“A Young Man’s Life”
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Are you ready?
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Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast. I am Corey J. Mahler.
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And I'm still, whoa. On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing the plight of
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young men in principally the United States, but really, I think everywhere in the Western
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world, particularly young men who are unmarried. Some of what we say will have to do with married
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men. Principally, this will be addressed to basically like guys, you know, 12 to 15 up
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to, you know, 40, and secondarily to their fathers, the fathers of both sons and daughters
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who are facing some of the circumstances we're going to describe as a warning to fathers,
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you know, listen with children. We're not going to be, you know, graphic or inappropriate
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with anything today. I don't think, but obviously the, the subjects you would expect are going
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to come up probably at some length. So you may want to screen this before listening to
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it with younger children.
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As we mentioned last week, we were also in the middle of an arc dealing with politics.
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As we mentioned last week, we'll probably break some of those up just because of the
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time commitment and, you know, we're recording on a Tuesday yesterday was Labor Day. So this
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is one that didn't take as much prep because we know a lot of this off top of our heads.
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This is however an episode that's a continuation of seven episodes that we've done in the recent
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past. So I'm going to refer to back to them specifically because today as we're speaking,
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you know, principally to young men, there's a lot of groundwork that we've laid on kind
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of more theory and this one we're going to try to make as practical and hopefully encouraging
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as possible.
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That encouragement obviously is going to take the form, you know, as Christians that ultimately
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you have to trust in God to deliver on his promises and to deliver the good things because
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I think we should all have the sense that you can do everything right, do everything by
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the book and things may still may not pan out. And it's very difficult, particularly
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for a young man to see the state of the world and perhaps the state of his own dating life
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and think, I just can't handle this anymore. And we don't want guys who are facing those
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circumstances to listen to Job's wife's advice when she said curse God and die. That's not
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the Christian response, obviously, we're going to encourage trust and confidence and God's
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promises. But we're also here living and there's stuff for us to do. There's stuff for you
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as young men to do. The groundwork, as I said, is laid in seven recent episodes. I'm just
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going to name them to give you a pointer back to if this is one you happen to be listening
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to first, they address different aspects of some of the things that we're just going to
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assume are already part of your knowledge in this episode. The first of those is episode
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22 on women, scripture and ontology. And then the next episode 23 on feminism, that's where
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we specifically deal with the question of what is a woman? What is a girl? How are they
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different than men? Why are the two sexes fundamentally different? And that's the episode
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two part series where we don't a great deal with headship and the importance of headship. So
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that's obviously going to be implicit in this conversation, both for young men who are looking
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to become heads of your own households, and also for fathers who have sons and daughters who
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are going out into the world and facing this great unknown, horrifying unknown, man made
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horrors beyond comprehension as we look at the state of the relations of men and women today.
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Episode 26 on the fear of the Lord, that goes back to as I said, you know, we're trusting in
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in God's promises. And ultimately, if we fear God, as he commands us to, we can't be afraid of
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anything else. So that's one small element of this, but it's a really important one. And I'll
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spoil the ending of this episode, we're going to end with Jesus speech in the Sermon on the
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Mount, where he talks about the birds of the air and the beast of the field trusting and receiving
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his promises and his gifts without anything. They don't know they just God takes care of them. And
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God promises that if he takes care of, you know, birds and animals and insects, he's also going to
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take care of you because he died for you on the cross. So I hope that will be the arc of this whole
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episode as we go through these things. In episode 27, the listener feedback episode, the first one
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that we've done, we'll probably do another one here pretty soon. We talked some about celibacy
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versus chastity. That's going to be a discussion that we're going to rehash here again, because it's
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been blowing up on the internet recently again. And it's one of the most fundamental aspects of
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the struggle of a young man who's full of testosterone. He's surrounded by girls who are
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half naked, because their fathers are fools and need to be beaten. And the difference between
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chastity and celibacy is a vital one, because a lot of pastors are spreading a lot of absolute
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garbage that is binding men's consciences and fashions that are ultimately disastrous. So we'll
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get into that. Also, I want to mention just briefly an episode 27 for listener feedback. It's
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the only episode where we've ever mentioned that we have a donation link on the website. As we
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mentioned in episode nine, PaywallingGod, we never started this thing to get a dime. The only reason
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we initially created the donation page was that people kept asking for it. And so if someone wants
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to support what we're doing, we're not going to say no. Frankly, that would be insulting. But we've
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never made it a point at what we're doing. Recently, we've had a couple very sizable
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donations, and I wanted to acknowledge those men. That was tremendously generous of you. And I also
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want to acknowledge the fact that when Corey and I set out to do Stone Choir, it was with the hope
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that we would build an archive library of episodes that would tackle some of these tough
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subjects, just sit there on the internet, and hopefully some people would find it in enough
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time that we wouldn't lose hope that it was ever going to be discovered. We never really expected
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to take off. It has in terms of numbers and in terms of support. And the reason I'm mentioning the
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money, despite the fact that that's, A, it's not the point and B, I don't, if someone wants to call
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us grifters, whatever, I'm not comfortable talking about it. But I want to acknowledge that men
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have given. And I want to acknowledge the fact that it goes to a broader subject that is another
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topic in which we'll talk about in a little bit. When we act in the world, when we act in each
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other's lives, we are God's hands in other people's lives. The thing that you do for your neighbor is
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you acting on behalf of God, for God or for your neighbor. Those are the good works which he promised
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he prepared before and for us. And so when someone gives us a gift, small or large, in a sense,
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in a very real sense, I don't mean hypothetically, that's literally true. Not only is that person
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doing something, but God is doing something through them for us. If anyone happened to read my
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docs, there were some complete nonsense in there about my finances. I haven't had a paycheck in
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10 years. And I am now effectively probably unemployable by virtue of having started this podcast
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along with Corey, who is also more or less unemployable, because we're disreputable neo-nazi
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podcasters according to the people who hate God. I'm not complaining. I signed up for this and
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we've said in a lot of episodes. That's fine. We're going to do this. We're going to obey God. And I
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trust in God. But when people start sending gifts to us, I can't ignore the fact that that is God
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saying, do more of this. And to be clear, this is not about money. We get Corey and I between the
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two of us, we probably get between six and 12 messages every single week from people who discovered
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the podcast recently, they're reaching out to say, thank you for what you're doing. It's in
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specifically saying, I'm going back to church, I'm reading my Bible more, maybe I'm going to church
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for the first time, or I left my church where no one cared about God, and I found a church where
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they actually preached the whole counsel of God. We get those messages all the time as a direct
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result of the things that we have said on this podcast. If that's all that we ever got, that
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would be more than enough reason for us to continue to do it. If additionally, God also says, we're
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going to cover some of your bills through you through listeners. I want to acknowledge the fact
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that I'm grateful to God, and I'm grateful to you for doing that. And if it goes away tomorrow,
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that's fine. That's not the reason. We will put a link this time in the show notes to the donation
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page, not to solicit. But because about a month ago, I was mentioning to Corey, I happened to
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look at it again, and it only had like three categories of monthly donations, and a couple of
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were just absurdly large. And I said, that's stupid, no one should ever give that much money.
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And so he went back through and took that as a challenge to basically turn it into kind of a
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Bible Easter egg. If you've seen recently the ADL list of racist numbers between 1 and 100,
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basically Corey turned it into kind of a mini Bible study where the donation tiers, most of them
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are completely absurd, but they're Bible references. So that's more free entertainment if
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you're a listener, and you want to be entertained additionally for free, like I said in the pay
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walling episode. Everything we do is completely free because we're doing this because we think
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God compels us, and we would never charge for something that we think God wants us to do. That
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would be going completely opposite directions. So I mentioned the donation pages because it's
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kind of entertaining. And if you want to test your Bible knowledge, I think you'll have fun
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with some, just trying to figure out what those numbers have to do with what Bible verses. Corey
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has tremendous knowledge of scripture a lot more than me. And it's just fun and entertaining. So
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that'll be there. Since I mentioned, I also want to reiterate something I said in the listener
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episode, which is, please don't give us money. If ever in the future, you are going to be offended
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by something that we say, if we come after one of things that you were devoted to, and we call it
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an idol, and we say we're going to smash it, which is one of the things that we're here to do. I
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don't want to give offense. And then for someone to feel like all those guys, they were fraud,
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and they ripped me off, please don't give money if you're going to be offended if we trash you. We
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don't mean to trash you. We're trying to focus on what's true and what's false. If we think that
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something's false that you happen to like, we're going to give it the same treatment that we've
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given all the other things you like. So if in the future, you would be horribly offended, if we
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said something that you found disparaging, please don't give us any money, because I don't want
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you to feel like we ripped you off. I never would have felt that way. Next episode in the arc that
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I mentioned, 28, Sweat the Small Stuff. That's one where we talk a little bit about things that we
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can do in our churches and communities to kind of rebuild a Christian society, because we are so
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far gone. We're so many generations of now away from anything that could remotely look like a
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Christian society that we got to start somewhere. And so in that episode, we talked a little bit
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about things like job boards in your congregation. Not only should you be worshiping with those
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folks every week, but you should be trying to hire them, or you should be working for them. You
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should have commerce with your brothers in Christ, preferentially. That's something that has always
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been the case, and they should continue to be so. So that also, we'll talk about today specifically,
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that also includes finding a maid. Not necessarily go to church to find a girl at church, because you
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may not find them, especially in a lot of conservative congregations. Sometimes it's all old
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people, but you know what? Those old people have daughters and granddaughters. Maybe asking them
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is going to help. So we'll talk about that in this episode. In 29 episode on the generational divide,
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we specifically talk about the fact that young guys are today in a position where a lot of guys
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are age and older, are probably going to give you incredibly stupid advice, because things have
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changed so much even in 5, 10, 15, let alone 30 or 40 years, that when some boomer says pull yourself
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up by your brute straps, we talked about how idiotic that is on its face. It's the literal opposite of
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what the original intent of that expression was. You as a young man, if you're listening to us,
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you're in a position where you have to weigh all these things that all these old guys are telling
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you, and some of it will be true. Most of it's going to be garbage, and it's all going to sound the
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same to you, and you're not going to have any frame of reference. So that's an episode we talk
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a little bit about how sometimes respecting your elders is limited to loving them and
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according to dignity, but disregarding some of their completely retarded advice in a loving way.
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Don't pick fights, but if they're saying something idiotic, don't listen, because it's your life that
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you'll screw up if you follow the wrong path. And the same applies to us. I'm in my mid-40s,
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Corey's in his mid-30s. We're older guys to some of you. There are things that we don't know. We
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mentioned in one of the episodes, we talked to a lot of guys in their early 20s and late teens,
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and we would say stupid things if we weren't talking to guys your age, because it's stuff I
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would never imagine. I can never imagine how bad it is for you. And the last I was talking,
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you guys were telling me. So we're going to talk a little bit today about some of those things,
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but we also referenced in that episode what to do when you're getting mixed advice from people.
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And last one, talking about living with past mistakes in episode 30 against the Clockwork
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universe. We talked about some of the damage that's done by sexual promiscuity, particularly
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against girls. So those are all subjects that we're not going to get into today because they're
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dealt with previously. Today, we're going to try to give some concrete specific advice. Again,
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we're older guys. I'm divorced, Corey's single. If you think that makes us retarded and not worth
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listening to, okay, I'm not going to argue with you. We have made mistakes. If we tell you things,
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they're going to cause you to repeat our mistakes. That would be malicious and foolhardy. Guys who
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screw things up can also give you at least some narrow advice about, here's how not to make the
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same mistakes that I did. Neither Russ or Fathers. So I am really uncomfortable with the notion of
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giving any fatherly advice. So as I mentioned, the secondary audience for this episode is Fathers.
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I'm not going to give you father to father advice because I have not. I'm not a dad. I have no skin
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in the game in terms of making mistakes and screwing up kids. What I can do is tell you what
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some of these younger guys are facing, and then you as a father of a son or a daughter will have
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to figure out amongst yourselves, how do I prevent my children from going down a path that's going
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to fall into some of these traps or cause some of these problems for others? So we're going to try
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to stay in our line. That's important to me. We're not know it all despite the way we sometimes
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come across. We try to stick to what we know and what we can speak to faithfully. There'll be a
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lot of scripture in this, and it's also just giving me a lot of straight advice. But I hope that
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this episode, which I've got 15 minutes into an introduction, I hope the young guys who are
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listening will come away from this, having a little bit more confidence and having some idea of
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what they can avoid and what they should try to do, but ultimately knowing that we have to trust
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in God for all this stuff. Because you don't know if you're going to wake up tomorrow, forget
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whether you're going to find a wife. You don't know if the son's going to come up tomorrow. You
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don't know if your heart's going to beat tomorrow. You trust in God to deliver on his promises,
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and he'll take care of the rest. And so for all the advice that you'll ever get from anyone,
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that is why you have to have your confidence. And having confidence rooted in God
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makes it possible to engage boldly in the world without feeling like you have to get everything
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just right. Because if the onus is always on you to get everything just right, you know that's
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hopeless. That's a well that no one can dig himself out of. If you trust in God and know that
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obeying him will be fruitful, that's half the battle. And the rest of it is prayer and doing
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the time and putting in the work and waiting for God to deliver. And in the meantime, living your
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life as a man. So to start off the episode proper, we should probably go over some of the
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reasons that young men in particular have it so hard today, why there are so many problems
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for young men specifically. And part of this is we'll start with the dating market, as it were,
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with the marriage market. Given the current set of incentives and the way that our society is
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structured, it is structured against most men. Yes, there is that top percentage to
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kind of abuse the terms, but they're the men who are very successful in the current market.
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And that is a tiny percentage of men. And the reason for that is very simple.
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Women want to have, to some degree, security and to some degree, stability. But there is another
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aspect to their nature, we went over this somewhat in previous episodes. But if the opportunity is
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there, women are going to go after some of these higher status men. And the reason they'll do that
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under the current circumstances is because our society and particularly our government has been
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designed in order to encourage that, because the goal is to delay or to destroy family formation,
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we live under an evil government. We've covered that previously and proved that point in so far as
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we're concerned. But traditionally, it is the father and then the husband who provides that
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stable environment for a woman where she is safe and can raise a family. That is the natural order
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of things. That is how things are supposed to go. Well, today the government has stepped into a
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certain degree to act as the husband for single women. And so the necessity of forming that
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family bond, of maintaining a family bond, first with regard to the father being the most natural
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family bond, because he's your father, if you're his daughter, and then with your husband, with whom
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you will form your own family, the government has stepped into a certain degree and said, no, if you
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are living alone, that's fine. We have all of these social services, we have these various programs of
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which you can take advantage, etc., etc. This creates a perverse set of incentives and that is
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deliberate. Because on the one hand, it maintains women as part of the working class. So it is
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beneficial in terms of capitalism, in terms of the market, you have more workers, you can drive
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down wages, etc. But more importantly, and this is obviously Satan's overarching goal,
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it makes it incredibly difficult to form families. Because women, when they are younger and more
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vulnerable, and more easily misled, and that's obviously just true. Yes, men, when they're
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younger, are also more easily misled, but women are more easily misled than men. That's in scripture,
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that's just the way God made men and women. But women, when they are young and easily misled,
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they can be told by the culture, by the state, no, you should take advantage of your youth,
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and you should do these things that you really shouldn't do. But the problem is, by the time
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they realize the error they have made, well, they're now in their mid-30s, or their 40s.
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Women have a biological clock that men really do not. Yes, men have one to a certain degree. If you
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have your first child when you're 60, you're going to have a lot of problems that you would
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not have if you had had your first child when you were 30. So for men, yes, you can marry later,
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you can have children later. You shouldn't do it too late. But for women, that's not an option.
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Because women have a fertility window. There's only a set number of years,
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15, 20 years, depending on the woman, wherein you can actually have children.
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All Satan has to do is get women to squander that period, and he's won. Because that destroys
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family formation, it destroys the next generation, and as we've covered in previous episodes,
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that is primarily how Christendom propagates. It propagates from father to son, from father to
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daughter, from father to his children, because he is the head of the household,
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he is the head of his children, he's the head of his wife as well,
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and he instills in them the Christian faith. Christianity is not primarily a matter
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of going out and proselytizing and bringing in new converts. Yes, that's part of it, and at
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certain points in history that has been a more important part of it. But that was not God's
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design. God's original design was that Adam would teach his sons and daughters,
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and then his sons and daughters would teach their sons and daughters in perpetuity,
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and that is how it was in Christendom, once Christianity returned to Europe,
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for a thousand years, for more than a thousand years.
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It is only today that that has fallen away, because we're quite frankly just having fewer
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children, and these are the reasons that's happening. But now to speak directly to fathers,
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now we're not going to give, as we said, specific parenting advice, although I'm
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a little more comfortable giving some, I've done a fair amount of work in psychology.
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I know some will think that that's probably the antithesis of knowing how to deal with children,
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but it depends on what you read and which conclusions you draw. But to give some
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actual concrete advice for fathers, this is the same advice we've been giving all along,
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do not send your daughters to college. Period. That's a blanket recommendation,
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and the reason not to do that is very simple. The odds are that she is going to do extremely
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unwise things while she is away from your roof. And this is not a matter of trusting your daughter
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or not trusting your daughter. This is a matter of being a father, realizing that God has given
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you a position of headship. It is your duty to oversee what she does. You cannot do that
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when she's away at college. And so what is she when she's away at college? She's headless.
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Headless things do not make good decisions. That is simply the nature of reality.
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And so a verse should come to mind. Leviticus, do not profane your daughter by making her a
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prostitute, lest the land fall into prostitution and the land become full of depravity.
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When you send your daughter away to college, and I do mean emphasis on away because it is
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particularly a problem when you send her away to college, a residential college. There's a
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difference if she takes a few classes at a community college, comes home at night, lives under your
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roof. But if you send her away to a residential college, you are effectively telling her go be
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a prostitute. Now she may not. You may win the odds. But don't play those odds. God did not call
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you to roll the dice when it comes to your children. You are called to be a father and a head. You are
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called to raise them correctly. And this is part of the reason that young men are having such a
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hard time finding marriageable women. Because once a woman has gone to college and been promiscuous,
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in many cases she is no longer fit to be a wife. Because as we went over in previous episodes,
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there are very real consequences to that behavior. And becoming a Christian again,
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if you apostatized while you were in college and you come back to Christ, becoming a Christian again
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does not remove those temporal consequences. It removes the eternal consequences. So you don't
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necessarily go to hell because you were a whore in undergrad. But there are very real consequences.
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You won't be able to pair bond as well, if at all. You will have children that will have genetic
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issues that they would not otherwise have had, etc. etc. There are many problems attendant that.
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And so we recognize these are the problems that young men are facing. Because they're
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facing a marriage market in which there are many women who are simply not marriageable anymore.
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And so one of the recommendations that we would make for the young men out there,
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don't look for women at college. That's not going to be a good place to find them.
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Look for a woman who has a good enough relationship with her father
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that she didn't go to college. That her father knew to recommend to her that that was not a wise
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decision, really ever, but particularly under present circumstances. There are many places
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where you can find women who are marriage material. They still exist. You may be to speak
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directly to the young men. You may be discouraged because of what you've seen of the world. And
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to some degree that's rational. The world has a lot of problems right now.
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And women, you need to understand the nature of women. Women are going to reflect the society
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more directly than men are. Because that is how God made women. Women start to become like and
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to reflect their head. And a woman who is not living under her father's roof or her husband's
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roof is going to reflect her head. And her head is going to be the state. She is going to reflect
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the current state of society. And that is what we see today.
