Transcript: Episode 0005

“A Name No Man Knows”

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00:00:00 – 00:00:09:	What about success?

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00:00:28 – 00:00:43:	Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast, I am Corey J. Moller, and I'm Woe.

00:00:43 – 00:00:50:	In this episode we will be discussing anonymity, pseudonymity, and a number of related issues.

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00:02:29 – 00:02:34:	So today's episode is going to be about a topic that we've had in mind for a while.

00:02:34 – 00:02:40:	It has come to the fore with recent events that have spilled out on Twitter and elsewhere.

00:02:40 – 00:02:47:	The subject is pseudonymity or anonymity versus men who use their full Christian names when

00:02:47 – 00:02:50:	they speak online.

00:02:50 – 00:02:56:	When people describe us as anonymous, or most people online as anonymous, it's really

00:02:56 – 00:02:57:	a mismanumer.

00:02:57 – 00:03:01:	To be anonymous is to have no attribution whatsoever.

00:03:01 – 00:03:07:	The definition of anonymous is nameless, wanting a name without the real name of the author.

00:03:07 – 00:03:12:	So for example, if someone leaves a pamphlet on your windshield and there's no attribution

00:03:12 – 00:03:16:	whatsoever, it doesn't say what group it's from or any sort of byline, that's anonymous.

00:03:16 – 00:03:18:	You have no idea where it came from.

00:03:18 – 00:03:23:	On the other hand, if there's a copyright statement or there's some sort of group name or

00:03:23 – 00:03:27:	maybe it says Publius or something, that's a pseudonym.

00:03:27 – 00:03:29:	That's not their legal name.

00:03:29 – 00:03:34:	It's not necessarily a specific person that you can attribute it to, but you can attribute

00:03:34 – 00:03:38:	it in generally what they have said to their identity.

00:03:38 – 00:03:41:	So I, for example, am not anonymous.

00:03:41 – 00:03:43:	I have never been anonymous online.

00:03:43 – 00:03:44:	I am pseudonymous.

00:03:44 – 00:03:49:	I've had multiple aliases over the years, not because I was up to anything sketchy, but

00:03:49 – 00:03:52:	frankly, I kept getting banned from Twitter.

00:03:52 – 00:03:57:	And so when I came back, I had to change my name or I would immediately get rebanned.

00:03:57 – 00:04:02:	And that's an interesting part of all of this because when most people hear I was banned

00:04:02 – 00:04:06:	from Twitter, your immediate thought is, well, you know, he must have done something

00:04:06 – 00:04:07:	to deserve it.

00:04:07 – 00:04:12:	He must have been a real jerk or he used terrible language or he was abusive or something.

00:04:12 – 00:04:16:	You know, obviously, if I was banned, I must have deserved it somehow.

00:04:16 – 00:04:20:	Well, what has come out and what is going to come out even further as Elon rips back

00:04:20 – 00:04:25:	the veil is that the people doing the banning, which all of us who were getting banned,

00:04:25 – 00:04:27:	knew for a fact.

00:04:27 – 00:04:31:	The banners were trannies, were sodomites, were pedophiles.

00:04:31 – 00:04:36:	Those are the people who didn't want me on Twitter, who didn't want me talking.

00:04:36 – 00:04:41:	So if you think that you're on the same page as those guys morally, that's probably a

00:04:41 – 00:04:45:	bigger question that we can ever answer on one of our episodes, but you should spend

00:04:45 – 00:04:47:	some serious time thinking about that.

00:04:47 – 00:04:51:	So I am pseudonymous, not because I'm ashamed of anything I say.

00:04:51 – 00:04:56:	I mean, the fact that I'm now, you know, putting my voice to it, it makes it inevitable.

00:04:56 – 00:05:00:	At some point, I will to be doxed and there will be absolute attribution to everything

00:05:00 – 00:05:02:	I've ever said, which I'm fine with.

00:05:02 – 00:05:04:	I'm not fine with being doxed.

00:05:04 – 00:05:10:	That's an evil, murderous thing for people to do, but there is no shame in anything that

00:05:10 – 00:05:15:	I have said, the things that I say online are the same things that I say in person.

00:05:15 – 00:05:21:	The difference between an in-person conversation and an online conversation is that in person,

00:05:21 – 00:05:25:	you have the other individual in front of you, their particular views where they're coming

00:05:25 – 00:05:30:	from, and you work with those if you're a normal human being trying to have a conversation.

00:05:30 – 00:05:33:	On the internet, it's different.

00:05:33 – 00:05:34:	The audience is a generic one.

00:05:34 – 00:05:40:	So in a sense, it's easier to speak directly to what I think, not because I'm hiding something

00:05:40 – 00:05:44:	in person and I'm blunt on the internet.

00:05:44 – 00:05:49:	It's just that I don't have to assume any particular givens for whom I'm speaking to.

00:05:49 – 00:05:52:	So I'm not anonymous.

00:05:52 – 00:05:58:	I'm in a attributable voice that has everything I've ever said.

00:05:58 – 00:06:02:	You can look at the very pseudonyms and say, yeah, this guy has said all that stuff and

00:06:02 – 00:06:03:	I did.

00:06:03 – 00:06:05:	Am I proud of all of it?

00:06:05 – 00:06:06:	No.

00:06:06 – 00:06:07:	I've said things were stupid.

00:06:07 – 00:06:10:	I've made tweets in the past that I deleted because that was awful.

00:06:10 – 00:06:11:	I shouldn't have said that.

00:06:11 – 00:06:13:	I'm a human being.

00:06:13 – 00:06:18:	So to say that I'm not ashamed of what I've posted doesn't necessarily mean I've never

00:06:18 – 00:06:23:	said anything idiotic because I have, but I've never said anything evil because I have.

00:06:23 – 00:06:30:	But the salient facts of the reasons that I was banned and will probably be banned again

00:06:30 – 00:06:35:	even with Elon are theological in nature.

00:06:35 – 00:06:39:	They come down to why all these fights are happening in the world and frankly why we're

00:06:39 – 00:06:40:	doing this podcast.

00:06:40 – 00:06:46:	So just at the outset, I want to make clear that when you say that people like me are anonymous,

00:06:46 – 00:06:50:	they're abusing the word forechan and the other image boards.

00:06:50 – 00:06:53:	Those are anonymous image boards.

00:06:53 – 00:06:57:	When you go to one, you click on a forum or a topic group, you click on a thread, you

00:06:57 – 00:07:02:	go down to the bottom, you just type in whatever you want to say and send and it appears.

00:07:02 – 00:07:03:	There's no login.

00:07:03 – 00:07:07:	There's no attribution you show up as anonymous.

00:07:07 – 00:07:14:	That's an interesting case because there's no reputation there and someone who is keen

00:07:14 – 00:07:16:	on reputation will think, oh, well, that's terrible.

00:07:16 – 00:07:18:	People can do whatever.

00:07:18 – 00:07:24:	But there's a flip side to that also is that you don't get any credit for being some brilliant

00:07:24 – 00:07:27:	person or for having certain credentials.

00:07:27 – 00:07:33:	You show up on the timeline with ever, whatever your current thought was and then you vanish.

00:07:33 – 00:07:34:	You never get any credit for it.

00:07:34 – 00:07:37:	You can't take credit because you're anonymous.

00:07:37 – 00:07:39:	That's what anonymous means.

00:07:39 – 00:07:40:	Again, I'm pseudonymous.

00:07:40 – 00:07:46:	I have years of posting on various pseudonyms that I take credit for all of it.

00:07:46 – 00:07:47:	Those are my thoughts.

00:07:47 – 00:07:48:	It's funny.

00:07:48 – 00:07:52:	I looked back at some of the things I was tweeting two, three years ago and their every

00:07:52 – 00:07:57:	bit is relevant today as they were then, even though when I was saying it then, a lot

00:07:57 – 00:07:59:	of the things I was saying for the first time.

00:07:59 – 00:08:04:	In fact, many of them were addressing this very question.

00:08:04 – 00:08:08:	It's interesting that you and I Courier are the two people talking about this because

00:08:08 – 00:08:15:	you are the least anonymous Lutheran out there who's the target of these very attacks.

00:08:15 – 00:08:22:	I'd like to first ask you is not a pseudonymous man, is Corey J. Mallor, who puts your name

00:08:22 – 00:08:23:	on everything.

00:08:23 – 00:08:25:	You are the ideal case.

00:08:25 – 00:08:30:	You're the ideal case for what these pastors think everyone should be doing.

00:08:30 – 00:08:35:	All the folks maybe don't know behind the scenes what it's like being Corey and a world

00:08:35 – 00:08:39:	where you say things that you believe that are hated by the world.

00:08:39 – 00:08:45:	Yes, saying that I am not anonymous or even pseudonymous is almost an understatement

00:08:45 – 00:08:48:	considering my website is my name.

00:08:48 – 00:08:55:	I have my actual profile picture of me on all of my accounts.

00:08:55 – 00:09:00:	In fact, it's in front of the brewery I go to after church, no less.

00:09:00 – 00:09:02:	Pretty much everyone knows I live in East Tennessee.

00:09:02 – 00:09:06:	It's not hard to find the church I attend.

00:09:06 – 00:09:11:	That's relevant because I have had individuals, pastors, in fact, who disagree with the things

00:09:11 – 00:09:21:	we have said, who have contacted my pastor, basically an proxy attempt to harass me.

00:09:21 – 00:09:25:	Even beyond that, there's the obvious social media you get death threats and things like

00:09:25 – 00:09:26:	that.

00:09:26 – 00:09:32:	Sometimes I've had particularly lovely DMs show up on Twitter and on Facebook back when

00:09:32 – 00:09:33:	I used that.

00:09:33 – 00:09:35:	That's been a long time ago though.

00:09:35 – 00:09:42:	Really, what those who say they do not want anonymity, really pseudonymity, but those

00:09:42 – 00:09:46:	who say they don't want it, they want the ability to harass people.

00:09:46 – 00:09:47:	That's what they're saying.

00:09:47 – 00:09:49:	They don't want to engage with the idea.

00:09:49 – 00:09:52:	They just want the potential.

00:09:52 – 00:09:58:	They want the power over that person to harass him and if they can destroy him.

00:09:58 – 00:10:00:	I'm a little more insulated than some.

00:10:00 – 00:10:06:	I'm not working for a large law firm as an attorney and so they can't call my supervisor

00:10:06 – 00:10:08:	and get me fired.

00:10:08 – 00:10:11:	They absolutely would if they could.

00:10:11 – 00:10:15:	I do not for a second doubt that some of the people from Twitter and elsewhere have

00:10:15 – 00:10:17:	complained to the bar.

00:10:17 – 00:10:21:	I haven't done anything that violates any rules, so all they've done is annoy some

00:10:21 – 00:10:28:	peon at the bar, but it's very obvious the pattern of behavior in which they're engaging

00:10:28 – 00:10:30:	what it is they want to do.

00:10:30 – 00:10:36:	They do not want to have a conversation as they will sometimes say they don't want to

00:10:36 – 00:10:38:	know the man on the other side of the screen.

00:10:38 – 00:10:40:	That's not it.

00:10:40 – 00:10:45:	They want to be able to locate that man to harass and destroy him.

00:10:45 – 00:10:48:	It is malice that animates these men.

00:10:48 – 00:10:54:	In some cases, there's also a bit of foolishness there, but ultimately it's malice.

00:10:54 – 00:10:55:	Yeah.

00:10:55 – 00:11:00:	And we were talking about this yesterday, the particularly hilarious thing about whenever

00:11:00 – 00:11:06:	these guys complain about anons as like these evil slanders, they always ignore the fact

00:11:06 – 00:11:09:	that you exist under your real name.

00:11:09 – 00:11:15:	While simultaneously whenever they refer to you in particular, they treat you like

00:11:15 – 00:11:21:	Voldemort on Twitter, they'll, they're afraid to type the name Corey Moller because they're

00:11:21 – 00:11:25:	afraid that somehow you're going to like appear like bloody Mary.

00:11:25 – 00:11:31:	And so they will have done that a couple times just to mess with them, but they were asking

00:11:31 – 00:11:32:	for it.

00:11:32 – 00:11:33:	Yeah.

00:11:33 – 00:11:38:	It's well deserved, but like they know your name and they're too afraid to say it.

00:11:38 – 00:11:42:	You're like Voldemort to these people who are intimately familiar with that ridiculous

00:11:42 – 00:11:48:	illusion, they, they, they have a name and then they won't use it, as you said, except

00:11:48 – 00:11:55:	to personally target you to seek harm against you in your life, in your livelihood and

00:11:55 – 00:11:56:	in your church.

00:11:56 – 00:11:58:	Well, they got me banned from Twitter.

00:11:58 – 00:11:59:	Yeah.

00:11:59 – 00:12:00:	Me too.

00:12:00 – 00:12:01:	Yeah, I was.

00:12:01 – 00:12:06:	Well, my Moller LCMS account on Twitter, fellow Christians got that one banned.

00:12:06 – 00:12:10:	I'm sure there were some others who were in there as well, but I had to accounts.

00:12:10 – 00:12:17:	I was not avoiding a ban or a suspension because my main account, which is my name, my

00:12:17 – 00:12:19:	full name I had had since 2012.

00:12:19 – 00:12:24:	So I wasn't really planning that far advanced to avoid a suspension.

00:12:24 – 00:12:25:	I had Moller LCMS.

