“On Human Race: Foundational Matters”
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Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.
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I am Corey J. Moller.
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And I'm Woe.
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Today we are going to be discussing a subject that we have mentioned numerous times in previous
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episodes.
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That is race.
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This week's episode and next week's episode will both be specifically about the subject
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of race.
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Now before you delete this episode and fast forward and just say I don't want to hear
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that crap, I'd like to give a preamble and a plea to those who are listening to please
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bear with us before you decide that this is something that's just taxing on your mind
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and you don't want to hear it.
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It's understandable.
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If that was your first response, if you heard me say race and you're like, I'm out of
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here.
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I don't want to hear any of this stuff.
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There are basically three groups of people that you have ever heard discussing race in
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your life.
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First are the atheists.
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They're the scientists.
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They're the evolutionists who unfortunately have most of the data about these things, about
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the scientific.
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And again, as we've mentioned in the past, scientific means it's Gantia from Latin knowledge.
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Science is not simply about hypothesizing.
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It's not about theories.
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Science is fundamentally about facts.
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And while the atheist evolutionists, scientists who deal with the subject of race specifically
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in terms of genetics often have theories that are contrary to scripture, that doesn't
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mean that the underlying data is false.
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And so today we're going to be discussing the underlying data and we're going to present
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our own conclusions from that data that is consistent with scripture.
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So that's the reason you haven't heard this before.
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You haven't heard someone who's going to engage with the facts and then willing to look
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at scripture and see where they fit together.
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Because what a scientist discovers in a lab by looking at DNA is a real thing.
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It's actually true.
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And if they have evolutionary givens that cause them to apply false theories to reach incorrect
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conclusions, that doesn't mean that the data is bad.
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It means that their conclusions are bad.
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So we're going to discuss the data in our own terms and it's not that far from what
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they're saying, but it's probably pretty far from what you've heard before.
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So that's group one, the evolutionists.
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Group two that you've heard before are basically the Marxists, people who will not really let
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you pin them down on what race actually means.
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They'll just tell you that they'll basically use it as a weapon.
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They're going to swing some aspect of race or racism or whatever they're talking about
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specifically as a political cudgel within a conversation to demean one group or to elevate
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another group or to set true to groups against each other politically.
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And it's a huge turn off.
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It's incredibly aggravating.
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You've probably been on the receiving end of some of those lies.
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And so when you hear race, you think, I'm sick of this crap.
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I don't want to hear it anymore.
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That's not us.
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We're not evolutionists.
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We're not Marxists.
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We're not using this as a cudgel.
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And the third group is, frankly, probably the group that you were in as a Christian who
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I'm going to call you naive, but it's not meant to be demeaning.
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You're insulting.
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You've never looked at this stuff.
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You don't care.
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You don't think it applies to your life.
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And so you haven't delved deeply into the fact that underlie the history of the subject.
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The reason that that's a problem is that when a Christian ignores the facts related
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to race, as a Christian, you're going to then simply turn to
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the scripture.
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And so it's very easy for Christians who ignore the facts, look at scripture to reach
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and correct conclusions that sound scriptural, but they're nonsense.
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And we're doing this episode specifically to try to get people over the hurdle of saying
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things like one race, the human race.
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As though that precludes the possibility that there are subdivisions among humans.
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To say that that doesn't exist is to contradict scripture.
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And so this episode is actually going to be broken into two parts.
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Today, this first episode on race is specifically going to deal with the scientific basis.
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It's going to be an episode that's a little bit unusual from some of the others and that
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we don't talk much about scripture, but we're going to talk a fair amount about Genesis,
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particularly Genesis 1 through Genesis 11.
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So from the creation through the Tower of Babel, and then we'll extrapolate a little bit
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from then more into recorded human history as we get records from elsewhere in archeological
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evidence.
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But we're not going to rely very heavily on scripture.
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And in particular, we're not going to address any of the satirological disputes of the notions
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of race, of the claim of race, of the fact of race.
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So if as we're going along, you have in mind Galatians 3.28, which said that there's neither
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Jew nor Greek, there's neither slave, nor free.
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There is no male and female for all in one in Christ Jesus.
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I'm going to ask you for the sake of argument to simply set that aside.
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We're going to address it in the second episode.
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We're going to address it in detail.
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That could be an episode all by itself.
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We could do multiple episodes just on Galatians 3.28.
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We're not going to address it today.
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So if as we go along, you find yourself shouting at your phone or whatever, there's neither
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Jew nor Greek, we're going to get to that.
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That's not remotely what that passage means.
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It's not a refutation of what we're saying in this episode.
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So that's basically just a preamble as a plea to hear the whole thing out before you
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decide that we fall into one of the first two buckets of either the evolutionists or
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the Marxists, which is what some people online, particularly a number of pastors have accused
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us of, mainly to discredit us and say that we're hateful and we're not Christian at all.
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Cory and I fall into a fourth group.
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Men that have looked at this stuff have studied it because we see that the world cares.
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We see that Satan cares.
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You as a Christian may not think their race has anything to do with your life or with salvation
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or with how God operates in the world, Satan feels differently.
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And you can tell that even right this moment before you've heard anything else we have
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to say in any of our arguments, you can tell the Satan cares because you can't get away
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from this damn subject.
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That tells you that Satan has a skin in the game when it comes to the subject of race.
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Now the hurdle that we're hoping to get people over is the idea that talking about it
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at all is evil.
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We obviously don't believe that or we would be talking about it.
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If we believe that we were saying something evil, you know, if we were Christians we would
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shut our mouths.
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We wouldn't say it.
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So I simply ask for you to bear with us for this episode and the next episode.
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And if at the end of that you find that we have been evolutionists and Marxists all along,
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that's fine.
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You can reach that conclusion.
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Just hear our argument first.
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So with that out of the way, we're going to begin with, as I mentioned, the first fundamental
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misconception that is widely applied among Christians.
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And that is that there is one race, the human race.
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And so the argument that we often hear from Christians when it comes to race as stated
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as one race, the human race.
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And the underlying argument for that is that because we are all ultimately descended from
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Adam, we are all of the race of Adam.
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The problem with that statement is that it is both true and false.
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It is true because the speak of men as the race of Adam is accurate.
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But to then conclude from that, that all men are of the same race is to equivocate with
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regard to the term race.
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Race can refer to various levels in the hierarchy in the ancestry of a particular life form.
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And so for instance, a good example would be you can speak of the race of dogs, usually
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for dogs.
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Yes, we call them breed instead, but it's the same thing, same concept here.
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If you speak of the breed of golden retriever, you are speaking of something more specific
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than just dog.
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They're all dogs.
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So a golden retriever, a pomeranian, a rot-viler, these are all dogs.
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But they are different breeds of dog.
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The same for humans, you can speak of the race of Adam, human beings as being one species,
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because we are in fact one species by any reasonable definition of that term, all of humanity, one
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species, the race of Adam.
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But we have over time, according to God's good ordering of creation, become separate
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races distinct from each other.
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Because as we moved, we adapted to the areas where we started to live.
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God designed it that way.
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It's very clear, He gave us the order, be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue
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it.
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That was what we were supposed to do.
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Different groups moved to different areas.
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And so as that happened, you have the creation of the different races as they exist today.
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Now of course, the real genesis of this is in Genesis, is right after the flood.
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And the reason we have a real break there is because you have obviously, from Adam and
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Eve, up into the time of the flood.
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You have man proliferating over the face of the earth, there are various genetic differences
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over time.
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We don't know as much about the anti-deluvians as we do about those who've come after
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the flood, of course, that would be us in the latter category, but you have a bottleneck.
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And that bottleneck is Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives.
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We don't know the genealogy of their wives.
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Much of the genetic variation we see today probably came from the wives of Noah's sons,
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because obviously Noah's sons very closely genetically related.
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The wives, not necessarily so closely related.
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And they spread out after they got off the arc.
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The arc came to land in Mount Ararat, which our best guess is Eastern Turkey, or maybe
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a little over the border of Turkey, right in that area.
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And that bears out.
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If you look at the DNA of the various human groups, if you look at how related we are into
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whom we're related, you can see that we spread out from basically Turkey.
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The old out of Africa hypothesis was not wildly wrong.
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It was off by several thousand miles, because the arc came to land in roughly modern day
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Turkey.
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Europeans are descended from J-5th.
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J-5th moved north and west, filled Europe.
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Eventually some became sailors and also filled the southern end of the Mediterranean, which
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would be North Africa.
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The Shemites stayed in the Middle East and also moved eastward into what is today Asia,
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and the Hamites moved south through Egypt and then into Africa.
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Probably assumed that the Sahara was not quite as big at the time, so it was more passable.
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And that is how you end up with the modern racial groups.
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They spread out from Noah's Ark, descended from the three patriarchs, and so you have essentially
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three major groupings of human beings, major divisions of human races.
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Within that, yes, you have smaller divisions to go back again to the term of race and what
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it means going from the smallest up to the greatest.
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You could speak of the race of Germans.
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Then you could speak of the Germanic race, which would include the English and the Dutch
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and others.
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Then you could speak of the japhithic race, which would be Europeans, descended from J-5th.
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Then you could speak of either Noah or Adamic race, which would be all men.
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And so it's important to note how the term is being used and not to equivocate, not to
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conflate the different senses of this term, because that is often deliberately misleading,
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but in many cases for Christians, it is unintentionally misleading because there is a use of a term
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as if it were univocal when it is not.
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I think one of the toughest things that Christians have to face when looking seriously at the
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data about these matters is that, as I said, group one, the atheists and the evolutionists
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who do most of the research, who control most of the publication.
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Historically, they haven't lied about the data, although that's happening today just
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in the last five and ten years.
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There's more deliberate fudging of the data, specifically to accord with what Christians
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claim as their own morality to say one race, the human race.
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Today, the scientists are now saying the same thing, and they're altering their data to
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achieve that desired outcome when the data doesn't support it.
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So as you delve into this, it's a real challenge because you're forced to listen to people
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who are going to reach incorrect conclusions based on their faulty givens.
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And most people are not really equipped to sort the good from the bad.
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To look at data that itself is sound is solid, like for example, genetic data that bears
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out what Cori just said about three different racial groups that are present in genetic data.
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You can look at someone's genes and determine, based on statistical analysis, which of those
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major buckets they fall into.
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And in fact, with a reasonable probability, which of the smaller buckets they fall into,
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it's not 100% certain, but even when it's off by a bit, it's not going to be off by much.
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You're not going to look at the DNA of a German in Mistake him for a gonon.
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You will mistake him for a Frenchman.
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You could mistake him for an Englishman.
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You're probably not going to mistake him for a Bosnian.
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And again, you're not going to mistake him as Japanese, even at the genetic level.
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You have no idea where it came from.
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It's just it's a blood sample that from what you extracted DNA or epithelial wear, wherever
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you get your DNA sample, when you profile it, this stuff is present.
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And so you don't need to be a Christian to look at the data.
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And that's a hard part of this conversation because as I said, the evolutionary atheists
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who are crunching the numbers will then reach evolutionary atheist conclusions.
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And for a Christian, when you're looking at it, you're faced with sorting the true
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data from the false conclusions and the temptation is just to say, ah, this is all crap.
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Because what you're looking at is a scientist who will say that the universe is 14 billion
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years old, earth is four and a half billion years old.
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Life is a couple billion years old and you had proteins that somehow became cells and
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then a cell became a fish and then a fish became a monkey and a monkey became a man and
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a man became a race of men.
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And as a Christian, you know that almost all of that is nonsense.
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The earth is 6,000 years old and all the DNA in our bodies comes from Adam and comes
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from Noah in the wives of Noah's sons.
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That's a scriptural fact.
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It's also a scientific fact.
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What the scientists get wrong are the time frames that are involved.
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And so when you're looking at the raw data, you're going to find a bunch of erroneous
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conclusions.
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And I think that for a lot of people, we're doing this episode in the hope that you can
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at least take a basis for being able to understand these questions in a Christian fashion that
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is not at odds with the scientific facts.
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If at the end of this you just throw up your hands and say, I have no idea what's going
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on.
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I can't make heads or tails out of it.
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Honestly that's okay.
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Not everyone is equipped to be able to actually wrap their heads around this stuff.
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What I would say to you is that if you personally get to the end of what we're saying and say,
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I can't make heads or tails of it, that's fine, but you should in the future when you
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hear discussions of race refrain from participating.
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Because what you're saying is I don't know enough to even be able to reach conclusion.
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What we're trying to say is that there are conclusions that can be reached that are consistent
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with Scripture that are also consistent with the facts.
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Because guess what?
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That's what the truth means.
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The truth from God, the truth that is revealed in Scripture and the truth that is revealed
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in creation are all of one spirit.
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It's all the same thing.
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And the fact that there are scientists who are atheists who come along and butcher the
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facts of creation doesn't alter creation.
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It just means that they're telling lies about it.
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And so as we discuss this, it's important to tease those out.
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So as Corey said, everything became with Adam, began with Adam.
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All of the genes in every single human being today came from within Adam's body.
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Eve was created from Adam.
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We have no reason to believe that there is any portion of Eve that did not come directly
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from him.
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In fact, I would say it is arguably a heresy to say that there is a single cell in her
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body that was not derived from Adam.
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Now it's important to note when as we go down this path that when we're talking about
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inheritance and we're talking about relation, you get half of your DNA from your father and
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half of your DNA from your mother.
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What that implies is that half of your father's DNA is not inside you because the other half
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came from your mother.
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You have 46 chromosomes.
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You get 23 from each of them.
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As you go back generationally, you know, when you go back generations or powers of two,
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so one generation back means that 50, 50, that's one half.
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Two generations back is one quarter, so 25%.
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If you go back seven generations, you're less than one percent because two to the seventh
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is 128.
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So you're looking at one 128th of the available genetic data from your great, great, great,
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great grandfather in your own body.
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What that means is that there's a 50, 50 chance that you'll have a shot of having some
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of their DNA in you.
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Now this is important for two reasons.
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One, it's possible if you go back far enough that you may not have any of the specific genes
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from one of your own ancestors.
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This is very common.
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It's something that shows up when genetic analysis is being done.
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If you go back not too many generations, it's possible simply to lose the thread of
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relation, not because you're not related to them, but just that there were no specific
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genes coming from them.
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On the other hand, the second vital point is that all humans are approximately something
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like 99.2, 99.5% the same genetically.
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This is one of the arguments that's made for one race, the human race, saying all the
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genetic variation among various human groups is in that last half percent.
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The reason that's misleading is that chimpanzees are about 98.8% the same as human DNA, which
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is why the evolutionary scientists will say fish monkey man race because they see the similarity
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between the monkey and the man and say, well, clearly they came from the same place.
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It's Christians we know that's not the case.
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And even more ridiculously, dogs are 94%.
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Is it one race, the mammal race, cats are 90% and to give people an idea of how little
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DNA varies even across species, fruit flies are 60% the same as human beings.
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So it does not take a huge difference in order to, well, it doesn't take a huge difference
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genetically in order to have a significant difference phenotypically, which is the expression
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of course of the genotype.
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Yep.
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In fact, in some cases for humans, it can be as little as one base pair.
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Yes.
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What that tells us is that God likes patterns, He likes repetition.
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We see this everywhere in the universe.
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Galaxies all have similar structures.
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Galaxies all have different structures too, but there are variations on a theme.
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It's just like Beethoven or Bach, when they're writing their magnificent works, they will
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begin with a phrase and then they'll build it and they'll evolve it and they'll grow it
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into something magnificent and then they'll start all over again and they'll do the same
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sort of process and reach something that begins with the same basic theme, the same phrase,
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but it takes it in a very different direction.
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But you'll hear those same echoes throughout the entire piece.
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That's a reflection of what God does in creation.
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So the fact that monkeys are 98.8%, the same as humans, doesn't mean that we're related
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in the sense that we have a common ancestor.
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It means that we're related by the fact that we have the same creator and God created
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mammals in one sense and then He created lobsters and He created all these weird things
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to have all these varieties and variations.
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It's according to God's good creation and we can say that Chihuahua and a healer are
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subspecies, we're terrified to say that human races are subspecies.
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We completely preclude the idea of subspecies when talking about human beings.
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In part because of the implications, does it mean that an African somehow has a different
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degree of value than a European or an Asian?
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That's a moral question.
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And the answer before God is no, that's never going to be an argument.
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You're going to hear from either of us.
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Jesus died for all homo sapiens.
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Jesus died for every descendant of Adam.
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That's all of us.
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Regardless of any of these differences that we're talking about in these episodes, we will
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never make any argument that says, well, this man is different than from this man.
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Or God cares about this man and doesn't care about this man.
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That's absolutely the polar opposite of why we're talking about it in the first place.
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We're talking about it because Satan is using this as a wedge to divide Christ's church
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and to divide all of humanity in ways that are unnatural.
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Now there are natural divisions and that is what race is.
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Race is a natural division.
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As you look from Babel, what was the story of Babel?
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The people who all share the common language when they were told by God be fruitful and
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multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, they said, no, we're not going anywhere.
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We're going to build a tower that's going to be a monument to our own greatness.
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It's going to keep us together in this place and we will be as God.
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We will be magnificent and everyone will respect us for how unified we are.
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That is the spirit of this age.
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One race, the human race is the cry of Babel.
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God was so infuriated at the evil of Babel that he came down to earth and he deliberately
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confused the languages of men so that they couldn't talk to each other anymore.
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Suddenly one man could not speak to another at all.
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You have one guy speaking proto-traumatic and another guy speaking proto-Japanese.
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They're aliens to each other.
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Even though by blood they're related, God said, you know what?
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You didn't go your separate ways.
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I'm going to separate you because you're never going to be able to communicate again.
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They did.
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That was what it finally took was the division of language to separate groups which were
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then still fairly closely related because they'd only recently come off the ark.
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We know how many generations, but it wasn't very long.
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Those people were scattered across the face of the earth by God because they were crying
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one race, the human race.
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God said, this is evil.
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I am stopping it now.
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That's what did he do according to Acts 1726.
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He appointed the boundaries of men and the boundaries of the dwelling places and the numbers
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of their days.
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He said, you're going to go here and you're going to go there.
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As I mentioned before, you can look at a topographical map of Europe and you can see Norway
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Sweden and Finland from space in the topography.
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You can see the mountain range that divide the Norsemen from the suite.
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You can see the mountain range that divides the Portuguese from the Spanish.
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If you just look at a political map of Portugal in Spain, why is that little sliver there
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as a separate country?
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Never made any sense to me.
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I was many years old when I finally saw this topographical map and like, holy crap,
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I see Portugal.
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Now God did that.
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God made those mountain ranges and He sent men to those places.
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And what happened when they went to those places?
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They became isolated.
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They were isolated by language as God ordained.
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And then through the process of interbreeding and intermarrying, the genetic content in their
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bodies became winnowed.
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So the men who were descended from Adam and from Noah who went to Norway got more and more
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pale because the genes for them to lose the expression of formalinan that would cause
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them to reject most vitamin D in their skins went away.
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Now a Norseman who moves to the equator is not going to suddenly turn black again.
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It was a one way trip just as you cannot take a chihuahua and turn him back into a wolf.
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Even though I think that personally I think it's arguable that if you look at the species
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that were on the ark, I don't think that you had a wolf in a coyote and a German shepherd,
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even though those all look very similar.
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They all have a same common ancestor and see that the evolutionist will tell you that
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ancestor is tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of years in the past.
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The Christian will say, well the earth is about 6,000 years old so that doesn't make sense.
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And all the mammals were killed except for those that were two by two on the ark.
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So 4,500 years ago we have this choke point where all the genes of all the creatures that
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live on land or fly were placed on the ark.
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Personally I believe that there was a wolf or a proto wolf on the ark and that all of
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the speciation of the wolf, the coyote, the dog, the fox.
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Everything downstream from the wolf classification genetically came from that pair.
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And as they went their separate ways and they went to their separate areas where God
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had ordained for the Arctic fox to live here and the desert fox to live here.
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They're both foxes but they're very differently equipped genetically and human beings work
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the same way.
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Not that we're foxes, not that we're dogs but that we're creatures.
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That we're God's creatures and in his infinite wisdom he gave Adam the genetic material to
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fill the entire earth.
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So when we talk about race it is not a denial of creation.
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It's not a denial of the sixth day creation or of the 6,000 year history of earth.
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And it's not to say that human beings are just another animal like all the rest but we
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do behave in similar ways because we're all made from the same stuff.
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And the genes that God gave us work in the same ways.
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And one of the values of looking at things like dogs is because they have much shorter
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gestational periods.
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You can get most of the dog species subspecies today didn't exist 200 years ago.
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They all have a common ancestor that's almost in living memory.
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If you get a really old person who remembers another really old person from their family
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they can probably that person would be able to remember the ancestor of all the dogs today
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even though that person 200 years ago if he looked at a chihuahua and looked at the
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same Bernard like what is this stuff I have no idea looks like nothing I've ever seen.
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Genetically they all came from the same place.
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We're talking about the same thing with people and it's not a denial of humanity and it's
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not a denial of salvation it's saying that this is how God has chosen to work in the
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last 4500 years since the flood in human lives and that's one of the big hurdles because
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the data sounds atheist but the conclusions are entirely consistent with scripture and
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they're also entirely consistent with observable reality.
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And that's something that I hope people will take away from this discussion is that we're
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not talking about theories, we're not talking about hypotheses, we're talking about measurable
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discernible facts and ones that actually have consequences and we'll deal with those
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consequences in future episodes but first we need to establish that this stuff is actually
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real and it's not a threat to your faith to look at it as a real thing.
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In fact, the real denial of the faith comes from denying these things because if you
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deny the reality of human race or these distinctions, these differences, what God did in time
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in the physical world, really that's a form of nosticism because you are denying the reality
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of the flesh and so that is a violation of the first article of the creed.