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And I'm sure that there are a lot of guys listening right now, particularly fathers who are thinking,
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well, I know about a good Christian college where that's not going to happen. BS,
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it's a matter of degrees. And this is part of the reason why I said at the beginning,
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your knowledge of college is utterly worthless. It's completely worthless. You think you know
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something about college, you know nothing. You are completely ignorant. And anything that you
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would ever say to a man 15, 20 years younger than you is garbage. Don't even think about doing it
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because you're wrong. The degree of depravity in these places, I don't know the frequency with
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which it's doubling. It's certainly more than every five years. But the notion that someone who
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is in college 25, 30 years ago has a clue what's going on today is it's wicked. I'm telling you
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right now, don't tell anyone, oh no, it's going to be fine. And I include the Christian colleges,
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isn't that? Three things will happen if you send girls off to college. They will become whores,
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they will become witches, and they will apostatize. I know that sounds completely overblown and over
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the top. I'm sure some of you are just laughing at me right now. By degrees, all those things will
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happen. Because as Corey said, girls need a head. We talked about I think in the Feminism episode
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about the fact that the marriage ceremony where the father gives his daughter's hand to the groom.
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Not only is it a transfer of title, it's a transfer of headship.
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It is saying the father who was the head of this girl is now making this man her head.
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She has to have a head. When you send her away, she doesn't have a head. I don't want to abuse the
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term literally, but this is more than a metaphor here. This is a functional spiritual real thing,
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and there's no work around. And there is no in loco parentis when you have a Christian college.
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Because I'll tell you what, the people who are teaching in those places have themselves all
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gone to colleges that are being corrupted. All the things you hear people complaining about
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politically, socioeconomically, sociopolitically, any way you want to cut it, the institutions for
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learning are diseased. Frankly, the very fact that there would be a co-ed college is by itself an
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indication that you're dealing with a wicked place. You would never, ever in a million years,
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throw a bunch of horny teenage boys and girls in one place and think, oh, they're fine. I
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catechize them. They'll turn out just fine. That's insane. That is being the worst possible father.
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So, again, we're saying stuff that seems extreme and it seems absurd. I'll put my credibility
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on the line. We're not going far enough. We're not going to describe the things that we know
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are going on because we'd have to put an explicit warning on this thing. And some of you would
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probably just turn it off and never listen again. The stories about what happens are unconscionable.
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They're worse than anything that we have until you go back to the dawn of recorded history
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and talking about Greek and Roman-level pagan practices that today are cultural. They're normal.
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They're things that go on. And witchcraft, same deal. I went, girls, the notion of spiritual but
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not religious, that is basically the expression of how girls view religion. A girl without a head
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saying, you are going to be Christian. She may hang on for a time. I'm not saying that they're not
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capable of having faith or maintaining faith. I'm saying that their faith will be put to the test
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in a way that men can't understand. We don't have the social necessity to get our bearings from other
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people. That's not the case with girls. They fundamentally get their bearings from what the
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group is doing. And so when the group is influenced by any degree by something negative,
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it's naturally going to nudge a girl much more than a guy. Now, obviously, we all know the guys
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can fall into peer pressure, but it's much more of a binary decision. Guys say, do something stupid
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and other guys say, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. I'll take that dare. Or they just
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say, no, I want no part of this scene. Guys can make that sort of a decision and walk away from a
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group or just tell the group, I want nothing to do with this. If you guys are going to do this,
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I'm going to bounce. Girls virtually never had that kind of fortitude. And it's endemic to their
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nature. It's not a question of weak character. I'm not trying to suggest if you have a really
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tough girl, she's going to be fine. We're fundamentally different. The sexes are different
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that the couple episodes we did on women is specifically dealing with the fact that we're
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not the same stuff. And so the problems that girls will face are in some ways fundamentally
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different from the problems that men will face. And for the young guys, as Corey said, who are
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looking for marriageable material, forget whether she's attractive or whatever degree of intelligence
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you find appealing. Something that we mentioned before that blew up online a few years ago
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was a controversy around debt free virgins without tattoos. Debt free means she doesn't have a
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negative dowry. If you send her off to college, you're almost certainly putting her in debt.
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That debt is functionally a negative dowry. You're saying to her husband, he's going,
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her future husband, you're going to have to pay off this five or six figure debt before you can
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even break even on taking my daughter out from under my wing. And guys do that without a second
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thought. That's evil. That's completely evil. A negative dowry is the most maniacal thing imaginable.
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Apart from the rest, forget the sexual promiscuity or any of the rest. Just saddling her with debt
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so that she can go learn something that's probably useless in most cases. I mean, when you look at
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the degrees that girls are completing relative to men, it's mostly blow off garbage. It's just
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stuff that shouldn't even be higher education. It's a joke. And yet, they are just getting
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saddled with debt that is not dischargeable in bankruptcy, is going to completely disrupt future
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family formation in any guy with any sense. This is the advice to young men. Think long and hard
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about even dating a girl who has much college debt. If it's 5,000, 10,000, that's one thing.
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It's usually not. It's usually closer to six figures. So you should write them off. I'll say
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flat out and I think Corey agrees. You should write a girl off if she's six figures in debt
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without hesitation. Because Corey said she has an idiot father. She has clearly no judgment.
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And she has a boat anchor around her neck. And you want to attach that to your future family? No.
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You have a choice as a young man. You're trying to filter and winnow things down.
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That's an easy place to start. Virgins, we talked about that in past episodes. It's
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virtually a lost cause. And frankly, one of the things that goes into
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a young man trying to find a girl who has been sexually chased is she's going to have to be
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younger in a lot of cases. So we'll talk in a little bit about talking to fathers instead of
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talking to daughters to meet their daughters. And we referenced the episode around job boards
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at church. I think we're going to need to see arranged marriages come back for a while.
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Now, on the subject of younger marriages and disparate marriages, guys who are knowledgeable
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about particularly American history will know that in the 16, 17, 1800s, I think marriages were
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typically like 22, 23, 24 range, depending on the culture and whatever. Those were fundamentally
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Christian cultures where the girls were living under their parents' roof. So you cannot compare
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it to today because the single number of age is not communicating the same thing in 2023
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that it communicated in 1723. It's just not. The 16-year-old girl, the 18-year-old girl,
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the 23-year-old girl, that is the march of time where they have been under continuous influence
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from a wicked society, encouraging them to give up their virginity and then to go further and
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further and further in frequency, depravity, and profligacy of their sexual misconduct. And
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they'll do it because it's fun and everyone else is doing it. And again, they want to fit in.
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Who wants to be a prude? Who wants to be the girl who's on the outs with the group?
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And even in a Christian college, this stuff still happens. Maybe parents still hear about it,
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but I promise you I've heard about it. I've heard names of children, of pastors, doing this stuff.
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It's not the point. The point is you can't just trust, but you baptize the kid and cataclysm
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that they're not going to misbehave when they get away from you.
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So what do we do? Simple thing. Don't send her to college. Don't sell her with debt.
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Don't give her into an environment where she's likely to engage in sexual promiscuity.
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And for young men, one of the things that they said, Corey and I talk a lot to younger guys in
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18, 22, 23 range all the time. And most of them are trying not to despair about this stuff.
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They have a stiff upper lip and they're trying to do the right things. And they are trying to
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trust in God. And one of the reasons that we're doing this episode is to encourage that and also
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to encourage the guys who are not, they're just not seeing it. They're not seeing any hope.
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For fathers with daughters, these guys exist. And if you have a 16, 17, 18 year old daughter
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who is looking at going off to college, not only don't send her off to college,
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but at least have open in your mind the prospect that maybe you should be a participant,
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not completely. I'm not saying, we're not suggesting I'm going to hand a man to a girl and say,
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here you go. This is a 100% arranged marriage. We're saying that matchmaking, historically,
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was a family function. It was a parental function. It wasn't a social thing where you just send these
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headless kids off when they're at their maximum sexual energy and desire and minimum ability to
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comprehend or appreciate future consequences for their actions, where they don't have impulse
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control to the degree that they will when they're 10 years older. You don't send them off and then
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expect everything to work out, hunky dory. So fathers, if you're listening, at least consider
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working somehow. And again, we don't know how that's going to manifest. Just we want people to
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begin thinking about just like job boards and churches, you should be thinking about finding
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pairs for your sons and daughters. The ideal best case for some sort of
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arranged marriage sounds so formal. It's really more about introduction and encouragement.
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When every child has two choices, there are basically four permutations. Either you have
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good parents and you obey them or you rebel or you have bad parents and you obey them in being bad
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or you rebel and act good. So there are two good outcomes and there are two bad outcomes
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and they're reversed depending on the quality of parent you have. If you're a good parent,
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you want to encourage good behavior in your sons and daughters. And some of that's going to be
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supporting them, not just sending them loose, not just saying, yeah, good luck, get out of here.
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I've put up with you for 18 years. I'm going to pay off some of your debt for college and then
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I'm going to go buy a boat and focus on spending more time on vacation. That's what the boomers
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did to a lot of people. That's the model that we've inherited. And part of the generations
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episode is talking about the fact that there are no good models for this stuff. So when Cory and
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I talk about things like even mentioning arranged marriages and not sending kids off, especially
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sending girls, I don't think anyone should go to college. I think no more than 15% of the male
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population should ever set foot in college and today I think should drop to zero for probably a
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generation, at least until those places no longer exist and we've started from scratch.
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Either way, there's no model for what we're encouraging because the world is so evil and so
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far gone that of course you're not going to find a model for this stuff. So it's going to sound
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crazy and weird and crazy and weird. Everyone thinks, well, that's impractical. That can't
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possibly work. Well, it worked for centuries. It worked for most of human history. It didn't
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stop working. We stopped doing it and that's the distinction here. It's not that these things that
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we used to do quit working and we somehow evolved into a more erudite society. It's we just quit
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trying. We quit caring. Parents quit caring. They started setting their kids free and now we're
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living in the ashes of those poor decisions. Trying to sweep up these ashes and build something
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again is going to involve at least for maybe a generation or two doing some stuff that we haven't
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done in a long time. And so I'm very encouraged that I know there's some young men who are listening
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to this who specifically talked to fathers and said, I'd like to date your daughter or do you
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have any daughters? It sounds like such an antiquated kind of... There's no TV example for it unless
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you go back to the 1800s like a cowboy story or something. It sounds absurd because the models
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were taken away from us, but it's an entirely salutary thing. It's not the only possible option,
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but in a world on fire, it's potentially an option that should certainly be explored.
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In a very real sense, many of these problems are a form of antinomianism.
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And I mean that in a specific way. What we are in essence doing is ignoring nature. We're saying,
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well, we're Christian. And so these problems that are inherent in human nature are no longer
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a problem for us because we're Christian. And that's not true. It's not true in the sense of
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nature as God intended it. And so when you become a Christian, you still have to eat and drink.
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You still get thirsty. You still get tired. You are still a creature. You are still an animal, in
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fact. And so these demands of your physical nature are not removed by faith. That would be
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insane. That is to say, that would be to say that faith destroys ontology, that it destroys
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nature. It doesn't do that. If your theology destroys ontology, your theology is wrong.
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But then there's also the other sense where people are rejecting the fact that we live
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in a fallen world. They're saying, if you become Christian, then it doesn't matter that you live
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in a fallen world. No, it still matters very much because there are still temptations. There are
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still problems. You will still encounter these things in your daily life because you live in a
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fallen world and you are still fallen. And so, yes, your daughter may be a very good person.
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She may be able to recite the entire Catechism. She knows chunks of scripture by heart.
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She attends church every Sunday. She sings in the choir, all of these things.
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If you ignore the nature of women, you ignore the nature of girls, you ignore the fallen nature
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of humanity, and you send her off to a place where she is going to be surrounded by temptations and
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pressures, odds are she'll eventually crack. And you are responsible for that. And as well mentioned,
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one of the first things that you can notice about a supposed Christian college, if it's co-ed,
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it's not Christian. Period. That's the end of it. It may be Christian in many other ways. It may
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have a chapel. It may have required attendance. All these things that you see at Christian colleges,
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and for the record I went to one for one semester, but I did attend one. Just because it is Christian
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in name does not mean that it is Christian in practice. If it's co-ed, it has already proven to
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you that it rejects the fallen nature of man and seeks simply to ignore it. And by doing so creates
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immense occasion for temptation. And what does Scripture say about creating the occasion for
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temptation? Temptation must come, but woe to those by whom it comes. Do not be the one upon whom
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Christ upon whom the word of God is pronouncing woe. And speaking of woe, he said that women who go
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away to college become whores, witches, and apostates. I want to focus on that for a second,
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because some, as he mentioned, may think that that's an extreme position,
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may think that that's unreasonable, they think, of course they aren't going to do that. Well,
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here's the problem. If they become whores, they necessarily, in our society as it stands today,
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become the other two. And why is that? The answer is abortion. Now, I have a
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short podcast episode of my own podcast that did about abortion. I'll link that in the show notes,
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because it goes over this in more depth. But to go over it briefly here,
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you cannot have a society in which you have rampant promiscuity if pregnancy is still a very
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real, let's call it a risk, with every sexual encounter, which, in the state of nature,
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without what we have today, various devices and chemicals and such, that's just the way it is
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for women. Every sexual encounter risks pregnancy. That is, in fact, part of what keeps women chaste.
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It's that thing in the back of their mind telling them, if you do this dumb thing,
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there may be very real consequences that you cannot hide. Historically, that has helped to
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keep women chaste. That has helped to keep marriages stable. That has helped to keep
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society stable. But now we have prophylactics and we have so-called birth control. The problem is
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hormonal birth control, which is the one that women primarily use. Yes, it has a lot of
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negative environmental consequences and such, but that aside,
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hormonal birth control is abortifacient because it works in several ways. The first way it works is
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by attempting to regulate the woman's cycle so that she will not be fertile except during a
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certain window so she can manage things and not get pregnant. The second is that it makes
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her vagina and her internal anatomy inhospitable to spurn, so less likely for fertilization to
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take place. But the third method, and this one is the most morally objectionable, the others are
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problematic in their own way to a lesser degree. The third method is that it makes the lining of
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the uterus inhospitable to the implantation of the zygote. Now, for those who are far removed
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from biology, the zygote is just the fertilized embryo. That's a human life, according to
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Christian theology, which is to say it is a human life because it is according to God.
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And so if you change the chemistry or the hormones the way the uterine lining reacts
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with the zygote and cause implantation to fail, you've just caused an abortion. That's murder.
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And so women who are on birth control and having sex are guilty of murder,
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and so are the men who are having sex with them incidentally. And so there's your problem.
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If the women go off to college and become whores, they are almost certainly going
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to be on birth control. Well, now they're also murderous, which is to say witches,
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which is to say apostates. So that is not actually an extreme thing to say. That is just
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exactly what happens if you actually follow through the logic of what is being done.
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And Satan knows this. Satan knows exactly what he's doing. Your daughters may not know it,
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and they probably don't, because their health class probably did not cover that very simple
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biology I just went over in the space of five minutes. But this is something people don't know.
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I actually just yesterday asked chat GPT, the AI chat platform, just to see if it had been
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trained on this question. I asked it a handful of questions, a series of questions about abortion.
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Eventually I was able to get it to admit that hormonal birth control is abortifacient. But
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initially it gave false answers. It had been trained to lie, because of course it is a tool
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of the current ruling class of the order of our society. And so on these sorts of questions,
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it's trained to lie to you. Well, that's what your daughters are hearing in school. It's what
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your sons are hearing in school. If you ask most young people, they will not know that birth
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control is abortifacient. They will not know that it is murder to use it. At least murder to use it
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while you're sexually active. And so that is what they get introduced into. And so they become
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complicit in these heinous sins before they even know what they're doing.
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And the advice that's coming from doctors is not only false, but one of the worst things that's
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happening on the secondary effects of the pill is that doctors are encouraging usually mothers,
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because it's not the husband or the father who's taking his daughter for a gynecological check-up
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after she's had her first period. The gyno will say, oh, you need to get on birth control. It'll
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help regulate your flow. You're going to have much more comfortable periods. It's going to just make
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your life a whole lot better. So from the age of 12 or 13 or maybe even younger, many, many,
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many girls are being put on these drugs that alter your body in some ways permanently,
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because it effectively tricks the young girl's body into thinking she's been pregnant.
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And so you go on the pill when you're 13 and you don't go off the pill until you're 33.
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Guess what? Not only has your fertility plummeted via virtue of your age, but it's also been
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decimated by your body's hormones being tricked into a condition that results in provable harm.
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And so again, since we're trying to focus primarily on advice to young men, young men,
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one of the things that you should look for, I'm not going to say it's an absolute no, but
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best case, you would have a wife who had never been on birth control. As I said,
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like so many doctors are saying that now, that's like, it may be close to finding a unicorn.
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If she's an adult, like if she's 18, if she's a young adult, she shouldn't be,
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like, because Corey said that then goes not only to the false promises that they're making
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about your period, but they go to the direct promises of, oh, you can fornicate and not get
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pregnant. Additionally, there's harm to a girl having been on the pill. Some of that harm is
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mitigated over time. So it's not a death sentence. It's better for a virgin to have been on the pill
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and come off it after a few years than frankly, someone who's not a virgin who is never on the
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pill who's been promiscuous before you meet her. In a perfect world, you would find both.
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100 years ago, it would have been almost a given. So again, we're dealing with a circumstance where,
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as Corey was saying, like the deck is getting stacked against young men on virtually every
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count here, and we're not trying to set up some impossible goal where there's only one girl in
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10,000 that can possibly meet all these criteria. Most of these are not going to be hard and fast
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rules, but you, as a young man, should know that the longer and the more severely any of these
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things go on, the less suitable a wife she's going to be beyond any control of herself,
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beyond any question about being forgiven by Jesus. This is not, as we said in a couple of
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other episodes, as Corey said earlier, has nothing to do with forgiveness. This damage,
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this temporal consequences for sin is real, and much of it is immutable. It's like if you're a
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smoker for 20 years, and you smoke 10 packs a day, and then you quit, your lungs will slowly heal,
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but they'll never go completely back to normal. So yes, after 20 years, is it better to quit smoking
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than to continue smoking? Absolutely. Is it better for your lungs if you never smoked at all?
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Obviously. So we're talking about just being aware, first of all. Again, I don't want to give
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impossible circumstances, because by the time we get done describing all these things, there may be
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one girl in 50,000 that meets them all, and that's not, that would cause despair. We absolutely do
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not want young guys to despair. What we want is for you to have the best opportunity to find girls
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who are the most likely to be good wives, and we'll get into here in a minute in some of the
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scriptural descriptions of what a good wife is like, but there's stuff that scripture doesn't
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talk about because it didn't exist, because it was so horrifically evil that it took technology.
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Basically, it took demons putting this crap in the hands of humans before some of these modern
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things took off. So you as a young man need to, you know, and you as fathers who are listening,
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keep your daughters away from this crap, all of it. Don't put them in debt. Don't let them be put
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on the pill. And this is one of those things where just like daughters can now have abortions
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without their, without parental consent, stuff like the pill is happening too. In fact, I don't
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know what the state of, I believe that the pill was just taken off the prescription. I mean,
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it will be possible to buy it if it's not already in stores over the counter. That's a nightmare
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for all these reasons. Like it's, it's the reason that it went over the counter despite all the
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serious health risks is that the health risks are the point, the causing abortions, the destroying
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the future fertility, the messing up pair bonding, which is another critical part. A girl who has a
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natural cycle has fundamentally different taste in men than a girl who's on the pill. Most people
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don't know that. Most girls don't know that your tasting guys changes when you go off the pill.