00:12:25 – 00:12:30:	I originally intended to sort of split the two address politics and such on the main

00:12:30 – 00:12:33:	account and religious topics on the other.

00:12:33 – 00:12:37:	I wound up using the other almost exclusively because I was mostly talking about religious

00:12:37 – 00:12:39:	topics and very little about politics.

00:12:39 – 00:12:47:	But the reason the thing they used to report me to get me banned was they mass reported

00:12:47 – 00:12:54:	a particular tweet where I said that the punishment for the production of pornography should be

00:12:54 – 00:12:55:	capital punishment.

00:12:55 – 00:12:57:	I said they should be executed.

00:12:57 – 00:13:02:	That is a call for a change in the law, of course, but they all mass reported it as a threat,

00:13:02 – 00:13:05:	which of course is bearing false witness against me.

00:13:05 – 00:13:10:	But they used that in order to get me banned and that was largely fellow Christians.

00:13:10 – 00:13:14:	My main account got banned because I said something about the Eastern Orthodox and somehow

00:13:14 – 00:13:19:	someone brought it to the attention of Rod Dreyer and I know he's the one who got me

00:13:19 – 00:13:24:	banned because for those who aren't familiar with how this works, when you get banned

00:13:24 – 00:13:30:	suspended whatever they want to call it, you receive an email with the reason.

00:13:30 – 00:13:34:	Now it's probably a vague reason it may not be a relevant reason, but you get an email

00:13:34 – 00:13:36:	that contains a reason.

00:13:36 – 00:13:41:	If you are reported by a blue check because they have a special back channel, you receive

00:13:41 – 00:13:43:	nothing.

00:13:43 – 00:13:45:	Your account is just all of a sudden suspended.

00:13:45 – 00:13:47:	You can no longer log in.

00:13:47 – 00:13:53:	And that is what happened to my main account right after I interacted with Rod Dreyer and

00:13:53 – 00:13:57:	I have the screenshots that's easy to find.

00:13:58 – 00:14:05:	I'd like to apologize to our audience for this extremely online talk.

00:14:05 – 00:14:10:	There's a lot of stuff that happens on Twitter and Facebook and elsewhere that the reason

00:14:10 – 00:14:14:	that we're talking about this, this is not sour grapes over our accounts.

00:14:14 – 00:14:21:	This is about the much more fundamental issue of what is falsely called the culture war

00:14:21 – 00:14:26:	where people confuse theology with politics and vice versa.

00:14:26 – 00:14:30:	They're not able to understand where the line is if there's a line at all.

00:14:30 – 00:14:34:	So the reason we're talking about this is that we're trying to ultimately talk about

00:14:34 – 00:14:38:	where that line is between theology and politics because it's not where these guys are

00:14:38 – 00:14:39:	drawing it.

00:14:39 – 00:14:43:	And for better or worse, these things play out online.

00:14:43 – 00:14:48:	So while a lot of stuff happens on Twitter and elsewhere, we never want this podcast

00:14:48 – 00:14:52:	to be about the internet drama, about e-drama, like that's exhausting.

00:14:52 – 00:14:53:	I don't want to hear it.

00:14:53 – 00:14:55:	I know you don't want to hear it if you care about this podcast.

00:14:55 – 00:15:02:	So please don't mistake what we're saying is being about us and our accounts, whatever.

00:15:02 – 00:15:07:	But as Corey just said, the fact that Christians have gone after us to remove us from being

00:15:07 – 00:15:13:	able to speak at all because they don't like what we say about theology, that's much

00:15:13 – 00:15:17:	more deeply rooted than just internet talk.

00:15:17 – 00:15:20:	Like that's not about any particular website.

00:15:20 – 00:15:24:	That's a fundamental question of how the church is to operate, which is what we're talking

00:15:24 – 00:15:26:	about today.

00:15:26 – 00:15:32:	So I've already defined a pseudonym, but I'd just like to give you a few examples of if

00:15:32 – 00:15:37:	you think the pseudonyms are evil or they're a bad thing, anyone who knows Adamalgy knows

00:15:37 – 00:15:40:	that pseudomines false in Greek.

00:15:40 – 00:15:46:	Now that's in English, that has a very negative connotation to say something is false is the

00:15:46 – 00:15:47:	opposite of true.

00:15:47 – 00:15:49:	So that's gross.

00:15:49 – 00:15:53:	Like you won't find someone who's more obsessed with the truth than me.

00:15:53 – 00:15:59:	So for me to be saying something that pseudonyms are great or pseudonyms are fine, you could

00:15:59 – 00:16:06:	easily think falsely that I am somehow being an hypocrite.

00:16:06 – 00:16:13:	pseudonyms are aliases, they're nicknames, they're fictitious names, stage names, pen

00:16:13 – 00:16:17:	names, they're regnal names as well.

00:16:17 – 00:16:23:	So it's very common for kings and every pope to assume a new name when they ascend to

00:16:23 – 00:16:25:	their office.

00:16:25 – 00:16:30:	Most people listening have probably heard of Jorge Mario Bergoglio, you've all heard

00:16:30 – 00:16:31:	of Pope Francis.

00:16:31 – 00:16:32:	That's his pseudonym.

00:16:32 – 00:16:39:	He's not Francis, he's Torre, but in his office he has assumed the pseudonym.

00:16:39 – 00:16:45:	Now in his case, there's no disconnect between the two identities, but the identity of

00:16:45 – 00:16:51:	Pope has with it that association where a pseudonym goes along with it.

00:16:51 – 00:16:56:	It's also common as I mentioned, you know, stage names or in pen names, you know, everyone

00:16:56 – 00:17:00:	knows Mark Twain, almost as many no Samuel Clemens.

00:17:00 – 00:17:06:	The man was Samuel, the author was Mark, they were the same guy.

00:17:06 – 00:17:10:	Very few of you probably would recognize the same easier Daniela Vitch, but you all know

00:17:10 – 00:17:12:	Kirk Douglas.

00:17:12 – 00:17:16:	No one would know who I was talking about when I mentioned Bernard Schwartz, but everybody

00:17:16 – 00:17:20:	knows who Tony Curtis is.

00:17:20 – 00:17:26:	Some people might recognize a name named Nimrada Randhawa, but you all know Nicky Haley.

00:17:26 – 00:17:33:	And here's a great one, Alisa Zenovienia, Zenovvend, I could say this earlier, Zenovend

00:17:33 – 00:17:40:	Venevna Rosenbaum, who became Alice O'Connor and then became Ein Rand.

00:17:40 – 00:17:45:	Now nobody knows Alisa, but everybody knows Ein.

00:17:45 – 00:17:50:	In the case of those people, those were all Jews who came into Western countries.

00:17:50 – 00:17:56:	They shapeshifted into assuming our names so that when you heard Bernard Schwartz, you

00:17:56 – 00:17:59:	think, well, that guy's probably a Jew.

00:17:59 – 00:18:02:	Tony Curtis, like that's the, that's a waspious name imaginable.

00:18:02 – 00:18:09:	So maybe he's a Irish or Italian, but you wouldn't think that he was from the land of

00:18:09 – 00:18:11:	his origin and the people of his origin.

00:18:11 – 00:18:15:	So those are people who assume pseudonyms in order to shapeshift.

00:18:15 – 00:18:18:	I have a pseudonym just because that's how the internet works.

00:18:18 – 00:18:22:	I've been on the internet for decades and I've had, I had lost how many count on how many

00:18:22 – 00:18:23:	pseudonyms I've had.

00:18:23 – 00:18:26:	Again, not because like I'm covering my tracks.

00:18:26 – 00:18:35:	It's just that my identity online is not, it's just a pointer to my voice.

00:18:35 – 00:18:41:	So for example, Corey, you and I are in a group of a bunch of Lutherans, 50 odd guys.

00:18:41 – 00:18:44:	I know your name and I won't know one or two other guys, Christian names.

00:18:44 – 00:18:50:	The names that are written in the book of life for eternity as we talked about last week.

00:18:50 – 00:18:55:	But the vast majority, I only know pseudonyms and some of them have changed their pseudonyms

00:18:55 – 00:18:56:	fairly often.

00:18:56 – 00:19:00:	Now, this is an interesting case because one of the things that we do in this group is

00:19:00 – 00:19:06:	we will regularly pin prayer requests for guys, you know, sometimes half a time, a dozen

00:19:06 – 00:19:12:	times a day where someone is about to have the birth of a child or the child is sick or

00:19:12 – 00:19:18:	they're looking for a wife or they have a parent who's sick or dying, all sorts of

00:19:18 – 00:19:24:	things that happen in real life that are consequential, that are meaningful for prayer.

00:19:24 – 00:19:29:	And in every one of those cases, it's somebody with a pseudonym who's saying, hey guys, please

00:19:29 – 00:19:31:	pray for me.

00:19:31 – 00:19:38:	Now, because we understand what pseudonyms are for, we don't think, well, I'm going to ask

00:19:38 – 00:19:41:	God to pray for night George and his new baby.

00:19:41 – 00:19:46:	I hope God knows who I'm talking about because I don't, like that's nonsense.

00:19:46 – 00:19:47:	I know who he is.

00:19:47 – 00:19:48:	I know things about him.

00:19:48 – 00:19:49:	I just don't know his name.

00:19:49 – 00:19:52:	I don't care about his name and it's not apathy.

00:19:52 – 00:19:56:	It's that to me, he's KG and he's a close friend.

00:19:56 – 00:19:57:	God knows who he is.

00:19:57 – 00:20:03:	So when I take night George to God in prayer, I don't have any doubt that God knows exactly

00:20:03 – 00:20:04:	who I'm talking about.

00:20:04 – 00:20:07:	And the same is true of my pseudonym.

00:20:07 – 00:20:11:	God knows exactly who I am when I'm posting on the internet.

00:20:11 – 00:20:17:	And these pastors, these people who get angry that someone is posting without accountability,

00:20:17 – 00:20:21:	they want accountability, want to hold somebody's feet to the fire, is though, I think that

00:20:21 – 00:20:25:	I'm tricking God by using a different name than the one that's written in the book of

00:20:25 – 00:20:26:	life.

00:20:26 – 00:20:27:	I have no such delusions.

00:20:27 – 00:20:30:	I am accountable for every careless word.

00:20:30 – 00:20:34:	Like I said, I've had careless words and sometimes I'm ashamed of them like, nope, I got

00:20:34 – 00:20:39:	to get rid of that because that was, I should not have done that.

00:20:39 – 00:20:43:	That was shame before God because I said it and God saw me see it.

00:20:43 – 00:20:47:	The fact that it was attributed online to a pseudonym is meaningless between me and my

00:20:47 – 00:20:48:	creator.

00:20:48 – 00:20:55:	And the fact that some pastor who gets mad at me doesn't know my name is totally immaterial.

00:20:55 – 00:20:58:	As you said earlier, these guys never want to actually discuss the things we want to

00:20:58 – 00:20:59:	discuss.

00:20:59 – 00:21:03:	They will think that they're slandering you by calling you slavery, Lutheran.

00:21:03 – 00:21:05:	And I grew to you completely on that subject.

00:21:05 – 00:21:10:	We'll do an episode probably pretty soon about slavery and what God says about slavery because

00:21:10 – 00:21:11:	it's not what these men say.

00:21:11 – 00:21:13:	It's not what the world say.

00:21:13 – 00:21:18:	But rather than dealing with the text of Scripture, they just want to go straight for

00:21:18 – 00:21:24:	ad hominem and discrediting the person rather than talking about the ideas.

00:21:24 – 00:21:30:	And so, pseudonymity is valuable in that case because it keeps, keeps the attacks away from

00:21:30 – 00:21:35:	the person and forces the discussion onto the ideas.

00:21:35 – 00:21:37:	As I've said before and elsewhere, I have no credentials.

00:21:37 – 00:21:39:	I'm not a pastor.

00:21:39 – 00:21:40:	I don't know Greek.

00:21:40 – 00:21:42:	I have no training for any of this.

00:21:42 – 00:21:43:	I freely admit that.

00:21:43 – 00:21:48:	And if you think that that disqualifies me from being heard, then no listen.

00:21:48 – 00:21:49:	That's fine.

00:21:49 – 00:21:53:	If in spite of the fact that I have no credentials, you hear what I say and think, huh, that's

00:21:53 – 00:21:54:	interesting.

00:21:54 – 00:21:57:	Or, wow, I really think this is valuable.

00:21:57 – 00:22:01:	That's between you and your understanding of Scripture through what the Holy Spirit

00:22:01 – 00:22:05:	has revealed to you that you would hear what I say and say, yeah, I think they agree

00:22:05 – 00:22:06:	with that.

00:22:06 – 00:22:08:	It's got nothing to do with credentials.

00:22:08 – 00:22:15:	So, guys who need their collar and their avatar online and they need to have their titles

00:22:15 – 00:22:21:	in order to be recognized, I think, is a very different kind of hiding behind something.

00:22:21 – 00:22:24:	They accuse me of hiding behind a pseudonym.

00:22:24 – 00:22:27:	Frankly, I think most of them are hiding behind their collars.

00:22:27 – 00:22:33:	Well, as mentioned, that is one of the benefits of pseudonymity is that the only thing that

00:22:33 – 00:22:36:	matters is what you said.

00:22:36 – 00:22:42:	And so those who are pseudonymous cannot make an appeal to credentials or to experience

00:22:43 – 00:22:46:	anything outside of what they have said.