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But I think possibly this is a good time to do just a quick biology lesson to give those
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who haven't had biology in a while or perhaps never took it, a bit of the fundamentals,
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the mechanics here, how this actually works and plays out in reality.
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And so there are some terms it is important to know.
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I would hope people are familiar with a few of the terms here but one in particular that
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is important is haplogroup.
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And a haplogroup is basically a group of people who share a common ancestor.
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It's defined as a certain number of alleles that tend to be inherited together, alleles
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being a different form of a gene.
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You can have different forms of the same gene if it's a different one that's an allele.
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And so you can look at a map of haplogroups and you can see race on that map.
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But two of the most important types of haplogroups and we'll put some images of these in the
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show notes would be according to mitochondrial DNA and according to Y chromosome DNA.
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And the reason that these two are important is because mitochondrial DNA is inherited
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from the mother alone.
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You do not get your mitochondrial DNA from your father.
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You get it from your mother because the mitochondrial DNA that comes from the sperm is destroyed in
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the ovum it is not passed on.
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Only the mitochondrial DNA from the mother is passed on.
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And so we have a mitochondrial eve.
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There is a woman at some point in history from whom all mitochondrial DNA comes.
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And of course that in the Christian case is eve is why she's called mitochondrial eve.
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Now mitochondrial DNA can mutate over time because really any DNA can mutate over time.
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Not all mutations are beneficial, most are harmful.
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But some of the mutations are either neutral or they don't harm the organism in such a way
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that it doesn't carry on.
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And so that will carry on to successive generations.
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That's the sort of mutation that does not terminate a line.
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It will continue.
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Mitochondrial DNA is very stable.
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We aren't certain how stable yet, but there are some studies that estimate that it mutates
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as infrequently as once every 8,000 years.
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Now of course, being Christians again, we know the earth is about 6,000 years old.
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This is the year of our Lord 6,027 give or take two or three years.
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So they're probably off by a little bit on the rate of mutation, but the point is that
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it is very stable.
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There's very little mutation in mitochondrial DNA.
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The other group is Y chromosome DNA.
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Hopefully those who've taken biology remember that women have two X chromosomes and men
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have an X and a Y chromosome.
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And so obviously you have to inherit your Y chromosome from your father.
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Y chromosomes do not really recombine.
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And now what recombining is, when you get your genetic information, you get half from
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your mother and half from your father, the chromosomes that match.
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So if it's the same chromosome, chromosome 5 from each parent, whatever it happens to be,
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there can be recombination where DNA can get swapped back and forth.
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And that's some of how you get genetic variance in populations over time is recombination.
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The Y chromosome recombines very little.
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It only recombines on a tail where it matches with the X chromosome that you receive from
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the mother, 95% of the Y chromosome does not recombine.
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And so you wind up having a relative stability in inheritable Y chromosome DNA over time.
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And so you can define human groups according to the Y chromosome because you can look back
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to a common male ancestor from whom this population inherited that chromosome.
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However, the Y chromosome mutates much more frequently, much more quickly than mitochondrial
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DNA.
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You get a mutation every generation or so in the Y chromosome.
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Now it's a small mutation.
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But this can be tracked over time.
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What that means is you can tell how groups split from each other over time as human being
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spread out over the surface of the earth.
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And so if you look at these two maps, together you can pretty much tell exactly where the
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races are delineated, simply on the basis of Y chromosome haplogroups and mitochondrial
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DNA haplogroups.
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And again, we will put the images of this in the show notes.
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You can literally look at it and go, I can see the jaffa thites on here.
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I can see the hamites on here.
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I can see the shemites on here.
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I can see Germanic Europe versus Slavic Europe versus Celtic Europe.
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These are real things that can be seen and tested in the real world.
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And they do not disagree with our faith whatsoever because they actually prove, again, it's
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further proof of the truth of the scriptures because you can see the groups that spread
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out from the ark.
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You can actually see a confirmation of what scripture says playing out in the real world
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as God designed it.
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We mentioned the show notes a lot and I hope that you're checking those every week.
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I hope you're clicking through the URL to look.
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This is a podcast that has homework.
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Now, you don't need to go look at the stuff in order to like follow up on future episodes.
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So it's not, it's a homework that's created.
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But in some cases, at least half of the episode isn't anything that we say, but it's a stuff
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that we like.
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So if you get value out of what we're saying, this episode and the next couple episodes
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in particular, please click through and look at this stuff so you can see for yourselves
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because this is an audio presentation and where this is a superficial look at this stuff.
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We're not going super in depth because frankly, it's not important for the purpose of these
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conversations.
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This conversation, this episode is specifically making the case that race is a real thing.
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So if you have gone around and said one race, the human race, which is very common, people
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say without a guilty conscience, they think that they're being Christian.
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That's part of why we're refuting it is that it's not a Christian say thing to say, but
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it sounds Christian.
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It's important as Christians to tell the truth.
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And the fact that Satan is attacking this specific area of the truth should be an indication
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to every Christian that there's something going on here that matters.
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Now in the episode that we did on Christian nationalism and in the episode that we did
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on election, both of those we talked of some length in part, probably about 20 minutes
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in each episode.
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We talked about some of these things about how race and ancestry are concentric circles.
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So the notion, and this is this was present I mentioned in a previous episode in the
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Webster 1828 definition of race or of nation.
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It specifically addresses the fact that there were the race of Adam and the Jews are the
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race of Abraham that we as Europeans are the race of Japheth.
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And then as you go on down, those races get smaller.
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And one of the common false arguments that's a cheap shot and it's dishonest, but it sounds
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convincing superficially is that well, how can a German and a Dutchman be a separate
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race if European and African are a separate race?
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None of it makes any sense.
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Like you hear people say that that well, if there's this sort of continuum, I can't make
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sense of any of it, none of it must exist.
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That's just facially nonsense.
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The fact that you have a mother and a father and that your third cousins have a different
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mother and father and yet that you have a common great-grandparent, however far back
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it goes, doesn't mean you're not related, it just means that you're related to a different
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degree than your immediate cousin or your brother or sister.
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These degrees of relation are the basis of race.
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Now there's the discussion of the subject.
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One of the things that will come up is that there are people who say nobody even talked
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about any of this stuff until Charles Darwin invented the origin of species and invented
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evolution in 1859 and suddenly everyone started talking about race and never existed before
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that.
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That's a bald face lie.
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It's such a laughably retarded lie that it beggars belief that it even exists and
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yet there's some fairly intelligent people superficially who will say things like that, not
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because it's true, because it's a conversation killing lie that no one is going to fight
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them over.
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You can go back to Aristotle and see him discussing ethnicity and he broke it down into culture,
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language and genetics, which is a good way of breaking it down.
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As Cory mentioned, the Germans and the Dutch are genetically almost indistinguishable.
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If you look at genes, you're probably not going to be able to tell someone who's Dutch
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from someone who's German, yet if you talk to him for 30 seconds, you can clearly tell
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the difference.
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And in many cases, you might be able to tell just by looking because there are differences
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that there are a lot of things about genetics that we don't understand yet.
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That doesn't mean it's not real, it just means we don't know what's going on.
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The fact of ignorance of a man does not disprove the reality of a fact.
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It simply means that what we see with our own eyes, we don't yet have a downstream
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explanation for it.
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It's okay not to know, but it's not okay to lie because you don't know.
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So it is true that there is no one gene for race.
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And we'll get into this more in a little bit, but the reason that there's no one gene
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is that race is so inextricably linked to who you are as a human being, as a man or
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woman that God created in time from all of those fathers and all of those mothers going
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all the way back to the flood and back to Adam.
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There's such an intrinsic part of you that is from that winnowing process.
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That's the reason there's no race gene.
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That's the reason there's no skin color gene, which is another lie that we'll get to in
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a minute.
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These are not superficial things.
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These are things that are so deeply embedded in us that we don't yet understand how deep
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they go.
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That doesn't mean that they don't exist at all.
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It just means that as current year science looks at genetic data, it doesn't know where
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to find it.
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And it doesn't know where to find it because there's so much of it that we don't yet understand.
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So looking at these things and saying, well, we don't understand, doesn't preclude the
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existence of the thing.
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It just means we don't have an explanation.
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And it's okay as a Christian to leave it at that.
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There are lots of things we don't have explanations for that doesn't mean their false.
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In the fact that some of these discussions are coming from atheists and from evolutionists
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who have harmful intent in mind when they spread their lying conclusions, doesn't undermine
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the reality of the created order that God has given for all of us to observe.
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And that's the important part of this.
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So to expand on, you brought up skin color, it's a good place to expand on that since
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we just went over the genetics as well.
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There are those who will try to argue that because you see different skin tones in different
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parts of the world, despite them clearly being different races, which is interesting.
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They're importing that assumption in there.
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But for instance, there are fair skin Japanese.
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There are fair skin Europeans.
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There are many fair skin people in the Middle East, even to this day, despite the various
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conquests that have taken place since the time of the New Testament.
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But it is not skin color that is the determiner of race.
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It is genetic descent that is the determiner of race.
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And that's why we speak of the race of japheth or the race of shem or the race of ham.
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It is because a race is founded by a founding stock.
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Now the genes that express and cause skin color may be shared across people groups.
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As mentioned, there are fair skin peoples in various parts of the world.
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There are dark skinned people in various parts of the world.
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There is some genetic relation between the Aborigines in Australia and sub-Saharan Africans.
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But they are distinct people groups, despite having the same skin tone.
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Because race is not skin tone, skin tone is part of your phenotype.
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And again, your phenotype is the physical expression of your genotype.
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Your genotype is your genetics.
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Now, there's more to heritability than genetics, but we won't get into that now.
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And quite frankly, even the sciences aren't yet settled on what exactly and how exactly
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that works.
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So genetics DNA is good enough for our purposes.
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But race is not your skin color.
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Skin color is not your race.
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Because it is more than that.
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You are who and what you are because of quite a lot of things that came together historically
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to make your people unique.
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You are a member of that group because God saw fit to make you a member of that group.
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That was part of his plan.
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All of these genetic differences between the various races of men existed in Adam.
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They were part of God's plan from the beginning.
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And so there are those who will tell you that race is a punishment from God as part of
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the Tower of Babel.
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And that is lying about God that is high-handed sin.
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Christians should never let those words pass their lips.
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The various races of men are part of God's plan because God intended for us to spread
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over the face of the world, adapt to the area in which we live, to be fruitful and multiply.
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And he built into Adam the ability to do that.
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And that is what has taken place.
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And so part of that, of course, is going to be skin tone.
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And if you want to look at the explanation for skin tone, it's very easy.
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Pull up a map of human skin tones.
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You'll see that it is simply a matter of how far you are away from or how close you
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are to the equator.
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And the reason for that is very simple.
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If you get farther away from the equator, you need to be able to absorb more sunlight
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for various biological processes.
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And so if you have more melanin in your skin, if you have darker skin, you are going
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to have a problem producing certain vitamins and other things.
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And you are going to have health problems because of that.
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So you need fair skin to let the sunlight pass through.
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If you are close to the equator, you are going to get plenty of sunlight.
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If you are as fair skinned as a sweet or a Norwegian, and you're living on the equator,
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you are going to get sunburned.
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That's not advantageous unless you live there long enough and are able to tan, of course.
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And so that's all skin tone is.
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When we speak about race, we're not speaking about skin tone.
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skin tone is part of the equation.
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It is simply what God built into humanity so that we could live anywhere on the planet.
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Instead of just having one skin tone and having to live in a narrow latitude.
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And the reason that's important to discuss skin color first is because one of the most
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common deceptions, and frankly one of the laziest things that is said, even among people
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who know what's going on, is to call some people white and other people black.
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You know what someone, it means when they say that, but it's a dangerous frame because
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it begs the question that that's all races.
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That if someone were lighter, they wouldn't be black anymore.
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You can Google pictures of albinoes of various races.
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You can have albinoes where they have identical skin tone.
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You can clearly tell who's white.
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You can tell who's Asian and you can tell who's African because you know what?
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There's a lot more going on and it's not just facial features.
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It's not just distinguishing eye shape or jaw shape or skull shape, although all those
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things are true.
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There is a tremendous amount going on by virtue of genetic variation in each of the distinct
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races and we begin with the color question because it's such an on-sense because one
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of the most common arguments against us will be, you don't like people who look different.
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You don't like people with different skin color.
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That's just stupid.
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It's just flat-out stupid.
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None of the discussion of race from those who say it's real has anything to do with skin
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color.
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Yes, it is a common shorthand because when you say black, everybody knows what you mean.
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However, that doesn't mean that because there's a gradient of colors, and at some point,
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you have a white person at the opposite point of a black person and there are shades in
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between that we can't possibly know what the difference between black and white is.
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That is a flat-out logical fallacy.
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It's just nonsense.
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And yet it's very common with someone.
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It's the fallacy of the human.
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It's deliberate deception in order to just throw a chaffin in there so no one can have
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an honest discussion about this stuff.
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There are so many aspects of what it means to have a particular race that manifests in
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terms of behavior, in terms of intelligence, in terms of disease profile.
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And doctors know all of these things, or at least they did 20 years ago.
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And this is what's really deadly about this lie, which as I said, the atheist evolutionists
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are now getting on the same pages of Christians and denying race exists, and they're killing
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people as a result.
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Because you know what?
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If you are African, of African descent, you have a much higher likelihood of having sickle
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cell anemia.
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It's a blood disorder that everyone's heard about.
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Your red blood cells have their shaped wrong.
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It turns out that the sickle cell mutation is actually advantageous in terms of fighting
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malaria.
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It's a mutation that harms your ability to correctly deal with oxygen uptake in your blood.
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I'm not sure what the effects are, but it has a positive effect.
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It has the effect of reducing the ability for malaria to reproduce in your body.
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That is only found in Africa because only Africans live near the equator where malaria
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is rampant.
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You can't have malaria swamps in places like Norway.
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There are no mosquitoes carrying malaria in the fjords.
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There are in Africa.
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These variations that have real world consequences like sickle cell anemia are specifically linked
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to race.
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It's not that being an African causes you to have sickle cell anemia, it's that the race
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of Africans tend to have that particular mutation because of where they lived for 4,500
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years.
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The same is true across numerous other groups if I had a friend who married a Jewish girl,
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and so when they had their first kid, she had to go to have specific prenatal testing
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for lots of different genetic diseases that are particular to Jews.
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If he had married someone who's white, it wouldn't have been an issue, but Jews are more
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likely to have tastesacks.
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They're 40% more likely to suffer from schizophrenia.
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All these things are genetics.
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I say, Jew, I'm not talking about someone who reads the talmud and wears the funny hat.
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I'm talking about someone who's descended from those who identify as the race of Jews.
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Now, it's not hateful to say that.
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I'm not saying curse these people because they're Jews and I want them to have bad diseases.
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They have bad diseases in their genes that are particular to them.
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These variations are racial, and today, as I said, doctors are now ignoring this stuff.
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We're saying, oh, it's all one race to human race.
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You can't possibly have any differences.
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Well, that's going to get a lot of people killed who wouldn't have died if they had received
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the appropriate treatment.
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I think as Christians, we need to be really concerned about the fact that an unexamined
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given that we brought forward to say, well, we're all descended from Adam.
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So we're all exactly the same.
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And scientists for a long time were saying, no, that's not true at all.
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We have all these meaningful differences in our bodies, in our genes that have profound
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physical consequences.
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Now, suddenly, the doctors, the so-called experts, are denying those things, and they're
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using the same rationale as the Christians.
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As we've said before, that should really concern you, because they're going to get people
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killed by lying, lies cause harm.
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They always cause harm.
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And the fact that doctors are now lying about tastes acts, and they're lying about sickle
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cell anemia, is done in the name of anti-racism, it's saying, well, we can't possibly differentiate
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or distinguish, so we must say we're all the same.
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And then you have people suffering and dying from genetic diseases that are derived specifically
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from their race, because a doctor will say, well, you're human, I can't tell.
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You have no specific risk profile, you're just a human being.
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That's a lie that does harm, and it's a moral matter.
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These things are moral matters, they're not simply scientific inquiry.
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We've danced a little bit around a point that I should probably make more explicit.
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When it comes to the percentage of your DNA that comes from certain ancestors, if you
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have very little DNA from someone who has seven or eight generations back, and that could
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very likely be the case, you are still, so long as all of those individuals married within
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your particular ethnic group, related to the other people in your ethnic group in a web
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of relations, because of course there is a great pool of shared genetic material in that
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particular group.
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And so you will be more related to any randomly chosen member of that group than a member
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of another group somewhere else in the world.
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And so for instance, if you are descended from the Dutch, living in the US, you're descended
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from the Dutch.
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If you went to the Netherlands, you would be more related to any random Dutchman you found
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than if you were to go to Africa and pick anyone in Africa.
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And this shows up in a couple of places in the same sort of vein as the medical issues.
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If you are descended from Japheth, which is say if you are white, if you are European,
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and you marry someone from Africa, which is to say someone descended from him, your children
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are effectively not related to you.
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Because their DNA is so different from yours that you are more closely related to any random
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person from your nation of origin than you are to your own child.
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And the reason this starts to cause problems is because if you need a bone marrow transplant
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or an organ transplant or any of a number of treatments, you will not be compatible.
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The odds of you being a compatible donor for your child are basically zero.
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The odds of you finding a compatible donor are also extremely low.
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So there are very real consequences of this in the real world.
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This is not something you can deny and just ignore it and hope for the best.
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Because if you ignore these things, there's a very real chance those consequences will occur
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and there's nothing you can do about it at that point.
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And so another issue for disease frequency is that you do actually see more diseases crop
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up in those who have a mixed lineage than those who do not.
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And so that is a consideration for Christians because what you have from your ancestors
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is what was given to you by God.
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And so you are supposed to pass that on to your children.
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You can, through poor decisions, steal from the next generation through your selfish decisions.
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And that is a moral consideration.
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And so these are things that Christians have to take into account.
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We do not simply get to ignore this issue because it makes us uncomfortable or because the
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world tells us that we should ignore it.
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And we have this happening today as was mentioned as well mentioned.
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We have doctors who will pretend that these problems don't exist.
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But oh, there's no predictive ability of your genetic ancestry, of your racial ancestry.
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And that's just a lie.
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But we've actually moved on from that.
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We're now on the next step down or up the Marxist ladder, whichever way you want to think of it.
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I guess down given the destination, we now have doctors and others denying the reality
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of sex.
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And the reason for that is that as said, it's just the next step on the ladder.
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It makes perfect sense in the Marxist timeline in their plan to go from denying the reality
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of human race to denying the reality of sex.
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Because if you're not really any particular race, you don't have an ethnic origin, that's
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genetic.
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Well, so is sex.
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Sex is also genetically determined again.
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Women have two X chromosomes, men have an X and a Y.
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And we see this coming up in the medical field and others where there are doctors now who
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recommend a scan for a variant cancer for a man who's claiming to be a woman.
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Or they won't do a check for prostate cancer in a man who's claiming to be a woman.
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Biology doesn't care what you claim to be.
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If you are a man, if you were born a man, you have a prostate and you can get prostate
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cancer.
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Or you will, if you live long enough.
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So that is something for which you have to screen, because that is a biological reality.
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The same plays out with regard to race.
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There are biological realities that flow from race and have to be considered, or real
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harm is caused.
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As we mentioned earlier, none of this is a denial that we're all the same species.
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One of the definitions of a species that's typically accepted taxonomically for any creature
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is the ability to interbreed if two creatures can reproduce viable offspring that themselves
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can reproduce.
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They're typically considered.
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That's one of the measures by which you determine if it's the same species.
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It is absolutely true that a European and an African can reproduce and can reproduce viable
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offspring, which themselves can reproduce.
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However, when you look at the fertility rates across all the various populations, the peak
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fertility for how related you are to someone is actually in about the fourth cousin.
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So that's not simply talking about another white person if you're European.
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And it's not simply talking about another German.
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It means if you're German, it means someone who lives in the same town as you probably,
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maybe the next town over, but someone that you potentially would see at a family reunion.
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Now a fourth cousin is a fairly distant cousin, but it's close enough that you may well
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know their name, particularly if you're blessed to live in a community which really doesn't
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exist anywhere where you would keep in contact.
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There's a theological import to the fact that fourth cousins have the highest rate of
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fecundity.
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That's not trivial.
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Children are a blessing from God.
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And that which is blessed is that which is most desirous from God.
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He doesn't bless things that he finds to be evil, not in the same way.
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He blesses things.
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He finds to be good.
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And so if fourth cousins are the peak fecundity, that what that means is that if you marry
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a first or second cousin, you're less likely to reproduce for any given event of marriage.
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If you're looking at a sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth cousin or someone who's a complete
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stranger from the other side of the world, the fertility rate falls off significantly.
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That's not random.
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And I think one of the problems that humans have and Christians have when dealing with
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questions of genetics is the question of randomness because we can't see the inputs.
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Well we can see his behavior.
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We can see a person, a person, b, we can see their behavior.
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And then we can see the outcomes of sort of a high level.
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There's so much apparent randomness in what happens with genetic admixture that is imperceptible
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to the human mind and in many cases, simply uncalculable that we tend to disregard it as
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being inconsequential.
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And I think that as Christians, the reality that we should focus on is that God knows
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what's going on at these levels.
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When God gave Adam 46 chromosomes, He knew the contents of every single gene in there.
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He knew all of it.
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There are 30,000 odd genes.
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He knew what was in each of them.
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He chose them specifically for specific purposes.
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When He brought Eve from out of Adam's body, Eve was a fully formed woman.
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What that meant was that she probably had in the order of hundreds of thousands, maybe
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million or so eggs inside her body.
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One thing that a lot of people don't know is that when a little girl is born, she has
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as many eggs as she's ever going to have in her entire life.
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Eggs are not reproduced during the life of a person.