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You will be repelled by some of the very things you find attractive, depending on whether or not
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you're on the pill. When you're on the pill and your body thinks you're pregnant, you're more
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attracted to nurturing, you're less attracted to brash, and there's a lot more to it. But basically,
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it sort of narrows down and weakens the range of men that you find appealing. And this is a vicious
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feedback cycle where men are then conditioned by their wives or their girlfriends on the pill
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to be weaker than they maybe naturally would be. And then when, you know, 10 years into your marriage,
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you finally decide, okay, you know, we're getting into our mid 30s, maybe it's time to have our first
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kid. She goes off the pill. And two months later, she's going to divorce you because she finds you
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repellent. This actually happens. It is a, it's a horrific risk. It's real. We may find some, some
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links and show notes for this. Take my word for it or not. This stuff actually happens. These,
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these chemicals fundamentally alter human beings. And so when it's your wife, who's pregnant, and
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all these things are happening naturally, it's a blessing from God, it's fine. You're there,
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you're nurturing, you're taking care of her. And if she's in a really weird mood, and you've got to
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just manage that gently, that is the blessing of a husband and wife living a life together.
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It's completely different when it's been chemically altered and you introduce
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not being in marriage and all these other things that just, they tear apart the very thing that
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God was trying to form. And so for fathers, don't let it happen for sons. Be aware of it. Again,
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we're not saying right off any girl. If you can find a girl that's never been on the pill that
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isn't in debt, doesn't have any tattoos. The reason tattoos come up is there's a very strong
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element of self-loathing in a lot of this. For a girl, there's a lot of self-loathing
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in acting out sexually. And it's, again, it's a vicious cycle where she does something that she
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knows she didn't, shouldn't do. She then regrets it. And to justify having done in the first place
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and to try to, try to assuage the guilt, she'll go do more to sort of double down and say, well,
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I can't have been wrong if I keep doing even more of it. And it sounds stupid, but that's a
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sort of rationalization that goes on in people. That's not particular to girls, but when it particularly
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comes to sexual activity outside of marriage, it's very common in tattoos and drugs and binge
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drinking. All these things are self-destructive. So something like tattoos are a good landmark.
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Again, we're not making an absolute moral pronouncement, although I do think it's,
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I think it's sinful, but principally because it's born of self-loathing.
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You see pictures of so many pretty young girls today. They're, they have perfect beautiful skin,
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they're incredibly attractive, and they're covered in doodles. They have these permanent,
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idiotic tattoos, not even art. They've just been, they've used their bodies like graffiti.
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And it's just, it shows that they're headless. It shows that they have bad fathers. It shows,
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or no fathers at all. It shows they have no good relationship with their father,
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and that they hate themselves to some degree. And that sort of self-loathing,
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again, it's a vicious, mutually reinforcing cycle where the more you do things that hurt
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yourself, the more you want to hurt yourself for punishing yourself for having done the thing in
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the first place. And it's why we see so much self-destruction in the world today. And then,
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you know, maybe they sober up when they're in their 30, 35, 40, and they say, well, where are all the
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good men? Well, all the good men are looking for a girl who hasn't been destroying herself for 25 years.
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Before we move on to the, the scripture, and then I guess finish up the episode with maybe some
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practical recommendations. And yes, I do recognize that I started to give a practical recommendation
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a little while ago and did not complete that. That is because we're going to do that at the
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end of the episode. But there's a blunt point, and I do mean blunt point that I wish to make here.
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As a man, one of the things that you are doing in a marriage, at least one of the things that you
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should be doing in a marriage, is you are buying a womb. And the reason I word it that way is
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because yes, marriage is a transfer of title in a sense. It is the father transferring title to
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the daughter to the husband. But in addition, I say you're buying a womb because that is the only
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way you can build a family. You cannot have children if your wife is infertile. Of course,
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you can't have children if you're infertile either. And so for those of you who need to hear it, lay
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off the marijuana. But as was mentioned earlier, there is a fertility window for women. If she
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is outside that window, if she is aged out of being fertile, you cannot build a family with her
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because she cannot have children. Unless, of course, God happens to bless her in her old age,
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but chances are you're not going to be Sarah having children at that late stage in life.
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And so for the men out there, as a simple short practical recommendation before we get to the
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other ones later on, marry younger. That has been historically normal. It varies in time and place,
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as was mentioned earlier, but it is entirely fine to marry younger. Your goal, assuming you are a
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good, upstanding Christian man, your goal is to build a family with this woman. If she needs to be
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10 years younger than you to do that, so be it. And before we continue, I want to make one thing
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clear. Again, we've used language like buying a womb and transfer of title. And those are specific,
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mechanical things about what's going on. I don't want anyone, particularly young guys,
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who are trying to figure this stuff out. And you hear a lot of strident, crazy talk on the internet.
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None of this is intended to dehumanize the girl that you want to marry. This is a person,
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is a human being that you're going to spend every day of the rest of your life with.
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She better be a good person. She better be kind and gentle and loving and someone you want to be
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around. That's a human being. That's not a womb with legs. That's not something that you've just
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gotten a title to. That's not property. That becomes a part of your own body. So the specific reason
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that Corey and I will narrowly speak in those terms, A, it runs completely countered everything
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everyone else is saying, but it is in fact true. But that doesn't mean that it's the whole picture.
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We don't think it's a whole picture. It's not even remotely the whole picture, but it's a necessary
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part of it. As Corey said, if the purpose of marriage is to procreate, which incidentally is
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what God said in Genesis 9, to Noah, Adam and Noah got the same message, and then it's reinforced
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again in the New Testament, procreation is one of the gifts that God gives us. That's a man and a
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woman becoming one flesh. The problems come in socially because the one flesh thing is a lot
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of fun, and all these technological so-called advancements let us have the fun without having
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the rest of our lives part of it, which God intended and which God builds into it. So
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if you're a young guy and there's a lot of people on the Internet say a lot of really baddy, weird
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stuff, and frankly, one of the reasons we want to do hope, we hope will be an encouraging episode to
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you, is because one of the things I see a lot of young guys struggling with, particularly when
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they're starting to figure out just how bad things are, is they become completely blackpilled
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and completely hateful towards the state of girls, to the point that they attribute that directly
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to just hating girls. And there's a whole subculture that sees that basically as a personality,
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that's somehow hating and dehumanizing girls and calling them horrible names,
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is how they express their existence as guys. We don't think that, and we condemn those who do
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because it's destructive. It's every bit as destructive to these girls as all the other
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things that are going on that in some cases may, frankly, merit some of the name-calling.
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It is a man's job to rise above the state of the world and to try to do things that are right,
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even when things are messed up. And the wisdom involved is figuring out what can I live with,
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where do I draw the line, and how do I conduct myself in a godly manner, in one that's going to,
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as Corey said, build a family. That's the point. You're not just loving one person. It's not just,
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oh, she's cute, and I want to get with her. You're going to spend the rest of your life with her
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because she's a person. She's a charming, attractive person that you want to have with
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you. And by your side, for all the attraction and all the flame early on, this is a companion who's
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going to be with you the rest of your life. And it's something that goes into mate choice up front,
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but then it pays dividends for the rest of your life. And as we get into some of the other
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practical stuff, I just want to mention that a lot of this is downstream from a girl's relationship
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with her father. The advice that I give to young guys, to mirror what Corey said, don't be shy about
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her being younger if you're avoiding some of these pitfalls. Not that it's necessarily the only
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correct solution, but if the only way you can find a girl who hasn't had sex with 20 guys or 10,
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wherever you want to draw the line, ideally, it should be zero. Her relationship with her
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father is going to be reflective of the relationship she will have with you. And that's
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something else you're buying. We talk about a mechanical transactional thing. The relationship
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that she has with her dad is going to mirror the relationship that she has with you. She's
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rebellious if she loathes headship, if she has it all figured out on her own, she's never going to be a
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good wife ever by any measure. She's never going to be a good wife because her dad screwed her up.
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You can't fix that. You can try, but you're going to fail because the only model she's ever had
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has been the sort of model that's going to finally tear you apart. No. Before no-fault
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divorce and some of these other things, maybe you could bear it out and maybe you could bring
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her around. But today, when you have literally no recourse for someone who decides that she wants to
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be a harpy or some other terrible thing, you're just out of luck. You're going to lose half your
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stuff and she's going to go on and you may be stuck paying her for the rest of your life for
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a bad relationship. That's not a reason not to get married, but it's very much a reason
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to focus on finding a good girl going into it. So being kind, being loving, being wholesome,
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just generic stuff, pretty, frankly not too hot. The hottest girl in the world that you've ever
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seen has had attention from so many guys that she's going to be mad. She's going to have become
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completely insane because no one can possibly cope with having that much positive attention.
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Find a girl who's pretty that you like. Maybe find a girl who's neglected that most guys don't see
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something in her that you see. That girl is going to love you a great deal more. One of the
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remarkable things about a girl loving you is that when she looks at you with that sort of love,
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her face transforms and she literally becomes more beautiful when she looks at you. Maybe no one
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else ever sees it, but you see it all the time. That is a very real thing. It's one of the things
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that I think guys, like I said, we talked to a lot of young guys. I don't think they're being
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super picky about it. I only want the hottest girl, but you want her to be attractive. It's
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crucial. You have to be attracted to the girl and beauty is a big part of that, but inner beauty
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is a real thing too because she's a human being. She's a person and so this transactional stuff,
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it's very specific and narrow. It's not remotely the whole context of your relationship or your
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marriage. That is two people becoming one in spending your lives together.
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To emphasize what was said about the nature of women, I'm reminded of
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something I said in episode 22 when we were also talking about women. That was our episode
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on women more properly. I pointed out and I think this is worth just reiterating here
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instead of just telling you to go back and listen to that episode.
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I pointed out that in the garden, Adam walked with God. Adam knew God face to face. Adam
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talked with God and yet God still said it is not good for man to be alone.
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Woman is the greatest blessing next to, of course, salvation as I also mentioned in the
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previous episode, but of course, Adam did not need salvation at that point.
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Woman is the greatest gift God has ever made for man and that is true for every man
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with regard to his wife and it is important to keep sight of that, not to lose sight of that.
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Even if we mentioned the problems we have today and yes, we're in a fallen world
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and woman has a rebellious streak, that's part of her curse and really it's a curse that falls on
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the man, but that's a separate topic for another time. Even though we live in a fallen world,
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she is still one of the greatest blessings God can give you and Scripture is very clear on that
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and I think that leads in nicely to talking about Scripture and so to start off, I would
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begin with Proverbs. Perhaps Proverbs 18 to start, he who finds a wife finds a good thing
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and obtains favor from the Lord, but perhaps even more than that verse Proverbs 19,
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house and wealth are inherited from fathers, but a prudent wife is from the Lord.
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Scripture is very clear that a good wife is a gift from God. Yes, there are of course things that
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society can do to improve your odds of finding a wife, there are things fathers can do to raise
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daughters to be good wives, etc. However, ultimately that blessing is from God, as are all blessings.
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God uses human beings and the creation as his tools to deliver blessings to you,
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but ultimately those blessings are from God and Scripture here, very clear, a good wife,
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is a great blessing from God. Of course, we can also turn to Ecclesiastes and this emphasizes,
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and really we were echoing this point, but it emphasizes the point we were making about
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how you should go through life if God gives you a wife and so Ecclesiastes 9,
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enjoy life with the wife whom you love all the days of your life that he has given you under the sun,
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because that is your portion in life and is your toil at which you toil under the sun.
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I think as we look at the scriptural admonitions for what a good little wife looks like,
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it's basic and it's obvious, but I think maybe we don't necessarily test ourselves, particularly
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before marriage, you know, when there's a young man or young woman just trying to figure out
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who do I want. These passages are not just about, okay, once I'm married, this is how I ought to
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behave. Some of these things are qualitative about the person themselves. Can you as a girl,
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can you as a young man live up to these things? Have you lived yourself your life in such a
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wooden fashion that you can deliver on these expectations from God? And if you're on a path
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where you are perhaps disrupting some of the things that make it possible for you to deliver
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on what God expects, amend your ways now, because it's not just about cleaning up your act once
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you get married. That's frankly one of the biggest tropes today that girls live wild. They do
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unspeakable things with insane numbers of men, and then they decide to settle down,
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and then they decide to be the good girl. And so effectively, the one man who's actually willing
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to give her a chance is settling for the leftovers of 50 guys who came before. And
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she feels it, even if he doesn't know it, and if he ever finds out he's destroyed by it,
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either directly destroyed by the realization in his own disgust, and then the situation of
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being in a marriage with a woman who has done these things, or he destroys himself as a man by
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effectively accepting that sort of behavior and saying, oh, well, I guess I love you anyway,
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and that's what I've got. There's no fixing those situations. And that's one of the reasons that
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God speaks to this directly. In 1 Corinthians 6, he says,
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the body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
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And God raised the Lord, and will also raise us up by his power. Do you not know that your
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bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a
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prostitute? Never. Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her?
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For it is written, the two become one flesh, but he who is joined to the Lord becomes one
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spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits outside of the body,
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but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body
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is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own for your
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bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. Now, the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the
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Holy Spirit is one that's fundamentally about choosing to drive out the Holy Spirit. And
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I think that this passage goes directly to one of the paths that can lead to that. If your body
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is a temple for the Holy Spirit, which is true, there's no if about it, if you're a Christian.
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And you continuously sin in ways that you know or sin and you do them anyway, because you want
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the upsides and you don't fear the downsides. Either you think God wasn't serious, or you'll
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make up for that next Sunday, or you're just not going to think about it. Eventually you will drive
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out the Holy Spirit. If you make your body a temple for fornication, that is what it will become.
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And God in numerous places says that he gives people over to their lusts. If you want to say,
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I don't want God, I want this other thing instead, something that was created by God as a gift within
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the boundaries that he established. If we say, no, I'm going to steal that for myself, I'm going to
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do what I want with it, use it the way I want it. You're in danger in your soul. And as Corey said
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earlier, a lot of this is about antinomianism, because people think, you know, I don't want
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to judge people, I'm just going to let that slide. I can do a little bit and it's fine.
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You're going in one direction or the other. And I want to mention just briefly here,
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targeting back to what we discussed in the Listener Feedback episode about chastity versus
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celibacy. If you're a young man and you wonder, maybe I'm just celibate,
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celibate means that if a completely naked beautiful girl walks up to you and she has a
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big smile and she asks you some question, if your response, your sole response is to be annoyed with
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her for behaving in such a way and you send her away. And when she walks away, you don't even
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glance up to check her out, then you're celibate. That's pretty much the threshold for celibacy,
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that I don't care, I don't want anything to do with sex, period. Everyone else is trying to be
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chaste. This passage is talking about chastity. Someone who is celibate doesn't need to flee
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sexual immorality because they're not capable of sexual immorality. If you're celibate,
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there's none of it for you. It's a gift from God that's so incredibly rare as we said in
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episode 22. You don't know anybody. It's not you. It's conceivable. It's a gift from God that exists
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in some cases, but it's so rare that you shouldn't take it seriously as a thing. And the reason that's
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important is that for everyone else, chastity is a duty. It's a duty to God to preserve the bounds
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of this gift within the scope for which God gave it. When you remove sex from the boundaries of
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marriage, you are unchaste. That's what it means. Chastity has to do with refraining from that,
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which is outside what's given to you. Young men particularly struggle with chastity because,
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as I said earlier, you're surrounded by girls who are sexually promiscuous, who
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visually display their sexual availability by dressing in ways that would have gotten people
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arrested even 20 years ago. Today, it's basically just normal. That's a nightmare for any young man
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who's full of testosterone, which incidentally leads directly to sexual desire. The hormone is
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there for that purpose, as Corey said earlier in one of the On Women episodes. One of the metabolites
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for girls drinking alcohol is testosterone. They get hornier when they drink. It doesn't
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happen that way with guys. We are naturally sexually amped up by virtue of being men,
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and chastity is confining that to your wife. If you don't have a wife, then you just try as best
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you can to turn it off. You don't put yourself in situations where you're going to be tempted,
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and if there is temptation, you flee from it. As many passages in scripture say, you do what Joseph
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did with Potiphar's wife. He tried to seduce her. She fled. It was a sure thing. I'm sure she was
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beautiful. She was wealthy. She was ready to go, and Joseph fled because it was wicked, and he was
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faithful to God. That's chastity. Incidentally, it wasn't celibacy. Joseph wasn't celibate. He was
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obeying God by fleeing temptation because he was tempted. There would not have been temptation
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if he were celibate. Don't let pastors try to box you into a corner where they say,
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oh, right now you're blessed with a gift of singleness. That's not a gift. That is a temporary
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condition, and you pray to God to send you a godly wife, as he has promised he intends for all men.
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When that day arrives, then chastity is set aside, and you love your wife. You love only her,
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and you love her completely, and she loves you. It's an if-then situation. It's not me,
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and then maybe later I'll turn it on. That's not the case. Be chased when you're young.
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Be chased when you're unmarried, and when you're married, stop being chased, as God says, except
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for a time by mutual agreement. Otherwise, you need to continue to maintain that one flesh union,
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because it is absolutely a part of maintaining your marriage. A marriage is maintained. It's not
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a flag that gets set on you, like something gets put on your driver's license, an endorsement.
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A marriage is sustained by the activity within the marriage, the conduct you have with each other,
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the way you treat each other, and part of that is the opposite of chastity. The gift is given to
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you by God, and you're expected to use it, and if one part of you or the other ceases to the
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marriage will wither, it will absolutely be harmed by your failure to love your spouse as you were
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intended to. Scripture is very clear on that point. Neither the wife nor the husband is entitled
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to withhold sex from the other. Extremely clear that that is not something that you are permitted
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to do, except, of course, by agreement for a period of time for reasons of self-control or prayer.
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But I think this is a good point to emphasize something that is going to come up in the mind of
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some of the particularly younger male listeners, and that is the problem of pornography. Now,
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I wrote a short piece on that. I'll link it in the show notes, but I want to hit on some of the
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but I want to hit on some of the points of that here.
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You shouldn't fall into despair if you have that habitual sin.
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So long as you regret having fallen into that sin again and wish to do better,
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because if you regret that sin and wish to do better, that's repentance.
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Just because you fall into a habitual sin does not mean that you have given yourself over to a
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reprobate mind or you've fallen away or any of these other things. Don't give in to despair.
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That is what Satan wants you to do. Satan is that little voice telling you,
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well, you gave in again. You'll never kick this habit. You may as well just not care.
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If you give in completely, that is when it becomes the problem of driving out the Holy Spirit.
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If you fall into these, particularly this kind of habitual sin as a young man,
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try to do better. Look for ways that you can suppress the temptation,
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but as long as you have that repentance, you have that regret, you have that desire to turn away
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from the sin and back toward God. That is the mark of a Christian. That is the work of the law
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turning you away from your sin and back to God. That is things functioning
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not exactly as they should, because obviously ideally you wouldn't fall into the sin,
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but it is things in light of your fallen nature and having fallen into that sin functioning as
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best they can. And so I do recommend for all the young men and for other listeners as well
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to go and read that piece. I think that I make a number of important points in that piece about
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the reality of this particular topic given current circumstances in our culture at large.
