproduce in your body. 49:50.000 --> 49:55.920 That is only found in Africa because only Africans live near the equator where malaria 49:55.920 --> 49:57.240 is rampant. 49:57.240 --> 50:01.720 You can't have malaria swamps in places like Norway. 50:01.720 --> 50:05.280 There are no mosquitoes carrying malaria in the fjords. 50:05.280 --> 50:08.200 There are in Africa. 50:08.200 --> 50:14.560 These variations that have real world consequences like sickle cell anemia are specifically linked 50:14.560 --> 50:15.880 to race. 50:15.880 --> 50:20.320 It's not that being an African causes you to have sickle cell anemia, it's that the race 50:20.320 --> 50:27.640 of Africans tend to have that particular mutation because of where they lived for 4,500 50:27.640 --> 50:29.240 years. 50:29.240 --> 50:34.880 The same is true across numerous other groups if I had a friend who married a Jewish girl, 50:34.880 --> 50:40.480 and so when they had their first kid, she had to go to have specific prenatal testing 50:40.480 --> 50:45.480 for lots of different genetic diseases that are particular to Jews. 50:45.480 --> 50:49.600 If he had married someone who's white, it wouldn't have been an issue, but Jews are more 50:49.600 --> 50:51.720 likely to have tastesacks. 50:51.720 --> 50:55.600 They're 40% more likely to suffer from schizophrenia. 50:55.600 --> 50:56.600 All these things are genetics. 50:56.600 --> 51:02.560 I say, Jew, I'm not talking about someone who reads the talmud and wears the funny hat. 51:02.560 --> 51:07.640 I'm talking about someone who's descended from those who identify as the race of Jews. 51:07.640 --> 51:10.320 Now, it's not hateful to say that. 51:10.320 --> 51:15.120 I'm not saying curse these people because they're Jews and I want them to have bad diseases. 51:15.120 --> 51:20.400 They have bad diseases in their genes that are particular to them. 51:20.400 --> 51:26.680 These variations are racial, and today, as I said, doctors are now ignoring this stuff. 51:26.680 --> 51:28.880 We're saying, oh, it's all one race to human race. 51:28.880 --> 51:31.280 You can't possibly have any differences. 51:31.280 --> 51:35.600 Well, that's going to get a lot of people killed who wouldn't have died if they had received 51:35.600 --> 51:39.560 the appropriate treatment. 51:39.560 --> 51:45.400 I think as Christians, we need to be really concerned about the fact that an unexamined 51:45.400 --> 51:48.800 given that we brought forward to say, well, we're all descended from Adam. 51:48.800 --> 51:50.800 So we're all exactly the same. 51:50.800 --> 51:53.680 And scientists for a long time were saying, no, that's not true at all. 51:53.680 --> 51:58.760 We have all these meaningful differences in our bodies, in our genes that have profound 51:58.760 --> 52:00.720 physical consequences. 52:00.720 --> 52:05.920 Now, suddenly, the doctors, the so-called experts, are denying those things, and they're 52:05.920 --> 52:09.400 using the same rationale as the Christians. 52:09.400 --> 52:13.320 As we've said before, that should really concern you, because they're going to get people 52:13.320 --> 52:17.160 killed by lying, lies cause harm. 52:17.160 --> 52:18.960 They always cause harm. 52:18.960 --> 52:23.080 And the fact that doctors are now lying about tastes acts, and they're lying about sickle 52:23.080 --> 52:30.520 cell anemia, is done in the name of anti-racism, it's saying, well, we can't possibly differentiate 52:30.520 --> 52:34.280 or distinguish, so we must say we're all the same. 52:34.280 --> 52:38.840 And then you have people suffering and dying from genetic diseases that are derived specifically 52:38.840 --> 52:43.440 from their race, because a doctor will say, well, you're human, I can't tell. 52:43.440 --> 52:48.360 You have no specific risk profile, you're just a human being. 52:48.360 --> 52:51.880 That's a lie that does harm, and it's a moral matter. 52:51.880 --> 52:56.120 These things are moral matters, they're not simply scientific inquiry. 52:56.120 --> 53:01.960 We've danced a little bit around a point that I should probably make more explicit. 53:01.960 --> 53:07.800 When it comes to the percentage of your DNA that comes from certain ancestors, if you 53:07.800 --> 53:13.320 have very little DNA from someone who has seven or eight generations back, and that could 53:13.320 --> 53:19.400 very likely be the case, you are still, so long as all of those individuals married within 53:19.400 --> 53:24.680 your particular ethnic group, related to the other people in your ethnic group in a web 53:24.680 --> 53:31.560 of relations, because of course there is a great pool of shared genetic material in that 53:31.560 --> 53:33.760 particular group. 53:33.760 --> 53:40.920 And so you will be more related to any randomly chosen member of that group than a member 53:40.920 --> 53:43.600 of another group somewhere else in the world. 53:43.600 --> 53:51.600 And so for instance, if you are descended from the Dutch, living in the US, you're descended 53:51.600 --> 53:52.600 from the Dutch. 53:52.600 --> 53:58.480 If you went to the Netherlands, you would be more related to any random Dutchman you found 53:58.480 --> 54:03.800 than if you were to go to Africa and pick anyone in Africa. 54:03.800 --> 54:10.360 And this shows up in a couple of places in the same sort of vein as the medical issues. 54:10.360 --> 54:15.760 If you are descended from Japheth, which is say if you are white, if you are European, 54:15.760 --> 54:20.480 and you marry someone from Africa, which is to say someone descended from him, your children 54:20.480 --> 54:23.600 are effectively not related to you. 54:23.600 --> 54:29.000 Because their DNA is so different from yours that you are more closely related to any random 54:29.000 --> 54:35.440 person from your nation of origin than you are to your own child. 54:35.440 --> 54:41.120 And the reason this starts to cause problems is because if you need a bone marrow transplant 54:41.120 --> 54:46.600 or an organ transplant or any of a number of treatments, you will not be compatible. 54:46.600 --> 54:51.240 The odds of you being a compatible donor for your child are basically zero. 54:51.240 --> 54:55.840 The odds of you finding a compatible donor are also extremely low. 54:55.840 --> 54:59.600 So there are very real consequences of this in the real world. 54:59.600 --> 55:03.760 This is not something you can deny and just ignore it and hope for the best. 55:03.760 --> 55:08.640 Because if you ignore these things, there's a very real chance those consequences will occur 55:08.640 --> 55:13.000 and there's nothing you can do about it at that point. 55:13.000 --> 55:21.600 And so another issue for disease frequency is that you do actually see more diseases crop 55:21.600 --> 55:26.920 up in those who have a mixed lineage than those who do not. 55:26.920 --> 55:34.520 And so that is a consideration for Christians because what you have from your ancestors 55:34.520 --> 55:37.480 is what was given to you by God. 55:37.480 --> 55:42.080 And so you are supposed to pass that on to your children. 55:42.080 --> 55:49.800 You can, through poor decisions, steal from the next generation through your selfish decisions. 55:49.800 --> 55:52.320 And that is a moral consideration. 55:52.320 --> 55:54.680 And so these are things that Christians have to take into account. 55:54.680 --> 55:59.880 We do not simply get to ignore this issue because it makes us uncomfortable or because the 55:59.880 --> 56:02.280 world tells us that we should ignore it. 56:02.280 --> 56:05.960 And we have this happening today as was mentioned as well mentioned. 56:05.960 --> 56:11.000 We have doctors who will pretend that these problems don't exist. 56:11.000 --> 56:15.800 But oh, there's no predictive ability of your genetic ancestry, of your racial ancestry. 