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They're produced at a germ level in utero.
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And then they die off throughout the person's life, the girl's life.
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And they're also shed once ovulation begins.
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And so a girl is born.
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She's conceived initially as something like six or seven million of what could potentially
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become OVA.
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By the time of birth, there's about 300,000 give or take.
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By the time she begins to reach sexual maturity, she's lost about 10,000 of those every month.
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And then one or two are shed every month through ovulation.
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And then at menopause, basically the system shuts down because the eggs are basically
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exhausted.
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So there's a finite amount of them.
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They God creates when He creates life.
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And then they're depleted.
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And that's the end of the girl's reproductive life, it's not the end of her life.
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But it's the end of her life as someone who can potentially reproduce.
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Men sort of work in the opposite direction.
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We don't really begin producing sperm until puberty.
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And then we produce millions a day until long after we're likely to ever be reproducing.
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And so God has architected our bodies in different ways to achieve His ends.
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But it seems random to us.
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It's not random to God.
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And so the fact that fourth cousins are the most likely to be blessed by reproducing successfully
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is itself, I believe, a theological conclusion.
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It points to the fact that marrying not only within your own race, like we're not just
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talking about white people, Mary white people, Asians, Mary Asians.
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It's a question of, as Corey said, how closely related are you to someone?
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Because when you're looking, if you need a bone marrow match or a kidney donor or something,
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it's not simply another European that's going to do the job.
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They're not closely related enough because we said these are concentric circles.
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You need someone who has a very similar ancestry to your own to have the chance, the random
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chance from a human perspective, but it's not random, it's up to God.
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All of these things are passed down through time and God acts in time to produce each of
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us in a particular way.
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I'm about 75% English give or take and about 20% German.
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So someone else with a similar ancestry is my relative.
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If they came from Kent and they came from Saxony, we're closely related.
01:03:53.600 --> 01:04:00.120
More so than someone, even someone who might be Spanish, I would be more closely related
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to a random Englishman who was 20% Dutch than to a Spaniard by virtue of the fact that
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these things group over time and tend to cluster.
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And again, if you've listened to us thus far, at no point have we said anything hateful,
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rather than saying that human beings are created by God differently.
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And the fact that the world is now saying that that itself is hateful should be a cause
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for great concern for Christians because it flies in the face of Scripture.
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It flies in the face of the truth of what we discover when we look at these facts.
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Why is that lie so important?
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Because when Satan authored, he had something in mind and when Christians are parroting
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that lie, we need to be more wily and more concerned about what the final goal of such
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a lie is.
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And when we repeat them, when we say it's just skin color, skins, it's only skin deep,
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one race to human race, these bumper sticker tropes that make people feel better.
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And maybe it's a good way to tamp down some disagreement that the two people have in
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the moment and you say, look, you know, this is a Noah family reunion.
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You guys need to just get along.
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People should get along.
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They should get along peacefully, but it shouldn't be done in terms that cause us to have
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to lie to get there.
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That's not what God desires.
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He desires us to be peaceful, even in the face of things that are maybe not desirable,
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but we don't lie to get there.
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And when we lie about race, as Cory said, it's an attack on the creator.
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If you lie about how you were created, you were lying about he who created you.
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And he who created you is he who redeemed you.
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And we'll talk a lot more about that in the second episode, but again, these are these
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are theological questions that manifest in space and time.
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And the fact that they're all seen particularly lately through this Marxist lens, where again,
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they don't want to talk about what race is.
01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:57.280
They just want to talk about it as a weapon.
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We has Christians must get away from accepting their frame and looking at the actual ground
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truth of these matters because failure to do that is setting us up for failure because
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whatever lie you want to adopt, Satan has a step two or a step three for that lie.
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He knows what the next move is, even if we don't.
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And that's why it's so important to guard ourselves up front against not repeating some
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of these deceptions.
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To go back for a second to something we said earlier, to give people a hard numbers
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and some will not be familiar with this, when we say that human beings, one human being
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to another is going to be somewhere between 98 and 99.9% the same genetically.
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Human beings have three billion base pairs roughly in our genomes.
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So a difference of one tenth of one percent is three million base pairs.
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This is not a trivial difference.
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It sounds like a small difference until you realize the scale of the thing about which
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we are talking.
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And so when you're dealing with three billion base pairs, that one tenth of one percent
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difference is significant, particularly given the rate of mutations that occur over time.
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When we talked about race being skin deep, there was a scientific study that was done
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about a year and a half ago.
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It was done by someone, a doctor who was basically employing what is called artificial intelligence
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to X-rays to make conclusions related to healthcare outcomes, basically trying to determine
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with a whole bunch of X-rays of people's chests and various other body parts to make sure
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that as it was going through their machinery, they would be giving them the desired outputs
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and not undesirable ones.
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And this person is diametrically opposed to us in terms of politics.
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In fact, I actually had trouble finding the thread earlier today because the screenshot
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that I had of the thread was from a doctor Luke.
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And now he's, I think, Dr. Laura.
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The guy who did this is now pretending to be a woman.
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So that gives you some idea where he is on the political spectrum.
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And yet, what he found in the paper that he and some other authors did was that when
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they fed these X-rays into their artificial intelligence algorithm, it was able to determine
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the race of the patient, even when that was never the question asked.
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Now, the race that they were using wasn't anything based on genetics, it was simply self-identified.
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If the patient said on the form, I'm white, I'm black, whatever, that was what they correlated
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back to the images.
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Now, the important thing is that they never told the computer anything about any of the
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racial data.
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They just said, here are a bunch of chest X-rays, can you divide them up?
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What they found was that with a clear chest X-ray, the machinery, the computer algorithm
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with 99% accuracy was able to determine if someone was European African or Asian.
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Let me say that again, looking at a chest X-ray, the computer could tell if you were European
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African or Asian, no other information.
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Now, the authors completely freaked out because they're like, oh my God, the computer's
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racist, what do we do?
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Because they were thinking the same thing, a lot of you were thinking, the race isn't
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real, we're all one race, the human race, and if these computers are finding this race
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stuff in these images, we're in real trouble.
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Now I said artificial intelligence because that's the term that's used, but it's really
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a nonsense term.
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What these specific computer algorithms do is simply pattern matching.
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They look at a collection of data, whether it's images or sounds or whatever, and they
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measure the probability with which one thing is likely to be similar to another.
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So when I say pattern matching, when you match a pattern as a person, maybe I show you a
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red ball, and I show you a blue ball, and ask you are they the same, and you would say,
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well, they're the same shape, but they're not the same color, what do you mean by same?
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If I showed you a red ball and a red ball, and ask you are the same, the pattern, but
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yeah, they're the same, maybe the size varies, but the shape and the color are the same.
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So when a human pattern matches, it's based on particularity.
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Now we might generalize and just sort of a glance, say, those two things are similar.
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The computers have no notion of ball.
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They have no concept of ballness or colorness, or any of the other aptitudes, the other qualities
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of the thing.
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All they're doing is saying image one is 83% consistent with image two, and that's literally
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it.
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So when they fed these chest x-rays and all the other x-rays into the hopper, it didn't
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know what an x-ray was, it didn't know what a skeleton was, it didn't know what a human
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was, all it knew was the some bones and some other bones, and it was still able to divide
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them with 99% accuracy into the bucket of European, African, and Asian.
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Now if you individually have ever said race is only skin deep, race is a social construct,
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how do you process that?
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How do you deal with the fact that an x-ray can show, and it wasn't a full body x-ray,
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it wasn't a skeleton, we'll get to skeletons in a moment, but when you just show a portion
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of individuals skeleton to a machine, it's able to tell what race they were.
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Part of the reason they was so shocking to the scientist was they didn't know was possible.
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It was a completely shocking revelation because no x-ray tech has ever been able to look
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at someone's chest x-ray, and that's a black guy, that's a white guy.
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It doesn't happen, and yet the computer, because it was able to see things the humans
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can't see, just in terms of statistical comparison, it said, yeah, these three buckets exist,
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and these three buckets have names, the humans have given them, which are races, major
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racial groups.
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And the wildest part of this thing was it with perfectly clear x-rays, they were able
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to do with 99% accuracy.
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They also used degraded x-rays, where they deleted more and more information, basically
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downresing it.
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So if you have a 4K picture, and you take it down to HD, and then you take it down to
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imagine the original iPhone with a 320x240 screen, and you take it even smaller than that,
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they found that the computer was still able to tell what the race was, even with a radically
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reduced resolution, which really blew their minds, because where is it getting the information?
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And yet the consistent results were still over 90% accuracy.
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So they took it a step further.
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They took the original image, there was high definition, but they began to apply a random
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noise filter to it.
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Now what that means is that they would randomly flip pixels black or white, and so what
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you got was just a gray fuzz.
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They were able to fuzz it to the point that the images themselves just look like gray
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squares.
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So as a human being looking at it, not only you would know as an x-ray, you wouldn't
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be able to tell one image from a part, from the other apart, and yet the algorithm was
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still able to tell with 90% accuracy that one image came from an African, another came
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from a European, and the third came from an Asian.
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Now all this is to say is that race is so deeply and inextricably linked inside our bodies
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that it manifests in ways that we had no idea even existed.
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It wasn't until they fed all these images into the computer that anyone had any idea
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you could tell from a chest x-ray or a wrist x-ray what race someone was.
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There's never been any study that showed that before, which doesn't say it's false.
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It was an absolutely true discovery, but it was completely unexpected and was unexpected
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:51.080
by people who were terrified.
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The paper that they wrote was basically, oh my god, the computer's racist.
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How do we will lobotomize it?
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Because again, if there's one race, the human race, and yet the computer is saying this
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guy is white, this guy is Asian, if you deny race, you're going to be terrified of the
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fact that the computer is reaching impermissible outcomes.
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And so it was a cause for hysteria, but I look at it and say, well, on one hand it's kind
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of surprising how much it was intrinsic, but on the other hand, it's not surprising at
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all.
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Because we know, as we pointed back in the albino example, facial structure, skull structure
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is radically different.
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There are intrinsic aspects of human beings that are distinctly categorized by race that
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have nothing to do with skin color.
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They have nothing to do with anything except for, after thousands of years of variation,
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of genetic variation, we've come out differently, which again is not a value judgment.
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It's just saying that we're different in observable ways.
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And as Christians, we should be able to say, yes, we're different in observable ways.
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Without feeling that that threatens anyone's salvation, or that it threatens the gospel
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because it absolutely doesn't, what does threaten the gospel is lying about these things
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and that should be our chief concern.
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So it's interesting that a machine would be able to pick out race from something that
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for a human being looking at it, it would be effectively noise.
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There would be essentially no signal there that would be discernible by us, and that
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was just with chest X-rays.
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Human beings can actually train human beings, obviously, can tell from skeletons the race
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and the sex of someone because there are very distinct formations the way the skeleton
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is shaped, different densities, all sorts of things that you can tell.
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So you can tell the race and the sex of someone from a skeleton alone.
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And we see this all the time, this is done all the time by anthropologists, by archaeologists,
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by those who are studying ancient civilizations.
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If you dig up a skeleton and you have the training, you can definitively say that was
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a European male between these ages.
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And so obviously, yes, a computer can do this as well because a computer can do it from
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an X-ray that's downgraded to the point of being noise, but it's just further refutation
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.920
of those who would try to say that skin color is race or that race is skin color, that
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it's skin deep, it's not.
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There are fundamental differences, and you can see that in the skeletal structure, you
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can see that in the biology, you can see that in, we'll get into in later episodes, behavior
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and other things.
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Race is a fundamental part of human nature, and that is by God's design, because of course
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human nature is God's design.
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And in the case of skeletons being dug up, this is actually an important part of forensics
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for police.
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If they discover a skeleton in a field or something for a person who's been dead for some time
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and there's no longer any distinguishing physical characteristics, they will call it, call
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in these experts, who can clearly determine the race, the sex.
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And in some cases, even the age and perhaps the sort of life that the person led, one
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of the interesting things from anthropology when digging up older skeletons is that they
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can tell, for example, or any skeleton, really, they can tell what sort of childhood and
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upbringing you had, they can determine the rate of your nutrition, were you being fed
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well, were you being underfed, they can tell if you let an active physical lifestyle.
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So if someone was engaged in strenuous physical activity, particularly as they are going
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through puberty, that actually affects your growth plates.
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So your bones will look different than someone who let a more sedentary life, which in the
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case of history will tend to indicate what cast someone fell into, what class, were they
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a laborer, were they a warrior, were they, you know, someone who lived in a castle and
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maybe they did those things for fun or for training, but not because it was life and
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death.
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So all of these things are manifest in our physical bodies and they're left long after
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our skin has gone.
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And this too has been become controversial recently.
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I was reading an account earlier today from a girl who was, I believe she was teaching
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a class related to the study of bones dug up by police to identify victims.
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And the professor who was supervising the class and the students lost their minds when
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she said that you can tell the race of someone by their skeleton, they went into a frenzy.
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They were so upset at the idea that you could tell the race of a person without looking
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at their skin color.
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Now that's not the response of someone pursuing an academic truth.
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That's not the response of someone who has in their mind, I want to learn what is
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real.
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That's a religious response.
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When you say something and people weep and they nash their teeth and they tear their
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clothes and they howl, that is religious, that is a religious response to hearing blasphemy.
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And we're doing this episode because it's blasphemous, not against God, but discussing
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race in these realistic terms is absolutely blasphemous to the spirit of this modern age,
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which for a while, again, said yes, race was real when they were talking about evolution.
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But now that they're trying to collapse all of humanity back before the powtower of
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Babel into a single, seething mass of undifferentiated humanity with neither sex nor race nor
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any distinguishing characteristics apart from being a consumer, the spirit of this age
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is in opposition to telling the truth about these things now.
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And unfortunately, most Christians are behind the ape all because we have not seriously
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engaged in the question because the origins of something, we've talked many times about
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the genealogy of ideas and I've tried to focus when we discuss that on the genealogy is
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not simply from whence it came, but what was the original motivation of whoever was coming
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up with it?
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Now race has always been understood by human beings.
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It's found throughout scripture.
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We've talked about that in the two previous episodes I mentioned.
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The differentiation between the races has become greater and greater over time as we left
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Mount Anorayarat and finally filled the earth as God commanded.
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There's far more diversity genetically today than there was 500 years after Mount Erad
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was as Chorus mentioning that's simply how mutation works and that is how the migration
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of these genes back and forth among people as they reproduce works.
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That's not contrary to God's plan and you can see in Revelation 7-9 that all the nations
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are gathered around the throne and when John was looking at them, he could tell what
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race they were.
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He could tell that they were from the various nations.
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So that goes back to the gnostic element of this denial of the flesh.
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It is fundamentally gnostic for us to say, oh, we're all just spirits, we'll get a new
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body that won't be anything like this body we have now.
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That's utterly blasphemous.
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God created you personally, exactly as he intended you to be.
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Now what came out of your mother's womb is indeed injured by sin and degradation.
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When God raises us from the dead, all of those degradations, all of the genetic deformities,
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all the defects will be washed away, nothing will be present that isn't perfect.
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But the imperfections that are washed away will not include the race that we are because
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that is absolutely a part of God's perfect plan.
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It's part of the plan in Acts 1726 when he describes the nations being given the boundaries
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of their dwelling places and it's present in Revelation 7-9 before the throne of God,
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in all the nations of the world, of every color, of every appearance, of every language
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gather before the throne of God, which means that they are perfected in the languages
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and the physical bodies that they were given in this life.
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The race that you're given is the race that you will always be.
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And if you despise that, you need to be seriously concerned because if you're despising how
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God created you, the damter resurrected too, there's no annihilationism in Scripture.
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Every dead man will be raised on the last day and the sheep are then separated from the
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goats.
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So those who deny their race and deny their creator as a result of it and deny the resurrection
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of the body by saying, well, I'm not going to be raised as a white man or as a Japanese
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man or as a Ugandan, I'm just going to be raised as something new.
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You're flirting with damnation and God will sort that out.
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I'm not saying that you're not saved if you say those things, but I am saying that you
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were saying to God, I hate what you made, I want to be something different.
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That is not a confession that any of us should seek to take before the throne of God.
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When Christ died for each of us and his blood covers our sins and washes our robes white
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in his blood, that is for every man who has ever descended from Adam, but only the robes
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of those who confess Christ will receive that.
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And confessing Christ means confessing how He created us.
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We were created through Him, we were redeemed through Him.
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We will be resurrected with Him.
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And if we take a hatred of self and a hatred of creation to judgment day, that's a sin
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that we need to repent for as well.
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And denial of race and denial of these truths is a sin.
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Even though there are some who use these truths for evil ends, that does not make the
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truths themselves evil, that makes the truths themselves the truth.
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Truth can be a weapon, truth can do harm or can do good, but you do not solve the harm
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that can be done by a truth by denying that it's true.
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And as Christians, we have no choice but to engage first in truth and then to approach
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and love all that which is true.
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So is the future episodes common?
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We go into more detail on the spiritual aspects of this.
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I want everyone to keep in mind that this is not some side show.
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We can see in the world how much race matters to Satan.
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And if it matters to Satan, it must matter to Christians.
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And until we've done this episode, I'm not aware of any serious discussion among Christians
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that had any depth or clarity, they would address these issues in a way that's going to
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be blasphemous to the world, but yet consistent with Scripture.
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And I hope that there will be more Christians who will begin to study and think and engage
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in this way because I think that the time is growing short for the church.
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And I think that we should be prepared to give a defense for everything, including creation
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itself.
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So I'd encourage everyone to please look at the show notes, look at the all the different
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links we'll have there.
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This is probably more than most.
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I would like to mention one of the websites that we're going to link to is from an old
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friend from Twitter Thuletide.
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He's not a Christian, he is an old earth evolutionist.
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So many of the things that he says you will find offensive for some of the conclusions.
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The reason that we're going to link to him is that he's honest.
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There are some things that are said within the right wings, fear on Twitter that are based
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on race that he will also refute to the right when it doesn't agree with the facts.
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I don't know his background, but I can tell from reading him for many years.
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He's a very smart guy and he really knows this stuff.
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And so we're going to link to him because he has a number of one-on-one articles that
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go down some of the fallacies are involved in this subject.
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Many things you may well believe now, we've refuted a few of them, but there are plenty
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of others.
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So as you look at that again, I would encourage you to try to separate the Wii from the
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Traff.
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There will be things on the webpage that I will tell you right now, some of the conclusions
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particularly around the timelines, saying that these things took Conards of Thousands
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of Years.
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Those are false.
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That does not mean that the data itself is false.
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And so as you look through it, I hope you'll find some value as a Christian in synthesizing
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what you know from scripture from the facts that are found within your own body.
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Because those pages are about you too, they're about the stuff that's inside you.
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They're how God made you, they're how God made each of us.
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And that's something that we should know about and we should give thanks for.
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And we cannot deny.
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And so it is because of our love and our thanks for God and how he's done these things
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in our lives, they were doing these episodes because it's a challenging subject.
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And frankly, just discussing race is enough for people to try to dox and destroy you.
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As recording this right now, there's a massive campaign to dox us and to get us expelled
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from our churches for saying these things, which are not hateful, they're simply truthful.
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But the fact that that elicits so much hate, I think is itself that this is a really
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big deal for Satan and his Christians needs to be something that we at least give
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due consideration as well because souls are on the line.
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Yes, as we record, I know there are people who are attempting to harass my pastor.
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But at any rate, to address an issue that I know will come up for some people, there's
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the question of how Marxism plays into this.
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Because I know some will think, well, Marxists deny that race is real.
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And that's true.
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They do that today.
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But you have to realize, as we mentioned in previous episodes, you can go back to the
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immediately previous episode, Marxism is a mercenary ideology.
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It is ends seeking.
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It has no actual core when it comes to principles or anything like that.
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And so there is no standard to which you can hold it.
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It has a goal in mind, and it will do whatever it takes to reach that goal, of course,
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the goal is unobtainable.
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It's a utopia, which for those who know a little bit of Greek know that utopia means not
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a place.
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That's why it's a joke.
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But the early Marxist theorists, including Marx, were all very firmly in the race-realist
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camp.
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I have a number of quotes here I'm looking at from Marx, and he at the very least addresses
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the German, the Jewish, and I will say the African, because I am not going to use the
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word that he did, races.
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And so you have race realism from them in the beginning, and you have an explicit argument
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from the Marxist theorists that you have to destroy these distinctions.
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Because the goal is a creation of an undifferentiated global humanity, without borders, without differences,
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all of one class, of course, is all impossible to achieve.
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But that's the goal, and because it's what we said earlier in the episode, in this episode,
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it's babble.
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They want to remake babble.
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Their goals are wicked, and they will do whatever it takes to get there.
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Early on, they affirm the races, because they will have to affirm the reality in order
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to argue that they need to be destroyed.
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Now that they have made some progress toward the ends of destruction, they argue they don't
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exist, and so you shouldn't do anything that recognizes that you have a racial identity
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that you're a member of a nation, because they want to deny the reality of God's good
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creation and restore the wickedness of babble.
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That is the end goal.
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The end goal is rebellion against God in subversion.
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That is what all of this is, and that is why we are discussing the issue.
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We discuss these issues, because Christians have to know where the battlefield is, and
01:30:34.240 --> 01:30:39.280
what is being fought, the issues over which we are actually fighting.
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Because if you're standing on a different battlefield, where the enemy isn't there,
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it doesn't matter what you do, you've lost.
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Because the enemy is attacking the other side of the city.
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And that is why we will keep harping on issues like this.
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We will keep addressing these issues, because these are the things that are important.
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If they do not get addressed, if Christians do not realize the reality of what is happening,
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:07.920
of what the enemy is doing, then it doesn't matter how true you believe you are being,
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to scripture, to the faith, to God.
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Because you are not opposing the things that Satan is attacking, you are not defending
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where Satan is attacking you.