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I think one important thing to address here is that this is fundamentally a question of
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desires that are properly ordered versus desires that are disordered. It is absolutely properly
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ordered for you to desire to see a woman naked. What is disordered is that you're not to desire
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that of all women, you're to desire that of your wife and no one else. So it's a filter where on
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one side you want everything about your wife and you should want nothing of other women,
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and if you don't have a wife it should mean that you want nothing of any of them sexually.
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So when someone is tempted by sexual desire by someone who's not his wife,
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as you struggle with that, know that you're struggling with a properly ordered desire that's
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misplaced because you're looking at someone that's not your wife. You shouldn't be looking,
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you shouldn't be looking at a screen or a magazine or some figmentary representation
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of a human being that's disembodied, that's no longer human, it's just an image.
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That's one of the other destructive things about
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viewing other people remotely like that, and it's an incredibly surreal and virtually
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impossible thing that we face today, really entirely on the internet, but also even just
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with magazines and with television and really with the invention of the photograph or at least
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with the invention of easily reproduced drawings, because 200 years ago if you saw a beautiful girl
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the only way you're going to see her was with your own eyes. I'm not talking about sexual
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desire, not talking about seeing anyone naked or anything remotely like that, literally just
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seeing a pretty girl's face in almost all of human history was going to be pretty rare,
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like it's going to be a neighbor, it's going to be someone in your closer extended family,
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it's going to be someone in your tribe or clan, someone nearby, or perhaps you travel and you see
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a pretty girl somewhere else. Short of actually getting in with 30 feet of someone and seeing
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her with your own eyes or him with your own eyes for your girl, men and women are equally
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sexual when it comes to the visual, it's nonsense that there's a huge disparity,
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men are much more visual, but girls absolutely have the same sort of responses,
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just somewhat in different circumstances, so girls absolutely lust after guys when they look at them
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too, but it's much more about fantasy for them. The thing that we struggle with today, and I think
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the really bizarre dehumanizing aspect of images of people, regardless of anything else, regardless
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of sexual chastity, just the idea that you would see someone phenomenally beautiful because you're
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able to find a picture of them, it was impossible for almost all human history, which means that
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for us, for everyone on earth today, our beauty standards are completely bonkers,
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because 200 years ago, the best looking person in your town, maybe they're only average man or
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woman, maybe they're exceptionally pretty, if it was from a really good looking family,
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maybe there was an outlier, but it's so rare that the idea that you have to have the incredibly
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beautiful man or woman would never occur to anyone, because that person, when Helen of Troy,
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the face that launched a thousand ships, there was a joke on Twitter a few months ago that Helen
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of Troy was mid, I think she wasn't really all that attractive, she probably was, but was she
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the most beautiful person on the planet? Whatever. Today, we all see people more beautiful than
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anything that would have potentially existed in antiquity, not necessarily because the people
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are actually that beautiful, but because lighting and makeup and digital alteration fabricate
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fake versions of human beings, after starting with a human being who's so rare in terms of
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their relative beauty, and physical beauty is not only subjective, it's also objective.
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I think we talked about in a previous episode, the factors of symmetry and actually the
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golden ratio itself in the proportions of a face and a body go directly to the beauty of a person.
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You can mathematically demonstrate how close someone's visual appearance is to an ideal
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mathematical form, and the closer it is to that, the more attractive they are.
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All these alterations make someone who's, hey, they're not your neighbor, they're someone remote.
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In most cases, particularly with porn, they're probably the victims of sex trafficking,
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so you're participating in multiple levels of evil at that point.
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But then you're looking at people far away who have been altered in ways that make them no
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longer human. They're a doppelganger representation of, frankly, in most cases today, a pretty
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disgusting version of beauty that we've been taught by media who controls the media to say,
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oh yeah, that's great. We see so many young girls now getting lip filler. It's revolting.
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It turns them into goblins, beautiful faces, turned into hideous, inhuman things that are
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suddenly on the wrong side of the uncanny valley because so-called doctors are butchering their
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faces to chase these artificial ideas of beauty that no one of their own accord would reach.
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So even just looking at these sorts of things fundamentally distorts our view of the people
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we actually see around us. If you spend all your time watching movies or TV or something until
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recently, it was always going to be some of the hottest people. Today, they're abnormally unattractive,
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which is itself another form of assault. But these unnatural experiences, including porn,
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including seeing intimate things that you should only ever see, much of it should never be seen
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because so many things that are done are unnatural. They're disordered and evil.
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But even just absolutely normal, appropriate sexual activity, you should only see that if
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you're seeing it in first person with your wife. And divorcing any aspect of any of this from
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the reality of one man and one woman brought together by God makes it all worse. But it
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makes it worse in ways that can often become inescapable. We talked about the pill destroying
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girls' bodies, destroying their ability to be attracted to a man or to gestate correctly.
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Porn absolutely destroys a man's ability to function sexually. It's a very, very common
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complaint among girls today that guys who have become habituated and addicted to
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viewing pornography can no longer function sexually. In some cases, it may take a while
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to go away. In some cases, it may never go away because you're functionally burning out a part
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of your brain that was never supposed to be burned out in the first place. When you have a naturally
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properly ordered marriage with a woman or a man, you don't burn out. You have all things in moderation
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and you enjoy them fruitfully and with each other and there's no burnout. You can't unless
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she's cooking way too much good food and you get fat. But she has an incentive not to make you fat
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because she doesn't want to look at you being fat. So there's always a mutually reinforcing
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aspect to an actual real relationship and it completely vanishes when you're looking at an
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image of someone who's not even real. I want to read the verse that I mentioned earlier because
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I think it's important to read the actual words of scripture, not just mention them so that those
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who know what I'm referencing know the verse. But I mentioned having a wife and the wife not
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withholding from her husband, the husband not withholding from his wife and that is of course
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First Corinthians. But because of the temptation to sexual immorality each man should have his
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own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights
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and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body,
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but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body,
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but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time
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that you may devote yourselves to prayer, but then come together again
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so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
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And so scripture's incredibly clear that sex is part of marriage and it's not a part of marriage
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that is optional. As we've mentioned before it is in fact the definition of marriage because
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marriage has to be consummated. I would also like to emphasize something that Woe said previously
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about singleness in particular. For those pastors and teachers out there or others,
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anyone in a position of authority or really even if you aren't in a position of authority,
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if you've just put this out there, if you've repeated this lie, if you have said that singleness
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is a blessing, you need to publicly recant that because that is false.
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Celebrity is a blessing. Now is it conceivable that God could use singleness as a blessing for
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a season? Absolutely. But blessing by and large is something that is in accord with God's ordering
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things and singleness is not as this verse makes clear. Each man should have his own wife. Each woman
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should have her own husband. That is the natural order of things. That is what God intends.
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He made them man and woman. We have many verses about that starting with Genesis 2.
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Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife and they shall
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become one flesh. This runs throughout Scripture. And so singleness when you describe it in terms
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of being some sort of great blessing, you are lying about God in his word and you are doing
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very real harm, particularly to the young men and women who are single and very much do not wish to
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be so. And so if you hold to that position, I certainly hope that God does something that will
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make it so that you are no longer able to teach that false doctrine up to it, including striking
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you mute and having your teeth right out of your head. Because there should be very real
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consequences for false teachers who teach these sorts of evil things. And personally I am sick
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of hearing that one. Not personally as in in reference to me, but personally sick of hearing it
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with regard to other young men, because these are young men who have very real problems,
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who are facing a world that is stacked against them. And then they have teachers and those in
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positions of authority and worse pastors in many cases saying these incredibly wicked and harmful
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things. Apparently some pastors, teachers and others should think long and hard about the
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stricter judgment. One of the last passages I wanted to get into is from 1 Peter 3.
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Likewise, wives, be subject to your husbands so that even if some do not obey the word, they may
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be one without a word by the conduct of their wives. When they see you respectful and pure
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conduct, do not let your adorning be external, the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold
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jewelry or the clothing you wear, but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with
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the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.
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For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves
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by submitting to their own husbands is Sarah Obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord,
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and you are her children if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.
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Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the
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woman as the weaker vessel since they are heirs with you of the grace of life so that your prayers
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may not be hindered. I think this is another small example of something that this is not a
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passage that's just for okay once you're married, but for a young man, if you're looking for girls,
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I don't think that we necessarily need to treat this as never adorning yourself
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in any sort of fine clothing because there are many examples in scripture where
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that is a godly and upright thing. You know, the discussions of marriage,
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feast, wedding, feast, and other sorts of celebrations, adorning in beautiful fashion
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is not idolatrous. It can be a celebration. However, it's very common again because of the
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depraved culture in which we live for particularly girls to be, to see a fashion as identity,
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you know, just as guys, you young guys especially have the problem of when you fall into complete
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irony or wisecracking or blackpilling or complaining or whatever.
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Emotional responses to things are not a personality. A personality is more than just
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a reactive knee-jerk response to, you know, some social input.
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Girls need to be the sort of human beings who do not see their clothing as their personality
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on top of not being giving the exhibition of promiscuous sexual behavior. You know,
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she should be dressed in a chased way, but you also don't want a girl who's caked in makeup and is
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always, always dressed to the nines because that sort of person is, she's going down a path where
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look at me, look at me is more important than who she is inwardly.
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And, you know, makeup is a, as a small example, but I would put makeup up there almost on the
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same level as, as the pill. You know, I have, I know guys who when they early on when they met
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their wives are like, I don't, I don't want to see you in makeup. An attractive girl doesn't
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need or use a bunch of that crap. It's, it's another one of those memes that was frankly
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introduced into, well, it's been around for a long time, obviously, they're examples from antiquity of,
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of makeup being used, but it's notable that they were almost always used in profane fashions
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or just as, as idolatrous fashion, you know, either directly as part of some ceremony,
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of some ceremonial evil, or just as a part of a culture that was itself just kind of ambiently
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evil. It's not like a girl who's ever worn makeup is out of the cards, but hey, you want to see
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what she looks like without makeup because makeup can completely transform a face and you may think
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you're looking at one person. And when you see her without makeup, she's a completely different
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person. Maybe you find one attractive and you find the other one completely unattractive and
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you should know which is which before you marry her because that's, you have every right to know
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whom you're marrying. So it's a small thing, but it's one of those things that, you know,
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ideally, it really shouldn't even exist. And, you know, we, there's talk of natural beauty and
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it's a real thing. Someone who, someone who's living a chaste and wholesome life, who's happy,
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who's at peace with God, is genuinely more attractive. In someone who has to resort to this
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sort of trickery, usually is, again, they're usually engaging in some degree of self-loathing.
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It's certainly deceitful and it's often, you know, maybe it's just low self-esteem. It's not at all
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irredeemable. Sometimes it tends toward self-hatred and that's usually when you see not only
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egregious amounts of makeup, but also tons of piercings, tattoos, like all these things that are
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physically altering the appearance of a girl away from what God made. God made one thing and then
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they go in a completely different direction. That's not a good sign. A girl or a man should
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become more himself in God and as he lives his life or her life, we should become more of what
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God wants and not less. And when we flee from the bodies that he gave us and the faces that he gave
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us, you know, if you want to improve your body, men lift weights. I can tell you in particular,
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if you're young men, start lifting now. The younger, the better. Like, you know, there's,
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there's a minimal age beneath which it may not be good for you related to growth plates, but
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by the time you're 15, 16, you absolutely should be doing a lot of vigorous physical exercise
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because I can tell you as an older guy, the muscle that you gain when you're 15, 20, you keep very
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easily the rest of your life. Muscle you gain when you're in your 30s, you got to work or it goes away.
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It's not free anymore. It's remarkable. I used to, I was a paper boy. I pedaled six days a week,
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90 minutes a day up and down some pretty serious hills. My thighs are really strong and they've
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stayed strong despite not doing anything particular with them. That muscle I basically just got for
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free as a kid accidentally. Do the work now, put in the work now, and you will have a much easier
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life when you're older because strength is good. Strength is something that God commends. It makes
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your life easier, makes you more attractive, makes you more confident. And for young men,
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I think that's a big part of this is that finding confidence when you necessarily don't have a lot
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of reasons for it, especially when you're young, is one of the hardest hurdles to feel like you have
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something worth sharing with a girl. There's a fundamental difference between the way girls
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viewmate selection and guys. Guys want to be worth a girl wanting them. And girls today are
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effectively the choosers. And that's, it affects everything in our lives. And when, when may selection
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is running properly, you know, when the community, when parents are involved, and the inputs when
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the young man, the young woman are chased and they're doing the right things or trying to,
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that reinforcement of wholesomeness just takes off in its grade.
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Unfortunately, today we're living in a world where everything seems to be set against us.
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But one thing that you can do as a young man is just build something, build yourself into something,
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and trust in God to deliver in his time a girl who will like who you are, who will love who you
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are. Because that's what you need. It's what you know you need. I think that the biggest hurdle
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for guys dealing with being alone is that there's an inherently ironic tension between
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the thing that you want as a young man more than anything else is to, to have a girl, to have
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someone to love and to be the man that she wants, that she wants, period. The problem with that,
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and the reason I used irony correctly, I hope here is that if she can smell, if she can instinctually
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detect that the thing that you want more than anything is to have a girl or for, especially for
01:42:40.440 --> 01:42:46.760
it to be her, that's inherently repellent. It's completely insane. It's completely backwards.
01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:51.720
But the very thing that's the most important to you, if you let it come across as anything remotely
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like desperation, it becomes repulsive. And so while it's a properly ordered desire for you to
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want a girl to want a wife, it is counterproductive if that becomes a conscious aspect of how you
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conduct yourself. You can shape yourself into a man that you want to be, that you want, you know,
01:43:12.360 --> 01:43:17.480
is God pleasing and will please a wife at some point. But if everything that you do is focused
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entirely on, I hope she likes me, I hope she sees this, she might see it, but I promise you she will
01:43:24.040 --> 01:43:28.840
not like it. And it's cruel and it's completely backwards. It's, it's one of the most insane
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things about human existence, but it's an immutable law. And it's a tough thing for guys to get over.
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But the simple rule is have some confidence, even if it's, even if it's hallucinatory for a time,
01:43:43.400 --> 01:43:50.040
and relax, be happy and confident in who you are, even if you're just a goofball, I don't go over
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the board with being goofy, but be confident in who you are, and that itself becomes appealing.
01:43:55.800 --> 01:44:01.960
And if you can just set aside that the intense desire to not be alone, that is how you actually
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satisfy that desire. I was tempted to add Proverbs 31, because of course it fits here. But one,
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we've already moved into the end of this episode and describing some of the ways, some of the
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practical things for young men to do, young men in particular to do, to aid in finding a wife and
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just really living life. But I think instead I'll recommend, go listen to episode 22, that includes
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reading Proverbs 31 in that episode. But we already went over some of the major issues here. Avoid
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pornography, develop an actual personality. That should go without saying, but really it does need
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to be repeated. You need to have an actual personality, not just things that you hate.
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Don't make that your personality that will make everyone want to avoid you.
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But on a purely practical note, not just lifting weights, do some exercise, and I'm going to remind
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everyone, don't forget cardio. You actually do need your cardiovascular system, or you're not going to
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have a particularly good go of things. Get a hobby. It almost doesn't matter what the hobby is.
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I am going to recommend you not get obsessed with Star Wars or Star Trek, probably not the best hobby.
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Men who do that tend to start building weird shrines. But whatever the hobby happens to be,
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if it's painting miniatures, fine, do that. Great. Maybe also transform what you learn from the hobby
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into something practical as well. Maybe take up a little bit of woodworking along with it,
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because you've already learned the painting part. But it's important for men to have a hobby. You
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need some sort of outlet, something into which you can pour some energy and time.
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And it helps along with women as well, because then you will have something to discuss. I'm
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not saying talk to her about the details of every miniature that you have in your collection.
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Some women will enjoy that. Some won't. You have to be able to gauge that for yourself.
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But it makes you more interesting if you have things in your life that do not involve her,
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that don't involve any women, because they're things in your life that you're doing because
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you want to do them. That is attractive to women. But insofar as the practical advice goes,
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one of the things that I continually recommend, and I think it is one of the best and easiest
01:46:42.040 --> 01:46:48.040
things you can do simply to feel a little better, is go for a walk every day.
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Just go for a short walk every single day, 20, 30 minute walk. If you have a dog, great. If you
01:46:56.360 --> 01:47:00.680
don't have a dog, fine. Go walk by yourself, walk with a neighbor, whatever it happens to be.
01:47:01.320 --> 01:47:07.000
It gets you outside. It gets you a little cardio. It gets you some exercise. You will feel better
01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:13.240
if you do this. It absolutely works. All of the research shows this is a good thing for you.
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Anyone to whom you talk who has picked up this hobby will tell you this helps.
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And sometimes it is the simple things in life that help. God created a beautiful world
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and it's outside your window. Don't spend all your time inside, particularly in a dark room.
01:47:30.360 --> 01:47:34.760
Go outside, get some sunlight, go for a walk, get a little cardio. You will feel better.
01:47:35.080 --> 01:47:41.000
And in the same vein of very simple advice, drink some water. You're probably dehydrated,
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particularly if you've picked up the bad habit of drinking energy drinks.
01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:51.160
Hydration actually matters. Again, this is back to you're still a creature. You're still an animal.
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There are things you have to do to take care of yourself. These are some of the basics.
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These are things that your father, the authority figures in your life should have taught you,
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should have helped you with these things. Maybe some of them did great. Maybe they didn't,
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which is more and more likely these days. You need to do it yourself.
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There's a wealth of resources for these things. You can improve your life and improve yourself,
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which will not only make you feel better, but will improve your odds of finding a wife,
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if that is what you were attempting to do. And I mentioned earlier that I would give
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some practical advice on the actual finding a wife part, in addition to the don't look at college,
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because that's probably not a good plan. And so for the fathers who were thinking, I sent my
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daughter off to college to find a husband. No, you didn't. And it's a bad plan if you did.
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But for the young men out there, if you're looking for a wife, go to the grocery store.
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Some of the cashiers are probably single. Go to a coffee shop. Some of the baristas are probably
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single. There are women all over the place. You don't have to go to a bar or a club or college
01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:14.520
or any of these places you're told you can find women there. Go to a bookstore. Go there and read
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for a while. See the women who walk in and out. There are plenty of places you can find women.
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And this leads into some of the most important advice for some of the young men in the audience.
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You need to be comfortable with rejection. Now I know that social anxiety is rampant in the
01:49:35.320 --> 01:49:39.800
zoomer generation and younger. And quite frankly, millennials are pretty bad about it as well. Try
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:44.840
ringing the doorbell for a millennial. Good luck getting someone to actually answer.
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But you need to get over it. That's the long and the short of it. It's blunt, but it's true.
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Practice. Go up to a woman. Ask for a number. If she says no, okay, that's one woman out of there
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are 300 million people in this country. So about half are women. Some 40% of that, probably about the
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age range for you. Okay, so one out of tens of millions of potential women told you no. That's
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not the end of the world. Get over it. Try again.
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That's how you do things. And you know what's great about it? If you take it the right way, when
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you're rejected, and you will be rejected, it doesn't matter if you're the most attractive
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man on the planet and have millions of dollars. Some women still won't like you.
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If you're rejected and you take it the right way, it gets easier to approach women in the future.