00:22:46 – 00:22:50:	And so it is wholly about the argument.

00:22:50 – 00:22:55:	And in this case, we are basing everything we say on Scripture.

00:22:55 – 00:23:00:	And so those who are making these points under a pseudonymous account are simply making

00:23:00 – 00:23:03:	the point they are not saying, well, I'm a pastor.

00:23:03 – 00:23:09:	So you have to listen to me or I have this degree or that degree or this knowledge.

00:23:09 – 00:23:13:	In my case, I'm obviously not pseudonymous.

00:23:13 – 00:23:16:	But I am still making an appeal to the things I have said.

00:23:16 – 00:23:21:	You will note that on my website and on my accounts, I'm not adding all the letters

00:23:21 – 00:23:23:	that I could add after my name.

00:23:23 – 00:23:27:	I did for a little while simply to annoy a handful of people that really found that

00:23:27 – 00:23:31:	noxious because it amused me.

00:23:31 – 00:23:35:	But I've removed all that stuff because it's not actually particularly relevant to the

00:23:35 – 00:23:37:	things I'm saying.

00:23:37 – 00:23:44:	Yes, if the topic of European Union antitrust comes up, okay, fine.

00:23:44 – 00:23:46:	My credentials are now relevant.

00:23:46 – 00:23:48:	My training is relevant.

00:23:48 – 00:23:51:	But when it comes to these things, we are appealing to the Word of God.

00:23:51 – 00:23:56:	We are appealing to those who have the Spirit to hear God's voice and the things we are

00:23:56 – 00:23:57:	saying.

00:23:57 – 00:24:00:	And so the credentials are not relevant.

00:24:00 – 00:24:04:	Is being a pastor relevant to some of this stuff in some way?

00:24:04 – 00:24:09:	Well certainly when it comes to the stricter judgment, but in a very real way, the only

00:24:09 – 00:24:16:	thing that is relevant is whether or not the man who is speaking is repeating God's word.

00:24:16 – 00:24:21:	He may have whatever sort of clothing he wants on.

00:24:21 – 00:24:26:	He may have whatever degrees he wants, but what matters is what he is saying and being pseudonymous

00:24:26 – 00:24:33:	is actually in some way a benefit with regard to that.

00:24:33 – 00:24:35:	And it's not unprecedented within the faith he learned earlier.

00:24:35 – 00:24:39:	I mentioned we have a friend who goes by night, George, for obvious reasons.

00:24:39 – 00:24:44:	That's the Junker Yorg was one of Luther's pseudonyms when he was pursued by men who

00:24:44 – 00:24:47:	were trying to murder him.

00:24:47 – 00:24:52:	Yeah, and many, many people don't actually, I think that many people would not actually

00:24:52 – 00:24:54:	know who Junker Yorg is.

00:24:54 – 00:24:56:	They don't know that story.

00:24:56 – 00:25:04:	But after the diet of Vorms in 1521, Friedrich the Wise, one of Luther's patrons had him

00:25:04 – 00:25:07:	kidnapped, so to speak.

00:25:07 – 00:25:12:	He had him intercepted in the countryside on the way back from the diet because he had

00:25:12 – 00:25:20:	basically just been declared an outlaw in the old sense of the term.

00:25:20 – 00:25:22:	Someone could kill him without consequence.

00:25:22 – 00:25:27:	And so in order to protect him, they kidnapped him, spirited him away to Vartburg.

00:25:27 – 00:25:31:	And he assumed the name of Junker Yorg, more or less night, George.

00:25:31 – 00:25:35:	It's a little difference in emphasis there, but it's close enough of a translation.

00:25:35 – 00:25:41:	And so he lived essentially as a minor noble in Vartburg Castle in rooms that had traditionally

00:25:41 – 00:25:46:	been used for minor nobles who had basically fallen out of favor, but not so far that they

00:25:46 – 00:25:48:	needed to be executed.

00:25:48 – 00:25:53:	So it was not quite prison, but sort of house arrest.

00:25:53 – 00:25:56:	But while he was there, he had two squires who waited on him.

00:25:56 – 00:25:57:	He lived as a minor noble.

00:25:57 – 00:26:00:	Incidentally, he may have put on a little weight while he was there because he switched

00:26:00 – 00:26:04:	from a monk's diet to a minor noble's diet, very different thing.

00:26:04 – 00:26:07:	He interacted with other nobles.

00:26:07 – 00:26:15:	But while he was there, operating under this pseudonym, he translated the Bible.

00:26:15 – 00:26:22:	Essentially, the first time you really have the Bible in the vernacular being widespread.

00:26:22 – 00:26:27:	Obviously, yes, Greek at the time would have been vernacular, but it no longer was.

00:26:27 – 00:26:29:	Neither was Latin.

00:26:29 – 00:26:35:	And so we have, he also wrote two volumes worth of his works while he was in that castle.

00:26:35 – 00:26:38:	And so we have an instance in our own history.

00:26:38 – 00:26:42:	And this is the case for all Protestants, not just Lutherans, but obviously particularly

00:26:42 – 00:26:49:	for Lutherans, of a man operating under a pseudonym and achieving a great deal of good

00:26:49 – 00:26:52:	and doing it for a perfectly legitimate reason.

00:26:52 – 00:26:57:	In his case, he would have been killed if he had been found, if he had been using his name

00:26:57 – 00:26:58:	and been discovered.

00:26:58 – 00:27:03:	Today, the stakes aren't really that much different.

00:27:03 – 00:27:07:	Know the emperor is not going to literally drag you into the town square and chop off

00:27:07 – 00:27:09:	your head.

00:27:09 – 00:27:17:	If you express these unpopular opinions online and are found out, but the agents of our

00:27:17 – 00:27:21:	evil government are certainly going to find you, are going to get you fired, are going

00:27:21 – 00:27:25:	to make your life miserable, are going to send you death threats, may very well cause

00:27:25 – 00:27:27:	you physical harm.

00:27:27 – 00:27:33:	In some cases, this stuff does actually eventually in murder because some of our adversaries,

00:27:33 – 00:27:38:	some of our enemies are willing to go that far.

00:27:38 – 00:27:42:	That's the reason that we're talking about this is that there's, there are real world

00:27:42 – 00:27:51:	consequences to these pastors claiming that you must unmask yourself or you are a coward.

00:27:51 – 00:27:57:	One of my first exposures to the, the spirit behind what a lot of these pastors think was

00:27:57 – 00:28:04:	a year or so ago when I was on Jonathan Fisk's Discord, Fiskord, he obviously is the admin.

00:28:04 – 00:28:06:	There were like 600 people on the thing.

00:28:06 – 00:28:12:	I was in a channel with Adam Coons and a number of other pastors who my respect.

00:28:12 – 00:28:15:	And one day there was a conversation and I think, I don't remember the details.

00:28:15 – 00:28:19:	I think there was like a disagreement between me and another member, which was pretty typical.

00:28:19 – 00:28:24:	I was, I was there basically to be hated, but to speak the truth in a place where maybe

00:28:24 – 00:28:25:	a few people would hear it.

00:28:25 – 00:28:33:	Anyway, something happened and Jonathan Fisk falsely accused me of a sin in front of

00:28:33 – 00:28:35:	everyone from hundreds of people.

00:28:35 – 00:28:40:	He said that I had just sinned and the accusation was not borne out by any of the evidence.

00:28:40 – 00:28:46:	So that made her slanderous and because he's not only a pastor, but he is the admin, that

00:28:46 – 00:28:48:	made a powerful slander like it's one thing.

00:28:48 – 00:28:54:	If I is just a nobody on Discord, say something mean about somebody else, nobody cares.

00:28:54 – 00:28:59:	When the admin and the pastor who's, it's named after says something, everybody cares.

00:28:59 – 00:29:00:	So I rebuked him.

00:29:00 – 00:29:02:	I said, that was false.

00:29:02 – 00:29:05:	You need to repent and you need to take that back.

00:29:05 – 00:29:08:	You've harmed or I put my reputation.

00:29:08 – 00:29:11:	And his, the only reason I'm telling this story, it's not that I'm mad that someone

00:29:11 – 00:29:13:	was mean to me online.

00:29:13 – 00:29:18:	I remember it because I learned something very important that day from his response.

00:29:18 – 00:29:23:	Fisk responded by scoffing at me and essentially saying, I don't even know your name.

00:29:23 – 00:29:25:	You're not a real person.

00:29:25 – 00:29:30:	I can't possibly sin against you because I don't know who you are.

00:29:30 – 00:29:31:	And that was the end of it.

00:29:31 – 00:29:35:	Like as far as I was concerned, as far as he was concerned, because I was pseudonymous,

00:29:35 – 00:29:40:	he could do any manner of harm to my reputation, which is a real thing.

00:29:40 – 00:29:46:	I have a reputation because all of my comments online are attributable to a pseudonym, but

00:29:46 – 00:29:47:	to me.

00:29:47 – 00:29:48:	And he said, that's nothing.

00:29:48 – 00:29:51:	I can rob you of your reputation because it's not even you.

00:29:51 – 00:29:55:	You're not even really human being unless you use your real name.

00:29:55 – 00:30:00:	This is something that played out again this year in what was the inspiration for our

00:30:00 – 00:30:06:	very first episode where we talked about Mrs. Johnathan Lackey's book that was published

00:30:06 – 00:30:11:	by CPH that was teaching theology to the church.

00:30:11 – 00:30:20:	And Corey, you and my and I, our friend group were the first people within Lutheranism

00:30:20 – 00:30:21:	to discuss this.

00:30:21 – 00:30:25:	We discussed it in private and like, what's going on at CPH?

00:30:25 – 00:30:29:	Why are they, why are they unable to find pastors to teach theology?

00:30:29 – 00:30:31:	Like do we have a shortage?

00:30:31 – 00:30:33:	No, there's not a shortage of pastors.

00:30:33 – 00:30:37:	There may be a shortage of theologians, but that's a separate problem.

00:30:37 – 00:30:45:	But why is it that the organ of our synod is propping up a 25-year-old girl to teach theology?

00:30:45 – 00:30:48:	Jesus didn't even begin teaching theology until he was 30.

00:30:48 – 00:30:50:	But we disregard that example.

00:30:50 – 00:30:53:	He's like, well, okay, this girl, she's got a ton of gifts.

00:30:53 – 00:30:56:	She might even be better at Jesus that teaching theology.

00:30:56 – 00:31:01:	So she's upheld and she's given a publishing deal and her book is propped up and issues

00:31:01 – 00:31:02:	etc.

00:31:02 – 00:31:05:	It makes it the book of the month and everybody loves it.

00:31:05 – 00:31:10:	And some of our friends are like, this doesn't seem to be consistent with Scripture.

00:31:10 – 00:31:14:	Let's go look at where Scripture says that I do not permit a woman to speak.

00:31:14 – 00:31:17:	She is to be silent in the church.

00:31:17 – 00:31:20:	And the discussion was, you know, well, it doesn't the church mean that she can't preach.

00:31:20 – 00:31:25:	And basically, all the pastors concluded that there's nothing in the Bible that prevents

00:31:25 – 00:31:31:	a girl from doing anything except investing, giving communion, and standing in the pulpit

00:31:31 – 00:31:32:	and preaching.

00:31:32 – 00:31:34:	Everything else is up for grabs.

00:31:34 – 00:31:38:	Now most of them will deny that, but that's functionally what their arguments are.

00:31:38 – 00:31:44:	Whenever they look to 1 Timothy 2 and 1 Corinthians 1 Corinthians 14, they see those texts strictly

00:31:44 – 00:31:50:	as protecting their pastoral office and not being about headship, we disagreed.

00:31:50 – 00:31:54:	So we started discussing it online and saying, hey, look at this book.

00:31:54 – 00:31:55:	Look what's going on.

00:31:55 – 00:32:01:	And it quickly spread because it was rightly controversial that a girl is teaching theology.

00:32:01 – 00:32:06:	And I want to read just a couple clips from what appeared on the God of Steens blog and

00:32:06 – 00:32:10:	on Larry Beans blog as a follow up.

00:32:10 – 00:32:12:	The first clip here that I'm going to read for you is from John Busman.

00:32:12 – 00:32:14:	He's a pastor.

00:32:14 – 00:32:20:	In the middle of his post, he just mentioned as an aside that he's Mrs. Jonathan Lackie's

00:32:20 – 00:32:21:	pastor.

00:32:21 – 00:32:27:	He really buried the lead there by launching into a multi-page diatribe that I'll get into

00:32:27 – 00:32:31:	here and failing to mention that it was his own parishioner.

00:32:31 – 00:32:33:	He was defending so forcefully.

00:32:33 – 00:32:36:	Nothing wrong with defending her, but say up front, I'm her pastor.

00:32:36 – 00:32:38:	Let me tell you what I think.

00:32:38 – 00:32:39:	By doing the lead, I believe.

00:32:39 – 00:32:40:	Defending himself.

00:32:40 – 00:32:41:	Yeah.

00:32:41 – 00:32:42:	Yeah.

00:32:42 – 00:32:48:	That's the one who either correctly or incorrectly taught her husband and her.

00:32:48 – 00:32:49:	Yeah.

00:32:49 – 00:32:50:	Absolutely.

00:32:50 – 00:32:57:	By us questioning the nature of the headship of a woman teaching theology, we were implicitly

00:32:57 – 00:32:59:	questioning his headship.