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And that is what we want Christians to do.
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The church has to be defended.
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That is one of the duties of a Christian man is to defend the church.
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To defend his family.
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And you cannot do that if you do not understand the enemy, if you do not know when the enemy
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is going to attack and where he is attacking.
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That is why we address these issues.
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We don't address the issue because we're obsessed with it because we find it particularly
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interesting or anything like that.
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If not for the fact that the enemy is attacking here, we probably wouldn't dedicate any time
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to this stuff.
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But because the enemy is attacking it, because Christians are caught on aware, that is why
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we are addressing these issues.
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And so we need you to listen carefully to what it is we're saying and what it is we
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are not saying.
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To read through the materials in the show notes if you need the additional context.
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And yes, if you still have questions, please do send those.
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We are reading them, we do, we know we have a backlog of them, we will address them
01:32:19.480 --> 01:32:23.680
as we have time and as they come up.
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:29.480
But it is important for Christians to understand what is going on in the world.
01:32:29.480 --> 01:32:35.360
You are not called simply to be as harmless as a dove, but also to be as wise as a serpent.
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And this is part of that.
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So pay careful attention, do your homework and ask questions.
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00:00:37 – 00:00:39: Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.
00:00:39 – 00:00:41: I am Corey J. Moller.
00:00:41 – 00:00:43: And I'm Woe.
00:00:43 – 00:00:49: Today we are going to be discussing a subject that we have mentioned numerous times in previous
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00:00:50 – 00:00:51: That is race.
00:00:51 – 00:00:56: This week's episode and next week's episode will both be specifically about the subject
00:00:56 – 00:00:57: of race.
00:00:57 – 00:01:00: Now before you delete this episode and fast forward and just say I don't want to hear
00:01:00 – 00:01:06: that crap, I'd like to give a preamble and a plea to those who are listening to please
00:01:06 – 00:01:09: bear with us before you decide that this is something that's just taxing on your mind
00:01:09 – 00:01:11: and you don't want to hear it.
00:01:11 – 00:01:12: It's understandable.
00:01:12 – 00:01:17: If that was your first response, if you heard me say race and you're like, I'm out of
00:01:17 – 00:01:18: here.
00:01:18 – 00:01:20: I don't want to hear any of this stuff.
00:01:20 – 00:01:24: There are basically three groups of people that you have ever heard discussing race in
00:01:24 – 00:01:26: your life.
00:01:26 – 00:01:29: First are the atheists.
00:01:29 – 00:01:30: They're the scientists.
00:01:30 – 00:01:37: They're the evolutionists who unfortunately have most of the data about these things, about
00:01:37 – 00:01:38: the scientific.
00:01:38 – 00:01:44: And again, as we've mentioned in the past, scientific means it's Gantia from Latin knowledge.
00:01:44 – 00:01:47: Science is not simply about hypothesizing.
00:01:47 – 00:01:49: It's not about theories.
00:01:49 – 00:01:51: Science is fundamentally about facts.
00:01:51 – 00:01:58: And while the atheist evolutionists, scientists who deal with the subject of race specifically
00:01:58 – 00:02:05: in terms of genetics often have theories that are contrary to scripture, that doesn't
00:02:05 – 00:02:08: mean that the underlying data is false.
00:02:08 – 00:02:12: And so today we're going to be discussing the underlying data and we're going to present
00:02:12 – 00:02:16: our own conclusions from that data that is consistent with scripture.
00:02:16 – 00:02:19: So that's the reason you haven't heard this before.
00:02:19 – 00:02:24: You haven't heard someone who's going to engage with the facts and then willing to look
00:02:24 – 00:02:27: at scripture and see where they fit together.
00:02:27 – 00:02:33: Because what a scientist discovers in a lab by looking at DNA is a real thing.
00:02:33 – 00:02:35: It's actually true.
00:02:35 – 00:02:42: And if they have evolutionary givens that cause them to apply false theories to reach incorrect
00:02:42 – 00:02:45: conclusions, that doesn't mean that the data is bad.
00:02:45 – 00:02:47: It means that their conclusions are bad.
00:02:47 – 00:02:51: So we're going to discuss the data in our own terms and it's not that far from what
00:02:51 – 00:02:55: they're saying, but it's probably pretty far from what you've heard before.
00:02:55 – 00:02:58: So that's group one, the evolutionists.
00:02:58 – 00:03:03: Group two that you've heard before are basically the Marxists, people who will not really let
00:03:03 – 00:03:06: you pin them down on what race actually means.
00:03:06 – 00:03:10: They'll just tell you that they'll basically use it as a weapon.
00:03:10 – 00:03:15: They're going to swing some aspect of race or racism or whatever they're talking about
00:03:15 – 00:03:22: specifically as a political cudgel within a conversation to demean one group or to elevate
00:03:22 – 00:03:27: another group or to set true to groups against each other politically.
00:03:27 – 00:03:28: And it's a huge turn off.
00:03:28 – 00:03:29: It's incredibly aggravating.
00:03:29 – 00:03:33: You've probably been on the receiving end of some of those lies.
00:03:33 – 00:03:37: And so when you hear race, you think, I'm sick of this crap.
00:03:37 – 00:03:38: I don't want to hear it anymore.
00:03:38 – 00:03:39: That's not us.
00:03:39 – 00:03:40: We're not evolutionists.
00:03:40 – 00:03:41: We're not Marxists.
00:03:41 – 00:03:44: We're not using this as a cudgel.
00:03:44 – 00:03:49: And the third group is, frankly, probably the group that you were in as a Christian who
00:03:49 – 00:03:52: I'm going to call you naive, but it's not meant to be demeaning.
00:03:52 – 00:03:53: You're insulting.
00:03:53 – 00:03:54: You've never looked at this stuff.
00:03:54 – 00:03:55: You don't care.
00:03:55 – 00:03:56: You don't think it applies to your life.
00:03:56 – 00:04:05: And so you haven't delved deeply into the fact that underlie the history of the subject.
00:04:05 – 00:04:10: The reason that that's a problem is that when a Christian ignores the facts related
00:04:10 – 00:04:14: to race, as a Christian, you're going to then simply turn to
00:04:14 – 00:04:15: the scripture.
00:04:15 – 00:04:22: And so it's very easy for Christians who ignore the facts, look at scripture to reach
00:04:22 – 00:04:27: and correct conclusions that sound scriptural, but they're nonsense.
00:04:27 – 00:04:32: And we're doing this episode specifically to try to get people over the hurdle of saying
00:04:32 – 00:04:35: things like one race, the human race.
00:04:35 – 00:04:41: As though that precludes the possibility that there are subdivisions among humans.
00:04:41 – 00:04:45: To say that that doesn't exist is to contradict scripture.
00:04:45 – 00:04:49: And so this episode is actually going to be broken into two parts.
00:04:49 – 00:04:55: Today, this first episode on race is specifically going to deal with the scientific basis.
00:04:55 – 00:04:59: It's going to be an episode that's a little bit unusual from some of the others and that
00:04:59 – 00:05:04: we don't talk much about scripture, but we're going to talk a fair amount about Genesis,
00:05:04 – 00:05:07: particularly Genesis 1 through Genesis 11.
00:05:07 – 00:05:11: So from the creation through the Tower of Babel, and then we'll extrapolate a little bit
00:05:11 – 00:05:17: from then more into recorded human history as we get records from elsewhere in archeological
00:05:17 – 00:05:18: evidence.
00:05:18 – 00:05:22: But we're not going to rely very heavily on scripture.
00:05:22 – 00:05:29: And in particular, we're not going to address any of the satirological disputes of the notions
00:05:29 – 00:05:33: of race, of the claim of race, of the fact of race.
00:05:33 – 00:05:40: So if as we're going along, you have in mind Galatians 3.28, which said that there's neither
00:05:40 – 00:05:42: Jew nor Greek, there's neither slave, nor free.
00:05:42 – 00:05:48: There is no male and female for all in one in Christ Jesus.
00:05:48 – 00:05:54: I'm going to ask you for the sake of argument to simply set that aside.
00:05:54 – 00:05:56: We're going to address it in the second episode.
00:05:56 – 00:05:58: We're going to address it in detail.
00:05:58 – 00:05:59: That could be an episode all by itself.
00:05:59 – 00:06:04: We could do multiple episodes just on Galatians 3.28.
00:06:04 – 00:06:05: We're not going to address it today.
00:06:05 – 00:06:12: So if as we go along, you find yourself shouting at your phone or whatever, there's neither
00:06:12 – 00:06:14: Jew nor Greek, we're going to get to that.
00:06:14 – 00:06:17: That's not remotely what that passage means.
00:06:17 – 00:06:20: It's not a refutation of what we're saying in this episode.
00:06:20 – 00:06:25: So that's basically just a preamble as a plea to hear the whole thing out before you
00:06:25 – 00:06:29: decide that we fall into one of the first two buckets of either the evolutionists or
00:06:29 – 00:06:34: the Marxists, which is what some people online, particularly a number of pastors have accused
00:06:34 – 00:06:40: us of, mainly to discredit us and say that we're hateful and we're not Christian at all.
00:06:40 – 00:06:43: Cory and I fall into a fourth group.
00:06:43 – 00:06:48: Men that have looked at this stuff have studied it because we see that the world cares.
00:06:48 – 00:06:50: We see that Satan cares.
00:06:50 – 00:06:56: You as a Christian may not think their race has anything to do with your life or with salvation
00:06:56 – 00:07:01: or with how God operates in the world, Satan feels differently.
00:07:01 – 00:07:04: And you can tell that even right this moment before you've heard anything else we have
00:07:04 – 00:07:09: to say in any of our arguments, you can tell the Satan cares because you can't get away
00:07:09 – 00:07:11: from this damn subject.
00:07:11 – 00:07:17: That tells you that Satan has a skin in the game when it comes to the subject of race.
00:07:17 – 00:07:22: Now the hurdle that we're hoping to get people over is the idea that talking about it
00:07:22 – 00:07:24: at all is evil.
00:07:24 – 00:07:26: We obviously don't believe that or we would be talking about it.
00:07:26 – 00:07:31: If we believe that we were saying something evil, you know, if we were Christians we would
00:07:31 – 00:07:32: shut our mouths.
00:07:32 – 00:07:33: We wouldn't say it.
00:07:33 – 00:07:37: So I simply ask for you to bear with us for this episode and the next episode.
00:07:37 – 00:07:42: And if at the end of that you find that we have been evolutionists and Marxists all along,
00:07:42 – 00:07:43: that's fine.
00:07:43 – 00:07:44: You can reach that conclusion.
00:07:44 – 00:07:46: Just hear our argument first.
00:07:46 – 00:07:52: So with that out of the way, we're going to begin with, as I mentioned, the first fundamental
00:07:52 – 00:07:56: misconception that is widely applied among Christians.
00:07:56 – 00:08:00: And that is that there is one race, the human race.
00:08:00 – 00:08:05: And so the argument that we often hear from Christians when it comes to race as stated
00:08:05 – 00:08:08: as one race, the human race.
00:08:08 – 00:08:13: And the underlying argument for that is that because we are all ultimately descended from
00:08:13 – 00:08:18: Adam, we are all of the race of Adam.
00:08:18 – 00:08:23: The problem with that statement is that it is both true and false.
00:08:23 – 00:08:29: It is true because the speak of men as the race of Adam is accurate.
00:08:29 – 00:08:35: But to then conclude from that, that all men are of the same race is to equivocate with
00:08:35 – 00:08:38: regard to the term race.
00:08:38 – 00:08:47: Race can refer to various levels in the hierarchy in the ancestry of a particular life form.
00:08:47 – 00:08:53: And so for instance, a good example would be you can speak of the race of dogs, usually
00:08:53 – 00:08:54: for dogs.
00:08:54 – 00:08:58: Yes, we call them breed instead, but it's the same thing, same concept here.
00:08:58 – 00:09:03: If you speak of the breed of golden retriever, you are speaking of something more specific
00:09:03 – 00:09:05: than just dog.
00:09:05 – 00:09:06: They're all dogs.
00:09:06 – 00:09:13: So a golden retriever, a pomeranian, a rot-viler, these are all dogs.
00:09:13 – 00:09:15: But they are different breeds of dog.
00:09:15 – 00:09:23: The same for humans, you can speak of the race of Adam, human beings as being one species,
00:09:23 – 00:09:30: because we are in fact one species by any reasonable definition of that term, all of humanity, one
00:09:30 – 00:09:33: species, the race of Adam.
00:09:33 – 00:09:41: But we have over time, according to God's good ordering of creation, become separate
00:09:41 – 00:09:44: races distinct from each other.
00:09:44 – 00:09:49: Because as we moved, we adapted to the areas where we started to live.
00:09:49 – 00:09:50: God designed it that way.
00:09:50 – 00:09:55: It's very clear, He gave us the order, be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue
00:09:55 – 00:09:56: it.
00:09:56 – 00:09:57: That was what we were supposed to do.
00:09:57 – 00:10:00: Different groups moved to different areas.
00:10:00 – 00:10:07: And so as that happened, you have the creation of the different races as they exist today.
00:10:07 – 00:10:14: Now of course, the real genesis of this is in Genesis, is right after the flood.
00:10:14 – 00:10:21: And the reason we have a real break there is because you have obviously, from Adam and
00:10:21 – 00:10:24: Eve, up into the time of the flood.
00:10:24 – 00:10:28: You have man proliferating over the face of the earth, there are various genetic differences
00:10:28 – 00:10:29: over time.
00:10:29 – 00:10:33: We don't know as much about the anti-deluvians as we do about those who've come after
00:10:33 – 00:10:40: the flood, of course, that would be us in the latter category, but you have a bottleneck.
00:10:40 – 00:10:46: And that bottleneck is Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives.
00:10:46 – 00:10:49: We don't know the genealogy of their wives.
00:10:49 – 00:10:56: Much of the genetic variation we see today probably came from the wives of Noah's sons,
00:10:56 – 00:11:01: because obviously Noah's sons very closely genetically related.
00:11:01 – 00:11:04: The wives, not necessarily so closely related.
00:11:04 – 00:11:07: And they spread out after they got off the arc.
00:11:07 – 00:11:14: The arc came to land in Mount Ararat, which our best guess is Eastern Turkey, or maybe
00:11:14 – 00:11:17: a little over the border of Turkey, right in that area.
00:11:17 – 00:11:19: And that bears out.
00:11:19 – 00:11:25: If you look at the DNA of the various human groups, if you look at how related we are into
00:11:25 – 00:11:30: whom we're related, you can see that we spread out from basically Turkey.
00:11:30 – 00:11:35: The old out of Africa hypothesis was not wildly wrong.
00:11:35 – 00:11:41: It was off by several thousand miles, because the arc came to land in roughly modern day
00:11:41 – 00:11:43: Turkey.
00:11:43 – 00:11:46: Europeans are descended from J-5th.
00:11:46 – 00:11:50: J-5th moved north and west, filled Europe.
00:11:50 – 00:11:55: Eventually some became sailors and also filled the southern end of the Mediterranean, which
00:11:55 – 00:11:58: would be North Africa.
00:11:58 – 00:12:04: The Shemites stayed in the Middle East and also moved eastward into what is today Asia,
00:12:04 – 00:12:10: and the Hamites moved south through Egypt and then into Africa.
00:12:10 – 00:12:15: Probably assumed that the Sahara was not quite as big at the time, so it was more passable.
00:12:15 – 00:12:19: And that is how you end up with the modern racial groups.
00:12:19 – 00:12:25: They spread out from Noah's Ark, descended from the three patriarchs, and so you have essentially
00:12:25 – 00:12:31: three major groupings of human beings, major divisions of human races.
00:12:31 – 00:12:36: Within that, yes, you have smaller divisions to go back again to the term of race and what
00:12:36 – 00:12:40: it means going from the smallest up to the greatest.
00:12:40 – 00:12:44: You could speak of the race of Germans.
00:12:44 – 00:12:48: Then you could speak of the Germanic race, which would include the English and the Dutch
00:12:48 – 00:12:49: and others.
00:12:49 – 00:12:54: Then you could speak of the japhithic race, which would be Europeans, descended from J-5th.
00:12:54 – 00:13:00: Then you could speak of either Noah or Adamic race, which would be all men.
00:13:00 – 00:13:05: And so it's important to note how the term is being used and not to equivocate, not to
00:13:05 – 00:13:12: conflate the different senses of this term, because that is often deliberately misleading,
00:13:12 – 00:13:19: but in many cases for Christians, it is unintentionally misleading because there is a use of a term
00:13:19 – 00:13:21: as if it were univocal when it is not.
00:13:21 – 00:13:28: I think one of the toughest things that Christians have to face when looking seriously at the
00:13:28 – 00:13:35: data about these matters is that, as I said, group one, the atheists and the evolutionists
00:13:35 – 00:13:39: who do most of the research, who control most of the publication.
00:13:39 – 00:13:43: Historically, they haven't lied about the data, although that's happening today just
00:13:43 – 00:13:45: in the last five and ten years.
00:13:45 – 00:13:50: There's more deliberate fudging of the data, specifically to accord with what Christians
00:13:50 – 00:13:54: claim as their own morality to say one race, the human race.
00:13:54 – 00:13:58: Today, the scientists are now saying the same thing, and they're altering their data to
00:13:58 – 00:14:03: achieve that desired outcome when the data doesn't support it.
00:14:03 – 00:14:09: So as you delve into this, it's a real challenge because you're forced to listen to people
00:14:09 – 00:14:14: who are going to reach incorrect conclusions based on their faulty givens.
00:14:14 – 00:14:19: And most people are not really equipped to sort the good from the bad.
00:14:19 – 00:14:25: To look at data that itself is sound is solid, like for example, genetic data that bears
00:14:25 – 00:14:33: out what Cori just said about three different racial groups that are present in genetic data.
00:14:33 – 00:14:39: You can look at someone's genes and determine, based on statistical analysis, which of those
00:14:39 – 00:14:41: major buckets they fall into.
00:14:41 – 00:14:46: And in fact, with a reasonable probability, which of the smaller buckets they fall into,
00:14:46 – 00:14:51: it's not 100% certain, but even when it's off by a bit, it's not going to be off by much.
00:14:51 – 00:14:57: You're not going to look at the DNA of a German in Mistake him for a gonon.
00:14:57 – 00:14:59: You will mistake him for a Frenchman.
00:14:59 – 00:15:02: You could mistake him for an Englishman.
00:15:02 – 00:15:04: You're probably not going to mistake him for a Bosnian.
00:15:04 – 00:15:09: And again, you're not going to mistake him as Japanese, even at the genetic level.
00:15:09 – 00:15:10: You have no idea where it came from.
00:15:10 – 00:15:15: It's just it's a blood sample that from what you extracted DNA or epithelial wear, wherever
00:15:15 – 00:15:20: you get your DNA sample, when you profile it, this stuff is present.
00:15:20 – 00:15:24: And so you don't need to be a Christian to look at the data.
00:15:24 – 00:15:31: And that's a hard part of this conversation because as I said, the evolutionary atheists
00:15:31 – 00:15:37: who are crunching the numbers will then reach evolutionary atheist conclusions.
00:15:37 – 00:15:42: And for a Christian, when you're looking at it, you're faced with sorting the true
00:15:42 – 00:15:48: data from the false conclusions and the temptation is just to say, ah, this is all crap.
00:15:48 – 00:15:54: Because what you're looking at is a scientist who will say that the universe is 14 billion
00:15:54 – 00:15:58: years old, earth is four and a half billion years old.
00:15:58 – 00:16:04: Life is a couple billion years old and you had proteins that somehow became cells and
00:16:04 – 00:16:08: then a cell became a fish and then a fish became a monkey and a monkey became a man and
00:16:08 – 00:16:10: a man became a race of men.
00:16:10 – 00:16:14: And as a Christian, you know that almost all of that is nonsense.
00:16:14 – 00:16:19: The earth is 6,000 years old and all the DNA in our bodies comes from Adam and comes
00:16:19 – 00:16:23: from Noah in the wives of Noah's sons.
00:16:23 – 00:16:26: That's a scriptural fact.
00:16:26 – 00:16:28: It's also a scientific fact.
00:16:28 – 00:16:32: What the scientists get wrong are the time frames that are involved.
00:16:32 – 00:16:36: And so when you're looking at the raw data, you're going to find a bunch of erroneous
00:16:36 – 00:16:38: conclusions.
00:16:38 – 00:16:44: And I think that for a lot of people, we're doing this episode in the hope that you can
00:16:44 – 00:16:52: at least take a basis for being able to understand these questions in a Christian fashion that
00:16:52 – 00:16:56: is not at odds with the scientific facts.
00:16:56 – 00:17:00: If at the end of this you just throw up your hands and say, I have no idea what's going
00:17:00 – 00:17:01: on.
00:17:01 – 00:17:03: I can't make heads or tails out of it.
00:17:03 – 00:17:04: Honestly that's okay.
00:17:04 – 00:17:08: Not everyone is equipped to be able to actually wrap their heads around this stuff.
00:17:08 – 00:17:13: What I would say to you is that if you personally get to the end of what we're saying and say,
00:17:13 – 00:17:19: I can't make heads or tails of it, that's fine, but you should in the future when you
00:17:19 – 00:17:23: hear discussions of race refrain from participating.
00:17:23 – 00:17:28: Because what you're saying is I don't know enough to even be able to reach conclusion.
00:17:28 – 00:17:32: What we're trying to say is that there are conclusions that can be reached that are consistent
00:17:32 – 00:17:35: with Scripture that are also consistent with the facts.
00:17:35 – 00:17:36: Because guess what?
00:17:36 – 00:17:38: That's what the truth means.
00:17:38 – 00:17:43: The truth from God, the truth that is revealed in Scripture and the truth that is revealed
00:17:43 – 00:17:46: in creation are all of one spirit.