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And so each time you do that, it's easier. You are building up that confidence that you need.
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And yes, you can build confidence off of being rejected because you are getting more comfortable
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with yourself. And that shows women are more likely to respond positively when you are comfortable
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with yourself. And that takes practice because you probably didn't develop that growing up
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and you need to develop it now. In the common thread in both of those things you just mentioned,
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you know, approaching girls cold and going for a walk is that involves relaxation.
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It is where that may sound. But if you are relaxed in doing things like walking, it relaxes you
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being in nature. Actually, it changes your blood pressure. It changes everything about your body
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even 30 minutes a day. When you are more relaxed, it's not off putting. If you're a ball of tension,
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if you seem wound up and you seem like someone who's on the verge of something,
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when you speak to someone that comes through. Even if it's deep down inside you, if that's
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your internal state, girls especially can sniff that sort of thing out because they have more
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finely tuned social senses than men. You have two groups of people, a bunch of men and a bunch of
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women. The women are always going to do a better job at teasing out the hidden reefs. The things
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that are hidden, the motivations, whatever is going on, they're going to tend to do a better job
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because for them it's not rational. They're not thinking things through. They're intuiting
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those things. They're figuring it out just by raw instinct. When you're relaxed, especially if you
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go up to a girl and try to strike up a conversation, the hard thing is not caring if she cares.
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You see a girl, you want to talk to her. The fact that you talk to her is driven by the fact that
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you want to talk to her. Yet it can't come across that you want to talk to her. It's stupid and
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insane. The worst thing you can do is make her think you're wound up like, I got to talk to her.
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I hope she likes me. That's completely repellent. If you are relaxed to the point that she's like,
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I wonder if he even cares, even when you approached her, that is when she's going to find you more
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interesting. Again, it's counterintuitive. It's a pain in the butt, but it's how we're wired.
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God gave us resilience. Men are the tough ones when it comes to this stuff.
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Recently, it's a tragic trope that's come about as
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sex reassignment surgery. These especially girls who are trying to live as men
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freak out. They think, oh, it's easy mode because the whole culture tells them,
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oh, it's so much easier being a guy. Now they suddenly look like a guy enough to pass,
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and you know what happens? They become completely invisible. Some of them are actually driven to
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suicide, not even just by the fact that they're engaging in what we all know is destructive,
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but specifically the female to male. To suddenly realize how hard it is to be a man and to know
01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:17.160
you've effectively taken a one-way trip is overwhelming. The aloneness that a man naturally
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faces in the world is inconceivable to girls. They have no idea how hard it is to be us,
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and we just take it in stride because it's all we know. Again, back to not blackpilling or being
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a whiner or blaming them, you have to be resilient, even in the face of impossible odds.
01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:42.840
That sort of strength and relaxation, even when it seems like everything is burning and everything
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is lost or hopeless or whatever, when you can still be a happy warrior when you face
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impossible odds, suddenly you become charming by that degree. Suddenly you become someone that
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men want to be and women want to be with. That's really kind of just generically the advice,
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and it's particularly hard for young guys because you don't know who you are yet. You're still
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figuring that out, and so when we say things like don't let irony or sarcasm or something
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become your personality, it's precisely because if that's all you do, it's what you will become,
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and it's just not interesting. The nice thing about having hobbies and interests that have
01:55:27.400 --> 01:55:34.360
some general appeal is that another thing that girls in particular find very appealing is when
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a man has passion for something. Even if she's not interested in it, just the fact that you can be
01:55:39.400 --> 01:55:45.640
interested in something to a point is attractive. Now, if it becomes an obsession and it's your
01:55:45.640 --> 01:55:50.840
entire personality, then that's repulsive, and there's a lot of these things where it's like
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it's great up to a point, and then beyond that point, it becomes disgusting and repulsive.
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The reason that's a recurring theme is that that's really just how this stuff works,
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and nobody told me as a young man. I had to figure this crap out myself the hard way multiple times,
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and I made a lot of stupid and evil mistakes along the way, so romantically you look at my life and
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say, that's a complete failure. Fine. I'm done with that crap, and that's not me blackpilling,
01:56:23.320 --> 01:56:28.840
it's me realizing that having painted myself into a corner where I've personally screwed things up,
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and at my age, this is now what I focus on. I focus on trying to help other men and trying to
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help build a future for your children and for the world that I was born into and will leave
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nothing behind. That is my blessing from God. All the things that I've screwed up, all the mistakes
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that I've made along all these lines have given me the ability to do stuff that most guys can do.
01:56:56.840 --> 01:57:01.800
I think one of the reasons that a lot of guys appreciate the work that we do is that, frankly,
01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:07.000
Corey and I are able to say stuff publicly that most men still can't say, because they'll get
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docks and destroyed, and if you have a family or you want to have a family and you want to take
01:57:11.160 --> 01:57:15.560
care of your wife and kids, you probably can't say a lot of this stuff, especially some of the
01:57:15.560 --> 01:57:21.640
recent episodes we've done. We can say it, and it's particularly because of the fact that
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it's not the blessing of singleness, it's just, okay, this is where we are, here's what we're
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doing with it. I would never hold myself up as a model for anything. I want anyone to emulate me,
01:57:35.480 --> 01:57:40.200
but I would hope that as we try to share some of these lessons, some of which we've learned
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ourselves, and some of which are general knowledge that are in places like the manosphere that has
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a lot of terrible toxic stuff, I mean, it has just, once you realize how girls work, you go in one
01:57:52.440 --> 01:57:57.880
or two directions, and most guys go in the direction that most of that world pushes them,
01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:04.440
which is just rampant fornication, particularly if you have a low regard for girls. If you think
01:58:05.400 --> 01:58:09.880
they're all whores, I can't believe they're like this, I'm just going to have fun,
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I'm going to exploit those weaknesses and those mistakes. That's evil, but it's easy, and frankly,
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it's what most of the world that knows about this stuff says. There are not many Christians that
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both know it and have some aptitude for it who will also say, here's how this actually applies
01:58:27.400 --> 01:58:33.080
for Christians, because it does, because the exploitation of weaknesses in human nature
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that are used by evil men are the very things that shape all of our lives in one way or another.
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If you have a weakness or a proclivity, either you're going to keep it in check
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or it's going to run away with you, and that's why anchoring the stuff in scripture is important,
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is that above all else, we need to know that we are not our own, but we are bought with a price.
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God paid for us on the cross, and God gives us the Holy Spirit, living within us,
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and so that should preclude, when we focus on it, all these other mistakes. The sinful human
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flesh that's still here even in the sanctified man or woman has those desires, and God wants them
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to be fulfilled in a godly way. As we close out, trusting in those promises needs to be paramount,
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and then living a daily life of both repentance from our sinful inclinations and
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bettering ourselves in a godly fashion to make ourselves the sort of man that God wants us to
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be. God has a lot to say about a lot of these things. When we do those, we then have to trust
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that God will deliver on his promises and his time, and that's the ultimate source of relaxation.
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We can't be worked up about it and afraid that we're going to fail and God's not going to deliver.
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You do your part and trust God, and God will deliver on his promises. I don't know when.
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Not everyone will necessarily ever get a girlfriend and a wife, which is obviously the goal.
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Goal is not a girlfriend. The goal is a godly, faithful wife. Find someone for whom you can be
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a head, make yourself her head, and be a good head to be a faithful head, being the kind of head
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that she looks up to and admires and needs and trusts and turns to, because that is your role
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as a man, to be the sort of man who has his bearings, even when things are on fire and things
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are scary and they're weird and no one knows what's going on. If you can be relaxed and still say,
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I love you. I'm going to take care of you. I have this. There's nothing to worry about.
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That is the essence of marriage, where there's a sacrifice as God modeled,
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as Christ modeled for the church that doesn't involve you dying. You can sacrifice simply being
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the one who bears under the weight of all these pressures without cracking. You can do that by
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your own strength. It can only come from strength in faith in God and in the promises he's given us.
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And so I think we'll end with a reading from Matthew 6, The Words of Christ.
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I'm a little tempted to include a link in the show notes to a chicken stream as
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an object lesson, possibly in 4K, but we'll see if I include that or not. But Matthew 6,
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Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink,
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nor about your body what you will put on, is not life more than food and the body more than clothing.
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Look at the birds of the air. They neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly
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Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious
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can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing?
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Consider the lilies of the field how they grow. They neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you,
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even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so close the grass of the
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field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you,
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O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious saying, What shall we eat or what shall we drink
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or what shall we wear? For the heathens seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father
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knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness,
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and all these things will be added to you. Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow,
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for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
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00:00:13 – 00:00:20: Are you ready?
00:00:20 – 00:00:41: Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast. I am Corey J. Mahler.
00:00:41 – 00:00:47: And I'm still, whoa. On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing the plight of
00:00:47 – 00:00:52: young men in principally the United States, but really, I think everywhere in the Western
00:00:52 – 00:00:59: world, particularly young men who are unmarried. Some of what we say will have to do with married
00:00:59 – 00:01:04: men. Principally, this will be addressed to basically like guys, you know, 12 to 15 up
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00:01:09 – 00:01:15: who are facing some of the circumstances we're going to describe as a warning to fathers,
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00:01:28 – 00:01:31: it with younger children.
00:01:31 – 00:01:37: As we mentioned last week, we were also in the middle of an arc dealing with politics.
00:01:37 – 00:01:41: As we mentioned last week, we'll probably break some of those up just because of the
00:01:41 – 00:01:45: time commitment and, you know, we're recording on a Tuesday yesterday was Labor Day. So this
00:01:45 – 00:01:50: is one that didn't take as much prep because we know a lot of this off top of our heads.
00:01:50 – 00:01:57: This is however an episode that's a continuation of seven episodes that we've done in the recent
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00:02:16 – 00:02:20: That encouragement obviously is going to take the form, you know, as Christians that ultimately
00:02:20 – 00:02:25: you have to trust in God to deliver on his promises and to deliver the good things because
00:02:25 – 00:02:30: I think we should all have the sense that you can do everything right, do everything by
00:02:30 – 00:02:36: the book and things may still may not pan out. And it's very difficult, particularly
00:02:36 – 00:02:41: for a young man to see the state of the world and perhaps the state of his own dating life
00:02:41 – 00:02:48: and think, I just can't handle this anymore. And we don't want guys who are facing those
00:02:48 – 00:02:56: circumstances to listen to Job's wife's advice when she said curse God and die. That's not
00:02:56 – 00:03:02: the Christian response, obviously, we're going to encourage trust and confidence and God's
00:03:02 – 00:03:06: promises. But we're also here living and there's stuff for us to do. There's stuff for you
00:03:06 – 00:03:11: as young men to do. The groundwork, as I said, is laid in seven recent episodes. I'm just
00:03:11 – 00:03:15: going to name them to give you a pointer back to if this is one you happen to be listening
00:03:15 – 00:03:20: to first, they address different aspects of some of the things that we're just going to
00:03:20 – 00:03:25: assume are already part of your knowledge in this episode. The first of those is episode
00:03:25 – 00:03:30: 22 on women, scripture and ontology. And then the next episode 23 on feminism, that's where
00:03:30 – 00:03:35: we specifically deal with the question of what is a woman? What is a girl? How are they
00:03:35 – 00:03:41: different than men? Why are the two sexes fundamentally different? And that's the episode
00:03:41 – 00:03:46: two part series where we don't a great deal with headship and the importance of headship. So
00:03:47 – 00:03:52: that's obviously going to be implicit in this conversation, both for young men who are looking
00:03:52 – 00:03:58: to become heads of your own households, and also for fathers who have sons and daughters who
00:03:58 – 00:04:05: are going out into the world and facing this great unknown, horrifying unknown, man made
00:04:05 – 00:04:11: horrors beyond comprehension as we look at the state of the relations of men and women today.
00:04:12 – 00:04:17: Episode 26 on the fear of the Lord, that goes back to as I said, you know, we're trusting in
00:04:17 – 00:04:25: in God's promises. And ultimately, if we fear God, as he commands us to, we can't be afraid of
00:04:25 – 00:04:30: anything else. So that's one small element of this, but it's a really important one. And I'll
00:04:30 – 00:04:35: spoil the ending of this episode, we're going to end with Jesus speech in the Sermon on the
00:04:35 – 00:04:40: Mount, where he talks about the birds of the air and the beast of the field trusting and receiving
00:04:40 – 00:04:47: his promises and his gifts without anything. They don't know they just God takes care of them. And
00:04:47 – 00:04:53: God promises that if he takes care of, you know, birds and animals and insects, he's also going to
00:04:53 – 00:04:57: take care of you because he died for you on the cross. So I hope that will be the arc of this whole
00:04:57 – 00:05:04: episode as we go through these things. In episode 27, the listener feedback episode, the first one
00:05:04 – 00:05:09: that we've done, we'll probably do another one here pretty soon. We talked some about celibacy
00:05:09 – 00:05:13: versus chastity. That's going to be a discussion that we're going to rehash here again, because it's
00:05:13 – 00:05:19: been blowing up on the internet recently again. And it's one of the most fundamental aspects of
00:05:19 – 00:05:24: the struggle of a young man who's full of testosterone. He's surrounded by girls who are
00:05:24 – 00:05:31: half naked, because their fathers are fools and need to be beaten. And the difference between
00:05:31 – 00:05:36: chastity and celibacy is a vital one, because a lot of pastors are spreading a lot of absolute
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00:05:54 – 00:06:01: mentioned in episode nine, PaywallingGod, we never started this thing to get a dime. The only reason
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00:06:11 – 00:06:16: never made it a point at what we're doing. Recently, we've had a couple very sizable
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00:07:03 – 00:07:11: have given. And I want to acknowledge the fact that it goes to a broader subject that is another
00:07:11 – 00:07:17: topic in which we'll talk about in a little bit. When we act in the world, when we act in each
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00:08:14 – 00:08:18: we've said in a lot of episodes. That's fine. We're going to do this. We're going to obey God. And I
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00:09:28 – 00:09:32: page, not to solicit. But because about a month ago, I was mentioning to Corey, I happened to
00:09:32 – 00:09:38: look at it again, and it only had like three categories of monthly donations, and a couple of
00:09:38 – 00:09:42: were just absurdly large. And I said, that's stupid, no one should ever give that much money.
00:09:43 – 00:09:48: And so he went back through and took that as a challenge to basically turn it into kind of a
00:09:48 – 00:09:55: Bible Easter egg. If you've seen recently the ADL list of racist numbers between 1 and 100,
00:09:55 – 00:10:01: basically Corey turned it into kind of a mini Bible study where the donation tiers, most of them
00:10:01 – 00:10:06: are completely absurd, but they're Bible references. So that's more free entertainment if
00:10:06 – 00:10:10: you're a listener, and you want to be entertained additionally for free, like I said in the pay
00:10:10 – 00:10:16: walling episode. Everything we do is completely free because we're doing this because we think
00:10:16 – 00:10:22: God compels us, and we would never charge for something that we think God wants us to do. That
00:10:22 – 00:10:27: would be going completely opposite directions. So I mentioned the donation pages because it's
00:10:27 – 00:10:31: kind of entertaining. And if you want to test your Bible knowledge, I think you'll have fun
00:10:31 – 00:10:36: with some, just trying to figure out what those numbers have to do with what Bible verses. Corey
00:10:36 – 00:10:40: has tremendous knowledge of scripture a lot more than me. And it's just fun and entertaining. So
00:10:40 – 00:10:46: that'll be there. Since I mentioned, I also want to reiterate something I said in the listener
00:10:46 – 00:10:51: episode, which is, please don't give us money. If ever in the future, you are going to be offended
00:10:51 – 00:10:57: by something that we say, if we come after one of things that you were devoted to, and we call it
00:10:57 – 00:11:01: an idol, and we say we're going to smash it, which is one of the things that we're here to do. I
00:11:01 – 00:11:05: don't want to give offense. And then for someone to feel like all those guys, they were fraud,
00:11:05 – 00:11:11: and they ripped me off, please don't give money if you're going to be offended if we trash you. We
00:11:11 – 00:11:15: don't mean to trash you. We're trying to focus on what's true and what's false. If we think that
00:11:15 – 00:11:19: something's false that you happen to like, we're going to give it the same treatment that we've
00:11:19 – 00:11:24: given all the other things you like. So if in the future, you would be horribly offended, if we
00:11:24 – 00:11:30: said something that you found disparaging, please don't give us any money, because I don't want
00:11:31 – 00:11:39: you to feel like we ripped you off. I never would have felt that way. Next episode in the arc that
00:11:39 – 00:11:45: I mentioned, 28, Sweat the Small Stuff. That's one where we talk a little bit about things that we
00:11:45 – 00:11:52: can do in our churches and communities to kind of rebuild a Christian society, because we are so
00:11:52 – 00:11:58: far gone. We're so many generations of now away from anything that could remotely look like a
00:11:58 – 00:12:03: Christian society that we got to start somewhere. And so in that episode, we talked a little bit
00:12:03 – 00:12:09: about things like job boards in your congregation. Not only should you be worshiping with those
00:12:09 – 00:12:13: folks every week, but you should be trying to hire them, or you should be working for them. You
00:12:13 – 00:12:19: should have commerce with your brothers in Christ, preferentially. That's something that has always
00:12:19 – 00:12:24: been the case, and they should continue to be so. So that also, we'll talk about today specifically,
00:12:24 – 00:12:30: that also includes finding a maid. Not necessarily go to church to find a girl at church, because you
00:12:30 – 00:12:35: may not find them, especially in a lot of conservative congregations. Sometimes it's all old
00:12:35 – 00:12:40: people, but you know what? Those old people have daughters and granddaughters. Maybe asking them
00:12:40 – 00:12:46: is going to help. So we'll talk about that in this episode. In 29 episode on the generational divide,
00:12:46 – 00:12:51: we specifically talk about the fact that young guys are today in a position where a lot of guys
00:12:51 – 00:12:57: are age and older, are probably going to give you incredibly stupid advice, because things have
00:12:57 – 00:13:05: changed so much even in 5, 10, 15, let alone 30 or 40 years, that when some boomer says pull yourself
00:13:05 – 00:13:11: up by your brute straps, we talked about how idiotic that is on its face. It's the literal opposite of
00:13:11 – 00:13:17: what the original intent of that expression was. You as a young man, if you're listening to us,
00:13:17 – 00:13:22: you're in a position where you have to weigh all these things that all these old guys are telling
00:13:22 – 00:13:26: you, and some of it will be true. Most of it's going to be garbage, and it's all going to sound the
00:13:26 – 00:13:30: same to you, and you're not going to have any frame of reference. So that's an episode we talk
00:13:30 – 00:13:36: a little bit about how sometimes respecting your elders is limited to loving them and
00:13:37 – 00:13:43: according to dignity, but disregarding some of their completely retarded advice in a loving way.
00:13:43 – 00:13:48: Don't pick fights, but if they're saying something idiotic, don't listen, because it's your life that
00:13:48 – 00:13:53: you'll screw up if you follow the wrong path. And the same applies to us. I'm in my mid-40s,
00:13:53 – 00:13:59: Corey's in his mid-30s. We're older guys to some of you. There are things that we don't know. We
00:13:59 – 00:14:05: mentioned in one of the episodes, we talked to a lot of guys in their early 20s and late teens,
00:14:05 – 00:14:11: and we would say stupid things if we weren't talking to guys your age, because it's stuff I
00:14:11 – 00:14:15: would never imagine. I can never imagine how bad it is for you. And the last I was talking,
00:14:15 – 00:14:19: you guys were telling me. So we're going to talk a little bit today about some of those things,
00:14:19 – 00:14:26: but we also referenced in that episode what to do when you're getting mixed advice from people.