00:32:59 – 00:33:01:	John, John Busman's headship as her pastor.

00:33:01 – 00:33:05:	And so he was absolutely defending himself indirectly.

00:33:05 – 00:33:07:	So here's what he said.

00:33:07 – 00:33:08:	So why the backlash?

00:33:08 – 00:33:13:	I actually think it's simply people with absolutely nothing better to do than to anonymously

00:33:13 – 00:33:19:	troll people and try to discourage them from fulfilling their vocation.

00:33:19 – 00:33:23:	We have those types enter into the goddess bug comment section all the time.

00:33:23 – 00:33:24:	You know the types.

00:33:24 – 00:33:26:	There are a couple of things there.

00:33:26 – 00:33:29:	Anonymously is always connected to troll.

00:33:29 – 00:33:31:	If you're anonymous, you're automatically a troll.

00:33:31 – 00:33:33:	This is Peter Sladen's big thing.

00:33:33 – 00:33:36:	He's a social media manager for the LCMS.

00:33:36 – 00:33:37:	He goes around calling people trolls all the time.

00:33:37 – 00:33:43:	He's blocked numerous pastors in our own synod from the official LCMS website because

00:33:43 – 00:33:45:	they follow trolls on Twitter.

00:33:45 – 00:33:47:	So see, this is this troll thing.

00:33:47 – 00:33:52:	This slander of calling someone a troll is exactly what Jonathan Fisk did to me.

00:33:52 – 00:33:53:	He said, I don't know your name.

00:33:53 – 00:33:57:	I don't like something you said rather than apologizing for slandering you, I'm going

00:33:57 – 00:34:01:	to label you a pseudonymous troll and then you're nothing.

00:34:01 – 00:34:05:	That's exactly what these other pastors, this what Busman did and what Bill Larry is going

00:34:05 – 00:34:06:	to do in a minute.

00:34:06 – 00:34:07:	Say, these are trolls.

00:34:07 – 00:34:09:	They're not really human beings.

00:34:09 – 00:34:13:	And the other thing that will be a subject for another day, but no, he said trying to discourage

00:34:13 – 00:34:20:	them, meaning girls, from fulfilling their vocation, meaning teaching theology to men.

00:34:20 – 00:34:26:	Now that's a textbook case of question begging because that's what they do.

00:34:26 – 00:34:29:	They say, well, obviously God gave her the gift to teach.

00:34:29 – 00:34:31:	So if she's teaching, it must be from God.

00:34:31 – 00:34:34:	And if you don't like her teaching, you must be opposed to God.

00:34:34 – 00:34:39:	Those are the rhetorical tricks they get played in these fights.

00:34:39 – 00:34:43:	In a subsequent post on Godestines, Bernal Eckert, you know, this is mostly written by Larry

00:34:43 – 00:34:47:	Bean, the Bernal posted under his name with credit to Larry.

00:34:47 – 00:34:54:	I said this, Father Busman's post brought to our attention to this, which is good.

00:34:54 – 00:34:58:	Not only a question of where the scriptural line is drawn in the real world regarding

00:34:58 – 00:35:03:	women teaching and publishing in their own time, place, and culture, but also regarding

00:35:03 – 00:35:11:	the roles of men and women and chivalry, quote, in the colon chivalry, chivalry, the swarming

00:35:11 – 00:35:18:	of a woman by anonymous men as recently happened in the Twitter world is not chivalrous Christian

00:35:18 – 00:35:19:	masculine behavior.

00:35:19 – 00:35:21:	And we all agree on that.

00:35:21 – 00:35:30:	This is fascinating for a few reasons one, we never said a single word to Molly on Twitter

00:35:30 – 00:35:35:	that was hostile or abrasive or overly critical.

00:35:35 – 00:35:39:	I, when you use Twitter, there's an advanced search where you can look and see everyone

00:35:39 – 00:35:42:	who has addressed another account by name.

00:35:42 – 00:35:47:	We looked at all the posts that anyone anywhere on the internet had said to Mrs. Lackey.

00:35:47 – 00:35:51:	There wasn't a single thing that was mean that was hateful.

00:35:51 – 00:35:55:	The only comment that we found was from one of our friends who said something nice to

00:35:55 – 00:36:00:	her, even in a thread where he was criticizing the fact that this book had been published.

00:36:00 – 00:36:07:	So for Larry and Bernel to say that the swarming of a woman on Twitter is slander.

00:36:07 – 00:36:08:	It is a lie.

00:36:08 – 00:36:11:	There is zero evidence for it.

00:36:11 – 00:36:15:	And it's one of these lies that these guys are happy to propagate because again, we've

00:36:15 – 00:36:16:	been labeled as trolls.

00:36:16 – 00:36:22:	So if it's a troll, no hold barred, you can say whatever you want about a troll because

00:36:22 – 00:36:23:	they're not really human.

00:36:23 – 00:36:26:	There's no, there's no question of sinning against a troll.

00:36:26 – 00:36:32:	So when they make those slander's accusations as pastors, as the guys who write the goddess

00:36:32 – 00:36:37:	blog, everyone who doesn't know anything automatically assumes that that actually happened.

00:36:37 – 00:36:42:	Most people believe that people were saying mean things to Mrs. Lackey on the internet.

00:36:42 – 00:36:44:	It literally never happened.

00:36:44 – 00:36:48:	I want to emphasize that it never happened.

00:36:48 – 00:36:53:	And at these men will repeat this over and over again and they're free to do so in their

00:36:53 – 00:36:58:	minds morally because the people speaking were pseudonymous.

00:36:58 – 00:37:00:	If they had not been pseudonymous, what would they have done?

00:37:00 – 00:37:03:	They would have called their pastors and said, you need to put this person on the lesser

00:37:03 – 00:37:09:	ban unless they repent for this sin where there was no sin.

00:37:09 – 00:37:10:	And they know that.

00:37:10 – 00:37:18:	So that's why we're talking about this because when someone makes accusations against a

00:37:18 – 00:37:22:	person without his name, they think they can't possibly sin against them.

00:37:22 – 00:37:28:	So when you see doxing and you see threats against livelihood and even flesh, they think

00:37:28 – 00:37:33:	it's okay, even though it's exactly what Antifa does.

00:37:33 – 00:37:36:	The post on goddess blog goes on.

00:37:36 – 00:37:40:	Finally, it's been our policy for several years not to allow anonymous posts.

00:37:40 – 00:37:42:	We decided we need to enforce it.

00:37:42 – 00:37:45:	There may have been a need for anonymity and discussing political and hot button social

00:37:45 – 00:37:46:	topics.

00:37:46 – 00:37:51:	But when it comes to discussing our faith, we are called upon to confess further putting

00:37:51 – 00:37:55:	your name on something requires that you put more thought into your comment to choose

00:37:55 – 00:38:01:	your words and your accusations more carefully and suggest subjects you to consequences within

00:38:01 – 00:38:02:	the church.

00:38:02 – 00:38:06:	They you'll be held accountable by your pastor and the case of pastors by your brothers

00:38:06 – 00:38:07:	and the ministerium.

00:38:07 – 00:38:09:	So that goes directly to what we just said.

00:38:09 – 00:38:12:	They don't want to discuss the ideas.

00:38:12 – 00:38:14:	They want punishment.

00:38:14 – 00:38:19:	They presume to act as judge, jury, and executioner in these theological discussions and they seek

00:38:19 – 00:38:23:	the destruction of the men with whom they disagree.

00:38:23 – 00:38:27:	There was another word that Larry used in their shovel for us and that absolutely came

00:38:27 – 00:38:28:	from him.

00:38:28 – 00:38:29:	He's a southerner.

00:38:29 – 00:38:33:	He's very proud of his southerner heritage and I respect that half my family is from

00:38:33 – 00:38:34:	the south.

00:38:34 – 00:38:35:	I get it.

00:38:35 – 00:38:44:	But I think it's ironic that in a discussion of a woman teaching theology, Larry and others

00:38:44 – 00:38:52:	would suddenly invoke these terms of chivalry and you can't say mean things to a girl.

00:38:52 – 00:38:58:	If you assume for the sake of argument that is legitimate for a girl to be teaching theology,

00:38:58 – 00:39:00:	she has stepped into the ring.

00:39:00 – 00:39:06:	She has made herself subject to criticism as every theologian is subject to criticism

00:39:06 – 00:39:10:	for what they say and whether they have the right to say it.

00:39:10 – 00:39:17:	So ironically, by begging chivalry as a defense of her honor, he was actually agreeing

00:39:17 – 00:39:21:	with us that she has no business talking about theology in the first place.

00:39:21 – 00:39:26:	And on Larry's own blog, he repeated a week later.

00:39:26 – 00:39:30:	Her pastor complained that she was being anonymously attacked on social media and he was angry

00:39:30 – 00:39:32:	and protective of this member of his flock.

00:39:32 – 00:39:39:	The nature of some social media platforms lends to swarming by trolls.

00:39:39 – 00:39:43:	This is where we are right now as men, who indeed are supposed to lead the church, refuse

00:39:43 – 00:39:49:	to use their real names, but instead approach theology with a mindset of a cowering keyboard

00:39:49 – 00:39:52:	warrior using a pseudonym.

00:39:52 – 00:39:56:	When it comes to the Christian faith, we should not resort to pseudo anything.

00:39:56 – 00:40:01:	We come from a long tradition of men and women, clergy and laity, willing to confess and

00:40:01 – 00:40:05:	take the consequences of their countercultural confession of Christ.

00:40:05 – 00:40:08:	Be strong and show yourself a man, O Christian.

00:40:08 – 00:40:10:	Now, he said some other things in the article.

00:40:10 – 00:40:14:	We did actually defend that there's an appropriate place for pseudonymity, but he specifically

00:40:14 – 00:40:19:	carved out a theology as a place where it's utterly impermissible, which is interesting

00:40:19 – 00:40:24:	when you look back to the Luther case where clearly Luther was speaking about theology.

00:40:24 – 00:40:30:	He was writing on theology and he was doing so pseudonymously.

00:40:30 – 00:40:42:	Pastors live sheltered lives, particularly pastors who go straight from seminary to, there

00:40:42 – 00:40:44:	is go straight from college to seminary to the parish.

00:40:44 – 00:40:49:	They never live a single day in the real life, so they don't know what to like to have an

00:40:49 – 00:40:55:	HR department, to have diversity, equity and inclusion training, to have annual multi-hour

00:40:55 – 00:41:02:	brainwashing sessions where you were forced to confess the sodomy and transgenderism and

00:41:02 – 00:41:10:	all of these other demonic evils are normative and tolerable and necessary parts of life.

00:41:10 – 00:41:19:	So this is what we're talking about, drawing the line between theology and politics.

00:41:19 – 00:41:23:	If someone is in the workplace and they're told that they have to call a coworker who

00:41:23 – 00:41:30:	is a man by his assumed name as a woman and his new identity, is that political or is

00:41:30 – 00:41:31:	that theological?

00:41:31 – 00:41:35:	Is that a lie he's allowed to tell because it's in the workplace and really it's not

00:41:35 – 00:41:40:	about John 316, so what if he calls John Jeanette?

00:41:40 – 00:41:41:	That's theological.

00:41:41 – 00:41:46:	That is a confession of the faith because to call a man a woman is to deny the creator

00:41:46 – 00:41:48:	of that person.

00:41:48 – 00:41:50:	That's a first article denial.

00:41:50 – 00:41:55:	When I was taught as a child, I believe in God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and

00:41:55 – 00:41:59:	earth and of all things, visible and invisible.

00:41:59 – 00:42:03:	That applies to me as a man and to someone else as a woman.

00:42:03 – 00:42:07:	And so for someone to come along and say, you need to call this man a woman.

00:42:07 – 00:42:11:	That's the most profound theological statement that I can make in this day because your employer

00:42:11 – 00:42:14:	is not attacking justification.

00:42:14 – 00:42:18:	He's not asking you to say, so do you think, let's see how you can save yourself before

00:42:18 – 00:42:19:	God?

00:42:19 – 00:42:21:	And it's not even a pinch of incense.

00:42:21 – 00:42:25:	He said, you need to deny your creator by saying that this person was made in a different

00:42:25 – 00:42:26:	image.

00:42:26 – 00:42:32:	Well, Satan has learned over the intervening centuries.

00:42:32 – 00:42:42:	We had the knockdown dragout fight that actually culminated in more than one war over justification.

00:42:42 – 00:42:47:	Satan is still attacking that with regard to the many false churches that exist, but

00:42:47 – 00:42:54:	he's not attacking us with that because you are not going to get Lutherans who deny

00:42:54 – 00:42:55:	article four.

00:42:55 – 00:42:58:	That's just not going to happen.

00:42:58 – 00:43:02:	But you don't need to do that if you can get them to go ahead and deny the first article

00:43:02 – 00:43:04:	of the creed.

00:43:04 – 00:43:07:	Because if you don't have the Father, well, you don't have the Son, the same as if you

00:43:07 – 00:43:13:	don't have the Son, don't have the Father, because God is one, three and one, of course.

00:43:13 – 00:43:17:	But that is how Satan is attacking the church today.

00:43:17 – 00:43:18:	It's how he's attacking Christians.

00:43:18 – 00:43:23:	He is attacking us with ontology, a word that people are going to hear a lot from this

00:43:23 – 00:43:27:	podcast, but probably not very much from anywhere else.

00:43:27 – 00:43:33:	The nature of things matters because God is the author of that nature.