56:15.800 --> 56:18.080 And that's just a lie. 56:18.080 --> 56:20.240 But we've actually moved on from that. 56:20.240 --> 56:26.000 We're now on the next step down or up the Marxist ladder, whichever way you want to think of it. 56:26.000 --> 56:31.920 I guess down given the destination, we now have doctors and others denying the reality 56:31.920 --> 56:35.240 of sex. 56:35.240 --> 56:39.520 And the reason for that is that as said, it's just the next step on the ladder. 56:39.520 --> 56:45.800 It makes perfect sense in the Marxist timeline in their plan to go from denying the reality 56:45.800 --> 56:49.960 of human race to denying the reality of sex. 56:49.960 --> 56:55.360 Because if you're not really any particular race, you don't have an ethnic origin, that's 56:55.360 --> 56:56.360 genetic. 56:56.360 --> 56:57.640 Well, so is sex. 56:57.640 --> 57:00.720 Sex is also genetically determined again. 57:00.720 --> 57:05.560 Women have two X chromosomes, men have an X and a Y. 57:05.560 --> 57:10.520 And we see this coming up in the medical field and others where there are doctors now who 57:10.520 --> 57:17.600 recommend a scan for a variant cancer for a man who's claiming to be a woman. 57:17.600 --> 57:25.640 Or they won't do a check for prostate cancer in a man who's claiming to be a woman. 57:25.640 --> 57:27.440 Biology doesn't care what you claim to be. 57:27.440 --> 57:32.960 If you are a man, if you were born a man, you have a prostate and you can get prostate 57:32.960 --> 57:33.960 cancer. 57:33.960 --> 57:36.200 Or you will, if you live long enough. 57:36.200 --> 57:41.400 So that is something for which you have to screen, because that is a biological reality. 57:41.400 --> 57:43.200 The same plays out with regard to race. 57:43.200 --> 57:48.560 There are biological realities that flow from race and have to be considered, or real 57:48.560 --> 57:50.760 harm is caused. 57:50.760 --> 57:55.120 As we mentioned earlier, none of this is a denial that we're all the same species. 57:55.120 --> 58:01.920 One of the definitions of a species that's typically accepted taxonomically for any creature 58:01.920 --> 58:09.160 is the ability to interbreed if two creatures can reproduce viable offspring that themselves 58:09.160 --> 58:10.560 can reproduce. 58:10.560 --> 58:11.560 They're typically considered. 58:11.560 --> 58:15.160 That's one of the measures by which you determine if it's the same species. 58:15.160 --> 58:21.680 It is absolutely true that a European and an African can reproduce and can reproduce viable 58:21.680 --> 58:25.000 offspring, which themselves can reproduce. 58:25.000 --> 58:33.320 However, when you look at the fertility rates across all the various populations, the peak 58:33.320 --> 58:40.640 fertility for how related you are to someone is actually in about the fourth cousin. 58:40.640 --> 58:45.520 So that's not simply talking about another white person if you're European. 58:45.520 --> 58:48.480 And it's not simply talking about another German. 58:48.480 --> 58:53.040 It means if you're German, it means someone who lives in the same town as you probably, 58:53.120 --> 58:59.480 maybe the next town over, but someone that you potentially would see at a family reunion. 58:59.480 --> 59:03.880 Now a fourth cousin is a fairly distant cousin, but it's close enough that you may well 59:03.880 --> 59:09.000 know their name, particularly if you're blessed to live in a community which really doesn't 59:09.000 --> 59:12.840 exist anywhere where you would keep in contact. 59:12.840 --> 59:17.560 There's a theological import to the fact that fourth cousins have the highest rate of 59:17.560 --> 59:18.880 fecundity. 59:18.880 --> 59:21.960 That's not trivial. 59:21.960 --> 59:24.320 Children are a blessing from God. 59:24.320 --> 59:29.920 And that which is blessed is that which is most desirous from God. 59:29.920 --> 59:34.000 He doesn't bless things that he finds to be evil, not in the same way. 59:34.000 --> 59:35.000 He blesses things. 59:35.000 --> 59:36.400 He finds to be good. 59:36.400 --> 59:41.520 And so if fourth cousins are the peak fecundity, that what that means is that if you marry 59:41.520 --> 59:48.000 a first or second cousin, you're less likely to reproduce for any given event of marriage. 59:48.000 --> 59:51.200 If you're looking at a sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth cousin or someone who's a complete 59:51.200 --> 59:56.920 stranger from the other side of the world, the fertility rate falls off significantly. 59:56.920 --> 59:57.920 That's not random. 59:57.920 --> 01:00:04.120 And I think one of the problems that humans have and Christians have when dealing with 01:00:04.120 --> 01:00:10.880 questions of genetics is the question of randomness because we can't see the inputs. 01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:11.880 Well we can see his behavior. 01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.280 We can see a person, a person, b, we can see their behavior. 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.200 And then we can see the outcomes of sort of a high level. 01:00:19.200 --> 01:00:27.240 There's so much apparent randomness in what happens with genetic admixture that is imperceptible 01:00:27.240 --> 01:00:33.920 to the human mind and in many cases, simply uncalculable that we tend to disregard it as 01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.040 being inconsequential. 01:00:36.040 --> 01:00:41.360 And I think that as Christians, the reality that we should focus on is that God knows 01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.240 what's going on at these levels. 01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:51.800 When God gave Adam 46 chromosomes, He knew the contents of every single gene in there. 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:53.200 He knew all of it. 01:00:53.200 --> 01:00:54.640 There are 30,000 odd genes. 01:00:54.640 --> 01:00:56.280 He knew what was in each of them. 01:00:56.280 --> 01:01:00.280 He chose them specifically for specific purposes. 01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:05.520 When He brought Eve from out of Adam's body, Eve was a fully formed woman. 01:01:05.520 --> 01:01:09.760 What that meant was that she probably had in the order of hundreds of thousands, maybe 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:13.480 million or so eggs inside her body. 01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:17.400 One thing that a lot of people don't know is that when a little girl is born, she has 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.720 as many eggs as she's ever going to have in her entire life. 01:01:20.720 --> 01:01:23.960 Eggs are not reproduced during the life of a person. 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:28.560 They're produced at a germ level in utero. 01:01:28.560 --> 01:01:32.000 And then they die off throughout the person's life, the girl's life. 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.760 And they're also shed once ovulation begins. 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:37.520 And so a girl is born. 01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:41.720 She's conceived initially as something like six or seven million of what could potentially 01:01:41.720 --> 01:01:43.640 become OVA. 01:01:43.640 --> 01:01:47.640 By the time of birth, there's about 300,000 give or take. 01:01:47.640 --> 01:01:56.240 By the time she begins to reach sexual maturity, she's lost about 10,000 of those every month. 01:01:56.240 --> 01:01:59.560 And then one or two are shed every month through ovulation. 01:01:59.560 --> 01:02:03.080 And then at menopause, basically the system shuts down because the eggs are basically 01:02:03.080 --> 01:02:04.240 exhausted. 01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:06.240 So there's a finite amount of them. 01:02:06.240 --> 01:02:09.120 They God creates when He creates life. 01:02:09.120 --> 01:02:10.120 And then they're depleted. 01:02:10.120 --> 01:02:14.360 And that's the end of the girl's reproductive life, it's not the end of her life. 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:19.160 But it's the end of her life as someone who can potentially reproduce. 