00:14:27 – 00:14:33: And last one, talking about living with past mistakes in episode 30 against the Clockwork
00:14:33 – 00:14:39: universe. We talked about some of the damage that's done by sexual promiscuity, particularly
00:14:39 – 00:14:43: against girls. So those are all subjects that we're not going to get into today because they're
00:14:43 – 00:14:48: dealt with previously. Today, we're going to try to give some concrete specific advice. Again,
00:14:48 – 00:14:53: we're older guys. I'm divorced, Corey's single. If you think that makes us retarded and not worth
00:14:53 – 00:15:00: listening to, okay, I'm not going to argue with you. We have made mistakes. If we tell you things,
00:15:00 – 00:15:05: they're going to cause you to repeat our mistakes. That would be malicious and foolhardy. Guys who
00:15:05 – 00:15:10: screw things up can also give you at least some narrow advice about, here's how not to make the
00:15:10 – 00:15:17: same mistakes that I did. Neither Russ or Fathers. So I am really uncomfortable with the notion of
00:15:17 – 00:15:23: giving any fatherly advice. So as I mentioned, the secondary audience for this episode is Fathers.
00:15:23 – 00:15:28: I'm not going to give you father to father advice because I have not. I'm not a dad. I have no skin
00:15:28 – 00:15:34: in the game in terms of making mistakes and screwing up kids. What I can do is tell you what
00:15:34 – 00:15:39: some of these younger guys are facing, and then you as a father of a son or a daughter will have
00:15:39 – 00:15:45: to figure out amongst yourselves, how do I prevent my children from going down a path that's going
00:15:45 – 00:15:51: to fall into some of these traps or cause some of these problems for others? So we're going to try
00:15:51 – 00:15:58: to stay in our line. That's important to me. We're not know it all despite the way we sometimes
00:15:58 – 00:16:03: come across. We try to stick to what we know and what we can speak to faithfully. There'll be a
00:16:03 – 00:16:08: lot of scripture in this, and it's also just giving me a lot of straight advice. But I hope that
00:16:08 – 00:16:12: this episode, which I've got 15 minutes into an introduction, I hope the young guys who are
00:16:12 – 00:16:18: listening will come away from this, having a little bit more confidence and having some idea of
00:16:19 – 00:16:23: what they can avoid and what they should try to do, but ultimately knowing that we have to trust
00:16:23 – 00:16:27: in God for all this stuff. Because you don't know if you're going to wake up tomorrow, forget
00:16:27 – 00:16:30: whether you're going to find a wife. You don't know if the son's going to come up tomorrow. You
00:16:30 – 00:16:35: don't know if your heart's going to beat tomorrow. You trust in God to deliver on his promises,
00:16:35 – 00:16:41: and he'll take care of the rest. And so for all the advice that you'll ever get from anyone,
00:16:41 – 00:16:44: that is why you have to have your confidence. And having confidence rooted in God
00:16:45 – 00:16:50: makes it possible to engage boldly in the world without feeling like you have to get everything
00:16:50 – 00:16:54: just right. Because if the onus is always on you to get everything just right, you know that's
00:16:54 – 00:17:00: hopeless. That's a well that no one can dig himself out of. If you trust in God and know that
00:17:00 – 00:17:06: obeying him will be fruitful, that's half the battle. And the rest of it is prayer and doing
00:17:06 – 00:17:12: the time and putting in the work and waiting for God to deliver. And in the meantime, living your
00:17:12 – 00:17:19: life as a man. So to start off the episode proper, we should probably go over some of the
00:17:20 – 00:17:26: reasons that young men in particular have it so hard today, why there are so many problems
00:17:26 – 00:17:35: for young men specifically. And part of this is we'll start with the dating market, as it were,
00:17:36 – 00:17:44: with the marriage market. Given the current set of incentives and the way that our society is
00:17:44 – 00:17:51: structured, it is structured against most men. Yes, there is that top percentage to
00:17:52 – 00:17:59: kind of abuse the terms, but they're the men who are very successful in the current market.
00:18:01 – 00:18:05: And that is a tiny percentage of men. And the reason for that is very simple.
00:18:06 – 00:18:17: Women want to have, to some degree, security and to some degree, stability. But there is another
00:18:17 – 00:18:25: aspect to their nature, we went over this somewhat in previous episodes. But if the opportunity is
00:18:25 – 00:18:33: there, women are going to go after some of these higher status men. And the reason they'll do that
00:18:33 – 00:18:40: under the current circumstances is because our society and particularly our government has been
00:18:40 – 00:18:47: designed in order to encourage that, because the goal is to delay or to destroy family formation,
00:18:47 – 00:18:54: we live under an evil government. We've covered that previously and proved that point in so far as
00:18:54 – 00:19:02: we're concerned. But traditionally, it is the father and then the husband who provides that
00:19:02 – 00:19:09: stable environment for a woman where she is safe and can raise a family. That is the natural order
00:19:09 – 00:19:15: of things. That is how things are supposed to go. Well, today the government has stepped into a
00:19:15 – 00:19:24: certain degree to act as the husband for single women. And so the necessity of forming that
00:19:24 – 00:19:31: family bond, of maintaining a family bond, first with regard to the father being the most natural
00:19:31 – 00:19:37: family bond, because he's your father, if you're his daughter, and then with your husband, with whom
00:19:37 – 00:19:44: you will form your own family, the government has stepped into a certain degree and said, no, if you
00:19:44 – 00:19:52: are living alone, that's fine. We have all of these social services, we have these various programs of
00:19:52 – 00:19:58: which you can take advantage, etc., etc. This creates a perverse set of incentives and that is
00:19:58 – 00:20:06: deliberate. Because on the one hand, it maintains women as part of the working class. So it is
00:20:07 – 00:20:12: beneficial in terms of capitalism, in terms of the market, you have more workers, you can drive
00:20:12 – 00:20:17: down wages, etc. But more importantly, and this is obviously Satan's overarching goal,
00:20:18 – 00:20:25: it makes it incredibly difficult to form families. Because women, when they are younger and more
00:20:25 – 00:20:30: vulnerable, and more easily misled, and that's obviously just true. Yes, men, when they're
00:20:30 – 00:20:38: younger, are also more easily misled, but women are more easily misled than men. That's in scripture,
00:20:38 – 00:20:45: that's just the way God made men and women. But women, when they are young and easily misled,
00:20:46 – 00:20:52: they can be told by the culture, by the state, no, you should take advantage of your youth,
00:20:52 – 00:20:58: and you should do these things that you really shouldn't do. But the problem is, by the time
00:20:58 – 00:21:03: they realize the error they have made, well, they're now in their mid-30s, or their 40s.
00:21:05 – 00:21:10: Women have a biological clock that men really do not. Yes, men have one to a certain degree. If you
00:21:10 – 00:21:15: have your first child when you're 60, you're going to have a lot of problems that you would
00:21:15 – 00:21:21: not have if you had had your first child when you were 30. So for men, yes, you can marry later,
00:21:21 – 00:21:28: you can have children later. You shouldn't do it too late. But for women, that's not an option.
00:21:28 – 00:21:32: Because women have a fertility window. There's only a set number of years,
00:21:32 – 00:21:37: 15, 20 years, depending on the woman, wherein you can actually have children.
00:21:38 – 00:21:45: All Satan has to do is get women to squander that period, and he's won. Because that destroys
00:21:45 – 00:21:50: family formation, it destroys the next generation, and as we've covered in previous episodes,
00:21:50 – 00:21:57: that is primarily how Christendom propagates. It propagates from father to son, from father to
00:21:57 – 00:22:02: daughter, from father to his children, because he is the head of the household,
00:22:02 – 00:22:04: he is the head of his children, he's the head of his wife as well,
00:22:05 – 00:22:13: and he instills in them the Christian faith. Christianity is not primarily a matter
00:22:13 – 00:22:18: of going out and proselytizing and bringing in new converts. Yes, that's part of it, and at
00:22:18 – 00:22:23: certain points in history that has been a more important part of it. But that was not God's
00:22:23 – 00:22:29: design. God's original design was that Adam would teach his sons and daughters,
00:22:29 – 00:22:33: and then his sons and daughters would teach their sons and daughters in perpetuity,
00:22:34 – 00:22:39: and that is how it was in Christendom, once Christianity returned to Europe,
00:22:40 – 00:22:43: for a thousand years, for more than a thousand years.
00:22:45 – 00:22:50: It is only today that that has fallen away, because we're quite frankly just having fewer
00:22:50 – 00:22:56: children, and these are the reasons that's happening. But now to speak directly to fathers,
00:22:56 – 00:23:02: now we're not going to give, as we said, specific parenting advice, although I'm
00:23:02 – 00:23:06: a little more comfortable giving some, I've done a fair amount of work in psychology.
00:23:07 – 00:23:11: I know some will think that that's probably the antithesis of knowing how to deal with children,
00:23:11 – 00:23:16: but it depends on what you read and which conclusions you draw. But to give some
00:23:16 – 00:23:21: actual concrete advice for fathers, this is the same advice we've been giving all along,
00:23:21 – 00:23:28: do not send your daughters to college. Period. That's a blanket recommendation,
00:23:29 – 00:23:36: and the reason not to do that is very simple. The odds are that she is going to do extremely
00:23:36 – 00:23:44: unwise things while she is away from your roof. And this is not a matter of trusting your daughter
00:23:44 – 00:23:51: or not trusting your daughter. This is a matter of being a father, realizing that God has given
00:23:51 – 00:23:58: you a position of headship. It is your duty to oversee what she does. You cannot do that
00:23:58 – 00:24:03: when she's away at college. And so what is she when she's away at college? She's headless.
00:24:05 – 00:24:11: Headless things do not make good decisions. That is simply the nature of reality.
00:24:12 – 00:24:18: And so a verse should come to mind. Leviticus, do not profane your daughter by making her a
00:24:18 – 00:24:23: prostitute, lest the land fall into prostitution and the land become full of depravity.
00:24:24 – 00:24:29: When you send your daughter away to college, and I do mean emphasis on away because it is
00:24:29 – 00:24:34: particularly a problem when you send her away to college, a residential college. There's a
00:24:34 – 00:24:38: difference if she takes a few classes at a community college, comes home at night, lives under your
00:24:38 – 00:24:45: roof. But if you send her away to a residential college, you are effectively telling her go be
00:24:45 – 00:24:53: a prostitute. Now she may not. You may win the odds. But don't play those odds. God did not call
00:24:53 – 00:24:58: you to roll the dice when it comes to your children. You are called to be a father and a head. You are
00:24:58 – 00:25:04: called to raise them correctly. And this is part of the reason that young men are having such a
00:25:04 – 00:25:12: hard time finding marriageable women. Because once a woman has gone to college and been promiscuous,
00:25:13 – 00:25:19: in many cases she is no longer fit to be a wife. Because as we went over in previous episodes,
00:25:19 – 00:25:25: there are very real consequences to that behavior. And becoming a Christian again,
00:25:25 – 00:25:29: if you apostatized while you were in college and you come back to Christ, becoming a Christian again
00:25:29 – 00:25:36: does not remove those temporal consequences. It removes the eternal consequences. So you don't
00:25:36 – 00:25:43: necessarily go to hell because you were a whore in undergrad. But there are very real consequences.
00:25:43 – 00:25:48: You won't be able to pair bond as well, if at all. You will have children that will have genetic
00:25:48 – 00:25:53: issues that they would not otherwise have had, etc. etc. There are many problems attendant that.
00:25:53 – 00:25:59: And so we recognize these are the problems that young men are facing. Because they're
00:25:59 – 00:26:06: facing a marriage market in which there are many women who are simply not marriageable anymore.
00:26:07 – 00:26:11: And so one of the recommendations that we would make for the young men out there,
00:26:12 – 00:26:17: don't look for women at college. That's not going to be a good place to find them.
00:26:18 – 00:26:22: Look for a woman who has a good enough relationship with her father
00:26:22 – 00:26:27: that she didn't go to college. That her father knew to recommend to her that that was not a wise
00:26:27 – 00:26:33: decision, really ever, but particularly under present circumstances. There are many places
00:26:33 – 00:26:40: where you can find women who are marriage material. They still exist. You may be to speak
00:26:40 – 00:26:45: directly to the young men. You may be discouraged because of what you've seen of the world. And
00:26:45 – 00:26:49: to some degree that's rational. The world has a lot of problems right now.
00:26:51 – 00:26:55: And women, you need to understand the nature of women. Women are going to reflect the society
00:26:55 – 00:27:03: more directly than men are. Because that is how God made women. Women start to become like and
00:27:03 – 00:27:09: to reflect their head. And a woman who is not living under her father's roof or her husband's
00:27:09 – 00:27:15: roof is going to reflect her head. And her head is going to be the state. She is going to reflect
00:27:16 – 00:27:19: the current state of society. And that is what we see today.
00:27:21 – 00:27:26: And I'm sure that there are a lot of guys listening right now, particularly fathers who are thinking,
00:27:26 – 00:27:30: well, I know about a good Christian college where that's not going to happen. BS,
00:27:31 – 00:27:35: it's a matter of degrees. And this is part of the reason why I said at the beginning,
00:27:36 – 00:27:41: your knowledge of college is utterly worthless. It's completely worthless. You think you know
00:27:41 – 00:27:46: something about college, you know nothing. You are completely ignorant. And anything that you
00:27:46 – 00:27:52: would ever say to a man 15, 20 years younger than you is garbage. Don't even think about doing it
00:27:52 – 00:27:58: because you're wrong. The degree of depravity in these places, I don't know the frequency with
00:27:58 – 00:28:02: which it's doubling. It's certainly more than every five years. But the notion that someone who
00:28:02 – 00:28:09: is in college 25, 30 years ago has a clue what's going on today is it's wicked. I'm telling you
00:28:09 – 00:28:14: right now, don't tell anyone, oh no, it's going to be fine. And I include the Christian colleges,
00:28:14 – 00:28:19: isn't that? Three things will happen if you send girls off to college. They will become whores,
00:28:19 – 00:28:24: they will become witches, and they will apostatize. I know that sounds completely overblown and over
00:28:24 – 00:28:28: the top. I'm sure some of you are just laughing at me right now. By degrees, all those things will
00:28:28 – 00:28:34: happen. Because as Corey said, girls need a head. We talked about I think in the Feminism episode
00:28:34 – 00:28:41: about the fact that the marriage ceremony where the father gives his daughter's hand to the groom.
00:28:43 – 00:28:46: Not only is it a transfer of title, it's a transfer of headship.
00:28:47 – 00:28:53: It is saying the father who was the head of this girl is now making this man her head.
00:28:54 – 00:29:00: She has to have a head. When you send her away, she doesn't have a head. I don't want to abuse the
00:29:00 – 00:29:07: term literally, but this is more than a metaphor here. This is a functional spiritual real thing,
00:29:07 – 00:29:12: and there's no work around. And there is no in loco parentis when you have a Christian college.
00:29:12 – 00:29:17: Because I'll tell you what, the people who are teaching in those places have themselves all
00:29:17 – 00:29:21: gone to colleges that are being corrupted. All the things you hear people complaining about
00:29:21 – 00:29:29: politically, socioeconomically, sociopolitically, any way you want to cut it, the institutions for
00:29:29 – 00:29:34: learning are diseased. Frankly, the very fact that there would be a co-ed college is by itself an
00:29:34 – 00:29:40: indication that you're dealing with a wicked place. You would never, ever in a million years,
00:29:40 – 00:29:44: throw a bunch of horny teenage boys and girls in one place and think, oh, they're fine. I
00:29:44 – 00:29:50: catechize them. They'll turn out just fine. That's insane. That is being the worst possible father.
00:29:51 – 00:29:59: So, again, we're saying stuff that seems extreme and it seems absurd. I'll put my credibility
00:29:59 – 00:30:04: on the line. We're not going far enough. We're not going to describe the things that we know
00:30:04 – 00:30:08: are going on because we'd have to put an explicit warning on this thing. And some of you would
00:30:08 – 00:30:14: probably just turn it off and never listen again. The stories about what happens are unconscionable.
00:30:15 – 00:30:22: They're worse than anything that we have until you go back to the dawn of recorded history
00:30:22 – 00:30:30: and talking about Greek and Roman-level pagan practices that today are cultural. They're normal.
00:30:30 – 00:30:39: They're things that go on. And witchcraft, same deal. I went, girls, the notion of spiritual but
00:30:39 – 00:30:46: not religious, that is basically the expression of how girls view religion. A girl without a head
00:30:46 – 00:30:51: saying, you are going to be Christian. She may hang on for a time. I'm not saying that they're not
00:30:51 – 00:30:55: capable of having faith or maintaining faith. I'm saying that their faith will be put to the test
00:30:55 – 00:31:04: in a way that men can't understand. We don't have the social necessity to get our bearings from other
00:31:04 – 00:31:09: people. That's not the case with girls. They fundamentally get their bearings from what the
00:31:09 – 00:31:15: group is doing. And so when the group is influenced by any degree by something negative,
00:31:15 – 00:31:20: it's naturally going to nudge a girl much more than a guy. Now, obviously, we all know the guys
00:31:20 – 00:31:27: can fall into peer pressure, but it's much more of a binary decision. Guys say, do something stupid
00:31:27 – 00:31:31: and other guys say, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. I'll take that dare. Or they just
00:31:31 – 00:31:37: say, no, I want no part of this scene. Guys can make that sort of a decision and walk away from a
00:31:37 – 00:31:41: group or just tell the group, I want nothing to do with this. If you guys are going to do this,
00:31:41 – 00:31:49: I'm going to bounce. Girls virtually never had that kind of fortitude. And it's endemic to their
00:31:49 – 00:31:53: nature. It's not a question of weak character. I'm not trying to suggest if you have a really
00:31:53 – 00:31:58: tough girl, she's going to be fine. We're fundamentally different. The sexes are different
00:31:58 – 00:32:03: that the couple episodes we did on women is specifically dealing with the fact that we're
00:32:03 – 00:32:10: not the same stuff. And so the problems that girls will face are in some ways fundamentally
00:32:10 – 00:32:15: different from the problems that men will face. And for the young guys, as Corey said, who are
00:32:15 – 00:32:22: looking for marriageable material, forget whether she's attractive or whatever degree of intelligence
00:32:22 – 00:32:28: you find appealing. Something that we mentioned before that blew up online a few years ago
00:32:28 – 00:32:34: was a controversy around debt free virgins without tattoos. Debt free means she doesn't have a
00:32:34 – 00:32:40: negative dowry. If you send her off to college, you're almost certainly putting her in debt.
00:32:40 – 00:32:45: That debt is functionally a negative dowry. You're saying to her husband, he's going,
00:32:45 – 00:32:50: her future husband, you're going to have to pay off this five or six figure debt before you can
00:32:50 – 00:32:55: even break even on taking my daughter out from under my wing. And guys do that without a second
00:32:55 – 00:33:01: thought. That's evil. That's completely evil. A negative dowry is the most maniacal thing imaginable.