00:43:33 – 00:43:35:	Yes, our nature is fallen because of sin.

00:43:35 – 00:43:42:	It is corrupted, but God is still the author of what that nature was intended to be and

00:43:42 – 00:43:45:	insofar as our nature reflects what God intended it to be.

00:43:45 – 00:43:51:	It is directly God's good creature, God's good creation.

00:43:51 – 00:43:55:	And when we deny that, it is, as you said, a denial of God.

00:43:55 – 00:44:00:	You cannot say that black is white and white is black.

00:44:00 – 00:44:03:	Woe to those who call good evil and evil good.

00:44:03 – 00:44:06:	God is very clear about this in Scripture.

00:44:06 – 00:44:12:	You do not get to deny the reality of things and continue to claim that you are in fact

00:44:12 – 00:44:16:	still a Christian because you've denied your creator.

00:44:16 – 00:44:23:	And all of these fights that are called social justice or critical theory, these things

00:44:23 – 00:44:30:	are coming from the so-called left hand kingdom, which is a dichotomy that we need to dissect

00:44:30 – 00:44:34:	and put in its proper place in a future episode.

00:44:34 – 00:44:38:	But when pastors like Larry say, well, if you're talking about the faith, you got to use

00:44:38 – 00:44:39:	your name.

00:44:39 – 00:44:44:	Well, it's talking about the faith to talk about sodomites and the fact that sodomites

00:44:44 – 00:44:47:	reproduce by raping children.

00:44:47 – 00:44:55:	One of the other pastors who has recently been posting some better things is Hans Feeney,

00:44:55 – 00:44:57:	the Lutheran satire guy.

00:44:57 – 00:45:01:	His last name is Feeney, but his grandfather was a priest.

00:45:01 – 00:45:08:	He's a member of the priest dynasty, which I say lovingly, not with any criticism.

00:45:09 – 00:45:13:	He's probably among the weakest of the prices, the current crop, the guys like Mark and

00:45:13 – 00:45:15:	Christian are outstanding.

00:45:15 – 00:45:17:	Rolf is one of the older ones.

00:45:17 – 00:45:21:	He's a great man who will boldly speak the truth about these things.

00:45:21 – 00:45:27:	And so recently, there was a comment from Hans on Twitter specifically talking about

00:45:27 – 00:45:31:	the fact that sodomites reproduce by raping children, which is a fact.

00:45:31 – 00:45:37:	I've had eight, I've had nine homosexual friends over the course of my life.

00:45:37 – 00:45:41:	Every single one of them had stories about their first sexual encounter with an adult

00:45:41 – 00:45:43:	when they were between 12 and 14.

00:45:43 – 00:45:49:	And they became sodomites themselves because that was the easiest way to cope with having

00:45:49 – 00:45:51:	been raped as a child.

00:45:51 – 00:45:57:	They were groomed first like it wasn't, it wasn't overtly forcible rape, but no one

00:45:57 – 00:46:01:	saying would agree that a 12 year old can consent to having sex.

00:46:01 – 00:46:04:	And yeah, that was the case in each of these.

00:46:04 – 00:46:10:	And so now that's anecdata, but it's also on our percent anecdata.

00:46:10 – 00:46:15:	And that is borne out by the surveys and by the discussions and by just talking to these

00:46:15 – 00:46:16:	people.

00:46:16 – 00:46:22:	They will all be open if they talk long enough about the fact that their first encounters

00:46:22 – 00:46:30:	with men of the same sex were as children, it's literally how they reproduce.

00:46:30 – 00:46:34:	Nobody wants to talk about that in the church because we want to talk about LGBTQ

00:46:34 – 00:46:36:	by identity.

00:46:36 – 00:46:39:	That is such a perverse and demonic acronym.

00:46:39 – 00:46:43:	It should never be in the mouth of any Christian and God forgive me for having said it, but

00:46:43 – 00:46:51:	I want to point out the fact that when you use those, the rainbow flag multi-colored aspect

00:46:51 – 00:46:58:	of, well, sexuality is just this huge, it's a variety of things, it can be anything.

00:46:58 – 00:47:00:	It cuts to the heart of theology.

00:47:00 – 00:47:05:	It cuts to the heart of God made man and woman and gave them to each other to be fruitful

00:47:05 – 00:47:06:	and multiply.

00:47:06 – 00:47:12:	And all of these perversions, which are not only damnable, but God repeatedly commands

00:47:12 – 00:47:16:	the physical destruction of those who commit those things.

00:47:16 – 00:47:22:	Homosexual men will actually go even farther than just discussing those things.

00:47:22 – 00:47:26:	Because as a psychological defense mechanism that's part of it, they will actually go so

00:47:26 – 00:47:31:	far as to brag about how young they were when they were molested, when they were raped.

00:47:31 – 00:47:37:	And a lot of pastors, I don't think, have ever been around that subset of the population,

00:47:37 – 00:47:39:	they don't understand these things.

00:47:39 – 00:47:44:	And another thing to go back to when you said that pastors are at least those who are

00:47:44 – 00:47:48:	first career, not second career, not going to be as insulated, but depending on the age

00:47:48 – 00:47:54:	still fairly insulated from what's happening today, they don't realize that what you just

00:47:54 – 00:47:59:	said, and by my sitting here, what I have said, and I agree with everything you said

00:47:59 – 00:48:01:	to be explicit about it.

00:48:01 – 00:48:05:	But simply by my sitting here, if I had just remained silent, I would be fired if I were

00:48:05 – 00:48:12:	working at a large corporation or even a medium size one, because someone would report

00:48:12 – 00:48:20:	me to HR and HR would fire me just because you said it and I was sitting here in silence.

00:48:20 – 00:48:23:	As I said, what is in Scripture?

00:48:23 – 00:48:27:	And that's where the fundamental disconnect is where these pastors don't understand.

00:48:27 – 00:48:28:	All this stuff is theology.

00:48:28 – 00:48:33:	Christian nationalism is theology, it's not politics.

00:48:33 – 00:48:38:	Just as whether or not a woman can be writing a theological book is theology, it's not politics.

00:48:38 – 00:48:43:	Whether a man can have sex with a man is not politics, it's theology.

00:48:43 – 00:48:48:	We have these artificial lines that we've begun to permit to be drawn by Satan in our

00:48:48 – 00:48:53:	world, and they're deliberately having us into a corner where there's effectively nothing

00:48:53 – 00:48:58:	left of the Christian life, except for talking about John 316, and otherwise just shut

00:48:58 – 00:49:03:	up in mind your own business, and that's effectively what these pastors are doing.

00:49:03 – 00:49:07:	You had mentioned second career, and you're absolutely right that the timing is vital to

00:49:07 – 00:49:13:	his credit Larry Bean as a second career guy, he originally had a real job, but he had

00:49:13 – 00:49:18:	a professional job, so he has experienced a rural world to some extent.

00:49:18 – 00:49:24:	But that was 15 years ago, going on 20 years ago before he went to seminary.

00:49:24 – 00:49:29:	I can tell you from the group of guys that we have now, we have a good mix of zoomers,

00:49:29 – 00:49:35:	millennials, and actors in the group, I've said this repeatedly, the 20-year-old guys

00:49:35 – 00:49:41:	in our group, the things that happened to them in college today are so much worse than

00:49:41 – 00:49:46:	that the 25-year-olds remember that they have a hard time believing it.

00:49:46 – 00:49:51:	Now imagine someone who's got another 20 years on that, you have no frame of reference.

00:49:51 – 00:49:57:	So a pastor who's been out of the workplace for 15 years literally has no idea what the

00:49:57 – 00:50:00:	workplace is like today when it comes to these things.

00:50:00 – 00:50:03:	He knows what it's like to have a boss, he knows what it's like to have co-workers and

00:50:03 – 00:50:09:	to navigate office politics and that stuff, but the specific theological warfare that's

00:50:09 – 00:50:14:	being waged by Satan against the consciences of Christians in the workplace everywhere,

00:50:14 – 00:50:16:	pastors have no idea.

00:50:16 – 00:50:19:	And pastors are insulated from this stuff.

00:50:19 – 00:50:25:	And I mention Hans, he alluded to these statistics about homosexuals reproducing by raping

00:50:25 – 00:50:26:	children.

00:50:26 – 00:50:30:	When someone mentioned, when someone challenged him in the comments, he then backpedaled.

00:50:30 – 00:50:36:	And so I'm just speculating, you know, why are we seeing in those numbers?

00:50:36 – 00:50:41:	I'm not going to make this claim with certainty because I wasn't there, but it is my firm belief

00:50:41 – 00:50:44:	based on supposition.

00:50:44 – 00:50:49:	Hans got that and many of his other good recent plate takes on Twitter in the last two months

00:50:49 – 00:50:51:	or so from Price Chat.

00:50:51 – 00:50:55:	I think that Mark and Christian had been an influence on the things that he said online

00:50:55 – 00:50:58:	recently because there are things he's never said before and there are things that you

00:50:58 – 00:51:03:	and I say all the time, the things that are quote unquote, based, there are things that

00:51:03 – 00:51:06:	we get you fired in the workplace for saying them.

00:51:06 – 00:51:10:	He's recently been saying them, which is good because when we say when we get banned

00:51:10 – 00:51:14:	from Twitter, he has immunity and we get banned from Twitter by Christians for saying

00:51:14 – 00:51:15:	them.

00:51:15 – 00:51:18:	But I'm glad that someone is least saying them and they're being heard because they're

00:51:18 – 00:51:21:	vitally important.

00:51:21 – 00:51:26:	You want to talk a little bit about the Stephen Wolf book and the Thomas A. Cortefer?

00:51:26 – 00:51:27:	Sure.

00:51:27 – 00:51:29:	A little bit.

00:51:29 – 00:51:32:	Just before that, I want to mention that I think it was two or maybe three years ago at

00:51:32 – 00:51:33:	this point.

00:51:33 – 00:51:39:	I got into the exact same issue, the fact that homosexuals Sodomites reproduced by raping

00:51:39 – 00:51:46:	children with Dapani, Simeyoki, a Finnish pastor, Lutheran pastor.

00:51:46 – 00:51:52:	And I made a statement along the same lines what we've been saying and he pushed back against

00:51:52 – 00:51:59:	it because his initial reaction, his innate sense of what he needs to do is he wants to

00:51:59 – 00:52:05:	become the defense of impenetent sinners against a Christian.

00:52:05 – 00:52:09:	And I, of course, double down, but that's, that is an ongoing battle that we have been

00:52:09 – 00:52:11:	having all over the place.

00:52:11 – 00:52:17:	And pastors are often either not fighting on the correct side or simply just not fighting

00:52:17 – 00:52:19:	at all.

00:52:19 – 00:52:24:	But to, to move on to what's happened with a court and you'll have to fill in some

00:52:24 – 00:52:27:	of the details, I think you may have followed this more closely than I have.

00:52:27 – 00:52:35:	But essentially what happened is a co-host of Ars Politica made some comments, true comments

00:52:35 – 00:52:36:	by and large.

00:52:36 – 00:52:42:	Some of them may have been, it may be a little uncharitable, harshly worded, but true statements

00:52:42 – 00:52:45:	on a pseudonymous account.

00:52:45 – 00:52:49:	It came out that it was his account.

00:52:49 – 00:52:56:	He's now admitted that in a post and essentially Twitter and other social media set up a lynch

00:52:57 – 00:53:02:	mob to destroy his life, to get him fired, to have him lose his income.

00:53:02 – 00:53:08:	This is a man who has wife and one child or I think it's a couple, yeah, he may have

00:53:08 – 00:53:09:	a couple.

00:53:09 – 00:53:10:	Yeah.

00:53:10 – 00:53:18:	But their whole goal was just to utterly destroy this man for saying things that 50 years

00:53:18 – 00:53:24:	ago, 60, 70, however long, not very long ago, you could have said on TV and no one would

00:53:25 – 00:53:32:	have just been a normal thing to hear and a lynch mob of insane people, evil wicked people

00:53:32 – 00:53:39:	decided to destroy him, many of whom prefaced their comments with as a Christian and then

00:53:39 – 00:53:45:	went on to say the most vile things about someone who actually is a Christian in order to

00:53:45 – 00:53:47:	destroy him.

00:53:47 – 00:53:48:	Yep.

00:53:49 – 00:53:56:	And the reason that the R's Politica podcast connection is relevant is that his co-host,

00:53:56 – 00:54:00:	Thomas's co-host of R's Politica is Stephen Wolf, who wrote the recent book on Christian

00:54:00 – 00:54:08:	nationalism, which is a subject we had just a couple weeks ago, so they're trying this

00:54:08 – 00:54:17:	whole thing has been a proxy attack on Christian nationalism by evil people.

00:54:17 – 00:54:25:	They see Christian nationalism as a subject as so dangerous to the satanic work that the

00:54:25 – 00:54:29:	devil and all of his demons are successfully advancing in the world.

00:54:29 – 00:54:35:	They used a proxy attack of the guy his co-host, like Thomas Acord didn't, as far as I

00:54:35 – 00:54:38:	know, contribute much of anything to the book.

00:54:38 – 00:54:42:	He just happened to be a friend of Stephen Wolf, the author.

00:54:42 – 00:54:48:	He was so important to Satan to destroy anyone's ability to even think about Christian

00:54:48 – 00:54:53:	nationalism that they destroyed a man they cost him his livelihood right in the hall

00:54:53 – 00:54:54:	day season.