01:02:19.160 --> 01:02:21.320 Men sort of work in the opposite direction. 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.480 We don't really begin producing sperm until puberty. 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:30.280 And then we produce millions a day until long after we're likely to ever be reproducing. 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:37.200 And so God has architected our bodies in different ways to achieve His ends. 01:02:37.200 --> 01:02:39.560 But it seems random to us. 01:02:39.560 --> 01:02:41.320 It's not random to God. 01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:49.080 And so the fact that fourth cousins are the most likely to be blessed by reproducing successfully 01:02:49.080 --> 01:02:53.280 is itself, I believe, a theological conclusion. 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:57.840 It points to the fact that marrying not only within your own race, like we're not just 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:03.120 talking about white people, Mary white people, Asians, Mary Asians. 01:03:03.120 --> 01:03:08.600 It's a question of, as Corey said, how closely related are you to someone? 01:03:08.600 --> 01:03:14.560 Because when you're looking, if you need a bone marrow match or a kidney donor or something, 01:03:14.560 --> 01:03:17.120 it's not simply another European that's going to do the job. 01:03:17.120 --> 01:03:22.000 They're not closely related enough because we said these are concentric circles. 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:28.160 You need someone who has a very similar ancestry to your own to have the chance, the random 01:03:28.160 --> 01:03:32.440 chance from a human perspective, but it's not random, it's up to God. 01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:37.000 All of these things are passed down through time and God acts in time to produce each of 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.920 us in a particular way. 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:44.000 I'm about 75% English give or take and about 20% German. 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:48.560 So someone else with a similar ancestry is my relative. 01:03:48.720 --> 01:03:53.600 If they came from Kent and they came from Saxony, we're closely related. 01:03:53.600 --> 01:04:00.120 More so than someone, even someone who might be Spanish, I would be more closely related 01:04:00.120 --> 01:04:05.600 to a random Englishman who was 20% Dutch than to a Spaniard by virtue of the fact that 01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:09.200 these things group over time and tend to cluster. 01:04:09.200 --> 01:04:15.360 And again, if you've listened to us thus far, at no point have we said anything hateful, 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.960 rather than saying that human beings are created by God differently. 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:23.160 And the fact that the world is now saying that that itself is hateful should be a cause 01:04:23.160 --> 01:04:28.840 for great concern for Christians because it flies in the face of Scripture. 01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:33.960 It flies in the face of the truth of what we discover when we look at these facts. 01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:36.280 Why is that lie so important? 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:40.920 Because when Satan authored, he had something in mind and when Christians are parroting 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:48.720 that lie, we need to be more wily and more concerned about what the final goal of such 01:04:48.720 --> 01:04:50.120 a lie is. 01:04:50.120 --> 01:04:55.200 And when we repeat them, when we say it's just skin color, skins, it's only skin deep, 01:04:55.200 --> 01:04:59.960 one race to human race, these bumper sticker tropes that make people feel better. 01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:03.040 And maybe it's a good way to tamp down some disagreement that the two people have in 01:05:03.040 --> 01:05:06.320 the moment and you say, look, you know, this is a Noah family reunion. 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.400 You guys need to just get along. 01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:10.560 People should get along. 01:05:10.560 --> 01:05:14.800 They should get along peacefully, but it shouldn't be done in terms that cause us to have 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.480 to lie to get there. 01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:17.800 That's not what God desires. 01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:24.200 He desires us to be peaceful, even in the face of things that are maybe not desirable, 01:05:24.200 --> 01:05:26.320 but we don't lie to get there. 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:30.360 And when we lie about race, as Cory said, it's an attack on the creator. 01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:35.720 If you lie about how you were created, you were lying about he who created you. 01:05:35.720 --> 01:05:38.760 And he who created you is he who redeemed you. 01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:43.600 And we'll talk a lot more about that in the second episode, but again, these are these 01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:47.520 are theological questions that manifest in space and time. 01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:52.280 And the fact that they're all seen particularly lately through this Marxist lens, where again, 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.240 they don't want to talk about what race is. 01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:57.280 They just want to talk about it as a weapon. 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:02.760 We has Christians must get away from accepting their frame and looking at the actual ground 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:07.440 truth of these matters because failure to do that is setting us up for failure because 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:12.920 whatever lie you want to adopt, Satan has a step two or a step three for that lie. 01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.840 He knows what the next move is, even if we don't. 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:20.040 And that's why it's so important to guard ourselves up front against not repeating some 01:06:20.040 --> 01:06:22.120 of these deceptions. 01:06:22.120 --> 01:06:27.760 To go back for a second to something we said earlier, to give people a hard numbers 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:33.360 and some will not be familiar with this, when we say that human beings, one human being 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:41.520 to another is going to be somewhere between 98 and 99.9% the same genetically. 01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:47.480 Human beings have three billion base pairs roughly in our genomes. 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:53.600 So a difference of one tenth of one percent is three million base pairs. 01:06:53.600 --> 01:06:55.640 This is not a trivial difference. 01:06:55.640 --> 01:06:59.800 It sounds like a small difference until you realize the scale of the thing about which 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.640 we are talking. 01:07:01.640 --> 01:07:06.080 And so when you're dealing with three billion base pairs, that one tenth of one percent 01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:12.880 difference is significant, particularly given the rate of mutations that occur over time. 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:19.280 When we talked about race being skin deep, there was a scientific study that was done 01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:20.880 about a year and a half ago. 