00:33:01 – 00:33:07: Apart from the rest, forget the sexual promiscuity or any of the rest. Just saddling her with debt
00:33:08 – 00:33:14: so that she can go learn something that's probably useless in most cases. I mean, when you look at
00:33:14 – 00:33:20: the degrees that girls are completing relative to men, it's mostly blow off garbage. It's just
00:33:21 – 00:33:26: stuff that shouldn't even be higher education. It's a joke. And yet, they are just getting
00:33:26 – 00:33:33: saddled with debt that is not dischargeable in bankruptcy, is going to completely disrupt future
00:33:33 – 00:33:40: family formation in any guy with any sense. This is the advice to young men. Think long and hard
00:33:40 – 00:33:47: about even dating a girl who has much college debt. If it's 5,000, 10,000, that's one thing.
00:33:47 – 00:33:53: It's usually not. It's usually closer to six figures. So you should write them off. I'll say
00:33:53 – 00:33:57: flat out and I think Corey agrees. You should write a girl off if she's six figures in debt
00:33:57 – 00:34:03: without hesitation. Because Corey said she has an idiot father. She has clearly no judgment.
00:34:03 – 00:34:08: And she has a boat anchor around her neck. And you want to attach that to your future family? No.
00:34:09 – 00:34:13: You have a choice as a young man. You're trying to filter and winnow things down.
00:34:13 – 00:34:18: That's an easy place to start. Virgins, we talked about that in past episodes. It's
00:34:18 – 00:34:22: virtually a lost cause. And frankly, one of the things that goes into
00:34:24 – 00:34:30: a young man trying to find a girl who has been sexually chased is she's going to have to be
00:34:30 – 00:34:35: younger in a lot of cases. So we'll talk in a little bit about talking to fathers instead of
00:34:35 – 00:34:43: talking to daughters to meet their daughters. And we referenced the episode around job boards
00:34:43 – 00:34:48: at church. I think we're going to need to see arranged marriages come back for a while.
00:34:49 – 00:34:55: Now, on the subject of younger marriages and disparate marriages, guys who are knowledgeable
00:34:55 – 00:35:01: about particularly American history will know that in the 16, 17, 1800s, I think marriages were
00:35:01 – 00:35:07: typically like 22, 23, 24 range, depending on the culture and whatever. Those were fundamentally
00:35:07 – 00:35:11: Christian cultures where the girls were living under their parents' roof. So you cannot compare
00:35:11 – 00:35:17: it to today because the single number of age is not communicating the same thing in 2023
00:35:17 – 00:35:25: that it communicated in 1723. It's just not. The 16-year-old girl, the 18-year-old girl,
00:35:25 – 00:35:31: the 23-year-old girl, that is the march of time where they have been under continuous influence
00:35:31 – 00:35:36: from a wicked society, encouraging them to give up their virginity and then to go further and
00:35:36 – 00:35:46: further and further in frequency, depravity, and profligacy of their sexual misconduct. And
00:35:47 – 00:35:52: they'll do it because it's fun and everyone else is doing it. And again, they want to fit in.
00:35:52 – 00:35:55: Who wants to be a prude? Who wants to be the girl who's on the outs with the group?
00:35:56 – 00:36:02: And even in a Christian college, this stuff still happens. Maybe parents still hear about it,
00:36:02 – 00:36:07: but I promise you I've heard about it. I've heard names of children, of pastors, doing this stuff.
00:36:09 – 00:36:13: It's not the point. The point is you can't just trust, but you baptize the kid and cataclysm
00:36:13 – 00:36:17: that they're not going to misbehave when they get away from you.
00:36:17 – 00:36:25: So what do we do? Simple thing. Don't send her to college. Don't sell her with debt.
00:36:25 – 00:36:30: Don't give her into an environment where she's likely to engage in sexual promiscuity.
00:36:31 – 00:36:37: And for young men, one of the things that they said, Corey and I talk a lot to younger guys in
00:36:37 – 00:36:46: 18, 22, 23 range all the time. And most of them are trying not to despair about this stuff.
00:36:47 – 00:36:52: They have a stiff upper lip and they're trying to do the right things. And they are trying to
00:36:52 – 00:36:57: trust in God. And one of the reasons that we're doing this episode is to encourage that and also
00:36:57 – 00:37:01: to encourage the guys who are not, they're just not seeing it. They're not seeing any hope.
00:37:02 – 00:37:08: For fathers with daughters, these guys exist. And if you have a 16, 17, 18 year old daughter
00:37:08 – 00:37:12: who is looking at going off to college, not only don't send her off to college,
00:37:13 – 00:37:18: but at least have open in your mind the prospect that maybe you should be a participant,
00:37:18 – 00:37:25: not completely. I'm not saying, we're not suggesting I'm going to hand a man to a girl and say,
00:37:25 – 00:37:32: here you go. This is a 100% arranged marriage. We're saying that matchmaking, historically,
00:37:32 – 00:37:38: was a family function. It was a parental function. It wasn't a social thing where you just send these
00:37:38 – 00:37:46: headless kids off when they're at their maximum sexual energy and desire and minimum ability to
00:37:46 – 00:37:51: comprehend or appreciate future consequences for their actions, where they don't have impulse
00:37:51 – 00:37:56: control to the degree that they will when they're 10 years older. You don't send them off and then
00:37:56 – 00:38:03: expect everything to work out, hunky dory. So fathers, if you're listening, at least consider
00:38:05 – 00:38:09: working somehow. And again, we don't know how that's going to manifest. Just we want people to
00:38:09 – 00:38:14: begin thinking about just like job boards and churches, you should be thinking about finding
00:38:15 – 00:38:21: pairs for your sons and daughters. The ideal best case for some sort of
00:38:22 – 00:38:28: arranged marriage sounds so formal. It's really more about introduction and encouragement.
00:38:29 – 00:38:36: When every child has two choices, there are basically four permutations. Either you have
00:38:36 – 00:38:44: good parents and you obey them or you rebel or you have bad parents and you obey them in being bad
00:38:44 – 00:38:50: or you rebel and act good. So there are two good outcomes and there are two bad outcomes
00:38:50 – 00:38:54: and they're reversed depending on the quality of parent you have. If you're a good parent,
00:38:55 – 00:38:59: you want to encourage good behavior in your sons and daughters. And some of that's going to be
00:39:00 – 00:39:04: supporting them, not just sending them loose, not just saying, yeah, good luck, get out of here.
00:39:04 – 00:39:09: I've put up with you for 18 years. I'm going to pay off some of your debt for college and then
00:39:09 – 00:39:14: I'm going to go buy a boat and focus on spending more time on vacation. That's what the boomers
00:39:14 – 00:39:19: did to a lot of people. That's the model that we've inherited. And part of the generations
00:39:19 – 00:39:23: episode is talking about the fact that there are no good models for this stuff. So when Cory and
00:39:23 – 00:39:28: I talk about things like even mentioning arranged marriages and not sending kids off, especially
00:39:28 – 00:39:32: sending girls, I don't think anyone should go to college. I think no more than 15% of the male
00:39:32 – 00:39:37: population should ever set foot in college and today I think should drop to zero for probably a
00:39:37 – 00:39:42: generation, at least until those places no longer exist and we've started from scratch.
00:39:43 – 00:39:50: Either way, there's no model for what we're encouraging because the world is so evil and so
00:39:50 – 00:39:54: far gone that of course you're not going to find a model for this stuff. So it's going to sound
00:39:54 – 00:39:59: crazy and weird and crazy and weird. Everyone thinks, well, that's impractical. That can't
00:39:59 – 00:40:05: possibly work. Well, it worked for centuries. It worked for most of human history. It didn't
00:40:05 – 00:40:10: stop working. We stopped doing it and that's the distinction here. It's not that these things that
00:40:10 – 00:40:17: we used to do quit working and we somehow evolved into a more erudite society. It's we just quit
00:40:17 – 00:40:23: trying. We quit caring. Parents quit caring. They started setting their kids free and now we're
00:40:23 – 00:40:28: living in the ashes of those poor decisions. Trying to sweep up these ashes and build something
00:40:28 – 00:40:33: again is going to involve at least for maybe a generation or two doing some stuff that we haven't
00:40:33 – 00:40:38: done in a long time. And so I'm very encouraged that I know there's some young men who are listening
00:40:38 – 00:40:44: to this who specifically talked to fathers and said, I'd like to date your daughter or do you
00:40:44 – 00:40:53: have any daughters? It sounds like such an antiquated kind of... There's no TV example for it unless
00:40:53 – 00:41:00: you go back to the 1800s like a cowboy story or something. It sounds absurd because the models
00:41:00 – 00:41:05: were taken away from us, but it's an entirely salutary thing. It's not the only possible option,
00:41:05 – 00:41:10: but in a world on fire, it's potentially an option that should certainly be explored.
00:41:12 – 00:41:17: In a very real sense, many of these problems are a form of antinomianism.
00:41:17 – 00:41:25: And I mean that in a specific way. What we are in essence doing is ignoring nature. We're saying,
00:41:25 – 00:41:31: well, we're Christian. And so these problems that are inherent in human nature are no longer
00:41:31 – 00:41:39: a problem for us because we're Christian. And that's not true. It's not true in the sense of
00:41:39 – 00:41:44: nature as God intended it. And so when you become a Christian, you still have to eat and drink.
00:41:45 – 00:41:50: You still get thirsty. You still get tired. You are still a creature. You are still an animal, in
00:41:50 – 00:41:58: fact. And so these demands of your physical nature are not removed by faith. That would be
00:41:58 – 00:42:04: insane. That is to say, that would be to say that faith destroys ontology, that it destroys
00:42:04 – 00:42:10: nature. It doesn't do that. If your theology destroys ontology, your theology is wrong.
00:42:11 – 00:42:18: But then there's also the other sense where people are rejecting the fact that we live
00:42:18 – 00:42:23: in a fallen world. They're saying, if you become Christian, then it doesn't matter that you live
00:42:23 – 00:42:28: in a fallen world. No, it still matters very much because there are still temptations. There are
00:42:28 – 00:42:33: still problems. You will still encounter these things in your daily life because you live in a
00:42:33 – 00:42:40: fallen world and you are still fallen. And so, yes, your daughter may be a very good person.
00:42:41 – 00:42:48: She may be able to recite the entire Catechism. She knows chunks of scripture by heart.
00:42:49 – 00:42:53: She attends church every Sunday. She sings in the choir, all of these things.
00:42:54 – 00:43:01: If you ignore the nature of women, you ignore the nature of girls, you ignore the fallen nature
00:43:01 – 00:43:07: of humanity, and you send her off to a place where she is going to be surrounded by temptations and
00:43:07 – 00:43:15: pressures, odds are she'll eventually crack. And you are responsible for that. And as well mentioned,
00:43:15 – 00:43:21: one of the first things that you can notice about a supposed Christian college, if it's co-ed,
00:43:21 – 00:43:27: it's not Christian. Period. That's the end of it. It may be Christian in many other ways. It may
00:43:27 – 00:43:32: have a chapel. It may have required attendance. All these things that you see at Christian colleges,
00:43:32 – 00:43:38: and for the record I went to one for one semester, but I did attend one. Just because it is Christian
00:43:38 – 00:43:45: in name does not mean that it is Christian in practice. If it's co-ed, it has already proven to
00:43:45 – 00:43:52: you that it rejects the fallen nature of man and seeks simply to ignore it. And by doing so creates
00:43:52 – 00:43:58: immense occasion for temptation. And what does Scripture say about creating the occasion for
00:43:58 – 00:44:08: temptation? Temptation must come, but woe to those by whom it comes. Do not be the one upon whom
00:44:09 – 00:44:18: Christ upon whom the word of God is pronouncing woe. And speaking of woe, he said that women who go
00:44:18 – 00:44:26: away to college become whores, witches, and apostates. I want to focus on that for a second,
00:44:26 – 00:44:30: because some, as he mentioned, may think that that's an extreme position,
00:44:30 – 00:44:34: may think that that's unreasonable, they think, of course they aren't going to do that. Well,
00:44:34 – 00:44:42: here's the problem. If they become whores, they necessarily, in our society as it stands today,
00:44:42 – 00:44:48: become the other two. And why is that? The answer is abortion. Now, I have a
00:44:49 – 00:44:53: short podcast episode of my own podcast that did about abortion. I'll link that in the show notes,
00:44:53 – 00:44:57: because it goes over this in more depth. But to go over it briefly here,
00:44:59 – 00:45:07: you cannot have a society in which you have rampant promiscuity if pregnancy is still a very
00:45:07 – 00:45:14: real, let's call it a risk, with every sexual encounter, which, in the state of nature,
00:45:15 – 00:45:21: without what we have today, various devices and chemicals and such, that's just the way it is
00:45:21 – 00:45:30: for women. Every sexual encounter risks pregnancy. That is, in fact, part of what keeps women chaste.
00:45:30 – 00:45:35: It's that thing in the back of their mind telling them, if you do this dumb thing,
00:45:35 – 00:45:42: there may be very real consequences that you cannot hide. Historically, that has helped to
00:45:42 – 00:45:45: keep women chaste. That has helped to keep marriages stable. That has helped to keep
00:45:45 – 00:45:53: society stable. But now we have prophylactics and we have so-called birth control. The problem is
00:45:55 – 00:45:59: hormonal birth control, which is the one that women primarily use. Yes, it has a lot of
00:45:59 – 00:46:04: negative environmental consequences and such, but that aside,
00:46:05 – 00:46:13: hormonal birth control is abortifacient because it works in several ways. The first way it works is
00:46:13 – 00:46:19: by attempting to regulate the woman's cycle so that she will not be fertile except during a
00:46:19 – 00:46:25: certain window so she can manage things and not get pregnant. The second is that it makes
00:46:26 – 00:46:33: her vagina and her internal anatomy inhospitable to spurn, so less likely for fertilization to
00:46:33 – 00:46:39: take place. But the third method, and this one is the most morally objectionable, the others are
00:46:40 – 00:46:45: problematic in their own way to a lesser degree. The third method is that it makes the lining of
00:46:45 – 00:46:53: the uterus inhospitable to the implantation of the zygote. Now, for those who are far removed
00:46:53 – 00:47:01: from biology, the zygote is just the fertilized embryo. That's a human life, according to
00:47:01 – 00:47:05: Christian theology, which is to say it is a human life because it is according to God.
00:47:06 – 00:47:13: And so if you change the chemistry or the hormones the way the uterine lining reacts
00:47:13 – 00:47:21: with the zygote and cause implantation to fail, you've just caused an abortion. That's murder.
00:47:22 – 00:47:28: And so women who are on birth control and having sex are guilty of murder,
00:47:29 – 00:47:34: and so are the men who are having sex with them incidentally. And so there's your problem.
00:47:35 – 00:47:41: If the women go off to college and become whores, they are almost certainly going
00:47:41 – 00:47:47: to be on birth control. Well, now they're also murderous, which is to say witches,
00:47:47 – 00:47:53: which is to say apostates. So that is not actually an extreme thing to say. That is just
00:47:53 – 00:47:57: exactly what happens if you actually follow through the logic of what is being done.
00:47:58 – 00:48:04: And Satan knows this. Satan knows exactly what he's doing. Your daughters may not know it,
00:48:04 – 00:48:08: and they probably don't, because their health class probably did not cover that very simple
00:48:08 – 00:48:13: biology I just went over in the space of five minutes. But this is something people don't know.
00:48:13 – 00:48:22: I actually just yesterday asked chat GPT, the AI chat platform, just to see if it had been
00:48:22 – 00:48:27: trained on this question. I asked it a handful of questions, a series of questions about abortion.
00:48:27 – 00:48:34: Eventually I was able to get it to admit that hormonal birth control is abortifacient. But
00:48:34 – 00:48:39: initially it gave false answers. It had been trained to lie, because of course it is a tool
00:48:40 – 00:48:45: of the current ruling class of the order of our society. And so on these sorts of questions,
00:48:45 – 00:48:50: it's trained to lie to you. Well, that's what your daughters are hearing in school. It's what
00:48:50 – 00:48:56: your sons are hearing in school. If you ask most young people, they will not know that birth
00:48:56 – 00:49:03: control is abortifacient. They will not know that it is murder to use it. At least murder to use it
00:49:03 – 00:49:12: while you're sexually active. And so that is what they get introduced into. And so they become
00:49:12 – 00:49:15: complicit in these heinous sins before they even know what they're doing.
00:49:18 – 00:49:24: And the advice that's coming from doctors is not only false, but one of the worst things that's
00:49:24 – 00:49:29: happening on the secondary effects of the pill is that doctors are encouraging usually mothers,
00:49:29 – 00:49:35: because it's not the husband or the father who's taking his daughter for a gynecological check-up
00:49:35 – 00:49:40: after she's had her first period. The gyno will say, oh, you need to get on birth control. It'll
00:49:40 – 00:49:46: help regulate your flow. You're going to have much more comfortable periods. It's going to just make
00:49:46 – 00:49:51: your life a whole lot better. So from the age of 12 or 13 or maybe even younger, many, many,
00:49:51 – 00:49:56: many girls are being put on these drugs that alter your body in some ways permanently,
00:49:56 – 00:50:01: because it effectively tricks the young girl's body into thinking she's been pregnant.
00:50:01 – 00:50:06: And so you go on the pill when you're 13 and you don't go off the pill until you're 33.
00:50:06 – 00:50:11: Guess what? Not only has your fertility plummeted via virtue of your age, but it's also been
00:50:11 – 00:50:20: decimated by your body's hormones being tricked into a condition that results in provable harm.
00:50:21 – 00:50:26: And so again, since we're trying to focus primarily on advice to young men, young men,
00:50:27 – 00:50:32: one of the things that you should look for, I'm not going to say it's an absolute no, but
00:50:34 – 00:50:40: best case, you would have a wife who had never been on birth control. As I said,
00:50:40 – 00:50:44: like so many doctors are saying that now, that's like, it may be close to finding a unicorn.
00:50:45 – 00:50:51: If she's an adult, like if she's 18, if she's a young adult, she shouldn't be,
00:50:51 – 00:50:57: like, because Corey said that then goes not only to the false promises that they're making
00:50:57 – 00:51:02: about your period, but they go to the direct promises of, oh, you can fornicate and not get
00:51:02 – 00:51:09: pregnant. Additionally, there's harm to a girl having been on the pill. Some of that harm is
00:51:09 – 00:51:15: mitigated over time. So it's not a death sentence. It's better for a virgin to have been on the pill
00:51:15 – 00:51:20: and come off it after a few years than frankly, someone who's not a virgin who is never on the
00:51:20 – 00:51:26: pill who's been promiscuous before you meet her. In a perfect world, you would find both.
00:51:26 – 00:51:32: 100 years ago, it would have been almost a given. So again, we're dealing with a circumstance where,
00:51:32 – 00:51:38: as Corey was saying, like the deck is getting stacked against young men on virtually every
00:51:38 – 00:51:43: count here, and we're not trying to set up some impossible goal where there's only one girl in
00:51:43 – 00:51:49: 10,000 that can possibly meet all these criteria. Most of these are not going to be hard and fast
00:51:49 – 00:51:54: rules, but you, as a young man, should know that the longer and the more severely any of these
00:51:54 – 00:52:01: things go on, the less suitable a wife she's going to be beyond any control of herself,
00:52:01 – 00:52:05: beyond any question about being forgiven by Jesus. This is not, as we said in a couple of
00:52:06 – 00:52:10: other episodes, as Corey said earlier, has nothing to do with forgiveness. This damage,
00:52:10 – 00:52:17: this temporal consequences for sin is real, and much of it is immutable. It's like if you're a
00:52:17 – 00:52:24: smoker for 20 years, and you smoke 10 packs a day, and then you quit, your lungs will slowly heal,
00:52:24 – 00:52:29: but they'll never go completely back to normal. So yes, after 20 years, is it better to quit smoking
00:52:30 – 00:52:35: than to continue smoking? Absolutely. Is it better for your lungs if you never smoked at all?