00:54:54 – 00:55:00:	And then when someone set up a give send to go, which is like go fund me except for Christians,

00:55:00 – 00:55:07:	set up a give send to go charity drive for him, Christians then waged a campaign against

00:55:07 – 00:55:13:	give send go to deny him receiving that money that was charity from other Christians who

00:55:13 – 00:55:18:	wanted to help his family, because he just lost his job, which is to say they actually

00:55:18 – 00:55:22:	want him to starve literally, yes, starve.

00:55:22 – 00:55:23:	That's murder.

00:55:23 – 00:55:24:	That is attempted murder.

00:55:24 – 00:55:29:	It is murder in the heart, which is then manifesting itself as murder of the person.

00:55:29 – 00:55:33:	And it's being done because the things that he says, you said, some of the things like

00:55:33 – 00:55:34:	I wouldn't have phrased it that way.

00:55:35 – 00:55:39:	The points that he was trying to get to on his anonymous account are mostly things we've

00:55:39 – 00:55:43:	already said, just in the few short podcasts we've had about Christian nationalism, about

00:55:43 – 00:55:47:	race, about the fact that a nation is a race.

00:55:47 – 00:55:53:	If you talk about nationalism at all, you were nested it, serially talking about racism,

00:55:53 – 00:56:00:	about kinism, about belief that blood and soil go together and that that is scriptural.

00:56:00 – 00:56:02:	So that's what's under attack here.

00:56:02 – 00:56:09:	It's ironic that the people who are so hysterical against nationalism, they're implicitly

00:56:09 – 00:56:13:	advocating empire, because that's what the United States is today.

00:56:13 – 00:56:14:	It's an empire.

00:56:14 – 00:56:20:	It is a multi-ethnic empire, not in the sense that we have colonies in other places, but

00:56:20 – 00:56:27:	it is an empire of nations under one political umbrella called the United States.

00:56:27 – 00:56:35:	If we were a nation, there would be one racial group under its own dominion.

00:56:35 – 00:56:40:	We also do kind of have colonies, but that's a discussion of other time.

00:56:40 – 00:56:42:	Yeah, it is.

00:56:42 – 00:56:48:	But again, if you go back and listen to what we said in the Christian nationalism episode,

00:56:48 – 00:56:52:	it was going further than they ever go on Mars Politico, and I think further than Thomas

00:56:52 – 00:56:59:	was comfortable going in his public life, but the things that he believed were grounded

00:56:59 – 00:57:03:	in Scripture because they were true, and he was a headmaster of a Christian school, and

00:57:03 – 00:57:09:	so it's understandable that he would have been afraid to tell the truth under his real

00:57:09 – 00:57:14:	name, not because he's, well, it's tragic the way he handled the situation.

00:57:14 – 00:57:22:	He did everything wrong, because what he did after Rod Draer and others doxed him and

00:57:22 – 00:57:28:	attributed his suitonomous comments to his public persona.

00:57:28 – 00:57:33:	Rather than saying, yes, I said those things, I stand by them.

00:57:33 – 00:57:36:	Maybe I should have said something a little bit differently, but the principle of what

00:57:36 – 00:57:39:	I said is absolutely true.

00:57:39 – 00:57:41:	He threw himself under the bus.

00:57:41 – 00:57:43:	He said, oh, I was, what I said was evil.

00:57:43 – 00:57:49:	I was in a dark place at that time, which is a horrible thing to say, because that seeds

00:57:49 – 00:57:55:	the entire frame to the left, where it goes back to this whole loser anonymous troll

00:57:55 – 00:58:02:	thing, to say that, oh, someone can only believe what he said about race if you're a loser,

00:58:02 – 00:58:08:	if you're in a dark place, if you maybe need to put under a psychiatric hold.

00:58:08 – 00:58:11:	Those are the only people who are going to possibly believe these things.

00:58:11 – 00:58:14:	That throws all of us under the bus, so I wish he just kept his mouth shut because he

00:58:14 – 00:58:20:	did more harm in the aftermath than by anything you ever actually said.

00:58:20 – 00:58:22:	But these are the consequences.

00:58:22 – 00:58:28:	We will need an entire episode really on tactics and frame and related topics, since quite

00:58:28 – 00:58:31:	frankly, Christians are terrible at it.

00:58:31 – 00:58:32:	And it's a problem.

00:58:32 – 00:58:33:	Actively bad.

00:58:33 – 00:58:34:	Yeah.

00:58:34 – 00:58:42:	The Christian impulse to apologize to confess is weaponized by Satan in these cases, where

00:58:42 – 00:58:47:	Satan gets us confessing the things that aren't sins against God.

00:58:47 – 00:58:49:	And as soon as you do that, you have lost God.

00:58:49 – 00:58:51:	You have made a false confession.

00:58:51 – 00:58:53:	You were offering sacrifices.

00:58:53 – 00:58:54:	Yes.

00:58:54 – 00:59:01:	It is a first commandment violation to offer sacrifices to other gods, which is exactly

00:59:01 – 00:59:06:	what all these confessions of false sins are.

00:59:06 – 00:59:12:	But again, this goes back to the central point of this episode that Thomas Acord was

00:59:12 – 00:59:13:	a public figure on our political.

00:59:13 – 00:59:16:	And he was already hated for some of the things he said.

00:59:16 – 00:59:23:	But when his co-host published a book about Christian nationalism, the things that Thomas

00:59:23 – 00:59:28:	had also said about Christian nationalism on Twitter under a pseudonym suddenly became

00:59:28 – 00:59:30:	a way to destroy it.

00:59:30 – 00:59:33:	And the things that they want to destroy are the things that are true.

00:59:33 – 00:59:39:	And this gets back to what we're talking about earlier with Hans making his comments.

00:59:39 – 00:59:43:	And Larry calling us cowards, me in particular, because Larry doesn't know my name.

00:59:43 – 00:59:47:	So he can't call my pastor and say mean things about me.

00:59:47 – 00:59:49:	He has to just call me a coward online, which is fine.

00:59:49 – 00:59:50:	That's his right.

00:59:50 – 00:59:51:	It's sin.

00:59:51 – 00:59:56:	But we all have the right to quote unquote to sin.

59:56 – 01:00:00
The reason I said earlier that these pastors, I think, are hiding behind their collars is

01:00:00 – 01:00:06:	that there's an implicit presumption in the claims from men like Larry and Hans when

01:00:06 – 01:00:12:	they say, well, if you just used your name, you would proclaim the truth boldly.

01:00:12 – 01:00:17:	The implicit claim that they are making is that with their collars on, with their real

01:00:17 – 01:00:23:	names, they're making the boldest proclamation and that no one could possibly make a bolder

01:00:23 – 01:00:25:	proclamation than they are.

01:00:25 – 01:00:28:	And that's what's really playing out here.

01:00:28 – 01:00:34:	Because someone who's pseudonymous says something that is quote unquote further to the

01:00:34 – 01:00:41:	right than these men, rather than, as in the case of the Mrs. Lackey episode, rather

01:00:41 – 01:00:46:	than saying, well, yeah, it is actually a question whether girls should be teaching theology.

01:00:46 – 01:00:47:	What do they do?

01:00:47 – 01:00:48:	They punch right.

01:00:48 – 01:00:53:	Because suddenly there is a man who has emerged who is trying to be more godly than them.

01:00:53 – 01:00:58:	And there's nothing that pisses off a Christian faster than someone who seems to be less with

01:00:58 – 01:01:00:	sin than them.

01:01:00 – 01:01:07:	Now on one hand, there is the obvious scriptural warrant against claiming to be without sin,

01:01:07 – 01:01:09:	which none of us would do.

01:01:09 – 01:01:13:	I can start an entire podcast separately, spin off from this about what a terrible person

01:01:13 – 01:01:15:	I have been in my life.

01:01:15 – 01:01:20:	And all the sins I continue to struggle with, the fact that I'm here talking should never

01:01:20 – 01:01:24:	in anyone's mind imply that I think I'm free from any degree of sin.

01:01:24 – 01:01:25:	I know I'm terrible.

01:01:25 – 01:01:30:	I'm less terrible than I was a few years ago because I've begun to confront these things

01:01:30 – 01:01:31:	more directly.

01:01:31 – 01:01:36:	And I've begun to confront these things more directly by looking to scripture.

01:01:36 – 01:01:40:	And when I look to scripture, I find things like women to remain silent in the churches.

01:01:40 – 01:01:44:	I find things like women or to have their heads covered in church, which is another scandal

01:01:44 – 01:01:47:	that's brewing in Lutheran church.

01:01:47 – 01:01:54:	When men who are not pastors find these things that were, as you said, they were the norm

01:01:54 – 01:01:56:	before Vatican II.

01:01:56 – 01:02:01:	They were the norm in all of Christianity, not just Lutheranism, women covered their heads

01:02:01 – 01:02:02:	in the fifties.

01:02:02 – 01:02:05:	Women didn't vote.

01:02:05 – 01:02:07:	What a preposterous idea of voting in church.

01:02:07 – 01:02:08:	It's despicable.

01:02:08 – 01:02:14:	Yet, these things that are normative today that are defended vehemently are, they're an

01:02:14 – 01:02:15:	achronistic.

01:02:15 – 01:02:24:	They have no place in a church where these things have never had any any scriptural justification.

01:02:24 – 01:02:27:	So men read the Bible.

01:02:27 – 01:02:30:	They say, hey, pastor, this isn't what we're doing.

01:02:30 – 01:02:31:	What's the deal?

01:02:31 – 01:02:36:	Rather than the pastors having their, their conscience is convicted by the Holy Spirit,

01:02:36 – 01:02:39:	they punch right, they attack right, hard.

01:02:39 – 01:02:44:	They won't go after the alka pastors that they're buddy, buddy with on Twitter for having

01:02:44 – 01:02:51:	been ordained by women dressed up in drag as tranny pastors like Ryan Cordell, who's

01:02:51 – 01:02:53:	good friends with lots of buffalo Twitter.

01:02:53 – 01:02:57:	They won't go after them, even though they're an open or unrepentant sin.

01:02:57 – 01:03:02:	And they are in a synod that is going to hell collectively unless they become Christian

01:03:02 – 01:03:03:	again.

01:03:03 – 01:03:05:	No, they punch right.

01:03:05 – 01:03:09:	They go after the guy who says, hey, maybe we should be doing better than we are doing.

01:03:09 – 01:03:14:	Because for you to say that a Christian could possibly sin is the worst thing you can

01:03:14 – 01:03:19:	ever do to say that someone could possibly sin, these men take as evil.

01:03:19 – 01:03:21:	When it's not, it is Christian love.

01:03:21 – 01:03:23:	Is there a bad way to do it?

01:03:23 – 01:03:24:	Absolutely.

01:03:24 – 01:03:27:	They're terrible ways to say, man, I think you're sinning.

01:03:27 – 01:03:31:	We try to avoid those and sometimes it's a struggle to avoid them.

01:03:31 – 01:03:37:	But that gives no one the excuse not to make the clear confession of the faith that is

01:03:37 – 01:03:39:	commanded of every Christian.

01:03:39 – 01:03:43:	And if you can't confess boldly, shut your mouth.

01:03:43 – 01:03:48:	I don't fault someone who doesn't want to lose his job and his mortgage from saying nothing.

01:03:48 – 01:03:53:	But if you want to wait into these waters, you better say what God says.

01:03:53 – 01:03:56:	You better not attack men because they're doing a better job than you.

01:03:56 – 01:03:58:	And that's what we're facing today.

01:03:58 – 01:04:02:	And that's what the pseudonym and he fight is about is the men who are caught anonymous,

01:04:02 – 01:04:07:	the pseudonymous men who are speaking with the clarity of scripture that the pastors

01:04:07 – 01:04:10:	will not, they're putting them to shame.

01:04:10 – 01:04:15:	And I think these pastors know that they are shamed by the men who are speaking more clearly

01:04:15 – 01:04:16:	than they are.

01:04:16 – 01:04:21:	How many of these pastors who claim to be boldly confessing everything in scripture have

01:04:21 – 01:04:23:	women voting in their congregations?

01:04:23 – 01:04:26:	I would wager this probably the majority if not all of them.

01:04:26 – 01:04:27:	I don't know.

01:04:27 – 01:04:30:	You can find it on some of their websites.

01:04:30 – 01:04:32:	But that's an evil thing.

01:04:32 – 01:04:36:	That's an evil and anachronistic thing that has no place in the church.

01:04:36 – 01:04:38:	And yet it is normed today.

01:04:38 – 01:04:43:	And so these guys who are like, well, you and I, you should boldly confess like I am.

01:04:43 – 01:04:46:	And then they keep their mouth shut when this stuff is going on.

01:04:46 – 01:04:47:	Give me a break.

01:04:47 – 01:04:48:	That's not a bold confession.

01:04:48 – 01:04:50:	That's hiding behind your collar.

01:04:50 – 01:04:55:	Well, and how many are communing women who support abortion?

01:04:55 – 01:04:59:	Or men who support abortion or open communists?

01:04:59 – 01:05:06:	Or any of a number of extremely high profile, obvious explicit sins?

01:05:06 – 01:05:11:	How many pastors even address the issue of abortion?

01:05:11 – 01:05:18:	At most you may get a tangential throwaway line in a sermon that implies that maybe abortion

01:05:18 – 01:05:21:	isn't such a good idea.