00:17:46 – 00:17:48: It's all the same thing.
00:17:48 – 00:17:52: And the fact that there are scientists who are atheists who come along and butcher the
00:17:52 – 00:17:55: facts of creation doesn't alter creation.
00:17:55 – 00:17:58: It just means that they're telling lies about it.
00:17:58 – 00:18:02: And so as we discuss this, it's important to tease those out.
00:18:02 – 00:18:06: So as Corey said, everything became with Adam, began with Adam.
00:18:06 – 00:18:12: All of the genes in every single human being today came from within Adam's body.
00:18:12 – 00:18:14: Eve was created from Adam.
00:18:14 – 00:18:18: We have no reason to believe that there is any portion of Eve that did not come directly
00:18:18 – 00:18:19: from him.
00:18:19 – 00:18:24: In fact, I would say it is arguably a heresy to say that there is a single cell in her
00:18:24 – 00:18:27: body that was not derived from Adam.
00:18:27 – 00:18:34: Now it's important to note when as we go down this path that when we're talking about
00:18:34 – 00:18:39: inheritance and we're talking about relation, you get half of your DNA from your father and
00:18:39 – 00:18:42: half of your DNA from your mother.
00:18:42 – 00:18:48: What that implies is that half of your father's DNA is not inside you because the other half
00:18:48 – 00:18:49: came from your mother.
00:18:49 – 00:18:51: You have 46 chromosomes.
00:18:51 – 00:18:53: You get 23 from each of them.
00:18:53 – 00:18:59: As you go back generationally, you know, when you go back generations or powers of two,
00:18:59 – 00:19:04: so one generation back means that 50, 50, that's one half.
00:19:04 – 00:19:08: Two generations back is one quarter, so 25%.
00:19:08 – 00:19:13: If you go back seven generations, you're less than one percent because two to the seventh
00:19:13 – 00:19:15: is 128.
00:19:15 – 00:19:22: So you're looking at one 128th of the available genetic data from your great, great, great,
00:19:22 – 00:19:26: great grandfather in your own body.
00:19:26 – 00:19:31: What that means is that there's a 50, 50 chance that you'll have a shot of having some
00:19:31 – 00:19:33: of their DNA in you.
00:19:33 – 00:19:36: Now this is important for two reasons.
00:19:36 – 00:19:42: One, it's possible if you go back far enough that you may not have any of the specific genes
00:19:42 – 00:19:44: from one of your own ancestors.
00:19:44 – 00:19:45: This is very common.
00:19:45 – 00:19:48: It's something that shows up when genetic analysis is being done.
00:19:48 – 00:19:53: If you go back not too many generations, it's possible simply to lose the thread of
00:19:53 – 00:19:58: relation, not because you're not related to them, but just that there were no specific
00:19:58 – 00:20:01: genes coming from them.
00:20:01 – 00:20:07: On the other hand, the second vital point is that all humans are approximately something
00:20:07 – 00:20:12: like 99.2, 99.5% the same genetically.
00:20:12 – 00:20:16: This is one of the arguments that's made for one race, the human race, saying all the
00:20:16 – 00:20:22: genetic variation among various human groups is in that last half percent.
00:20:22 – 00:20:29: The reason that's misleading is that chimpanzees are about 98.8% the same as human DNA, which
00:20:29 – 00:20:35: is why the evolutionary scientists will say fish monkey man race because they see the similarity
00:20:35 – 00:20:40: between the monkey and the man and say, well, clearly they came from the same place.
00:20:40 – 00:20:41: It's Christians we know that's not the case.
00:20:41 – 00:20:48: And even more ridiculously, dogs are 94%.
00:20:48 – 00:20:56: Is it one race, the mammal race, cats are 90% and to give people an idea of how little
00:20:56 – 00:21:03: DNA varies even across species, fruit flies are 60% the same as human beings.
00:21:03 – 00:21:09: So it does not take a huge difference in order to, well, it doesn't take a huge difference
00:21:09 – 00:21:15: genetically in order to have a significant difference phenotypically, which is the expression
00:21:15 – 00:21:17: of course of the genotype.
00:21:17 – 00:21:18: Yep.
00:21:18 – 00:21:22: In fact, in some cases for humans, it can be as little as one base pair.
00:21:22 – 00:21:24: Yes.
00:21:24 – 00:21:29: What that tells us is that God likes patterns, He likes repetition.
00:21:29 – 00:21:31: We see this everywhere in the universe.
00:21:31 – 00:21:33: Galaxies all have similar structures.
00:21:33 – 00:21:37: Galaxies all have different structures too, but there are variations on a theme.
00:21:38 – 00:21:43: It's just like Beethoven or Bach, when they're writing their magnificent works, they will
00:21:43 – 00:21:49: begin with a phrase and then they'll build it and they'll evolve it and they'll grow it
00:21:49 – 00:21:54: into something magnificent and then they'll start all over again and they'll do the same
00:21:54 – 00:21:59: sort of process and reach something that begins with the same basic theme, the same phrase,
00:21:59 – 00:22:01: but it takes it in a very different direction.
00:22:01 – 00:22:05: But you'll hear those same echoes throughout the entire piece.
00:22:05 – 00:22:08: That's a reflection of what God does in creation.
00:22:08 – 00:22:13: So the fact that monkeys are 98.8%, the same as humans, doesn't mean that we're related
00:22:13 – 00:22:16: in the sense that we have a common ancestor.
00:22:16 – 00:22:20: It means that we're related by the fact that we have the same creator and God created
00:22:20 – 00:22:26: mammals in one sense and then He created lobsters and He created all these weird things
00:22:26 – 00:22:29: to have all these varieties and variations.
00:22:29 – 00:22:37: It's according to God's good creation and we can say that Chihuahua and a healer are
00:22:37 – 00:22:42: subspecies, we're terrified to say that human races are subspecies.
00:22:42 – 00:22:47: We completely preclude the idea of subspecies when talking about human beings.
00:22:47 – 00:22:56: In part because of the implications, does it mean that an African somehow has a different
00:22:56 – 00:23:00: degree of value than a European or an Asian?
00:23:00 – 00:23:02: That's a moral question.
00:23:02 – 00:23:06: And the answer before God is no, that's never going to be an argument.
00:23:06 – 00:23:09: You're going to hear from either of us.
00:23:09 – 00:23:11: Jesus died for all homo sapiens.
00:23:11 – 00:23:14: Jesus died for every descendant of Adam.
00:23:14 – 00:23:16: That's all of us.
00:23:16 – 00:23:20: Regardless of any of these differences that we're talking about in these episodes, we will
00:23:20 – 00:23:25: never make any argument that says, well, this man is different than from this man.
00:23:25 – 00:23:29: Or God cares about this man and doesn't care about this man.
00:23:29 – 00:23:34: That's absolutely the polar opposite of why we're talking about it in the first place.
00:23:34 – 00:23:41: We're talking about it because Satan is using this as a wedge to divide Christ's church
00:23:41 – 00:23:45: and to divide all of humanity in ways that are unnatural.
00:23:45 – 00:23:48: Now there are natural divisions and that is what race is.
00:23:48 – 00:23:50: Race is a natural division.
00:23:50 – 00:23:54: As you look from Babel, what was the story of Babel?
00:23:54 – 00:23:58: The people who all share the common language when they were told by God be fruitful and
00:23:58 – 00:24:03: multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, they said, no, we're not going anywhere.
00:24:03 – 00:24:06: We're going to build a tower that's going to be a monument to our own greatness.
00:24:06 – 00:24:11: It's going to keep us together in this place and we will be as God.
00:24:11 – 00:24:17: We will be magnificent and everyone will respect us for how unified we are.
00:24:17 – 00:24:19: That is the spirit of this age.
00:24:19 – 00:24:23: One race, the human race is the cry of Babel.
00:24:23 – 00:24:28: God was so infuriated at the evil of Babel that he came down to earth and he deliberately
00:24:28 – 00:24:34: confused the languages of men so that they couldn't talk to each other anymore.
00:24:34 – 00:24:37: Suddenly one man could not speak to another at all.
00:24:37 – 00:24:42: You have one guy speaking proto-traumatic and another guy speaking proto-Japanese.
00:24:42 – 00:24:43: They're aliens to each other.
00:24:43 – 00:24:46: Even though by blood they're related, God said, you know what?
00:24:46 – 00:24:47: You didn't go your separate ways.
00:24:47 – 00:24:51: I'm going to separate you because you're never going to be able to communicate again.
00:24:51 – 00:24:52: They did.
00:24:52 – 00:24:58: That was what it finally took was the division of language to separate groups which were
00:24:58 – 00:25:04: then still fairly closely related because they'd only recently come off the ark.
00:25:04 – 00:25:07: We know how many generations, but it wasn't very long.
00:25:07 – 00:25:13: Those people were scattered across the face of the earth by God because they were crying
00:25:13 – 00:25:15: one race, the human race.
00:25:15 – 00:25:16: God said, this is evil.
00:25:16 – 00:25:18: I am stopping it now.
00:25:18 – 00:25:22: That's what did he do according to Acts 1726.
00:25:22 – 00:25:27: He appointed the boundaries of men and the boundaries of the dwelling places and the numbers
00:25:27 – 00:25:28: of their days.
00:25:28 – 00:25:31: He said, you're going to go here and you're going to go there.
00:25:31 – 00:25:37: As I mentioned before, you can look at a topographical map of Europe and you can see Norway
00:25:37 – 00:25:41: Sweden and Finland from space in the topography.
00:25:41 – 00:25:47: You can see the mountain range that divide the Norsemen from the suite.
00:25:47 – 00:25:52: You can see the mountain range that divides the Portuguese from the Spanish.
00:25:52 – 00:25:58: If you just look at a political map of Portugal in Spain, why is that little sliver there
00:25:58 – 00:25:59: as a separate country?
00:25:59 – 00:26:00: Never made any sense to me.
00:26:00 – 00:26:05: I was many years old when I finally saw this topographical map and like, holy crap,
00:26:05 – 00:26:07: I see Portugal.
00:26:07 – 00:26:08: Now God did that.
00:26:08 – 00:26:11: God made those mountain ranges and He sent men to those places.
00:26:11 – 00:26:14: And what happened when they went to those places?
00:26:14 – 00:26:16: They became isolated.
00:26:16 – 00:26:20: They were isolated by language as God ordained.
00:26:20 – 00:26:27: And then through the process of interbreeding and intermarrying, the genetic content in their
00:26:27 – 00:26:29: bodies became winnowed.
00:26:29 – 00:26:34: So the men who were descended from Adam and from Noah who went to Norway got more and more
00:26:34 – 00:26:40: pale because the genes for them to lose the expression of formalinan that would cause
00:26:40 – 00:26:46: them to reject most vitamin D in their skins went away.
00:26:46 – 00:26:50: Now a Norseman who moves to the equator is not going to suddenly turn black again.
00:26:50 – 00:26:56: It was a one way trip just as you cannot take a chihuahua and turn him back into a wolf.
00:26:56 – 00:27:02: Even though I think that personally I think it's arguable that if you look at the species
00:27:02 – 00:27:08: that were on the ark, I don't think that you had a wolf in a coyote and a German shepherd,
00:27:08 – 00:27:10: even though those all look very similar.
00:27:10 – 00:27:15: They all have a same common ancestor and see that the evolutionist will tell you that
00:27:15 – 00:27:19: ancestor is tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of years in the past.
00:27:19 – 00:27:23: The Christian will say, well the earth is about 6,000 years old so that doesn't make sense.
00:27:23 – 00:27:28: And all the mammals were killed except for those that were two by two on the ark.
00:27:28 – 00:27:34: So 4,500 years ago we have this choke point where all the genes of all the creatures that
00:27:34 – 00:27:38: live on land or fly were placed on the ark.
00:27:38 – 00:27:43: Personally I believe that there was a wolf or a proto wolf on the ark and that all of
00:27:43 – 00:27:48: the speciation of the wolf, the coyote, the dog, the fox.
00:27:48 – 00:27:55: Everything downstream from the wolf classification genetically came from that pair.
00:27:55 – 00:27:59: And as they went their separate ways and they went to their separate areas where God
00:27:59 – 00:28:03: had ordained for the Arctic fox to live here and the desert fox to live here.
00:28:03 – 00:28:09: They're both foxes but they're very differently equipped genetically and human beings work
00:28:10 – 00:28:11: the same way.
00:28:11 – 00:28:14: Not that we're foxes, not that we're dogs but that we're creatures.
00:28:14 – 00:28:20: That we're God's creatures and in his infinite wisdom he gave Adam the genetic material to
00:28:20 – 00:28:22: fill the entire earth.
00:28:22 – 00:28:27: So when we talk about race it is not a denial of creation.
00:28:27 – 00:28:33: It's not a denial of the sixth day creation or of the 6,000 year history of earth.
00:28:33 – 00:28:37: And it's not to say that human beings are just another animal like all the rest but we
00:28:37 – 00:28:42: do behave in similar ways because we're all made from the same stuff.
00:28:42 – 00:28:46: And the genes that God gave us work in the same ways.
00:28:46 – 00:28:50: And one of the values of looking at things like dogs is because they have much shorter
00:28:50 – 00:28:53: gestational periods.
00:28:53 – 00:28:59: You can get most of the dog species subspecies today didn't exist 200 years ago.
00:28:59 – 00:29:03: They all have a common ancestor that's almost in living memory.
00:29:03 – 00:29:08: If you get a really old person who remembers another really old person from their family
00:29:08 – 00:29:14: they can probably that person would be able to remember the ancestor of all the dogs today
00:29:14 – 00:29:18: even though that person 200 years ago if he looked at a chihuahua and looked at the
00:29:18 – 00:29:23: same Bernard like what is this stuff I have no idea looks like nothing I've ever seen.
00:29:23 – 00:29:26: Genetically they all came from the same place.
00:29:26 – 00:29:30: We're talking about the same thing with people and it's not a denial of humanity and it's
00:29:30 – 00:29:35: not a denial of salvation it's saying that this is how God has chosen to work in the
00:29:35 – 00:29:43: last 4500 years since the flood in human lives and that's one of the big hurdles because
00:29:43 – 00:29:48: the data sounds atheist but the conclusions are entirely consistent with scripture and
00:29:48 – 00:29:52: they're also entirely consistent with observable reality.
00:29:52 – 00:29:55: And that's something that I hope people will take away from this discussion is that we're
00:29:55 – 00:30:01: not talking about theories, we're not talking about hypotheses, we're talking about measurable
00:30:01 – 00:30:05: discernible facts and ones that actually have consequences and we'll deal with those
00:30:05 – 00:30:10: consequences in future episodes but first we need to establish that this stuff is actually
00:30:10 – 00:30:15: real and it's not a threat to your faith to look at it as a real thing.
00:30:15 – 00:30:23: In fact, the real denial of the faith comes from denying these things because if you
00:30:23 – 00:30:29: deny the reality of human race or these distinctions, these differences, what God did in time
00:30:29 – 00:30:34: in the physical world, really that's a form of nosticism because you are denying the reality
00:30:34 – 00:30:41: of the flesh and so that is a violation of the first article of the creed.
00:30:41 – 00:30:46: But I think possibly this is a good time to do just a quick biology lesson to give those
00:30:46 – 00:30:52: who haven't had biology in a while or perhaps never took it, a bit of the fundamentals,
00:30:52 – 00:30:56: the mechanics here, how this actually works and plays out in reality.
00:30:56 – 00:31:00: And so there are some terms it is important to know.
00:31:00 – 00:31:05: I would hope people are familiar with a few of the terms here but one in particular that
00:31:05 – 00:31:08: is important is haplogroup.
00:31:08 – 00:31:13: And a haplogroup is basically a group of people who share a common ancestor.
00:31:13 – 00:31:19: It's defined as a certain number of alleles that tend to be inherited together, alleles
00:31:19 – 00:31:21: being a different form of a gene.
00:31:21 – 00:31:26: You can have different forms of the same gene if it's a different one that's an allele.
00:31:26 – 00:31:33: And so you can look at a map of haplogroups and you can see race on that map.
00:31:33 – 00:31:40: But two of the most important types of haplogroups and we'll put some images of these in the
00:31:40 – 00:31:47: show notes would be according to mitochondrial DNA and according to Y chromosome DNA.
00:31:47 – 00:31:53: And the reason that these two are important is because mitochondrial DNA is inherited
00:31:53 – 00:31:55: from the mother alone.
00:31:55 – 00:31:58: You do not get your mitochondrial DNA from your father.
00:31:58 – 00:32:05: You get it from your mother because the mitochondrial DNA that comes from the sperm is destroyed in
00:32:05 – 00:32:07: the ovum it is not passed on.
00:32:07 – 00:32:10: Only the mitochondrial DNA from the mother is passed on.
00:32:10 – 00:32:12: And so we have a mitochondrial eve.
00:32:12 – 00:32:20: There is a woman at some point in history from whom all mitochondrial DNA comes.
00:32:20 – 00:32:25: And of course that in the Christian case is eve is why she's called mitochondrial eve.
00:32:25 – 00:32:31: Now mitochondrial DNA can mutate over time because really any DNA can mutate over time.
00:32:31 – 00:32:34: Not all mutations are beneficial, most are harmful.
00:32:34 – 00:32:42: But some of the mutations are either neutral or they don't harm the organism in such a way
00:32:42 – 00:32:43: that it doesn't carry on.
00:32:43 – 00:32:46: And so that will carry on to successive generations.
00:32:46 – 00:32:49: That's the sort of mutation that does not terminate a line.
00:32:49 – 00:32:51: It will continue.
00:32:51 – 00:32:54: Mitochondrial DNA is very stable.
00:32:54 – 00:32:58: We aren't certain how stable yet, but there are some studies that estimate that it mutates
00:32:58 – 00:33:01: as infrequently as once every 8,000 years.
00:33:01 – 00:33:05: Now of course, being Christians again, we know the earth is about 6,000 years old.
00:33:05 – 00:33:10: This is the year of our Lord 6,027 give or take two or three years.
00:33:10 – 00:33:16: So they're probably off by a little bit on the rate of mutation, but the point is that
00:33:16 – 00:33:17: it is very stable.
00:33:17 – 00:33:20: There's very little mutation in mitochondrial DNA.
00:33:20 – 00:33:25: The other group is Y chromosome DNA.
00:33:25 – 00:33:31: Hopefully those who've taken biology remember that women have two X chromosomes and men
00:33:31 – 00:33:33: have an X and a Y chromosome.
00:33:33 – 00:33:38: And so obviously you have to inherit your Y chromosome from your father.
00:33:38 – 00:33:41: Y chromosomes do not really recombine.
00:33:41 – 00:33:47: And now what recombining is, when you get your genetic information, you get half from
00:33:47 – 00:33:53: your mother and half from your father, the chromosomes that match.
00:33:53 – 00:33:58: So if it's the same chromosome, chromosome 5 from each parent, whatever it happens to be,
00:33:58 – 00:34:01: there can be recombination where DNA can get swapped back and forth.
00:34:01 – 00:34:07: And that's some of how you get genetic variance in populations over time is recombination.
00:34:07 – 00:34:11: The Y chromosome recombines very little.
00:34:11 – 00:34:15: It only recombines on a tail where it matches with the X chromosome that you receive from
00:34:15 – 00:34:21: the mother, 95% of the Y chromosome does not recombine.
00:34:21 – 00:34:28: And so you wind up having a relative stability in inheritable Y chromosome DNA over time.
00:34:28 – 00:34:33: And so you can define human groups according to the Y chromosome because you can look back
00:34:33 – 00:34:39: to a common male ancestor from whom this population inherited that chromosome.
00:34:39 – 00:34:46: However, the Y chromosome mutates much more frequently, much more quickly than mitochondrial
00:34:46 – 00:34:48: DNA.
00:34:48 – 00:34:52: You get a mutation every generation or so in the Y chromosome.
00:34:52 – 00:34:55: Now it's a small mutation.
00:34:55 – 00:34:56: But this can be tracked over time.
00:34:56 – 00:35:02: What that means is you can tell how groups split from each other over time as human being
00:35:02 – 00:35:05: spread out over the surface of the earth.
00:35:05 – 00:35:10: And so if you look at these two maps, together you can pretty much tell exactly where the
00:35:10 – 00:35:17: races are delineated, simply on the basis of Y chromosome haplogroups and mitochondrial
00:35:17 – 00:35:19: DNA haplogroups.
00:35:19 – 00:35:22: And again, we will put the images of this in the show notes.
00:35:22 – 00:35:27: You can literally look at it and go, I can see the jaffa thites on here.
00:35:27 – 00:35:28: I can see the hamites on here.
00:35:28 – 00:35:30: I can see the shemites on here.
00:35:30 – 00:35:36: I can see Germanic Europe versus Slavic Europe versus Celtic Europe.
00:35:36 – 00:35:40: These are real things that can be seen and tested in the real world.
00:35:40 – 00:35:47: And they do not disagree with our faith whatsoever because they actually prove, again, it's
00:35:47 – 00:35:52: further proof of the truth of the scriptures because you can see the groups that spread
00:35:52 – 00:35:55: out from the ark.
00:35:55 – 00:35:59: You can actually see a confirmation of what scripture says playing out in the real world
00:35:59 – 00:36:02: as God designed it.
00:36:02 – 00:36:06: We mentioned the show notes a lot and I hope that you're checking those every week.
00:36:06 – 00:36:09: I hope you're clicking through the URL to look.
00:36:09 – 00:36:11: This is a podcast that has homework.
00:36:11 – 00:36:16: Now, you don't need to go look at the stuff in order to like follow up on future episodes.
00:36:16 – 00:36:19: So it's not, it's a homework that's created.
00:36:19 – 00:36:23: But in some cases, at least half of the episode isn't anything that we say, but it's a stuff
00:36:23 – 00:36:24: that we like.