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:29.520 It was done by someone, a doctor who was basically employing what is called artificial intelligence 01:07:29.520 --> 01:07:36.240 to X-rays to make conclusions related to healthcare outcomes, basically trying to determine 01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:42.360 with a whole bunch of X-rays of people's chests and various other body parts to make sure 01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:48.040 that as it was going through their machinery, they would be giving them the desired outputs 01:07:48.040 --> 01:07:50.520 and not undesirable ones. 01:07:50.520 --> 01:07:56.040 And this person is diametrically opposed to us in terms of politics. 01:07:56.040 --> 01:08:00.880 In fact, I actually had trouble finding the thread earlier today because the screenshot 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:03.600 that I had of the thread was from a doctor Luke. 01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:05.800 And now he's, I think, Dr. Laura. 01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.240 The guy who did this is now pretending to be a woman. 01:08:09.240 --> 01:08:12.440 So that gives you some idea where he is on the political spectrum. 01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:18.880 And yet, what he found in the paper that he and some other authors did was that when 01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:25.120 they fed these X-rays into their artificial intelligence algorithm, it was able to determine 01:08:25.200 --> 01:08:29.360 the race of the patient, even when that was never the question asked. 01:08:29.360 --> 01:08:34.960 Now, the race that they were using wasn't anything based on genetics, it was simply self-identified. 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:40.440 If the patient said on the form, I'm white, I'm black, whatever, that was what they correlated 01:08:40.440 --> 01:08:42.440 back to the images. 01:08:42.440 --> 01:08:46.400 Now, the important thing is that they never told the computer anything about any of the 01:08:46.400 --> 01:08:47.440 racial data. 01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:52.120 They just said, here are a bunch of chest X-rays, can you divide them up? 01:08:52.120 --> 01:08:58.280 What they found was that with a clear chest X-ray, the machinery, the computer algorithm 01:08:58.280 --> 01:09:04.720 with 99% accuracy was able to determine if someone was European African or Asian. 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:10.920 Let me say that again, looking at a chest X-ray, the computer could tell if you were European 01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:13.960 African or Asian, no other information. 01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.680 Now, the authors completely freaked out because they're like, oh my God, the computer's 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.280 racist, what do we do? 01:09:19.280 --> 01:09:21.840 Because they were thinking the same thing, a lot of you were thinking, the race isn't 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:26.280 real, we're all one race, the human race, and if these computers are finding this race 01:09:26.280 --> 01:09:30.800 stuff in these images, we're in real trouble. 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:33.760 Now I said artificial intelligence because that's the term that's used, but it's really 01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:36.160 a nonsense term. 01:09:36.160 --> 01:09:40.640 What these specific computer algorithms do is simply pattern matching. 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:46.800 They look at a collection of data, whether it's images or sounds or whatever, and they 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:54.760 measure the probability with which one thing is likely to be similar to another. 01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.640 So when I say pattern matching, when you match a pattern as a person, maybe I show you a 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:03.920 red ball, and I show you a blue ball, and ask you are they the same, and you would say, 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:07.880 well, they're the same shape, but they're not the same color, what do you mean by same? 01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:11.080 If I showed you a red ball and a red ball, and ask you are the same, the pattern, but 01:10:11.080 --> 01:10:16.280 yeah, they're the same, maybe the size varies, but the shape and the color are the same. 01:10:16.280 --> 01:10:20.040 So when a human pattern matches, it's based on particularity. 01:10:20.040 --> 01:10:24.560 Now we might generalize and just sort of a glance, say, those two things are similar. 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.120 The computers have no notion of ball. 01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:33.120 They have no concept of ballness or colorness, or any of the other aptitudes, the other qualities 01:10:33.120 --> 01:10:34.560 of the thing. 01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:40.960 All they're doing is saying image one is 83% consistent with image two, and that's literally 01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:41.960 it. 01:10:42.040 --> 01:10:48.120 So when they fed these chest x-rays and all the other x-rays into the hopper, it didn't 01:10:48.120 --> 01:10:51.320 know what an x-ray was, it didn't know what a skeleton was, it didn't know what a human 01:10:51.320 --> 01:10:57.400 was, all it knew was the some bones and some other bones, and it was still able to divide 01:10:57.400 --> 01:11:04.320 them with 99% accuracy into the bucket of European, African, and Asian. 01:11:04.320 --> 01:11:11.240 Now if you individually have ever said race is only skin deep, race is a social construct, 01:11:11.240 --> 01:11:13.200 how do you process that? 01:11:13.200 --> 01:11:18.320 How do you deal with the fact that an x-ray can show, and it wasn't a full body x-ray, 01:11:18.320 --> 01:11:23.280 it wasn't a skeleton, we'll get to skeletons in a moment, but when you just show a portion 01:11:23.280 --> 01:11:29.960 of individuals skeleton to a machine, it's able to tell what race they were. 01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:33.480 Part of the reason they was so shocking to the scientist was they didn't know was possible. 01:11:33.480 --> 01:11:39.440 It was a completely shocking revelation because no x-ray tech has ever been able to look 01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:44.160 at someone's chest x-ray, and that's a black guy, that's a white guy. 01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:48.280 It doesn't happen, and yet the computer, because it was able to see things the humans 01:11:48.280 --> 01:11:55.160 can't see, just in terms of statistical comparison, it said, yeah, these three buckets exist, 01:11:55.160 --> 01:11:59.840 and these three buckets have names, the humans have given them, which are races, major 01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:01.720 racial groups. 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:06.840 And the wildest part of this thing was it with perfectly clear x-rays, they were able 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:09.800 to do with 99% accuracy. 01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:14.280 They also used degraded x-rays, where they deleted more and more information, basically 01:12:14.280 --> 01:12:15.280 downresing it. 01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:20.680 So if you have a 4K picture, and you take it down to HD, and then you take it down to 01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:26.560 imagine the original iPhone with a 320x240 screen, and you take it even smaller than that, 01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:31.160 they found that the computer was still able to tell what the race was, even with a radically 01:12:31.160 --> 01:12:36.000 reduced resolution, which really blew their minds, because where is it getting the information? 