01:05:21 – 01:05:25:	But how often are pastors actually addressing the things that they know will get them in

01:05:25 – 01:05:26:	hot water?

01:05:26 – 01:05:31:	Well, maybe there's something in scripture about hot or cold instead of lukewarm.

01:05:31 – 01:05:37:	And maybe these pastors should be concerned about what they are doing and are not doing.

01:05:37 – 01:05:39:	But like you said, they always punch right.

01:05:39 – 01:05:46:	And so is the hand of fellowship to the left and nothing but violence toward the right.

01:05:46 – 01:05:50:	Because they want to look good to themselves and to the world.

01:05:50 – 01:05:56:	They want to be friendly with the world and they don't want anyone who by contrast makes

01:05:56 – 01:06:00:	them look like, well, maybe you aren't actually that Christian.

01:06:00 – 01:06:05:	Maybe you aren't actually obeying what God says because it looks like this person over

01:06:05 – 01:06:09:	here is actually saying the same things we find in this book.

01:06:09 – 01:06:14:	And you are watering them down.

01:06:14 – 01:06:18:	I have to agree with the way you made the abortion point, but I think that there's a way to make

01:06:18 – 01:06:19:	it correct.

01:06:19 – 01:06:24:	My anecdotal experience in the LCMS has been that every congregation I've ever been a

01:06:24 – 01:06:28:	part of has been rabidly pro-life.

01:06:28 – 01:06:34:	They've been very active in protesting abortion and funding for care centers to help those

01:06:34 – 01:06:36:	who are considering abortions.

01:06:36 – 01:06:41:	But where I would absolutely agree with you, I think virtually every pastor falls down.

01:06:41 – 01:06:47:	It's called a woman who seeks an abortion, a murderer because the abortion is always

01:06:47 – 01:06:48:	about the doctor.

01:06:48 – 01:06:50:	It's always about saving the life of a baby.

01:06:50 – 01:06:56:	It's never about a mother, but it's never ever about a mother hiring a hip man to murder

01:06:56 – 01:07:02:	her child and whether or not there are any women in his congregation who have hired

01:07:02 – 01:07:06:	hip men, which is all an abortion, quote, unquote, doctor is to murder her child.

01:07:06 – 01:07:09:	Now, because women don't sin, right?

01:07:09 – 01:07:10:	Yeah.

01:07:10 – 01:07:18:	It's not chivalrous to say that they could possibly do anything yet.

01:07:18 – 01:07:26:	The point to make is that, and again, bold confession also has to be done with sanity.

01:07:26 – 01:07:31:	Everything that I say on this podcast is a sort of thing that I say in person to people

01:07:31 – 01:07:37:	when the situation arises, sometimes I keep my mouth shut because I'm not a spurg.

01:07:37 – 01:07:38:	I'm not insane.

01:07:38 – 01:07:43:	I know, based on the context and the people I'm dealing with, whether or not I can have

01:07:43 – 01:07:45:	a fruitful conversation.

01:07:45 – 01:07:52:	So if someone, if someone at my congregation is openly pro-feminist, am I going to go

01:07:52 – 01:07:57:	directly after the things that fly in the face of that?

01:07:57 – 01:07:58:	No.

01:07:58 – 01:07:59:	Not because it's not true.

01:07:59 – 01:08:03:	Not because I'm ashamed of my confession, but because I know that the only way to change

01:08:03 – 01:08:09:	a feminist heart is to go around to find some way to address those errors.

01:08:09 – 01:08:15:	And frankly, the way is to get back to headship, which yes, it necessarily implicates feminism,

01:08:15 – 01:08:17:	but it's not a direct attack.

01:08:17 – 01:08:22:	It becomes an attack when they realize what's going on, but by then you're having a scriptural

01:08:22 – 01:08:23:	conversation.

01:08:23 – 01:08:26:	You're not having a personal one of accusation.

01:08:26 – 01:08:30:	So that's the difference between personal conversations and ones that happen online.

01:08:30 – 01:08:35:	As we talked about in the teaching episode number one, there are one-to-one relationships

01:08:35 – 01:08:39:	and there are one-to-many relationships where you discuss these things.

01:08:39 – 01:08:43:	Posting on Twitter or on a podcast or elsewhere is inherently one-to-many.

01:08:43 – 01:08:51:	So I speak with my voice and say most everything that I think, as I can convey it to people

01:08:51 – 01:08:53:	who will be receptive.

01:08:53 – 01:08:55:	Do I say absolutely everything I think on this podcast?

01:08:55 – 01:08:56:	No.

01:08:56 – 01:08:57:	Because it wouldn't be fruitful.

01:08:57 – 01:09:01:	In private conversation, I'll have those conversations with individuals.

01:09:01 – 01:09:06:	But again, it's not a question of shame or that I think that I'm hiding my sin from God.

01:09:06 – 01:09:10:	I don't think those things are sinful, but there are things that would not be productive

01:09:10 – 01:09:11:	to say on a podcast.

01:09:11 – 01:09:15:	There are things that I believe that would get this podcast deleted from all the podcast

01:09:15 – 01:09:16:	listings.

01:09:16 – 01:09:22:	So I will skirt those lines, not out of shame or out of a fear of proclamation, but

01:09:22 – 01:09:26:	understanding if I get shut down, no one hears anything.

01:09:26 – 01:09:33:	So there's a time and a place to address things and I don't fall people for choosing their

01:09:33 – 01:09:39:	battles, but like I said, choosing your battles means keeping your mouth shut, which I will

01:09:39 – 01:09:40:	do.

01:09:40 – 01:09:44:	I'll keep my mouth shut when the situation calls for it.

01:09:44 – 01:09:48:	Choosing your battles is never about punching quote-unquote right.

01:09:48 – 01:09:51:	I think that we're discussing this a few days ago.

01:09:51 – 01:09:55:	I think the left right spectrum, we all agree, is just about worthless.

01:09:55 – 01:09:58:	But at the same time, you kind of know what somebody means.

01:09:58 – 01:10:02:	When someone's to the left, there's an implication there that you can clearly understand what's

01:10:02 – 01:10:03:	going on.

01:10:03 – 01:10:09:	I think that at the far left, you have absolute satanic debauchery.

01:10:09 – 01:10:13:	You have complete departure from everything that God wants.

01:10:13 – 01:10:19:	And the closer you get to the right, ultimately, the closer you get to God's will, which is

01:10:19 – 01:10:24:	not to say that what is on the quote-unquote far right is necessarily godly, because there

01:10:24 – 01:10:31:	are a lot of pagans in those places who are instinctively trying to seek out godly things

01:10:31 – 01:10:34:	without knowing God, and that's never going to work.

01:10:34 – 01:10:39:	They're always going to make a mess, which is why I initially began talking about my Christian

01:10:39 – 01:10:41:	faith on Twitter about five years ago.

01:10:41 – 01:10:46:	I rebranded from one account to another and started talking about my faith because I saw

01:10:46 – 01:10:47:	this very issue.

01:10:47 – 01:10:53:	I saw that the confusion of politics and theology was actively destructive and was doing harm

01:10:53 – 01:10:55:	in the world.

01:10:55 – 01:11:01:	And I saw these guys on the right who didn't have God, but they had godly instincts about

01:11:01 – 01:11:09:	family, about vocation, about justice that are true and correct and fit perfectly with

01:11:09 – 01:11:11:	in a Christian worldview.

01:11:11 – 01:11:16:	And I look and see pastors attacking them for saying those things.

01:11:16 – 01:11:19:	And all I can do is grasp my head and think, what are these men doing?

01:11:19 – 01:11:23:	Trying to drive these men away from the church who are seeking out God in the best way

01:11:23 – 01:11:29:	that anyone can, but the pastors attack them because they're talking about things that

01:11:29 – 01:11:34:	are more godly than anything the pastor is willing to uphold within his congregation.

01:11:34 – 01:11:36:	And that's what this fight is about.

01:11:36 – 01:11:42:	And someone is pseudonymous when they don't face the immediate destruction of their personal

01:11:42 – 01:11:49:	life, of their family, of their livelihood, of their physical safety, yes, you can say

01:11:49 – 01:11:50:	things.

01:11:50 – 01:11:55:	They can't be said by someone who has a gun pointed his head, no kidding.

01:11:55 – 01:12:03:	And so for pastors to call us cowards because we don't expose our names and faces is it

01:12:03 – 01:12:05:	is itself cowardly.

01:12:05 – 01:12:10:	And let them go attack the left, let them go attack the men who learn at the feet of

01:12:10 – 01:12:13:	Sodomites rather than rebuking them.

01:12:13 – 01:12:19:	And then we will have a conversation about who is closer to what God wants.

01:12:19 – 01:12:25:	I actually don't think I've seen a single pastor on Twitter incidentally attack the leftist

01:12:25 – 01:12:27:	who all use pseudonyms.

01:12:27 – 01:12:33:	It's always the right.

01:12:33 – 01:12:38:	And I think we would do well to look at scripture as always.

01:12:38 – 01:12:44:	I don't think that Christ called us to be as smart as sheep.

01:12:44 – 01:12:48:	He used a different term there for a good reason.

01:12:48 – 01:12:55:	Yeah, modern Christianity is all about the innocent of stubs and completely leaves out

01:12:55 – 01:12:57:	the wisest serpents part.

01:12:57 – 01:13:04:	And that's a tough saying like many of Jesus sayings because the serpent was the craftiest

01:13:04 – 01:13:10:	of all animals and Satan possessed one and caused this whole mess.

01:13:10 – 01:13:15:	But we are not to be stupid, we are not to be fools.

01:13:15 – 01:13:17:	Being foolish is damnable.

01:13:17 – 01:13:20:	It is a sin to be a fool.

01:13:20 – 01:13:21:	We'll send you to hell.

01:13:21 – 01:13:23:	There's clear about that.

01:13:23 – 01:13:29:	And I think that the modern conception of Christianity, even within Lutheranism, is

01:13:29 – 01:13:32:	to embrace foolishness.

01:13:32 – 01:13:36:	Now not directly, but it's always done for the sake of the gospel.

01:13:36 – 01:13:40:	Well, we need to be foolish so that these people can have more Jesus.

01:13:40 – 01:13:46:	Why are you trying to give Jesus to people who are unrepentant in their sin?

01:13:46 – 01:13:56:	The law gospel dichotomy is a valuable distinction, but it has to correctly admit that you don't

01:13:56 – 01:14:00:	give the gospel to people who deny the law.

01:14:00 – 01:14:06:	You may hold it out as a promise to those who will follow the law who understand the law.

01:14:06 – 01:14:13:	But to say to someone who's unrepentant in their sin, let me tell you about Jesus and

01:14:13 – 01:14:17:	how you're all forgiven, is incoherent because they're unrepentant.

01:14:17 – 01:14:19:	They're like, but I'm free from sin.

01:14:19 – 01:14:25:	You have to start with convicting the conscience before you can get to the absolution.

01:14:25 – 01:14:33:	And these pastors who flee from the pseudonymous are afraid of having their consciousness convicted.

01:14:33 – 01:14:35:	That's ultimately what they're fleeing from.

01:14:35 – 01:14:40:	They don't want to hear men speaking about Scripture in a way that might possibly

01:14:40 – 01:14:43:	convict their own words and actions.

01:14:43 – 01:14:48:	And that's not to say that we're sitting in judgment or that we are greater Christians

01:14:48 – 01:14:49:	by any measure.

01:14:49 – 01:14:55:	A pastor devotes his entire life to one of sacrifice on behalf of his sheep as a shepherd.

01:14:55 – 01:14:57:	I have tremendous respect for that.

01:14:57 – 01:15:03:	So as hard as you'll ever hear me be on pastors, it is precisely because of the importance

01:15:03 – 01:15:08:	of the pastorial office that we are so adamant that pastors must be faithful and must not

01:15:08 – 01:15:10:	make these errors.

01:15:10 – 01:15:16:	One of my friends pointed out this past week, the great irony that all these pastors whose

01:15:16 – 01:15:22:	salaries are paid by men who are anonymous online are telling them to become non-anonymous

01:15:22 – 01:15:24:	and get fired and lose their jobs.

01:15:24 – 01:15:28:	One of these pastors things is going to happen to their salaries when anybody gets fired.

01:15:28 – 01:15:32:	When the most faithful men in your congregations who understand the ontological nature of these

01:15:32 – 01:15:38:	fights, when they get fired by the Sodomite and their HR department for saying this

01:15:38 – 01:15:42:	Sodomy is damnable, who's going to pay your bills?

01:15:42 – 01:15:45:	How are you going to afford Christmas for your kids when everyone in your parish can't

01:15:45 – 01:15:47:	afford to donate anything?

01:15:47 – 01:15:49:	That's a real question.

01:15:49 – 01:15:53:	And that's what this fight comes down to is to say that the bold Christian confession

01:15:53 – 01:16:00:	has to be mindless is, it's exactly what Satan wants.

01:16:00 – 01:16:07:	Satan wants men to be as innocent as doves and as dumb as sheep.

01:16:07 – 01:16:12:	There's no wisdom permitted in the world to say in a seeking because as long as men one

01:16:12 – 01:16:20:	by one get sent into the meek grinder of Salilinski's personal destruction, no one will ever

01:16:20 – 01:16:23:	be able to join voices.