00:36:24 – 00:36:30: So if you get value out of what we're saying, this episode and the next couple episodes
00:36:30 – 00:36:34: in particular, please click through and look at this stuff so you can see for yourselves
00:36:34 – 00:36:40: because this is an audio presentation and where this is a superficial look at this stuff.
00:36:40 – 00:36:44: We're not going super in depth because frankly, it's not important for the purpose of these
00:36:44 – 00:36:45: conversations.
00:36:45 – 00:36:53: This conversation, this episode is specifically making the case that race is a real thing.
00:36:53 – 00:36:58: So if you have gone around and said one race, the human race, which is very common, people
00:36:58 – 00:37:03: say without a guilty conscience, they think that they're being Christian.
00:37:03 – 00:37:08: That's part of why we're refuting it is that it's not a Christian say thing to say, but
00:37:08 – 00:37:09: it sounds Christian.
00:37:09 – 00:37:12: It's important as Christians to tell the truth.
00:37:12 – 00:37:19: And the fact that Satan is attacking this specific area of the truth should be an indication
00:37:19 – 00:37:23: to every Christian that there's something going on here that matters.
00:37:23 – 00:37:28: Now in the episode that we did on Christian nationalism and in the episode that we did
00:37:28 – 00:37:33: on election, both of those we talked of some length in part, probably about 20 minutes
00:37:33 – 00:37:35: in each episode.
00:37:35 – 00:37:42: We talked about some of these things about how race and ancestry are concentric circles.
00:37:42 – 00:37:46: So the notion, and this is this was present I mentioned in a previous episode in the
00:37:46 – 00:37:51: Webster 1828 definition of race or of nation.
00:37:51 – 00:37:57: It specifically addresses the fact that there were the race of Adam and the Jews are the
00:37:57 – 00:38:02: race of Abraham that we as Europeans are the race of Japheth.
00:38:02 – 00:38:06: And then as you go on down, those races get smaller.
00:38:06 – 00:38:12: And one of the common false arguments that's a cheap shot and it's dishonest, but it sounds
00:38:12 – 00:38:18: convincing superficially is that well, how can a German and a Dutchman be a separate
00:38:18 – 00:38:21: race if European and African are a separate race?
00:38:21 – 00:38:23: None of it makes any sense.
00:38:23 – 00:38:28: Like you hear people say that that well, if there's this sort of continuum, I can't make
00:38:28 – 00:38:32: sense of any of it, none of it must exist.
00:38:32 – 00:38:34: That's just facially nonsense.
00:38:34 – 00:38:39: The fact that you have a mother and a father and that your third cousins have a different
00:38:39 – 00:38:44: mother and father and yet that you have a common great-grandparent, however far back
00:38:44 – 00:38:48: it goes, doesn't mean you're not related, it just means that you're related to a different
00:38:48 – 00:38:54: degree than your immediate cousin or your brother or sister.
00:38:54 – 00:39:00: These degrees of relation are the basis of race.
00:39:00 – 00:39:03: Now there's the discussion of the subject.
00:39:03 – 00:39:07: One of the things that will come up is that there are people who say nobody even talked
00:39:07 – 00:39:12: about any of this stuff until Charles Darwin invented the origin of species and invented
00:39:12 – 00:39:17: evolution in 1859 and suddenly everyone started talking about race and never existed before
00:39:17 – 00:39:19: that.
00:39:19 – 00:39:21: That's a bald face lie.
00:39:21 – 00:39:27: It's such a laughably retarded lie that it beggars belief that it even exists and
00:39:27 – 00:39:31: yet there's some fairly intelligent people superficially who will say things like that, not
00:39:31 – 00:39:38: because it's true, because it's a conversation killing lie that no one is going to fight
00:39:38 – 00:39:39: them over.
00:39:39 – 00:39:46: You can go back to Aristotle and see him discussing ethnicity and he broke it down into culture,
00:39:46 – 00:39:50: language and genetics, which is a good way of breaking it down.
00:39:50 – 00:39:57: As Cory mentioned, the Germans and the Dutch are genetically almost indistinguishable.
00:39:57 – 00:40:00: If you look at genes, you're probably not going to be able to tell someone who's Dutch
00:40:00 – 00:40:04: from someone who's German, yet if you talk to him for 30 seconds, you can clearly tell
00:40:04 – 00:40:05: the difference.
00:40:05 – 00:40:10: And in many cases, you might be able to tell just by looking because there are differences
00:40:10 – 00:40:15: that there are a lot of things about genetics that we don't understand yet.
00:40:15 – 00:40:19: That doesn't mean it's not real, it just means we don't know what's going on.
00:40:19 – 00:40:24: The fact of ignorance of a man does not disprove the reality of a fact.
00:40:24 – 00:40:30: It simply means that what we see with our own eyes, we don't yet have a downstream
00:40:30 – 00:40:33: explanation for it.
00:40:33 – 00:40:37: It's okay not to know, but it's not okay to lie because you don't know.
00:40:37 – 00:40:41: So it is true that there is no one gene for race.
00:40:41 – 00:40:45: And we'll get into this more in a little bit, but the reason that there's no one gene
00:40:45 – 00:40:51: is that race is so inextricably linked to who you are as a human being, as a man or
00:40:51 – 00:40:56: woman that God created in time from all of those fathers and all of those mothers going
00:40:56 – 00:41:01: all the way back to the flood and back to Adam.
00:41:01 – 00:41:07: There's such an intrinsic part of you that is from that winnowing process.
00:41:07 – 00:41:09: That's the reason there's no race gene.
00:41:09 – 00:41:12: That's the reason there's no skin color gene, which is another lie that we'll get to in
00:41:12 – 00:41:13: a minute.
00:41:13 – 00:41:15: These are not superficial things.
00:41:15 – 00:41:21: These are things that are so deeply embedded in us that we don't yet understand how deep
00:41:21 – 00:41:22: they go.
00:41:22 – 00:41:24: That doesn't mean that they don't exist at all.
00:41:24 – 00:41:30: It just means that as current year science looks at genetic data, it doesn't know where
00:41:30 – 00:41:31: to find it.
00:41:31 – 00:41:36: And it doesn't know where to find it because there's so much of it that we don't yet understand.
00:41:36 – 00:41:41: So looking at these things and saying, well, we don't understand, doesn't preclude the
00:41:41 – 00:41:42: existence of the thing.
00:41:42 – 00:41:45: It just means we don't have an explanation.
00:41:45 – 00:41:47: And it's okay as a Christian to leave it at that.
00:41:47 – 00:41:51: There are lots of things we don't have explanations for that doesn't mean their false.
00:41:51 – 00:41:56: In the fact that some of these discussions are coming from atheists and from evolutionists
00:41:56 – 00:42:04: who have harmful intent in mind when they spread their lying conclusions, doesn't undermine
00:42:04 – 00:42:09: the reality of the created order that God has given for all of us to observe.
00:42:09 – 00:42:12: And that's the important part of this.
00:42:12 – 00:42:17: So to expand on, you brought up skin color, it's a good place to expand on that since
00:42:17 – 00:42:20: we just went over the genetics as well.
00:42:20 – 00:42:28: There are those who will try to argue that because you see different skin tones in different
00:42:28 – 00:42:32: parts of the world, despite them clearly being different races, which is interesting.
00:42:32 – 00:42:35: They're importing that assumption in there.
00:42:35 – 00:42:40: But for instance, there are fair skin Japanese.
00:42:40 – 00:42:41: There are fair skin Europeans.
00:42:41 – 00:42:46: There are many fair skin people in the Middle East, even to this day, despite the various
00:42:46 – 00:42:52: conquests that have taken place since the time of the New Testament.
00:42:52 – 00:42:58: But it is not skin color that is the determiner of race.
00:42:58 – 00:43:01: It is genetic descent that is the determiner of race.
00:43:01 – 00:43:07: And that's why we speak of the race of japheth or the race of shem or the race of ham.
00:43:07 – 00:43:11: It is because a race is founded by a founding stock.
00:43:11 – 00:43:18: Now the genes that express and cause skin color may be shared across people groups.
00:43:18 – 00:43:22: As mentioned, there are fair skin peoples in various parts of the world.
00:43:22 – 00:43:26: There are dark skinned people in various parts of the world.
00:43:26 – 00:43:34: There is some genetic relation between the Aborigines in Australia and sub-Saharan Africans.
00:43:34 – 00:43:38: But they are distinct people groups, despite having the same skin tone.
00:43:38 – 00:43:44: Because race is not skin tone, skin tone is part of your phenotype.
00:43:44 – 00:43:48: And again, your phenotype is the physical expression of your genotype.
00:43:48 – 00:43:50: Your genotype is your genetics.
00:43:50 – 00:43:54: Now, there's more to heritability than genetics, but we won't get into that now.
00:43:54 – 00:44:00: And quite frankly, even the sciences aren't yet settled on what exactly and how exactly
00:44:00 – 00:44:02: that works.
00:44:02 – 00:44:06: So genetics DNA is good enough for our purposes.
00:44:06 – 00:44:08: But race is not your skin color.
00:44:08 – 00:44:12: Skin color is not your race.
00:44:12 – 00:44:14: Because it is more than that.
00:44:14 – 00:44:20: You are who and what you are because of quite a lot of things that came together historically
00:44:20 – 00:44:24: to make your people unique.
00:44:24 – 00:44:29: You are a member of that group because God saw fit to make you a member of that group.
00:44:29 – 00:44:30: That was part of his plan.
00:44:30 – 00:44:37: All of these genetic differences between the various races of men existed in Adam.
00:44:37 – 00:44:39: They were part of God's plan from the beginning.
00:44:39 – 00:44:45: And so there are those who will tell you that race is a punishment from God as part of
00:44:45 – 00:44:47: the Tower of Babel.
00:44:47 – 00:44:52: And that is lying about God that is high-handed sin.
00:44:52 – 00:44:56: Christians should never let those words pass their lips.
00:44:56 – 00:45:01: The various races of men are part of God's plan because God intended for us to spread
00:45:01 – 00:45:08: over the face of the world, adapt to the area in which we live, to be fruitful and multiply.
00:45:08 – 00:45:11: And he built into Adam the ability to do that.
00:45:11 – 00:45:13: And that is what has taken place.
00:45:13 – 00:45:18: And so part of that, of course, is going to be skin tone.
00:45:18 – 00:45:22: And if you want to look at the explanation for skin tone, it's very easy.
00:45:22 – 00:45:25: Pull up a map of human skin tones.
00:45:25 – 00:45:30: You'll see that it is simply a matter of how far you are away from or how close you
00:45:30 – 00:45:32: are to the equator.
00:45:32 – 00:45:35: And the reason for that is very simple.
00:45:35 – 00:45:41: If you get farther away from the equator, you need to be able to absorb more sunlight
00:45:41 – 00:45:44: for various biological processes.
00:45:44 – 00:45:50: And so if you have more melanin in your skin, if you have darker skin, you are going
00:45:50 – 00:45:53: to have a problem producing certain vitamins and other things.
00:45:53 – 00:45:55: And you are going to have health problems because of that.
00:45:55 – 00:45:59: So you need fair skin to let the sunlight pass through.
00:45:59 – 00:46:02: If you are close to the equator, you are going to get plenty of sunlight.
00:46:02 – 00:46:08: If you are as fair skinned as a sweet or a Norwegian, and you're living on the equator,
00:46:08 – 00:46:10: you are going to get sunburned.
00:46:10 – 00:46:15: That's not advantageous unless you live there long enough and are able to tan, of course.
00:46:15 – 00:46:17: And so that's all skin tone is.
00:46:17 – 00:46:20: When we speak about race, we're not speaking about skin tone.
00:46:20 – 00:46:24: skin tone is part of the equation.
00:46:24 – 00:46:29: It is simply what God built into humanity so that we could live anywhere on the planet.
00:46:29 – 00:46:34: Instead of just having one skin tone and having to live in a narrow latitude.
00:46:34 – 00:46:39: And the reason that's important to discuss skin color first is because one of the most
00:46:39 – 00:46:44: common deceptions, and frankly one of the laziest things that is said, even among people
00:46:44 – 00:46:50: who know what's going on, is to call some people white and other people black.
00:46:50 – 00:46:57: You know what someone, it means when they say that, but it's a dangerous frame because
00:46:57 – 00:47:00: it begs the question that that's all races.
00:47:00 – 00:47:03: That if someone were lighter, they wouldn't be black anymore.
00:47:03 – 00:47:07: You can Google pictures of albinoes of various races.
00:47:07 – 00:47:10: You can have albinoes where they have identical skin tone.
00:47:10 – 00:47:12: You can clearly tell who's white.
00:47:12 – 00:47:16: You can tell who's Asian and you can tell who's African because you know what?
00:47:16 – 00:47:20: There's a lot more going on and it's not just facial features.
00:47:20 – 00:47:26: It's not just distinguishing eye shape or jaw shape or skull shape, although all those
00:47:26 – 00:47:27: things are true.
00:47:27 – 00:47:35: There is a tremendous amount going on by virtue of genetic variation in each of the distinct
00:47:35 – 00:47:43: races and we begin with the color question because it's such an on-sense because one
00:47:43 – 00:47:47: of the most common arguments against us will be, you don't like people who look different.
00:47:47 – 00:47:51: You don't like people with different skin color.
00:47:51 – 00:47:52: That's just stupid.
00:47:52 – 00:47:55: It's just flat-out stupid.
00:47:55 – 00:48:01: None of the discussion of race from those who say it's real has anything to do with skin
00:48:01 – 00:48:02: color.
00:48:02 – 00:48:07: Yes, it is a common shorthand because when you say black, everybody knows what you mean.
00:48:07 – 00:48:12: However, that doesn't mean that because there's a gradient of colors, and at some point,
00:48:12 – 00:48:16: you have a white person at the opposite point of a black person and there are shades in
00:48:16 – 00:48:21: between that we can't possibly know what the difference between black and white is.
00:48:21 – 00:48:25: That is a flat-out logical fallacy.
00:48:25 – 00:48:26: It's just nonsense.
00:48:26 – 00:48:28: And yet it's very common with someone.
00:48:28 – 00:48:32: It's the fallacy of the human.
00:48:32 – 00:48:37: It's deliberate deception in order to just throw a chaffin in there so no one can have
00:48:37 – 00:48:40: an honest discussion about this stuff.
00:48:40 – 00:48:47: There are so many aspects of what it means to have a particular race that manifests in
00:48:47 – 00:48:54: terms of behavior, in terms of intelligence, in terms of disease profile.
00:48:54 – 00:48:58: And doctors know all of these things, or at least they did 20 years ago.
00:48:58 – 00:49:03: And this is what's really deadly about this lie, which as I said, the atheist evolutionists
00:49:03 – 00:49:08: are now getting on the same pages of Christians and denying race exists, and they're killing
00:49:08 – 00:49:10: people as a result.
00:49:10 – 00:49:11: Because you know what?
00:49:11 – 00:49:18: If you are African, of African descent, you have a much higher likelihood of having sickle
00:49:18 – 00:49:19: cell anemia.
00:49:19 – 00:49:22: It's a blood disorder that everyone's heard about.
00:49:22 – 00:49:26: Your red blood cells have their shaped wrong.
00:49:26 – 00:49:34: It turns out that the sickle cell mutation is actually advantageous in terms of fighting
00:49:34 – 00:49:35: malaria.
00:49:35 – 00:49:41: It's a mutation that harms your ability to correctly deal with oxygen uptake in your blood.
00:49:41 – 00:49:45: I'm not sure what the effects are, but it has a positive effect.
00:49:45 – 00:49:50: It has the effect of reducing the ability for malaria to reproduce in your body.
00:49:50 – 00:49:55: That is only found in Africa because only Africans live near the equator where malaria
00:49:55 – 00:49:57: is rampant.
00:49:57 – 00:50:01: You can't have malaria swamps in places like Norway.
00:50:01 – 00:50:05: There are no mosquitoes carrying malaria in the fjords.
00:50:05 – 00:50:08: There are in Africa.
00:50:08 – 00:50:14: These variations that have real world consequences like sickle cell anemia are specifically linked
00:50:14 – 00:50:15: to race.
00:50:15 – 00:50:20: It's not that being an African causes you to have sickle cell anemia, it's that the race
00:50:20 – 00:50:27: of Africans tend to have that particular mutation because of where they lived for 4,500
00:50:27 – 00:50:29: years.
00:50:29 – 00:50:34: The same is true across numerous other groups if I had a friend who married a Jewish girl,
00:50:34 – 00:50:40: and so when they had their first kid, she had to go to have specific prenatal testing
00:50:40 – 00:50:45: for lots of different genetic diseases that are particular to Jews.
00:50:45 – 00:50:49: If he had married someone who's white, it wouldn't have been an issue, but Jews are more
00:50:49 – 00:50:51: likely to have tastesacks.
00:50:51 – 00:50:55: They're 40% more likely to suffer from schizophrenia.
00:50:55 – 00:50:56: All these things are genetics.
00:50:56 – 00:51:02: I say, Jew, I'm not talking about someone who reads the talmud and wears the funny hat.
00:51:02 – 00:51:07: I'm talking about someone who's descended from those who identify as the race of Jews.
00:51:07 – 00:51:10: Now, it's not hateful to say that.
00:51:10 – 00:51:15: I'm not saying curse these people because they're Jews and I want them to have bad diseases.
00:51:15 – 00:51:20: They have bad diseases in their genes that are particular to them.
00:51:20 – 00:51:26: These variations are racial, and today, as I said, doctors are now ignoring this stuff.
00:51:26 – 00:51:28: We're saying, oh, it's all one race to human race.
00:51:28 – 00:51:31: You can't possibly have any differences.
00:51:31 – 00:51:35: Well, that's going to get a lot of people killed who wouldn't have died if they had received
00:51:35 – 00:51:39: the appropriate treatment.
00:51:39 – 00:51:45: I think as Christians, we need to be really concerned about the fact that an unexamined
00:51:45 – 00:51:48: given that we brought forward to say, well, we're all descended from Adam.
00:51:48 – 00:51:50: So we're all exactly the same.
00:51:50 – 00:51:53: And scientists for a long time were saying, no, that's not true at all.
00:51:53 – 00:51:58: We have all these meaningful differences in our bodies, in our genes that have profound
00:51:58 – 00:52:00: physical consequences.
00:52:00 – 00:52:05: Now, suddenly, the doctors, the so-called experts, are denying those things, and they're
00:52:05 – 00:52:09: using the same rationale as the Christians.
00:52:09 – 00:52:13: As we've said before, that should really concern you, because they're going to get people
00:52:13 – 00:52:17: killed by lying, lies cause harm.
00:52:17 – 00:52:18: They always cause harm.
00:52:18 – 00:52:23: And the fact that doctors are now lying about tastes acts, and they're lying about sickle
00:52:23 – 00:52:30: cell anemia, is done in the name of anti-racism, it's saying, well, we can't possibly differentiate
00:52:30 – 00:52:34: or distinguish, so we must say we're all the same.
00:52:34 – 00:52:38: And then you have people suffering and dying from genetic diseases that are derived specifically
00:52:38 – 00:52:43: from their race, because a doctor will say, well, you're human, I can't tell.
00:52:43 – 00:52:48: You have no specific risk profile, you're just a human being.
00:52:48 – 00:52:51: That's a lie that does harm, and it's a moral matter.
00:52:51 – 00:52:56: These things are moral matters, they're not simply scientific inquiry.
00:52:56 – 00:53:01: We've danced a little bit around a point that I should probably make more explicit.
00:53:01 – 00:53:07: When it comes to the percentage of your DNA that comes from certain ancestors, if you
00:53:07 – 00:53:13: have very little DNA from someone who has seven or eight generations back, and that could
00:53:13 – 00:53:19: very likely be the case, you are still, so long as all of those individuals married within
00:53:19 – 00:53:24: your particular ethnic group, related to the other people in your ethnic group in a web
00:53:24 – 00:53:31: of relations, because of course there is a great pool of shared genetic material in that
00:53:31 – 00:53:33: particular group.
00:53:33 – 00:53:40: And so you will be more related to any randomly chosen member of that group than a member
00:53:40 – 00:53:43: of another group somewhere else in the world.
00:53:43 – 00:53:51: And so for instance, if you are descended from the Dutch, living in the US, you're descended
00:53:51 – 00:53:52: from the Dutch.
00:53:52 – 00:53:58: If you went to the Netherlands, you would be more related to any random Dutchman you found
00:53:58 – 00:54:03: than if you were to go to Africa and pick anyone in Africa.
00:54:03 – 00:54:10: And this shows up in a couple of places in the same sort of vein as the medical issues.
00:54:10 – 00:54:15: If you are descended from Japheth, which is say if you are white, if you are European,
00:54:15 – 00:54:20: and you marry someone from Africa, which is to say someone descended from him, your children
00:54:20 – 00:54:23: are effectively not related to you.
00:54:23 – 00:54:29: Because their DNA is so different from yours that you are more closely related to any random
00:54:29 – 00:54:35: person from your nation of origin than you are to your own child.
00:54:35 – 00:54:41: And the reason this starts to cause problems is because if you need a bone marrow transplant
00:54:41 – 00:54:46: or an organ transplant or any of a number of treatments, you will not be compatible.
00:54:46 – 00:54:51: The odds of you being a compatible donor for your child are basically zero.
00:54:51 – 00:54:55: The odds of you finding a compatible donor are also extremely low.
00:54:55 – 00:54:59: So there are very real consequences of this in the real world.
00:54:59 – 00:55:03: This is not something you can deny and just ignore it and hope for the best.
00:55:03 – 00:55:08: Because if you ignore these things, there's a very real chance those consequences will occur
00:55:08 – 00:55:13: and there's nothing you can do about it at that point.