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.320 And yet the consistent results were still over 90% accuracy. 01:12:40.320 --> 01:12:41.960 So they took it a step further. 01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:46.720 They took the original image, there was high definition, but they began to apply a random 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.240 noise filter to it. 01:12:48.240 --> 01:12:53.000 Now what that means is that they would randomly flip pixels black or white, and so what 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.600 you got was just a gray fuzz. 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.640 They were able to fuzz it to the point that the images themselves just look like gray 01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:00.640 squares. 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:04.960 So as a human being looking at it, not only you would know as an x-ray, you wouldn't 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:10.240 be able to tell one image from a part, from the other apart, and yet the algorithm was 01:13:10.240 --> 01:13:17.080 still able to tell with 90% accuracy that one image came from an African, another came 01:13:17.080 --> 01:13:20.560 from a European, and the third came from an Asian. 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:26.960 Now all this is to say is that race is so deeply and inextricably linked inside our bodies 01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:30.360 that it manifests in ways that we had no idea even existed. 01:13:30.360 --> 01:13:34.760 It wasn't until they fed all these images into the computer that anyone had any idea 01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:40.080 you could tell from a chest x-ray or a wrist x-ray what race someone was. 01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:43.920 There's never been any study that showed that before, which doesn't say it's false. 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:49.560 It was an absolutely true discovery, but it was completely unexpected and was unexpected 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:51.080 by people who were terrified. 01:13:51.080 --> 01:13:54.680 The paper that they wrote was basically, oh my god, the computer's racist. 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:56.760 How do we will lobotomize it? 01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:01.080 Because again, if there's one race, the human race, and yet the computer is saying this 01:14:01.080 --> 01:14:06.920 guy is white, this guy is Asian, if you deny race, you're going to be terrified of the 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:11.280 fact that the computer is reaching impermissible outcomes. 01:14:11.280 --> 01:14:16.680 And so it was a cause for hysteria, but I look at it and say, well, on one hand it's kind 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:20.840 of surprising how much it was intrinsic, but on the other hand, it's not surprising at 01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:21.840 all. 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:28.640 Because we know, as we pointed back in the albino example, facial structure, skull structure 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:30.880 is radically different. 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:37.200 There are intrinsic aspects of human beings that are distinctly categorized by race that 01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:38.800 have nothing to do with skin color. 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:43.880 They have nothing to do with anything except for, after thousands of years of variation, 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:49.080 of genetic variation, we've come out differently, which again is not a value judgment. 01:14:49.080 --> 01:14:52.480 It's just saying that we're different in observable ways. 01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:57.920 And as Christians, we should be able to say, yes, we're different in observable ways. 01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:01.920 Without feeling that that threatens anyone's salvation, or that it threatens the gospel 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:07.040 because it absolutely doesn't, what does threaten the gospel is lying about these things 01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:09.600 and that should be our chief concern. 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:16.000 So it's interesting that a machine would be able to pick out race from something that 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.560 for a human being looking at it, it would be effectively noise. 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:24.760 There would be essentially no signal there that would be discernible by us, and that 01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:28.560 was just with chest X-rays. 01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:36.120 Human beings can actually train human beings, obviously, can tell from skeletons the race 01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:43.640 and the sex of someone because there are very distinct formations the way the skeleton 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:48.120 is shaped, different densities, all sorts of things that you can tell. 01:15:48.120 --> 01:15:54.000 So you can tell the race and the sex of someone from a skeleton alone. 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:59.120 And we see this all the time, this is done all the time by anthropologists, by archaeologists, 01:15:59.120 --> 01:16:02.080 by those who are studying ancient civilizations. 01:16:02.080 --> 01:16:08.280 If you dig up a skeleton and you have the training, you can definitively say that was 01:16:08.280 --> 01:16:12.720 a European male between these ages. 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:17.120 And so obviously, yes, a computer can do this as well because a computer can do it from 01:16:17.120 --> 01:16:22.760 an X-ray that's downgraded to the point of being noise, but it's just further refutation 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.920 of those who would try to say that skin color is race or that race is skin color, that 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.360 it's skin deep, it's not. 01:16:31.360 --> 01:16:35.360 There are fundamental differences, and you can see that in the skeletal structure, you 01:16:35.360 --> 01:16:40.760 can see that in the biology, you can see that in, we'll get into in later episodes, behavior 01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.320 and other things. 01:16:43.320 --> 01:16:49.520 Race is a fundamental part of human nature, and that is by God's design, because of course 01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:52.560 human nature is God's design. 01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:57.600 And in the case of skeletons being dug up, this is actually an important part of forensics 01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:59.240 for police. 01:16:59.240 --> 01:17:04.840 If they discover a skeleton in a field or something for a person who's been dead for some time 01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:09.940 and there's no longer any distinguishing physical characteristics, they will call it, call 01:17:09.940 --> 01:17:16.000 in these experts, who can clearly determine the race, the sex. 