01:16:23 – 01:16:26:	And the fight over Christian nationalism and all these other things is fundamentally

01:16:26 – 01:16:31:	about keeping each of us atomized to make sure that there's no unity of voice, that there's

01:16:31 – 01:16:37:	no consistency, that we all one by one, you say you're weird little thing and then you get

01:16:37 – 01:16:41:	doxed and then you have to admit how terrible you were and what a dark place you were in

01:16:41 – 01:16:43:	your life when you said it.

01:16:43 – 01:16:46:	And then everyone says all shocks, that's too bad.

01:16:46 – 01:16:49:	And you get your gifts and go canceled and then you're destroyed for life.

01:16:49 – 01:16:53:	One by one they want us destroyed, they want us isolated and kept apart.

01:16:53 – 01:17:00:	And the whole point of Christian nationalism, the whole point of the push towards overt Christian

01:17:00 – 01:17:07:	unity in the subjection to God is to say, hey, if all of us sheep are together and heard,

01:17:07 – 01:17:12:	the wolves can't pick us off, we get picked off when we're separated from the herd.

01:17:12 – 01:17:16:	That's why the lost sheep was such a big deal because that one sheep of the 99 was out

01:17:16 – 01:17:18:	alone.

01:17:18 – 01:17:21:	And the 99 were safe, they were together.

01:17:21 – 01:17:25:	They were still dumb as sheep, but they had strength in numbers because there was unity

01:17:25 – 01:17:27:	of just the mass of them.

01:17:27 – 01:17:32:	It was the one sheep who was in danger because he was off alone fending for himself.

01:17:32 – 01:17:37:	And that's what Satan's trying to do to everyone, pick us off, destroy us, send examples

01:17:37 – 01:17:39:	so that no one else will ever stray.

01:17:39 – 01:17:44:	Only in this case, the straying is not from Christianity, but it's straying from our

01:17:44 – 01:17:46:	churches into Christianity.

01:17:46 – 01:17:52:	And that's the fight that this is about.

01:17:52 – 01:17:57:	So as we wrap this episode up, I want to make a shocking reveal to won't really be a

01:17:57 – 01:18:01:	shocked anyone who's actually paid close attention to previous episodes.

01:18:01 – 01:18:07:	But this is also an episode about headship as pretty much all of them have been.

01:18:07 – 01:18:14:	The way that headship interacts with pseudonymity versus knowing a man's name points us back

01:18:14 – 01:18:15:	to Scripture.

01:18:15 – 01:18:21:	When we look at the sixth day of creation in Genesis 2 where Adam was created, let me just

01:18:21 – 01:18:23:	read this briefly.

01:18:23 – 01:18:27:	Then the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone.

01:18:27 – 01:18:29:	I will make him a helper fit for him.

01:18:29 – 01:18:34:	Now out of the ground, the Lord God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of

01:18:34 – 01:18:38:	the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them.

01:18:38 – 01:18:42:	And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name.

01:18:42 – 01:18:46:	The man gave names to the livestock and to the birds of the heavens and every beast of

01:18:46 – 01:18:47:	the field.

01:18:47 – 01:18:50:	But for Adam, there was not found a helper fit for him.

01:18:50 – 01:18:53:	So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man.

01:18:53 – 01:18:58:	And while he slept, took one of his ribs and closed up his place with flesh.

01:18:58 – 01:19:02:	And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man, he made into a woman and brought

01:19:02 – 01:19:08:	her to the man, then the man said, this at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.

01:19:08 – 01:19:13:	She shall be called woman because she was taken out of man.

01:19:13 – 01:19:19:	Now note that in both cases there for all the animals and then for the woman who was

01:19:19 – 01:19:29:	created, Adam as the designative head of creation under God had authority over the creatures

01:19:29 – 01:19:32:	and over eve by virtue.

01:19:32 – 01:19:36:	And as a part of his headship, that included naming them.

01:19:36 – 01:19:42:	Now that's very significant because to have a name is to have some form of authority over

01:19:42 – 01:19:43:	it.

01:19:43 – 01:19:47:	You know, when you're talking to someone, one of the first things you do is you want to

01:19:47 – 01:19:48:	ask their name.

01:19:48 – 01:19:51:	And that's sort of the natural inclination online except that in a place where pseudonymity

01:19:51 – 01:19:55:	is completely normative, it kind of shifts gears.

01:19:55 – 01:19:59:	And so when pastors are saying, I need to know your real name.

01:19:59 – 01:20:05:	They're not simply as, as Corey mentioned earlier, they're not simply trying to clarify.

01:20:05 – 01:20:09:	They're attempting to assert authority over you.

01:20:09 – 01:20:15:	And we can see this made clear at the other end of the scripture in Revelation 19.

01:20:15 – 01:20:18:	Then I saw heaven opened and behold a white horse.

01:20:18 – 01:20:21:	The one sitting on it was, is called faithful and true.

01:20:21 – 01:20:24:	And in righteousness he judges and makes war.

01:20:24 – 01:20:28:	His eyes are like a flame of fire and on his head or many diadams.

01:20:28 – 01:20:32:	And he has a name written that no one knows but himself.

01:20:32 – 01:20:38:	Now, sometimes in the past Christians have sort of fixated on this secret name of God.

01:20:38 – 01:20:42:	It's not particularly the New Testament.

01:20:42 – 01:20:49:	The implication for us that there is a name of God that is not known to us is one of

01:20:49 – 01:20:50:	authority.

01:20:50 – 01:20:55:	God has not given us that name to call him by because it is his own.

01:20:55 – 01:20:59:	And he has authority because only he knows it.

01:20:59 – 01:21:03:	As exactly what, though, you're a pseudonymous coward thing comes down to.

01:21:03 – 01:21:07:	Is it pastors don't know our name so they don't have authority over us.

01:21:07 – 01:21:14:	And they seek to reveal that which is hidden from them as an act of dominance.

01:21:14 – 01:21:24:	So when we go back to Larry Bean and the other pastor on Goddastine said John Bussman related

01:21:24 – 01:21:27:	to synodemity, I just want to quote Larry again.

01:21:27 – 01:21:33:	He accused me and my friends of quote, approaching theology with a mindset of a cowering keyboard

01:21:33 – 01:21:36:	warrior using a pseudonym.

01:21:36 – 01:21:42:	Now this is particularly rich coming from Larry to say that you're a coward if you don't

01:21:42 – 01:21:44:	use your real name.

01:21:44 – 01:21:50:	Everybody implying that he who uses his real name has the strength and the courage that

01:21:50 – 01:21:55:	is denied to those who do not use the real name.

01:21:55 – 01:22:00:	This is funny because I know for a fact that Larry Bean is well aware of the demon that

01:22:00 – 01:22:02:	we mentioned last week.

01:22:02 – 01:22:07:	Rick McCafferty is a pulpit, it is a Lutheran pastor in our own pulpits.

01:22:07 – 01:22:10:	He is an open and unrepentant universalist.

01:22:10 – 01:22:13:	And Larry knows this, Larry's not about this for many months.

01:22:13 – 01:22:16:	Now Larry has never said anything about it on his blog.

01:22:16 – 01:22:19:	He's never said anything about Goddastine.

01:22:19 – 01:22:20:	He has multiple blogs.

01:22:20 – 01:22:21:	I couldn't find him saying anything anywhere.

01:22:21 – 01:22:25:	I don't care if he wrote a letter to Rick McCafferty's beat deep here or not, who by the

01:22:25 – 01:22:30:	way endorses this stuff because he put it on the district website.

01:22:30 – 01:22:38:	Larry is the coward here because Larry, rather than punching to his own level, going after

01:22:38 – 01:22:43:	pastors and pulpits that he shares by virtue of also being in the synod, there's a man

01:22:43 – 01:22:47:	who's a universalist who's going to hell and is going to take his sheep with him.

01:22:47 – 01:22:49:	Larry knows, Larry is silent.

01:22:49 – 01:22:51:	He's completely silent.

01:22:51 – 01:22:56:	I am naming Rick McCafferty and other anons have gone after him as well because no pastors

01:22:56 – 01:22:57:	will do it.

01:22:57 – 01:23:00:	Now tell me who's the coward.

01:23:00 – 01:23:03:	I'm using a pseudonym, but I'm naming a real man.

01:23:03 – 01:23:04:	Is that cowardly?

01:23:04 – 01:23:05:	No.

01:23:05 – 01:23:06:	The point is the church.

01:23:06 – 01:23:08:	The point is what's happening in the church.

01:23:08 – 01:23:15:	The reason that these men like Larry are pissed off that there are synonymous men addressing

01:23:15 – 01:23:20:	these issues is that the men like Larry are too afraid to do it because you know what?

01:23:20 – 01:23:27:	The Missouri Synod amended its bylaws to make it a corporate crime for a pastor to publicly

01:23:27 – 01:23:30:	denounce another pastor's faithlessness.

01:23:30 – 01:23:31:	That's evil.

01:23:31 – 01:23:33:	That is absolutely evil.

01:23:33 – 01:23:37:	This is an evil synod today that would say that a pastor is enjoined from addressing

01:23:37 – 01:23:39:	the error of others publicly.

01:23:39 – 01:23:42:	That has never happened in the history of theology.

01:23:42 – 01:23:47:	It's wound up in false interpretations of the 8th Commandment and Matthew 18 that have

01:23:47 – 01:23:50:	been roundly refuted for a long time.

01:23:50 – 01:23:54:	Goddastines that self-published something that I transcribed a number a month ago from

01:23:54 – 01:24:01:	Professor Markcord, who's sainted now, who clearly laid out that these claims that if

01:24:01 – 01:24:06:	a pastor or anyone else does something theological and you don't like it because it's not scriptural,

01:24:06 – 01:24:09:	you must approach them in private to deal with it.

01:24:09 – 01:24:10:	That's nonsense.

01:24:10 – 01:24:11:	It's not scriptural.

01:24:11 – 01:24:12:	It's not from God.

01:24:12 – 01:24:18:	What is is its camouflage and its cover for evil men to continue doing their evil things.

01:24:18 – 01:24:23:	So Corey, you and I are addressing these things publicly because they are public matters.

01:24:23 – 01:24:28:	Rick McCafferty is a public universalist and Larry Bean is a public coward for not naming

01:24:28 – 01:24:29:	him.

01:24:29 – 01:24:31:	Rather, he punches down.

01:24:31 – 01:24:36:	Ironically, the very men who are further to the right than him who are pseudonymous,

01:24:36 – 01:24:41:	who defend him when other pastors like Matt Stannock and Jeremy Stanky and some of these

01:24:41 – 01:24:48:	other vipers slander him for being a Confederate is Osad somehow that's a bad thing.

01:24:48 – 01:24:55:	When Larry respects his ancestors from the south, he's obeying the 4th Commandment, there's

01:24:55 – 01:24:57:	nothing evil about that.

01:24:57 – 01:25:01:	But just like these guys attack Christian nationalism, they attack all these other things

01:25:01 – 01:25:03:	in the attack racism.

01:25:03 – 01:25:06:	It is fundamentally all an attack on the church.

01:25:06 – 01:25:11:	So for Larry to be attacking a non's quote unquote, he's attacking the only guys in the

01:25:11 – 01:25:13:	Senate who actually have his back.

01:25:13 – 01:25:14:	And I have his back too.

01:25:14 – 01:25:15:	I really like Larry.

01:25:15 – 01:25:16:	I respect him a lot.

01:25:16 – 01:25:20:	By calling him out here, I'm not disavowing him or throwing under the bus.

01:25:20 – 01:25:29:	I'm simply pointing out that this misconstrual of pseudonymity as some vice or some weakness

01:25:29 – 01:25:30:	is nonsense.

01:25:30 – 01:25:34:	And it's punching to the right and it's attacking the very men who were the, frankly,

01:25:34 – 01:25:39:	the only ones who were actually fighting for what remains of the Senate's faithfulness.

01:25:39 – 01:25:44:	Goddastines is a great place and I like what they do, but they're fighting for the liturgy.

01:25:44 – 01:25:46:	That fight is in the revier mirror.

01:25:46 – 01:25:49:	We're fighting now for the first article.

01:25:49 – 01:25:51:	For whether or not we even believe in God anymore.

01:25:51 – 01:25:53:	That's what we're losing control of.

01:25:53 – 01:25:57:	I love the liturgy, but it's not protecting us from these universalists anymore than

01:25:57 – 01:26:02:	the Constitution has protected this country from people subverting it because when you

01:26:02 – 01:26:07:	take something like the liturgy or the Constitution, you can use it as cover for whatever you

01:26:07 – 01:26:08:	want to do.

01:26:08 – 01:26:13:	And addressing that is something that the Anons are doing, that the pseudonymists are doing.

01:26:13 – 01:26:18:	And I welcome the support of other pastors to get out in front of these things.

01:26:18 – 01:26:23:	Like we said on the very first episode, Cory and I are the stones who are crying out because

01:26:23 – 01:26:28:	these men, these pastors who are not anonymous are failing to do so.

01:26:28 – 01:26:32:	We would have nothing to say if these pastors who hate pseudonymity would just do their

01:26:32 – 01:26:34:	damn jobs.

01:26:34 – 01:26:39:	And if they think it's their job to punch down and to attack the pseudonymous men who

01:26:39 – 01:26:44:	are addressing theology, then they certainly must confess that it's their job to address

01:26:44 – 01:26:47:	universalists and vipers in their own pulpits.

01:26:47 – 01:26:48:	So let's see that happen.