00:55:13 – 00:55:21: And so another issue for disease frequency is that you do actually see more diseases crop
00:55:21 – 00:55:26: up in those who have a mixed lineage than those who do not.
00:55:26 – 00:55:34: And so that is a consideration for Christians because what you have from your ancestors
00:55:34 – 00:55:37: is what was given to you by God.
00:55:37 – 00:55:42: And so you are supposed to pass that on to your children.
00:55:42 – 00:55:49: You can, through poor decisions, steal from the next generation through your selfish decisions.
00:55:49 – 00:55:52: And that is a moral consideration.
00:55:52 – 00:55:54: And so these are things that Christians have to take into account.
00:55:54 – 00:55:59: We do not simply get to ignore this issue because it makes us uncomfortable or because the
00:55:59 – 00:56:02: world tells us that we should ignore it.
00:56:02 – 00:56:05: And we have this happening today as was mentioned as well mentioned.
00:56:05 – 00:56:11: We have doctors who will pretend that these problems don't exist.
00:56:11 – 00:56:15: But oh, there's no predictive ability of your genetic ancestry, of your racial ancestry.
00:56:15 – 00:56:18: And that's just a lie.
00:56:18 – 00:56:20: But we've actually moved on from that.
00:56:20 – 00:56:26: We're now on the next step down or up the Marxist ladder, whichever way you want to think of it.
00:56:26 – 00:56:31: I guess down given the destination, we now have doctors and others denying the reality
00:56:31 – 00:56:35: of sex.
00:56:35 – 00:56:39: And the reason for that is that as said, it's just the next step on the ladder.
00:56:39 – 00:56:45: It makes perfect sense in the Marxist timeline in their plan to go from denying the reality
00:56:45 – 00:56:49: of human race to denying the reality of sex.
00:56:49 – 00:56:55: Because if you're not really any particular race, you don't have an ethnic origin, that's
00:56:55 – 00:56:56: genetic.
00:56:56 – 00:56:57: Well, so is sex.
00:56:57 – 00:57:00: Sex is also genetically determined again.
00:57:00 – 00:57:05: Women have two X chromosomes, men have an X and a Y.
00:57:05 – 00:57:10: And we see this coming up in the medical field and others where there are doctors now who
00:57:10 – 00:57:17: recommend a scan for a variant cancer for a man who's claiming to be a woman.
00:57:17 – 00:57:25: Or they won't do a check for prostate cancer in a man who's claiming to be a woman.
00:57:25 – 00:57:27: Biology doesn't care what you claim to be.
00:57:27 – 00:57:32: If you are a man, if you were born a man, you have a prostate and you can get prostate
00:57:32 – 00:57:33: cancer.
00:57:33 – 00:57:36: Or you will, if you live long enough.
00:57:36 – 00:57:41: So that is something for which you have to screen, because that is a biological reality.
00:57:41 – 00:57:43: The same plays out with regard to race.
00:57:43 – 00:57:48: There are biological realities that flow from race and have to be considered, or real
00:57:48 – 00:57:50: harm is caused.
00:57:50 – 00:57:55: As we mentioned earlier, none of this is a denial that we're all the same species.
00:57:55 – 00:58:01: One of the definitions of a species that's typically accepted taxonomically for any creature
00:58:01 – 00:58:09: is the ability to interbreed if two creatures can reproduce viable offspring that themselves
00:58:09 – 00:58:10: can reproduce.
00:58:10 – 00:58:11: They're typically considered.
00:58:11 – 00:58:15: That's one of the measures by which you determine if it's the same species.
00:58:15 – 00:58:21: It is absolutely true that a European and an African can reproduce and can reproduce viable
00:58:21 – 00:58:25: offspring, which themselves can reproduce.
00:58:25 – 00:58:33: However, when you look at the fertility rates across all the various populations, the peak
00:58:33 – 00:58:40: fertility for how related you are to someone is actually in about the fourth cousin.
00:58:40 – 00:58:45: So that's not simply talking about another white person if you're European.
00:58:45 – 00:58:48: And it's not simply talking about another German.
00:58:48 – 00:58:53: It means if you're German, it means someone who lives in the same town as you probably,
00:58:53 – 00:58:59: maybe the next town over, but someone that you potentially would see at a family reunion.
00:58:59 – 00:59:03: Now a fourth cousin is a fairly distant cousin, but it's close enough that you may well
00:59:03 – 00:59:09: know their name, particularly if you're blessed to live in a community which really doesn't
00:59:09 – 00:59:12: exist anywhere where you would keep in contact.
00:59:12 – 00:59:17: There's a theological import to the fact that fourth cousins have the highest rate of
00:59:17 – 00:59:18: fecundity.
00:59:18 – 00:59:21: That's not trivial.
00:59:21 – 00:59:24: Children are a blessing from God.
00:59:24 – 00:59:29: And that which is blessed is that which is most desirous from God.
00:59:29 – 00:59:34: He doesn't bless things that he finds to be evil, not in the same way.
00:59:34 – 00:59:35: He blesses things.
00:59:35 – 00:59:36: He finds to be good.
00:59:36 – 00:59:41: And so if fourth cousins are the peak fecundity, that what that means is that if you marry
00:59:41 – 00:59:48: a first or second cousin, you're less likely to reproduce for any given event of marriage.
00:59:48 – 00:59:51: If you're looking at a sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth cousin or someone who's a complete
00:59:51 – 00:59:56: stranger from the other side of the world, the fertility rate falls off significantly.
00:59:56 – 00:59:57: That's not random.
59:57 – 01:00:04
And I think one of the problems that humans have and Christians have when dealing with
01:00:04 – 01:00:10: questions of genetics is the question of randomness because we can't see the inputs.
01:00:10 – 01:00:11: Well we can see his behavior.
01:00:11 – 01:00:15: We can see a person, a person, b, we can see their behavior.
01:00:15 – 01:00:19: And then we can see the outcomes of sort of a high level.
01:00:19 – 01:00:27: There's so much apparent randomness in what happens with genetic admixture that is imperceptible
01:00:27 – 01:00:33: to the human mind and in many cases, simply uncalculable that we tend to disregard it as
01:00:33 – 01:00:36: being inconsequential.
01:00:36 – 01:00:41: And I think that as Christians, the reality that we should focus on is that God knows
01:00:41 – 01:00:44: what's going on at these levels.
01:00:44 – 01:00:51: When God gave Adam 46 chromosomes, He knew the contents of every single gene in there.
01:00:51 – 01:00:53: He knew all of it.
01:00:53 – 01:00:54: There are 30,000 odd genes.
01:00:54 – 01:00:56: He knew what was in each of them.
01:00:56 – 01:01:00: He chose them specifically for specific purposes.
01:01:00 – 01:01:05: When He brought Eve from out of Adam's body, Eve was a fully formed woman.
01:01:05 – 01:01:09: What that meant was that she probably had in the order of hundreds of thousands, maybe
01:01:09 – 01:01:13: million or so eggs inside her body.
01:01:13 – 01:01:17: One thing that a lot of people don't know is that when a little girl is born, she has
01:01:17 – 01:01:20: as many eggs as she's ever going to have in her entire life.
01:01:20 – 01:01:23: Eggs are not reproduced during the life of a person.
01:01:23 – 01:01:28: They're produced at a germ level in utero.
01:01:28 – 01:01:32: And then they die off throughout the person's life, the girl's life.
01:01:32 – 01:01:35: And they're also shed once ovulation begins.
01:01:35 – 01:01:37: And so a girl is born.
01:01:37 – 01:01:41: She's conceived initially as something like six or seven million of what could potentially
01:01:41 – 01:01:43: become OVA.
01:01:43 – 01:01:47: By the time of birth, there's about 300,000 give or take.
01:01:47 – 01:01:56: By the time she begins to reach sexual maturity, she's lost about 10,000 of those every month.
01:01:56 – 01:01:59: And then one or two are shed every month through ovulation.
01:01:59 – 01:02:03: And then at menopause, basically the system shuts down because the eggs are basically
01:02:03 – 01:02:04: exhausted.
01:02:04 – 01:02:06: So there's a finite amount of them.
01:02:06 – 01:02:09: They God creates when He creates life.
01:02:09 – 01:02:10: And then they're depleted.
01:02:10 – 01:02:14: And that's the end of the girl's reproductive life, it's not the end of her life.
01:02:14 – 01:02:19: But it's the end of her life as someone who can potentially reproduce.
01:02:19 – 01:02:21: Men sort of work in the opposite direction.
01:02:21 – 01:02:24: We don't really begin producing sperm until puberty.
01:02:24 – 01:02:30: And then we produce millions a day until long after we're likely to ever be reproducing.
01:02:30 – 01:02:37: And so God has architected our bodies in different ways to achieve His ends.
01:02:37 – 01:02:39: But it seems random to us.
01:02:39 – 01:02:41: It's not random to God.
01:02:41 – 01:02:49: And so the fact that fourth cousins are the most likely to be blessed by reproducing successfully
01:02:49 – 01:02:53: is itself, I believe, a theological conclusion.
01:02:53 – 01:02:57: It points to the fact that marrying not only within your own race, like we're not just
01:02:57 – 01:03:03: talking about white people, Mary white people, Asians, Mary Asians.
01:03:03 – 01:03:08: It's a question of, as Corey said, how closely related are you to someone?
01:03:08 – 01:03:14: Because when you're looking, if you need a bone marrow match or a kidney donor or something,
01:03:14 – 01:03:17: it's not simply another European that's going to do the job.
01:03:17 – 01:03:22: They're not closely related enough because we said these are concentric circles.
01:03:22 – 01:03:28: You need someone who has a very similar ancestry to your own to have the chance, the random
01:03:28 – 01:03:32: chance from a human perspective, but it's not random, it's up to God.
01:03:32 – 01:03:37: All of these things are passed down through time and God acts in time to produce each of
01:03:37 – 01:03:38: us in a particular way.
01:03:38 – 01:03:44: I'm about 75% English give or take and about 20% German.
01:03:44 – 01:03:48: So someone else with a similar ancestry is my relative.
01:03:48 – 01:03:53: If they came from Kent and they came from Saxony, we're closely related.
01:03:53 – 01:04:00: More so than someone, even someone who might be Spanish, I would be more closely related
01:04:00 – 01:04:05: to a random Englishman who was 20% Dutch than to a Spaniard by virtue of the fact that
01:04:05 – 01:04:09: these things group over time and tend to cluster.
01:04:09 – 01:04:15: And again, if you've listened to us thus far, at no point have we said anything hateful,
01:04:15 – 01:04:18: rather than saying that human beings are created by God differently.
01:04:18 – 01:04:23: And the fact that the world is now saying that that itself is hateful should be a cause
01:04:23 – 01:04:28: for great concern for Christians because it flies in the face of Scripture.
01:04:28 – 01:04:33: It flies in the face of the truth of what we discover when we look at these facts.
01:04:33 – 01:04:36: Why is that lie so important?
01:04:36 – 01:04:40: Because when Satan authored, he had something in mind and when Christians are parroting
01:04:40 – 01:04:48: that lie, we need to be more wily and more concerned about what the final goal of such
01:04:48 – 01:04:50: a lie is.
01:04:50 – 01:04:55: And when we repeat them, when we say it's just skin color, skins, it's only skin deep,
01:04:55 – 01:04:59: one race to human race, these bumper sticker tropes that make people feel better.
01:04:59 – 01:05:03: And maybe it's a good way to tamp down some disagreement that the two people have in
01:05:03 – 01:05:06: the moment and you say, look, you know, this is a Noah family reunion.
01:05:06 – 01:05:09: You guys need to just get along.
01:05:09 – 01:05:10: People should get along.
01:05:10 – 01:05:14: They should get along peacefully, but it shouldn't be done in terms that cause us to have
01:05:14 – 01:05:16: to lie to get there.
01:05:16 – 01:05:17: That's not what God desires.
01:05:17 – 01:05:24: He desires us to be peaceful, even in the face of things that are maybe not desirable,
01:05:24 – 01:05:26: but we don't lie to get there.
01:05:26 – 01:05:30: And when we lie about race, as Cory said, it's an attack on the creator.
01:05:30 – 01:05:35: If you lie about how you were created, you were lying about he who created you.
01:05:35 – 01:05:38: And he who created you is he who redeemed you.
01:05:38 – 01:05:43: And we'll talk a lot more about that in the second episode, but again, these are these
01:05:43 – 01:05:47: are theological questions that manifest in space and time.
01:05:47 – 01:05:52: And the fact that they're all seen particularly lately through this Marxist lens, where again,
01:05:52 – 01:05:54: they don't want to talk about what race is.
01:05:54 – 01:05:57: They just want to talk about it as a weapon.
01:05:57 – 01:06:02: We has Christians must get away from accepting their frame and looking at the actual ground
01:06:02 – 01:06:07: truth of these matters because failure to do that is setting us up for failure because
01:06:07 – 01:06:12: whatever lie you want to adopt, Satan has a step two or a step three for that lie.
01:06:12 – 01:06:15: He knows what the next move is, even if we don't.
01:06:15 – 01:06:20: And that's why it's so important to guard ourselves up front against not repeating some
01:06:20 – 01:06:22: of these deceptions.
01:06:22 – 01:06:27: To go back for a second to something we said earlier, to give people a hard numbers
01:06:27 – 01:06:33: and some will not be familiar with this, when we say that human beings, one human being
01:06:33 – 01:06:41: to another is going to be somewhere between 98 and 99.9% the same genetically.
01:06:41 – 01:06:47: Human beings have three billion base pairs roughly in our genomes.
01:06:47 – 01:06:53: So a difference of one tenth of one percent is three million base pairs.
01:06:53 – 01:06:55: This is not a trivial difference.
01:06:55 – 01:06:59: It sounds like a small difference until you realize the scale of the thing about which
01:06:59 – 01:07:01: we are talking.
01:07:01 – 01:07:06: And so when you're dealing with three billion base pairs, that one tenth of one percent
01:07:06 – 01:07:12: difference is significant, particularly given the rate of mutations that occur over time.
01:07:12 – 01:07:19: When we talked about race being skin deep, there was a scientific study that was done
01:07:19 – 01:07:20: about a year and a half ago.
01:07:20 – 01:07:29: It was done by someone, a doctor who was basically employing what is called artificial intelligence
01:07:29 – 01:07:36: to X-rays to make conclusions related to healthcare outcomes, basically trying to determine
01:07:36 – 01:07:42: with a whole bunch of X-rays of people's chests and various other body parts to make sure
01:07:42 – 01:07:48: that as it was going through their machinery, they would be giving them the desired outputs
01:07:48 – 01:07:50: and not undesirable ones.
01:07:50 – 01:07:56: And this person is diametrically opposed to us in terms of politics.
01:07:56 – 01:08:00: In fact, I actually had trouble finding the thread earlier today because the screenshot
01:08:00 – 01:08:03: that I had of the thread was from a doctor Luke.
01:08:03 – 01:08:05: And now he's, I think, Dr. Laura.
01:08:05 – 01:08:09: The guy who did this is now pretending to be a woman.
01:08:09 – 01:08:12: So that gives you some idea where he is on the political spectrum.
01:08:12 – 01:08:18: And yet, what he found in the paper that he and some other authors did was that when
01:08:18 – 01:08:25: they fed these X-rays into their artificial intelligence algorithm, it was able to determine
01:08:25 – 01:08:29: the race of the patient, even when that was never the question asked.
01:08:29 – 01:08:34: Now, the race that they were using wasn't anything based on genetics, it was simply self-identified.
01:08:34 – 01:08:40: If the patient said on the form, I'm white, I'm black, whatever, that was what they correlated
01:08:40 – 01:08:42: back to the images.
01:08:42 – 01:08:46: Now, the important thing is that they never told the computer anything about any of the
01:08:46 – 01:08:47: racial data.
01:08:47 – 01:08:52: They just said, here are a bunch of chest X-rays, can you divide them up?
01:08:52 – 01:08:58: What they found was that with a clear chest X-ray, the machinery, the computer algorithm
01:08:58 – 01:09:04: with 99% accuracy was able to determine if someone was European African or Asian.
01:09:04 – 01:09:10: Let me say that again, looking at a chest X-ray, the computer could tell if you were European
01:09:10 – 01:09:13: African or Asian, no other information.
01:09:13 – 01:09:17: Now, the authors completely freaked out because they're like, oh my God, the computer's
01:09:17 – 01:09:19: racist, what do we do?
01:09:19 – 01:09:21: Because they were thinking the same thing, a lot of you were thinking, the race isn't
01:09:21 – 01:09:26: real, we're all one race, the human race, and if these computers are finding this race
01:09:26 – 01:09:30: stuff in these images, we're in real trouble.
01:09:30 – 01:09:33: Now I said artificial intelligence because that's the term that's used, but it's really
01:09:33 – 01:09:36: a nonsense term.
01:09:36 – 01:09:40: What these specific computer algorithms do is simply pattern matching.
01:09:40 – 01:09:46: They look at a collection of data, whether it's images or sounds or whatever, and they
01:09:46 – 01:09:54: measure the probability with which one thing is likely to be similar to another.
01:09:54 – 01:09:58: So when I say pattern matching, when you match a pattern as a person, maybe I show you a
01:09:58 – 01:10:03: red ball, and I show you a blue ball, and ask you are they the same, and you would say,
01:10:03 – 01:10:07: well, they're the same shape, but they're not the same color, what do you mean by same?
01:10:07 – 01:10:11: If I showed you a red ball and a red ball, and ask you are the same, the pattern, but
01:10:11 – 01:10:16: yeah, they're the same, maybe the size varies, but the shape and the color are the same.
01:10:16 – 01:10:20: So when a human pattern matches, it's based on particularity.
01:10:20 – 01:10:24: Now we might generalize and just sort of a glance, say, those two things are similar.
01:10:24 – 01:10:27: The computers have no notion of ball.
01:10:27 – 01:10:33: They have no concept of ballness or colorness, or any of the other aptitudes, the other qualities
01:10:33 – 01:10:34: of the thing.
01:10:34 – 01:10:40: All they're doing is saying image one is 83% consistent with image two, and that's literally
01:10:40 – 01:10:41: it.
01:10:42 – 01:10:48: So when they fed these chest x-rays and all the other x-rays into the hopper, it didn't
01:10:48 – 01:10:51: know what an x-ray was, it didn't know what a skeleton was, it didn't know what a human
01:10:51 – 01:10:57: was, all it knew was the some bones and some other bones, and it was still able to divide
01:10:57 – 01:11:04: them with 99% accuracy into the bucket of European, African, and Asian.
01:11:04 – 01:11:11: Now if you individually have ever said race is only skin deep, race is a social construct,
01:11:11 – 01:11:13: how do you process that?
01:11:13 – 01:11:18: How do you deal with the fact that an x-ray can show, and it wasn't a full body x-ray,
01:11:18 – 01:11:23: it wasn't a skeleton, we'll get to skeletons in a moment, but when you just show a portion
01:11:23 – 01:11:29: of individuals skeleton to a machine, it's able to tell what race they were.
01:11:29 – 01:11:33: Part of the reason they was so shocking to the scientist was they didn't know was possible.
01:11:33 – 01:11:39: It was a completely shocking revelation because no x-ray tech has ever been able to look
01:11:39 – 01:11:44: at someone's chest x-ray, and that's a black guy, that's a white guy.
01:11:44 – 01:11:48: It doesn't happen, and yet the computer, because it was able to see things the humans
01:11:48 – 01:11:55: can't see, just in terms of statistical comparison, it said, yeah, these three buckets exist,
01:11:55 – 01:11:59: and these three buckets have names, the humans have given them, which are races, major
01:11:59 – 01:12:01: racial groups.
01:12:01 – 01:12:06: And the wildest part of this thing was it with perfectly clear x-rays, they were able
01:12:06 – 01:12:09: to do with 99% accuracy.
01:12:09 – 01:12:14: They also used degraded x-rays, where they deleted more and more information, basically
01:12:14 – 01:12:15: downresing it.
01:12:15 – 01:12:20: So if you have a 4K picture, and you take it down to HD, and then you take it down to
01:12:20 – 01:12:26: imagine the original iPhone with a 320x240 screen, and you take it even smaller than that,
01:12:26 – 01:12:31: they found that the computer was still able to tell what the race was, even with a radically
01:12:31 – 01:12:36: reduced resolution, which really blew their minds, because where is it getting the information?
01:12:36 – 01:12:40: And yet the consistent results were still over 90% accuracy.
01:12:40 – 01:12:41: So they took it a step further.
01:12:41 – 01:12:46: They took the original image, there was high definition, but they began to apply a random
01:12:46 – 01:12:48: noise filter to it.
01:12:48 – 01:12:53: Now what that means is that they would randomly flip pixels black or white, and so what
01:12:53 – 01:12:55: you got was just a gray fuzz.
01:12:55 – 01:12:59: They were able to fuzz it to the point that the images themselves just look like gray
01:12:59 – 01:13:00: squares.
01:13:00 – 01:13:04: So as a human being looking at it, not only you would know as an x-ray, you wouldn't
01:13:04 – 01:13:10: be able to tell one image from a part, from the other apart, and yet the algorithm was
01:13:10 – 01:13:17: still able to tell with 90% accuracy that one image came from an African, another came
01:13:17 – 01:13:20: from a European, and the third came from an Asian.
01:13:20 – 01:13:26: Now all this is to say is that race is so deeply and inextricably linked inside our bodies
01:13:26 – 01:13:30: that it manifests in ways that we had no idea even existed.
01:13:30 – 01:13:34: It wasn't until they fed all these images into the computer that anyone had any idea
01:13:34 – 01:13:40: you could tell from a chest x-ray or a wrist x-ray what race someone was.
01:13:40 – 01:13:43: There's never been any study that showed that before, which doesn't say it's false.