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:21.800 And in some cases, even the age and perhaps the sort of life that the person led, one 01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:25.520 of the interesting things from anthropology when digging up older skeletons is that they 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:31.880 can tell, for example, or any skeleton, really, they can tell what sort of childhood and 01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:37.440 upbringing you had, they can determine the rate of your nutrition, were you being fed 01:17:37.440 --> 01:17:43.280 well, were you being underfed, they can tell if you let an active physical lifestyle. 01:17:43.280 --> 01:17:50.200 So if someone was engaged in strenuous physical activity, particularly as they are going 01:17:50.200 --> 01:17:53.880 through puberty, that actually affects your growth plates. 01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:59.640 So your bones will look different than someone who let a more sedentary life, which in the 01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:05.400 case of history will tend to indicate what cast someone fell into, what class, were they 01:18:05.400 --> 01:18:10.160 a laborer, were they a warrior, were they, you know, someone who lived in a castle and 01:18:10.160 --> 01:18:15.080 maybe they did those things for fun or for training, but not because it was life and 01:18:15.080 --> 01:18:16.080 death. 01:18:16.080 --> 01:18:21.840 So all of these things are manifest in our physical bodies and they're left long after 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:23.880 our skin has gone. 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:27.160 And this too has been become controversial recently. 01:18:27.160 --> 01:18:32.840 I was reading an account earlier today from a girl who was, I believe she was teaching 01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:41.120 a class related to the study of bones dug up by police to identify victims. 01:18:41.120 --> 01:18:46.240 And the professor who was supervising the class and the students lost their minds when 01:18:46.240 --> 01:18:53.240 she said that you can tell the race of someone by their skeleton, they went into a frenzy. 01:18:53.240 --> 01:18:58.640 They were so upset at the idea that you could tell the race of a person without looking 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:00.200 at their skin color. 01:19:00.200 --> 01:19:05.040 Now that's not the response of someone pursuing an academic truth. 01:19:05.040 --> 01:19:10.800 That's not the response of someone who has in their mind, I want to learn what is 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.160 real. 01:19:12.160 --> 01:19:14.120 That's a religious response. 01:19:14.120 --> 01:19:19.560 When you say something and people weep and they nash their teeth and they tear their 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:26.480 clothes and they howl, that is religious, that is a religious response to hearing blasphemy. 01:19:26.480 --> 01:19:31.760 And we're doing this episode because it's blasphemous, not against God, but discussing 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:39.000 race in these realistic terms is absolutely blasphemous to the spirit of this modern age, 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:44.440 which for a while, again, said yes, race was real when they were talking about evolution. 01:19:44.440 --> 01:19:49.640 But now that they're trying to collapse all of humanity back before the powtower of 01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:57.800 Babel into a single, seething mass of undifferentiated humanity with neither sex nor race nor 01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:04.120 any distinguishing characteristics apart from being a consumer, the spirit of this age 01:20:04.120 --> 01:20:08.880 is in opposition to telling the truth about these things now. 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:14.240 And unfortunately, most Christians are behind the ape all because we have not seriously 01:20:14.240 --> 01:20:19.480 engaged in the question because the origins of something, we've talked many times about 01:20:19.480 --> 01:20:27.240 the genealogy of ideas and I've tried to focus when we discuss that on the genealogy is 01:20:27.240 --> 01:20:32.320 not simply from whence it came, but what was the original motivation of whoever was coming 01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:33.640 up with it? 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:38.080 Now race has always been understood by human beings. 01:20:38.080 --> 01:20:39.440 It's found throughout scripture. 01:20:39.440 --> 01:20:43.080 We've talked about that in the two previous episodes I mentioned. 01:20:43.080 --> 01:20:48.120 The differentiation between the races has become greater and greater over time as we left 01:20:48.120 --> 01:20:52.720 Mount Anorayarat and finally filled the earth as God commanded. 01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:59.080 There's far more diversity genetically today than there was 500 years after Mount Erad 01:20:59.080 --> 01:21:04.120 was as Chorus mentioning that's simply how mutation works and that is how the migration 01:21:04.120 --> 01:21:08.320 of these genes back and forth among people as they reproduce works. 01:21:08.320 --> 01:21:14.880 That's not contrary to God's plan and you can see in Revelation 7-9 that all the nations 01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:20.080 are gathered around the throne and when John was looking at them, he could tell what 01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:21.080 race they were. 01:21:21.080 --> 01:21:23.720 He could tell that they were from the various nations. 01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:29.280 So that goes back to the gnostic element of this denial of the flesh. 01:21:29.280 --> 01:21:34.560 It is fundamentally gnostic for us to say, oh, we're all just spirits, we'll get a new 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.880 body that won't be anything like this body we have now. 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:39.960 That's utterly blasphemous. 01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:45.080 God created you personally, exactly as he intended you to be. 01:21:45.080 --> 01:21:52.240 Now what came out of your mother's womb is indeed injured by sin and degradation. 01:21:52.240 --> 01:21:57.480 When God raises us from the dead, all of those degradations, all of the genetic deformities, 01:21:57.480 --> 01:22:02.400 all the defects will be washed away, nothing will be present that isn't perfect. 01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:06.880 But the imperfections that are washed away will not include the race that we are because 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.480 that is absolutely a part of God's perfect plan. 01:22:10.480 --> 01:22:15.160 It's part of the plan in Acts 1726 when he describes the nations being given the boundaries 01:22:15.160 --> 01:22:20.560 of their dwelling places and it's present in Revelation 7-9 before the throne of God, 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:26.200 in all the nations of the world, of every color, of every appearance, of every language 01:22:26.200 --> 01:22:31.800 gather before the throne of God, which means that they are perfected in the languages 01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:36.720 and the physical bodies that they were given in this life. 01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:40.640 The race that you're given is the race that you will always be. 01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:46.680 And if you despise that, you need to be seriously concerned because if you're despising how 01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:54.840 God created you, the damter resurrected too, there's no annihilationism in Scripture. 01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:59.920 Every dead man will be raised on the last day and the sheep are then separated from the 01:22:59.920 --> 01:23:00.920 goats. 01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:07.960 So those who deny their race and deny their creator as a result of it and deny the resurrection 01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:12.600 of the body by saying, well, I'm not going to be raised as a white man or as a Japanese 01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:19.040 man or as a Ugandan, I'm just going to be raised as something new. 01:23:19.040 --> 01:23:21.640 You're flirting with damnation and God will sort that out. 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:26.720 I'm not saying that you're not saved if you say those things, but I am saying that you 01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:31.880 were saying to God, I hate what you made, I want to be something different. 01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:37.200 That is not a confession that any of us should seek to take before the throne of God. 01:23:37.200 --> 01:23:43.160 When Christ died for each of us and his blood covers our sins and washes our robes white 01:23:43.160 --> 01:23:48.920 in his blood, that is for every man who has ever descended from Adam, but only the robes 01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:52.280 of those who confess Christ will receive that. 01:23:52.280 --> 01:23:56.760 And confessing Christ means confessing how He created us. 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:59.680 We were created through Him, we were redeemed through Him. 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:01.880 We will be resurrected with Him. 01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:09.120 And if we take a hatred of self and a hatred of creation to judgment day, that's a sin 01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:11.200 that we need to repent for as well. 01:24:11.200 --> 01:24:16.080 And denial of race and denial of these truths is a sin. 01:24:16.080 --> 01:24:21.060 Even though there are some who use these truths for evil ends, that does not make the 01:24:21.060 --> 01:24:25.840 truths themselves evil, that makes the truths themselves the truth. 01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:31.280 Truth can be a weapon, truth can do harm or can do good, but you do not solve the harm 01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:35.080 that can be done by a truth by denying that it's true. 01:24:35.080 --> 01:24:39.920 And as Christians, we have no choice but to engage first in truth and then to approach 01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:42.280 and love all that which is true. 01:24:42.280 --> 01:24:44.600 So is the future episodes common? 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:47.920 We go into more detail on the spiritual aspects of this. 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:55.280 I want everyone to keep in mind that this is not some side show. 01:24:55.280 --> 01:24:59.320 We can see in the world how much race matters to Satan. 01:24:59.320 --> 01:25:02.600 And if it matters to Satan, it must matter to Christians. 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:10.120 And until we've done this episode, I'm not aware of any serious discussion among Christians 01:25:10.120 --> 01:25:15.280 that had any depth or clarity, they would address these issues in a way that's going to 01:25:15.280 --> 01:25:19.640 be blasphemous to the world, but yet consistent with Scripture. 01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:24.080 And I hope that there will be more Christians who will begin to study and think and engage 01:25:24.160 --> 01:25:29.920 in this way because I think that the time is growing short for the church. 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.480 And I think that we should be prepared to give a defense for everything, including creation 01:25:33.480 --> 01:25:34.480 itself. 01:25:34.480 --> 01:25:38.680 So I'd encourage everyone to please look at the show notes, look at the all the different 01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:39.680 links we'll have there. 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:41.360 This is probably more than most. 01:25:41.360 --> 01:25:45.640 I would like to mention one of the websites that we're going to link to is from an old 01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.600 friend from Twitter Thuletide. 01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:51.720 He's not a Christian, he is an old earth evolutionist. 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:58.680 So many of the things that he says you will find offensive for some of the conclusions. 01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:02.920 The reason that we're going to link to him is that he's honest. 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:06.840 There are some things that are said within the right wings, fear on Twitter that are based 01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:12.560 on race that he will also refute to the right when it doesn't agree with the facts. 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:15.920 I don't know his background, but I can tell from reading him for many years. 01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:18.920 He's a very smart guy and he really knows this stuff. 01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:24.640 And so we're going to link to him because he has a number of one-on-one articles that 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:28.080 go down some of the fallacies are involved in this subject. 01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:31.520 Many things you may well believe now, we've refuted a few of them, but there are plenty 01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:32.680 of others. 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.720 So as you look at that again, I would encourage you to try to separate the Wii from the 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:38.280 Traff. 01:26:38.280 --> 01:26:42.480 There will be things on the webpage that I will tell you right now, some of the conclusions 01:26:42.480 --> 01:26:47.040 particularly around the timelines, saying that these things took Conards of Thousands 01:26:47.040 --> 01:26:48.560 of Years. 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:49.640 Those are false. 01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:52.720 That does not mean that the data itself is false. 01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:57.680 And so as you look through it, I hope you'll find some value as a Christian in synthesizing 01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:02.480 what you know from scripture from the facts that are found within your own body. 01:27:02.480 --> 01:27:06.120 Because those pages are about you too, they're about the stuff that's inside you. 01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:08.840 They're how God made you, they're how God made each of us. 01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:12.000 And that's something that we should know about and we should give thanks for. 01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:13.760 And we cannot deny. 01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:18.560 And so it is because of our love and our thanks for God and how he's done these things 01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:22.840 in our lives, they were doing these episodes because it's a challenging subject. 01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:27.680 And frankly, just discussing race is enough for people to try to dox and destroy you. 01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:32.040 As recording this right now, there's a massive campaign to dox us and to get us expelled 01:27:32.040 --> 01:27:37.200 from our churches for saying these things, which are not hateful, they're simply truthful. 