01:13:43 – 01:13:49: It was an absolutely true discovery, but it was completely unexpected and was unexpected
01:13:49 – 01:13:51: by people who were terrified.
01:13:51 – 01:13:54: The paper that they wrote was basically, oh my god, the computer's racist.
01:13:54 – 01:13:56: How do we will lobotomize it?
01:13:56 – 01:14:01: Because again, if there's one race, the human race, and yet the computer is saying this
01:14:01 – 01:14:06: guy is white, this guy is Asian, if you deny race, you're going to be terrified of the
01:14:06 – 01:14:11: fact that the computer is reaching impermissible outcomes.
01:14:11 – 01:14:16: And so it was a cause for hysteria, but I look at it and say, well, on one hand it's kind
01:14:16 – 01:14:20: of surprising how much it was intrinsic, but on the other hand, it's not surprising at
01:14:20 – 01:14:21: all.
01:14:21 – 01:14:28: Because we know, as we pointed back in the albino example, facial structure, skull structure
01:14:28 – 01:14:30: is radically different.
01:14:31 – 01:14:37: There are intrinsic aspects of human beings that are distinctly categorized by race that
01:14:37 – 01:14:38: have nothing to do with skin color.
01:14:38 – 01:14:43: They have nothing to do with anything except for, after thousands of years of variation,
01:14:43 – 01:14:49: of genetic variation, we've come out differently, which again is not a value judgment.
01:14:49 – 01:14:52: It's just saying that we're different in observable ways.
01:14:52 – 01:14:57: And as Christians, we should be able to say, yes, we're different in observable ways.
01:14:57 – 01:15:01: Without feeling that that threatens anyone's salvation, or that it threatens the gospel
01:15:01 – 01:15:07: because it absolutely doesn't, what does threaten the gospel is lying about these things
01:15:07 – 01:15:09: and that should be our chief concern.
01:15:09 – 01:15:16: So it's interesting that a machine would be able to pick out race from something that
01:15:16 – 01:15:20: for a human being looking at it, it would be effectively noise.
01:15:20 – 01:15:24: There would be essentially no signal there that would be discernible by us, and that
01:15:24 – 01:15:28: was just with chest X-rays.
01:15:28 – 01:15:36: Human beings can actually train human beings, obviously, can tell from skeletons the race
01:15:36 – 01:15:43: and the sex of someone because there are very distinct formations the way the skeleton
01:15:43 – 01:15:48: is shaped, different densities, all sorts of things that you can tell.
01:15:48 – 01:15:54: So you can tell the race and the sex of someone from a skeleton alone.
01:15:54 – 01:15:59: And we see this all the time, this is done all the time by anthropologists, by archaeologists,
01:15:59 – 01:16:02: by those who are studying ancient civilizations.
01:16:02 – 01:16:08: If you dig up a skeleton and you have the training, you can definitively say that was
01:16:08 – 01:16:12: a European male between these ages.
01:16:12 – 01:16:17: And so obviously, yes, a computer can do this as well because a computer can do it from
01:16:17 – 01:16:22: an X-ray that's downgraded to the point of being noise, but it's just further refutation
01:16:22 – 01:16:27: of those who would try to say that skin color is race or that race is skin color, that
01:16:27 – 01:16:31: it's skin deep, it's not.
01:16:31 – 01:16:35: There are fundamental differences, and you can see that in the skeletal structure, you
01:16:35 – 01:16:40: can see that in the biology, you can see that in, we'll get into in later episodes, behavior
01:16:40 – 01:16:43: and other things.
01:16:43 – 01:16:49: Race is a fundamental part of human nature, and that is by God's design, because of course
01:16:49 – 01:16:52: human nature is God's design.
01:16:52 – 01:16:57: And in the case of skeletons being dug up, this is actually an important part of forensics
01:16:57 – 01:16:59: for police.
01:16:59 – 01:17:04: If they discover a skeleton in a field or something for a person who's been dead for some time
01:17:04 – 01:17:09: and there's no longer any distinguishing physical characteristics, they will call it, call
01:17:09 – 01:17:16: in these experts, who can clearly determine the race, the sex.
01:17:16 – 01:17:21: And in some cases, even the age and perhaps the sort of life that the person led, one
01:17:21 – 01:17:25: of the interesting things from anthropology when digging up older skeletons is that they
01:17:25 – 01:17:31: can tell, for example, or any skeleton, really, they can tell what sort of childhood and
01:17:31 – 01:17:37: upbringing you had, they can determine the rate of your nutrition, were you being fed
01:17:37 – 01:17:43: well, were you being underfed, they can tell if you let an active physical lifestyle.
01:17:43 – 01:17:50: So if someone was engaged in strenuous physical activity, particularly as they are going
01:17:50 – 01:17:53: through puberty, that actually affects your growth plates.
01:17:53 – 01:17:59: So your bones will look different than someone who let a more sedentary life, which in the
01:17:59 – 01:18:05: case of history will tend to indicate what cast someone fell into, what class, were they
01:18:05 – 01:18:10: a laborer, were they a warrior, were they, you know, someone who lived in a castle and
01:18:10 – 01:18:15: maybe they did those things for fun or for training, but not because it was life and
01:18:15 – 01:18:16: death.
01:18:16 – 01:18:21: So all of these things are manifest in our physical bodies and they're left long after
01:18:21 – 01:18:23: our skin has gone.
01:18:23 – 01:18:27: And this too has been become controversial recently.
01:18:27 – 01:18:32: I was reading an account earlier today from a girl who was, I believe she was teaching
01:18:32 – 01:18:41: a class related to the study of bones dug up by police to identify victims.
01:18:41 – 01:18:46: And the professor who was supervising the class and the students lost their minds when
01:18:46 – 01:18:53: she said that you can tell the race of someone by their skeleton, they went into a frenzy.
01:18:53 – 01:18:58: They were so upset at the idea that you could tell the race of a person without looking
01:18:58 – 01:19:00: at their skin color.
01:19:00 – 01:19:05: Now that's not the response of someone pursuing an academic truth.
01:19:05 – 01:19:10: That's not the response of someone who has in their mind, I want to learn what is
01:19:10 – 01:19:12: real.
01:19:12 – 01:19:14: That's a religious response.
01:19:14 – 01:19:19: When you say something and people weep and they nash their teeth and they tear their
01:19:19 – 01:19:26: clothes and they howl, that is religious, that is a religious response to hearing blasphemy.
01:19:26 – 01:19:31: And we're doing this episode because it's blasphemous, not against God, but discussing
01:19:31 – 01:19:39: race in these realistic terms is absolutely blasphemous to the spirit of this modern age,
01:19:39 – 01:19:44: which for a while, again, said yes, race was real when they were talking about evolution.
01:19:44 – 01:19:49: But now that they're trying to collapse all of humanity back before the powtower of
01:19:49 – 01:19:57: Babel into a single, seething mass of undifferentiated humanity with neither sex nor race nor
01:19:57 – 01:20:04: any distinguishing characteristics apart from being a consumer, the spirit of this age
01:20:04 – 01:20:08: is in opposition to telling the truth about these things now.
01:20:08 – 01:20:14: And unfortunately, most Christians are behind the ape all because we have not seriously
01:20:14 – 01:20:19: engaged in the question because the origins of something, we've talked many times about
01:20:19 – 01:20:27: the genealogy of ideas and I've tried to focus when we discuss that on the genealogy is
01:20:27 – 01:20:32: not simply from whence it came, but what was the original motivation of whoever was coming
01:20:32 – 01:20:33: up with it?
01:20:33 – 01:20:38: Now race has always been understood by human beings.
01:20:38 – 01:20:39: It's found throughout scripture.
01:20:39 – 01:20:43: We've talked about that in the two previous episodes I mentioned.
01:20:43 – 01:20:48: The differentiation between the races has become greater and greater over time as we left
01:20:48 – 01:20:52: Mount Anorayarat and finally filled the earth as God commanded.
01:20:52 – 01:20:59: There's far more diversity genetically today than there was 500 years after Mount Erad
01:20:59 – 01:21:04: was as Chorus mentioning that's simply how mutation works and that is how the migration
01:21:04 – 01:21:08: of these genes back and forth among people as they reproduce works.
01:21:08 – 01:21:14: That's not contrary to God's plan and you can see in Revelation 7-9 that all the nations
01:21:14 – 01:21:20: are gathered around the throne and when John was looking at them, he could tell what
01:21:20 – 01:21:21: race they were.
01:21:21 – 01:21:23: He could tell that they were from the various nations.
01:21:23 – 01:21:29: So that goes back to the gnostic element of this denial of the flesh.
01:21:29 – 01:21:34: It is fundamentally gnostic for us to say, oh, we're all just spirits, we'll get a new
01:21:34 – 01:21:37: body that won't be anything like this body we have now.
01:21:37 – 01:21:39: That's utterly blasphemous.
01:21:39 – 01:21:45: God created you personally, exactly as he intended you to be.
01:21:45 – 01:21:52: Now what came out of your mother's womb is indeed injured by sin and degradation.
01:21:52 – 01:21:57: When God raises us from the dead, all of those degradations, all of the genetic deformities,
01:21:57 – 01:22:02: all the defects will be washed away, nothing will be present that isn't perfect.
01:22:02 – 01:22:06: But the imperfections that are washed away will not include the race that we are because
01:22:06 – 01:22:10: that is absolutely a part of God's perfect plan.
01:22:10 – 01:22:15: It's part of the plan in Acts 1726 when he describes the nations being given the boundaries
01:22:15 – 01:22:20: of their dwelling places and it's present in Revelation 7-9 before the throne of God,
01:22:20 – 01:22:26: in all the nations of the world, of every color, of every appearance, of every language
01:22:26 – 01:22:31: gather before the throne of God, which means that they are perfected in the languages
01:22:31 – 01:22:36: and the physical bodies that they were given in this life.
01:22:36 – 01:22:40: The race that you're given is the race that you will always be.
01:22:40 – 01:22:46: And if you despise that, you need to be seriously concerned because if you're despising how
01:22:46 – 01:22:54: God created you, the damter resurrected too, there's no annihilationism in Scripture.
01:22:54 – 01:22:59: Every dead man will be raised on the last day and the sheep are then separated from the
01:22:59 – 01:23:00: goats.
01:23:00 – 01:23:07: So those who deny their race and deny their creator as a result of it and deny the resurrection
01:23:07 – 01:23:12: of the body by saying, well, I'm not going to be raised as a white man or as a Japanese
01:23:12 – 01:23:19: man or as a Ugandan, I'm just going to be raised as something new.
01:23:19 – 01:23:21: You're flirting with damnation and God will sort that out.
01:23:21 – 01:23:26: I'm not saying that you're not saved if you say those things, but I am saying that you
01:23:26 – 01:23:31: were saying to God, I hate what you made, I want to be something different.
01:23:31 – 01:23:37: That is not a confession that any of us should seek to take before the throne of God.
01:23:37 – 01:23:43: When Christ died for each of us and his blood covers our sins and washes our robes white
01:23:43 – 01:23:48: in his blood, that is for every man who has ever descended from Adam, but only the robes
01:23:48 – 01:23:52: of those who confess Christ will receive that.
01:23:52 – 01:23:56: And confessing Christ means confessing how He created us.
01:23:56 – 01:23:59: We were created through Him, we were redeemed through Him.
01:23:59 – 01:24:01: We will be resurrected with Him.
01:24:01 – 01:24:09: And if we take a hatred of self and a hatred of creation to judgment day, that's a sin
01:24:09 – 01:24:11: that we need to repent for as well.
01:24:11 – 01:24:16: And denial of race and denial of these truths is a sin.
01:24:16 – 01:24:21: Even though there are some who use these truths for evil ends, that does not make the
01:24:21 – 01:24:25: truths themselves evil, that makes the truths themselves the truth.
01:24:25 – 01:24:31: Truth can be a weapon, truth can do harm or can do good, but you do not solve the harm
01:24:31 – 01:24:35: that can be done by a truth by denying that it's true.
01:24:35 – 01:24:39: And as Christians, we have no choice but to engage first in truth and then to approach
01:24:39 – 01:24:42: and love all that which is true.
01:24:42 – 01:24:44: So is the future episodes common?
01:24:44 – 01:24:47: We go into more detail on the spiritual aspects of this.
01:24:47 – 01:24:55: I want everyone to keep in mind that this is not some side show.
01:24:55 – 01:24:59: We can see in the world how much race matters to Satan.
01:24:59 – 01:25:02: And if it matters to Satan, it must matter to Christians.
01:25:02 – 01:25:10: And until we've done this episode, I'm not aware of any serious discussion among Christians
01:25:10 – 01:25:15: that had any depth or clarity, they would address these issues in a way that's going to
01:25:15 – 01:25:19: be blasphemous to the world, but yet consistent with Scripture.
01:25:19 – 01:25:24: And I hope that there will be more Christians who will begin to study and think and engage
01:25:24 – 01:25:29: in this way because I think that the time is growing short for the church.
01:25:29 – 01:25:33: And I think that we should be prepared to give a defense for everything, including creation
01:25:33 – 01:25:34: itself.
01:25:34 – 01:25:38: So I'd encourage everyone to please look at the show notes, look at the all the different
01:25:38 – 01:25:39: links we'll have there.
01:25:39 – 01:25:41: This is probably more than most.
01:25:41 – 01:25:45: I would like to mention one of the websites that we're going to link to is from an old
01:25:45 – 01:25:48: friend from Twitter Thuletide.
01:25:48 – 01:25:51: He's not a Christian, he is an old earth evolutionist.
01:25:51 – 01:25:58: So many of the things that he says you will find offensive for some of the conclusions.
01:25:58 – 01:26:02: The reason that we're going to link to him is that he's honest.
01:26:02 – 01:26:06: There are some things that are said within the right wings, fear on Twitter that are based
01:26:06 – 01:26:12: on race that he will also refute to the right when it doesn't agree with the facts.
01:26:12 – 01:26:15: I don't know his background, but I can tell from reading him for many years.
01:26:15 – 01:26:18: He's a very smart guy and he really knows this stuff.
01:26:18 – 01:26:24: And so we're going to link to him because he has a number of one-on-one articles that
01:26:24 – 01:26:28: go down some of the fallacies are involved in this subject.
01:26:28 – 01:26:31: Many things you may well believe now, we've refuted a few of them, but there are plenty
01:26:31 – 01:26:32: of others.
01:26:32 – 01:26:36: So as you look at that again, I would encourage you to try to separate the Wii from the
01:26:36 – 01:26:38: Traff.
01:26:38 – 01:26:42: There will be things on the webpage that I will tell you right now, some of the conclusions
01:26:42 – 01:26:47: particularly around the timelines, saying that these things took Conards of Thousands
01:26:47 – 01:26:48: of Years.
01:26:48 – 01:26:49: Those are false.
01:26:49 – 01:26:52: That does not mean that the data itself is false.
01:26:52 – 01:26:57: And so as you look through it, I hope you'll find some value as a Christian in synthesizing
01:26:57 – 01:27:02: what you know from scripture from the facts that are found within your own body.
01:27:02 – 01:27:06: Because those pages are about you too, they're about the stuff that's inside you.
01:27:06 – 01:27:08: They're how God made you, they're how God made each of us.
01:27:08 – 01:27:12: And that's something that we should know about and we should give thanks for.
01:27:12 – 01:27:13: And we cannot deny.
01:27:13 – 01:27:18: And so it is because of our love and our thanks for God and how he's done these things
01:27:18 – 01:27:22: in our lives, they were doing these episodes because it's a challenging subject.
01:27:22 – 01:27:27: And frankly, just discussing race is enough for people to try to dox and destroy you.
01:27:27 – 01:27:32: As recording this right now, there's a massive campaign to dox us and to get us expelled
01:27:32 – 01:27:37: from our churches for saying these things, which are not hateful, they're simply truthful.
01:27:37 – 01:27:42: But the fact that that elicits so much hate, I think is itself that this is a really
01:27:42 – 01:27:46: big deal for Satan and his Christians needs to be something that we at least give
01:27:46 – 01:27:50: due consideration as well because souls are on the line.
01:27:50 – 01:27:56: Yes, as we record, I know there are people who are attempting to harass my pastor.
01:27:56 – 01:28:01: But at any rate, to address an issue that I know will come up for some people, there's
01:28:01 – 01:28:05: the question of how Marxism plays into this.
01:28:05 – 01:28:10: Because I know some will think, well, Marxists deny that race is real.
01:28:10 – 01:28:11: And that's true.
01:28:11 – 01:28:12: They do that today.
01:28:12 – 01:28:17: But you have to realize, as we mentioned in previous episodes, you can go back to the
01:28:17 – 01:28:21: immediately previous episode, Marxism is a mercenary ideology.
01:28:21 – 01:28:24: It is ends seeking.
01:28:24 – 01:28:31: It has no actual core when it comes to principles or anything like that.
01:28:31 – 01:28:35: And so there is no standard to which you can hold it.
01:28:35 – 01:28:40: It has a goal in mind, and it will do whatever it takes to reach that goal, of course,
01:28:40 – 01:28:41: the goal is unobtainable.
01:28:41 – 01:28:46: It's a utopia, which for those who know a little bit of Greek know that utopia means not
01:28:46 – 01:28:47: a place.
01:28:47 – 01:28:49: That's why it's a joke.
01:28:49 – 01:28:55: But the early Marxist theorists, including Marx, were all very firmly in the race-realist
01:28:55 – 01:28:58: camp.
01:28:58 – 01:29:03: I have a number of quotes here I'm looking at from Marx, and he at the very least addresses
01:29:03 – 01:29:08: the German, the Jewish, and I will say the African, because I am not going to use the
01:29:08 – 01:29:12: word that he did, races.
01:29:12 – 01:29:18: And so you have race realism from them in the beginning, and you have an explicit argument
01:29:18 – 01:29:23: from the Marxist theorists that you have to destroy these distinctions.
01:29:23 – 01:29:32: Because the goal is a creation of an undifferentiated global humanity, without borders, without differences,
01:29:32 – 01:29:37: all of one class, of course, is all impossible to achieve.
01:29:37 – 01:29:42: But that's the goal, and because it's what we said earlier in the episode, in this episode,
01:29:42 – 01:29:43: it's babble.
01:29:43 – 01:29:46: They want to remake babble.
01:29:46 – 01:29:50: Their goals are wicked, and they will do whatever it takes to get there.
01:29:50 – 01:29:54: Early on, they affirm the races, because they will have to affirm the reality in order
01:29:54 – 01:29:57: to argue that they need to be destroyed.
01:29:57 – 01:30:01: Now that they have made some progress toward the ends of destruction, they argue they don't
01:30:01 – 01:30:08: exist, and so you shouldn't do anything that recognizes that you have a racial identity
01:30:08 – 01:30:13: that you're a member of a nation, because they want to deny the reality of God's good
01:30:13 – 01:30:20: creation and restore the wickedness of babble.
01:30:20 – 01:30:21: That is the end goal.
01:30:21 – 01:30:25: The end goal is rebellion against God in subversion.
01:30:25 – 01:30:28: That is what all of this is, and that is why we are discussing the issue.
01:30:28 – 01:30:34: We discuss these issues, because Christians have to know where the battlefield is, and
01:30:34 – 01:30:39: what is being fought, the issues over which we are actually fighting.
01:30:39 – 01:30:43: Because if you're standing on a different battlefield, where the enemy isn't there,
01:30:43 – 01:30:46: it doesn't matter what you do, you've lost.
01:30:46 – 01:30:49: Because the enemy is attacking the other side of the city.
01:30:49 – 01:30:52: And that is why we will keep harping on issues like this.
01:30:52 – 01:30:57: We will keep addressing these issues, because these are the things that are important.
01:30:57 – 01:31:02: If they do not get addressed, if Christians do not realize the reality of what is happening,
01:31:02 – 01:31:07: of what the enemy is doing, then it doesn't matter how true you believe you are being,
01:31:07 – 01:31:11: to scripture, to the faith, to God.
01:31:11 – 01:31:16: Because you are not opposing the things that Satan is attacking, you are not defending
01:31:16 – 01:31:19: where Satan is attacking you.
01:31:19 – 01:31:21: And that is what we want Christians to do.
01:31:21 – 01:31:23: The church has to be defended.
01:31:23 – 01:31:26: That is one of the duties of a Christian man is to defend the church.
01:31:26 – 01:31:29: To defend his family.
01:31:29 – 01:31:33: And you cannot do that if you do not understand the enemy, if you do not know when the enemy
01:31:33 – 01:31:36: is going to attack and where he is attacking.
01:31:36 – 01:31:39: That is why we address these issues.
01:31:39 – 01:31:43: We don't address the issue because we're obsessed with it because we find it particularly
01:31:43 – 01:31:45: interesting or anything like that.
01:31:45 – 01:31:50: If not for the fact that the enemy is attacking here, we probably wouldn't dedicate any time
01:31:50 – 01:31:52: to this stuff.
01:31:52 – 01:31:57: But because the enemy is attacking it, because Christians are caught on aware, that is why
01:31:57 – 01:32:00: we are addressing these issues.
01:32:00 – 01:32:05: And so we need you to listen carefully to what it is we're saying and what it is we
01:32:05 – 01:32:07: are not saying.
01:32:07 – 01:32:12: To read through the materials in the show notes if you need the additional context.
01:32:12 – 01:32:15: And yes, if you still have questions, please do send those.
01:32:15 – 01:32:19: We are reading them, we do, we know we have a backlog of them, we will address them
01:32:19 – 01:32:23: as we have time and as they come up.
01:32:23 – 01:32:29: But it is important for Christians to understand what is going on in the world.
01:32:29 – 01:32:35: You are not called simply to be as harmless as a dove, but also to be as wise as a serpent.
01:32:35 – 01:32:37: And this is part of that.
01:32:37 – 01:32:41: So pay careful attention, do your homework and ask questions.