01:27:37.200 --> 01:27:42.480 But the fact that that elicits so much hate, I think is itself that this is a really 01:27:42.480 --> 01:27:46.600 big deal for Satan and his Christians needs to be something that we at least give 01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:50.200 due consideration as well because souls are on the line. 01:27:50.200 --> 01:27:56.600 Yes, as we record, I know there are people who are attempting to harass my pastor. 01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:01.760 But at any rate, to address an issue that I know will come up for some people, there's 01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:05.360 the question of how Marxism plays into this. 01:28:05.360 --> 01:28:10.640 Because I know some will think, well, Marxists deny that race is real. 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:11.640 And that's true. 01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:12.960 They do that today. 01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:17.000 But you have to realize, as we mentioned in previous episodes, you can go back to the 01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:21.800 immediately previous episode, Marxism is a mercenary ideology. 01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:24.000 It is ends seeking. 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:31.000 It has no actual core when it comes to principles or anything like that. 01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:35.760 And so there is no standard to which you can hold it. 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:40.000 It has a goal in mind, and it will do whatever it takes to reach that goal, of course, 01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:41.000 the goal is unobtainable. 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:46.200 It's a utopia, which for those who know a little bit of Greek know that utopia means not 01:28:46.200 --> 01:28:47.520 a place. 01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.880 That's why it's a joke. 01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:55.840 But the early Marxist theorists, including Marx, were all very firmly in the race-realist 01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.160 camp. 01:28:58.160 --> 01:29:03.720 I have a number of quotes here I'm looking at from Marx, and he at the very least addresses 01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:08.160 the German, the Jewish, and I will say the African, because I am not going to use the 01:29:08.160 --> 01:29:12.280 word that he did, races. 01:29:12.280 --> 01:29:18.520 And so you have race realism from them in the beginning, and you have an explicit argument 01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:23.720 from the Marxist theorists that you have to destroy these distinctions. 01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:32.240 Because the goal is a creation of an undifferentiated global humanity, without borders, without differences, 01:29:32.240 --> 01:29:37.040 all of one class, of course, is all impossible to achieve. 01:29:37.040 --> 01:29:42.080 But that's the goal, and because it's what we said earlier in the episode, in this episode, 01:29:42.080 --> 01:29:43.360 it's babble. 01:29:43.360 --> 01:29:46.760 They want to remake babble. 01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:50.760 Their goals are wicked, and they will do whatever it takes to get there. 01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:54.640 Early on, they affirm the races, because they will have to affirm the reality in order 01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:57.080 to argue that they need to be destroyed. 01:29:57.080 --> 01:30:01.640 Now that they have made some progress toward the ends of destruction, they argue they don't 01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:08.640 exist, and so you shouldn't do anything that recognizes that you have a racial identity 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:13.320 that you're a member of a nation, because they want to deny the reality of God's good 01:30:13.320 --> 01:30:20.080 creation and restore the wickedness of babble. 01:30:20.080 --> 01:30:21.080 That is the end goal. 01:30:21.080 --> 01:30:25.320 The end goal is rebellion against God in subversion. 01:30:25.320 --> 01:30:28.600 That is what all of this is, and that is why we are discussing the issue. 01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:34.240 We discuss these issues, because Christians have to know where the battlefield is, and 01:30:34.240 --> 01:30:39.280 what is being fought, the issues over which we are actually fighting. 01:30:39.280 --> 01:30:43.200 Because if you're standing on a different battlefield, where the enemy isn't there, 01:30:43.200 --> 01:30:46.360 it doesn't matter what you do, you've lost. 01:30:46.360 --> 01:30:49.400 Because the enemy is attacking the other side of the city. 01:30:49.400 --> 01:30:52.560 And that is why we will keep harping on issues like this. 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:57.440 We will keep addressing these issues, because these are the things that are important. 01:30:57.440 --> 01:31:02.560 If they do not get addressed, if Christians do not realize the reality of what is happening, 01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:07.920 of what the enemy is doing, then it doesn't matter how true you believe you are being, 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:11.160 to scripture, to the faith, to God. 01:31:11.160 --> 01:31:16.560 Because you are not opposing the things that Satan is attacking, you are not defending 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.200 where Satan is attacking you. 01:31:19.200 --> 01:31:21.960 And that is what we want Christians to do. 01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:23.320 The church has to be defended. 01:31:23.320 --> 01:31:26.560 That is one of the duties of a Christian man is to defend the church. 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.200 To defend his family. 01:31:29.200 --> 01:31:33.600 And you cannot do that if you do not understand the enemy, if you do not know when the enemy 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.920 is going to attack and where he is attacking. 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:39.160 That is why we address these issues. 01:31:39.160 --> 01:31:43.160 We don't address the issue because we're obsessed with it because we find it particularly 01:31:43.160 --> 01:31:45.840 interesting or anything like that. 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:50.320 If not for the fact that the enemy is attacking here, we probably wouldn't dedicate any time 01:31:50.320 --> 01:31:52.600 to this stuff. 01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:57.560 But because the enemy is attacking it, because Christians are caught on aware, that is why 01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:00.760 we are addressing these issues. 01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:05.560 And so we need you to listen carefully to what it is we're saying and what it is we 01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:07.400 are not saying. 01:32:07.400 --> 01:32:12.120 To read through the materials in the show notes if you need the additional context. 01:32:12.120 --> 01:32:15.440 And yes, if you still have questions, please do send those. 01:32:15.440 --> 01:32:19.480 We are reading them, we do, we know we have a backlog of them, we will address them 01:32:19.480 --> 01:32:23.680 as we have time and as they come up. 01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:29.480 But it is important for Christians to understand what is going on in the world. 01:32:29.480 --> 01:32:35.360 You are not called simply to be as harmless as a dove, but also to be as wise as a serpent. 01:32:35.360 --> 01:32:37.560 And this is part of that. 01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:41.560 So pay careful attention, do your homework and ask questions.