00:52:35 – 00:52:44: Obviously. So we're talking about just being aware, first of all. Again, I don't want to give
00:52:44 – 00:52:49: impossible circumstances, because by the time we get done describing all these things, there may be
00:52:50 – 00:52:56: one girl in 50,000 that meets them all, and that's not, that would cause despair. We absolutely do
00:52:56 – 00:53:02: not want young guys to despair. What we want is for you to have the best opportunity to find girls
00:53:02 – 00:53:07: who are the most likely to be good wives, and we'll get into here in a minute in some of the
00:53:07 – 00:53:14: scriptural descriptions of what a good wife is like, but there's stuff that scripture doesn't
00:53:14 – 00:53:20: talk about because it didn't exist, because it was so horrifically evil that it took technology.
00:53:20 – 00:53:25: Basically, it took demons putting this crap in the hands of humans before some of these modern
00:53:25 – 00:53:29: things took off. So you as a young man need to, you know, and you as fathers who are listening,
00:53:30 – 00:53:35: keep your daughters away from this crap, all of it. Don't put them in debt. Don't let them be put
00:53:35 – 00:53:40: on the pill. And this is one of those things where just like daughters can now have abortions
00:53:40 – 00:53:45: without their, without parental consent, stuff like the pill is happening too. In fact, I don't
00:53:45 – 00:53:50: know what the state of, I believe that the pill was just taken off the prescription. I mean,
00:53:50 – 00:53:56: it will be possible to buy it if it's not already in stores over the counter. That's a nightmare
00:53:56 – 00:54:01: for all these reasons. Like it's, it's the reason that it went over the counter despite all the
00:54:01 – 00:54:09: serious health risks is that the health risks are the point, the causing abortions, the destroying
00:54:09 – 00:54:16: the future fertility, the messing up pair bonding, which is another critical part. A girl who has a
00:54:16 – 00:54:22: natural cycle has fundamentally different taste in men than a girl who's on the pill. Most people
00:54:22 – 00:54:27: don't know that. Most girls don't know that your tasting guys changes when you go off the pill.
00:54:28 – 00:54:32: You will be repelled by some of the very things you find attractive, depending on whether or not
00:54:32 – 00:54:38: you're on the pill. When you're on the pill and your body thinks you're pregnant, you're more
00:54:38 – 00:54:44: attracted to nurturing, you're less attracted to brash, and there's a lot more to it. But basically,
00:54:45 – 00:54:51: it sort of narrows down and weakens the range of men that you find appealing. And this is a vicious
00:54:51 – 00:54:57: feedback cycle where men are then conditioned by their wives or their girlfriends on the pill
00:54:58 – 00:55:04: to be weaker than they maybe naturally would be. And then when, you know, 10 years into your marriage,
00:55:04 – 00:55:08: you finally decide, okay, you know, we're getting into our mid 30s, maybe it's time to have our first
00:55:08 – 00:55:13: kid. She goes off the pill. And two months later, she's going to divorce you because she finds you
00:55:13 – 00:55:19: repellent. This actually happens. It is a, it's a horrific risk. It's real. We may find some, some
00:55:19 – 00:55:24: links and show notes for this. Take my word for it or not. This stuff actually happens. These,
00:55:24 – 00:55:31: these chemicals fundamentally alter human beings. And so when it's your wife, who's pregnant, and
00:55:31 – 00:55:35: all these things are happening naturally, it's a blessing from God, it's fine. You're there,
00:55:35 – 00:55:40: you're nurturing, you're taking care of her. And if she's in a really weird mood, and you've got to
00:55:40 – 00:55:45: just manage that gently, that is the blessing of a husband and wife living a life together.
00:55:45 – 00:55:49: It's completely different when it's been chemically altered and you introduce
00:55:50 – 00:55:54: not being in marriage and all these other things that just, they tear apart the very thing that
00:55:54 – 00:56:01: God was trying to form. And so for fathers, don't let it happen for sons. Be aware of it. Again,
00:56:01 – 00:56:05: we're not saying right off any girl. If you can find a girl that's never been on the pill that
00:56:05 – 00:56:11: isn't in debt, doesn't have any tattoos. The reason tattoos come up is there's a very strong
00:56:11 – 00:56:16: element of self-loathing in a lot of this. For a girl, there's a lot of self-loathing
00:56:16 – 00:56:22: in acting out sexually. And it's, again, it's a vicious cycle where she does something that she
00:56:22 – 00:56:29: knows she didn't, shouldn't do. She then regrets it. And to justify having done in the first place
00:56:29 – 00:56:36: and to try to, try to assuage the guilt, she'll go do more to sort of double down and say, well,
00:56:36 – 00:56:40: I can't have been wrong if I keep doing even more of it. And it sounds stupid, but that's a
00:56:40 – 00:56:45: sort of rationalization that goes on in people. That's not particular to girls, but when it particularly
00:56:45 – 00:56:54: comes to sexual activity outside of marriage, it's very common in tattoos and drugs and binge
00:56:54 – 00:57:00: drinking. All these things are self-destructive. So something like tattoos are a good landmark.
00:57:00 – 00:57:04: Again, we're not making an absolute moral pronouncement, although I do think it's,
00:57:04 – 00:57:08: I think it's sinful, but principally because it's born of self-loathing.
00:57:09 – 00:57:14: You see pictures of so many pretty young girls today. They're, they have perfect beautiful skin,
00:57:14 – 00:57:19: they're incredibly attractive, and they're covered in doodles. They have these permanent,
00:57:19 – 00:57:24: idiotic tattoos, not even art. They've just been, they've used their bodies like graffiti.
00:57:25 – 00:57:31: And it's just, it shows that they're headless. It shows that they have bad fathers. It shows,
00:57:31 – 00:57:35: or no fathers at all. It shows they have no good relationship with their father,
00:57:35 – 00:57:39: and that they hate themselves to some degree. And that sort of self-loathing,
00:57:41 – 00:57:46: again, it's a vicious, mutually reinforcing cycle where the more you do things that hurt
00:57:46 – 00:57:51: yourself, the more you want to hurt yourself for punishing yourself for having done the thing in
00:57:51 – 00:57:56: the first place. And it's why we see so much self-destruction in the world today. And then,
00:57:57 – 00:58:04: you know, maybe they sober up when they're in their 30, 35, 40, and they say, well, where are all the
00:58:04 – 00:58:09: good men? Well, all the good men are looking for a girl who hasn't been destroying herself for 25 years.
00:58:10 – 00:58:15: Before we move on to the, the scripture, and then I guess finish up the episode with maybe some
00:58:15 – 00:58:20: practical recommendations. And yes, I do recognize that I started to give a practical recommendation
00:58:20 – 00:58:25: a little while ago and did not complete that. That is because we're going to do that at the
00:58:25 – 00:58:32: end of the episode. But there's a blunt point, and I do mean blunt point that I wish to make here.
00:58:33 – 00:58:39: As a man, one of the things that you are doing in a marriage, at least one of the things that you
00:58:39 – 00:58:48: should be doing in a marriage, is you are buying a womb. And the reason I word it that way is
00:58:48 – 00:58:57: because yes, marriage is a transfer of title in a sense. It is the father transferring title to
00:58:57 – 00:59:05: the daughter to the husband. But in addition, I say you're buying a womb because that is the only
00:59:05 – 00:59:12: way you can build a family. You cannot have children if your wife is infertile. Of course,
00:59:12 – 00:59:17: you can't have children if you're infertile either. And so for those of you who need to hear it, lay
00:59:17 – 00:59:26: off the marijuana. But as was mentioned earlier, there is a fertility window for women. If she
00:59:26 – 00:59:33: is outside that window, if she is aged out of being fertile, you cannot build a family with her
00:59:33 – 00:59:38: because she cannot have children. Unless, of course, God happens to bless her in her old age,
00:59:38 – 00:59:44: but chances are you're not going to be Sarah having children at that late stage in life.
00:59:45 – 00:59:52: And so for the men out there, as a simple short practical recommendation before we get to the
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other ones later on, marry younger. That has been historically normal. It varies in time and place,
01:00:01 – 01:00:09: as was mentioned earlier, but it is entirely fine to marry younger. Your goal, assuming you are a
01:00:09 – 01:00:16: good, upstanding Christian man, your goal is to build a family with this woman. If she needs to be
01:00:16 – 01:00:22: 10 years younger than you to do that, so be it. And before we continue, I want to make one thing
01:00:22 – 01:00:29: clear. Again, we've used language like buying a womb and transfer of title. And those are specific,
01:00:29 – 01:00:33: mechanical things about what's going on. I don't want anyone, particularly young guys,
01:00:33 – 01:00:38: who are trying to figure this stuff out. And you hear a lot of strident, crazy talk on the internet.
01:00:38 – 01:00:43: None of this is intended to dehumanize the girl that you want to marry. This is a person,
01:00:43 – 01:00:47: is a human being that you're going to spend every day of the rest of your life with.
01:00:47 – 01:00:53: She better be a good person. She better be kind and gentle and loving and someone you want to be
01:00:53 – 01:00:59: around. That's a human being. That's not a womb with legs. That's not something that you've just
01:00:59 – 01:01:08: gotten a title to. That's not property. That becomes a part of your own body. So the specific reason
01:01:08 – 01:01:13: that Corey and I will narrowly speak in those terms, A, it runs completely countered everything
01:01:13 – 01:01:19: everyone else is saying, but it is in fact true. But that doesn't mean that it's the whole picture.
01:01:19 – 01:01:23: We don't think it's a whole picture. It's not even remotely the whole picture, but it's a necessary
01:01:23 – 01:01:31: part of it. As Corey said, if the purpose of marriage is to procreate, which incidentally is
01:01:31 – 01:01:41: what God said in Genesis 9, to Noah, Adam and Noah got the same message, and then it's reinforced
01:01:41 – 01:01:48: again in the New Testament, procreation is one of the gifts that God gives us. That's a man and a
01:01:48 – 01:01:55: woman becoming one flesh. The problems come in socially because the one flesh thing is a lot
01:01:55 – 01:02:02: of fun, and all these technological so-called advancements let us have the fun without having
01:02:02 – 01:02:07: the rest of our lives part of it, which God intended and which God builds into it. So
01:02:08 – 01:02:13: if you're a young guy and there's a lot of people on the Internet say a lot of really baddy, weird
01:02:13 – 01:02:18: stuff, and frankly, one of the reasons we want to do hope, we hope will be an encouraging episode to
01:02:18 – 01:02:23: you, is because one of the things I see a lot of young guys struggling with, particularly when
01:02:23 – 01:02:29: they're starting to figure out just how bad things are, is they become completely blackpilled
01:02:29 – 01:02:35: and completely hateful towards the state of girls, to the point that they attribute that directly
01:02:35 – 01:02:42: to just hating girls. And there's a whole subculture that sees that basically as a personality,
01:02:42 – 01:02:47: that's somehow hating and dehumanizing girls and calling them horrible names,
01:02:47 – 01:02:56: is how they express their existence as guys. We don't think that, and we condemn those who do
01:02:56 – 01:03:01: because it's destructive. It's every bit as destructive to these girls as all the other
01:03:01 – 01:03:06: things that are going on that in some cases may, frankly, merit some of the name-calling.
01:03:06 – 01:03:12: It is a man's job to rise above the state of the world and to try to do things that are right,
01:03:12 – 01:03:19: even when things are messed up. And the wisdom involved is figuring out what can I live with,
01:03:19 – 01:03:25: where do I draw the line, and how do I conduct myself in a godly manner, in one that's going to,
01:03:25 – 01:03:30: as Corey said, build a family. That's the point. You're not just loving one person. It's not just,
01:03:30 – 01:03:35: oh, she's cute, and I want to get with her. You're going to spend the rest of your life with her
01:03:36 – 01:03:41: because she's a person. She's a charming, attractive person that you want to have with
01:03:41 – 01:03:49: you. And by your side, for all the attraction and all the flame early on, this is a companion who's
01:03:49 – 01:03:55: going to be with you the rest of your life. And it's something that goes into mate choice up front,
01:03:55 – 01:04:01: but then it pays dividends for the rest of your life. And as we get into some of the other
01:04:01 – 01:04:06: practical stuff, I just want to mention that a lot of this is downstream from a girl's relationship
01:04:06 – 01:04:13: with her father. The advice that I give to young guys, to mirror what Corey said, don't be shy about
01:04:13 – 01:04:21: her being younger if you're avoiding some of these pitfalls. Not that it's necessarily the only
01:04:21 – 01:04:27: correct solution, but if the only way you can find a girl who hasn't had sex with 20 guys or 10,
01:04:29 – 01:04:33: wherever you want to draw the line, ideally, it should be zero. Her relationship with her
01:04:33 – 01:04:39: father is going to be reflective of the relationship she will have with you. And that's
01:04:39 – 01:04:44: something else you're buying. We talk about a mechanical transactional thing. The relationship
01:04:44 – 01:04:49: that she has with her dad is going to mirror the relationship that she has with you. She's
01:04:49 – 01:04:55: rebellious if she loathes headship, if she has it all figured out on her own, she's never going to be a
01:04:55 – 01:05:02: good wife ever by any measure. She's never going to be a good wife because her dad screwed her up.
01:05:02 – 01:05:09: You can't fix that. You can try, but you're going to fail because the only model she's ever had
01:05:09 – 01:05:17: has been the sort of model that's going to finally tear you apart. No. Before no-fault
01:05:17 – 01:05:21: divorce and some of these other things, maybe you could bear it out and maybe you could bring
01:05:21 – 01:05:26: her around. But today, when you have literally no recourse for someone who decides that she wants to
01:05:26 – 01:05:31: be a harpy or some other terrible thing, you're just out of luck. You're going to lose half your
01:05:31 – 01:05:37: stuff and she's going to go on and you may be stuck paying her for the rest of your life for
01:05:37 – 01:05:44: a bad relationship. That's not a reason not to get married, but it's very much a reason
01:05:44 – 01:05:51: to focus on finding a good girl going into it. So being kind, being loving, being wholesome,
01:05:51 – 01:05:57: just generic stuff, pretty, frankly not too hot. The hottest girl in the world that you've ever
01:05:57 – 01:06:04: seen has had attention from so many guys that she's going to be mad. She's going to have become
01:06:04 – 01:06:09: completely insane because no one can possibly cope with having that much positive attention.
01:06:09 – 01:06:15: Find a girl who's pretty that you like. Maybe find a girl who's neglected that most guys don't see
01:06:15 – 01:06:21: something in her that you see. That girl is going to love you a great deal more. One of the
01:06:21 – 01:06:25: remarkable things about a girl loving you is that when she looks at you with that sort of love,
01:06:25 – 01:06:30: her face transforms and she literally becomes more beautiful when she looks at you. Maybe no one
01:06:30 – 01:06:38: else ever sees it, but you see it all the time. That is a very real thing. It's one of the things
01:06:38 – 01:06:42: that I think guys, like I said, we talked to a lot of young guys. I don't think they're being
01:06:42 – 01:06:48: super picky about it. I only want the hottest girl, but you want her to be attractive. It's
01:06:48 – 01:06:55: crucial. You have to be attracted to the girl and beauty is a big part of that, but inner beauty
01:06:55 – 01:07:01: is a real thing too because she's a human being. She's a person and so this transactional stuff,
01:07:01 – 01:07:07: it's very specific and narrow. It's not remotely the whole context of your relationship or your
01:07:07 – 01:07:12: marriage. That is two people becoming one in spending your lives together.
01:07:13 – 01:07:18: To emphasize what was said about the nature of women, I'm reminded of
01:07:20 – 01:07:26: something I said in episode 22 when we were also talking about women. That was our episode
01:07:26 – 01:07:33: on women more properly. I pointed out and I think this is worth just reiterating here
01:07:33 – 01:07:36: instead of just telling you to go back and listen to that episode.
01:07:36 – 01:07:44: I pointed out that in the garden, Adam walked with God. Adam knew God face to face. Adam
01:07:45 – 01:07:50: talked with God and yet God still said it is not good for man to be alone.
01:07:51 – 01:07:58: Woman is the greatest blessing next to, of course, salvation as I also mentioned in the
01:07:58 – 01:08:02: previous episode, but of course, Adam did not need salvation at that point.
01:08:03 – 01:08:10: Woman is the greatest gift God has ever made for man and that is true for every man
01:08:11 – 01:08:18: with regard to his wife and it is important to keep sight of that, not to lose sight of that.
01:08:20 – 01:08:24: Even if we mentioned the problems we have today and yes, we're in a fallen world
01:08:24 – 01:08:32: and woman has a rebellious streak, that's part of her curse and really it's a curse that falls on
01:08:32 – 01:08:38: the man, but that's a separate topic for another time. Even though we live in a fallen world,
01:08:38 – 01:08:43: she is still one of the greatest blessings God can give you and Scripture is very clear on that
01:08:43 – 01:08:50: and I think that leads in nicely to talking about Scripture and so to start off, I would
01:08:51 – 01:09:00: begin with Proverbs. Perhaps Proverbs 18 to start, he who finds a wife finds a good thing
01:09:00 – 01:09:06: and obtains favor from the Lord, but perhaps even more than that verse Proverbs 19,
01:09:07 – 01:09:13: house and wealth are inherited from fathers, but a prudent wife is from the Lord.
01:09:14 – 01:09:21: Scripture is very clear that a good wife is a gift from God. Yes, there are of course things that
01:09:21 – 01:09:26: society can do to improve your odds of finding a wife, there are things fathers can do to raise
01:09:26 – 01:09:35: daughters to be good wives, etc. However, ultimately that blessing is from God, as are all blessings.
01:09:35 – 01:09:41: God uses human beings and the creation as his tools to deliver blessings to you,
01:09:42 – 01:09:48: but ultimately those blessings are from God and Scripture here, very clear, a good wife,
01:09:49 – 01:09:59: is a great blessing from God. Of course, we can also turn to Ecclesiastes and this emphasizes,
01:09:59 – 01:10:02: and really we were echoing this point, but it emphasizes the point we were making about
01:10:04 – 01:10:10: how you should go through life if God gives you a wife and so Ecclesiastes 9,
01:10:10 – 01:10:16: enjoy life with the wife whom you love all the days of your life that he has given you under the sun,
01:10:16 – 01:10:21: because that is your portion in life and is your toil at which you toil under the sun.
01:10:23 – 01:10:28: I think as we look at the scriptural admonitions for what a good little wife looks like,
01:10:28 – 01:10:34: it's basic and it's obvious, but I think maybe we don't necessarily test ourselves, particularly
01:10:34 – 01:10:39: before marriage, you know, when there's a young man or young woman just trying to figure out
01:10:40 – 01:10:46: who do I want. These passages are not just about, okay, once I'm married, this is how I ought to
01:10:46 – 01:10:55: behave. Some of these things are qualitative about the person themselves. Can you as a girl,
01:10:55 – 01:11:02: can you as a young man live up to these things? Have you lived yourself your life in such a
01:11:02 – 01:11:08: wooden fashion that you can deliver on these expectations from God? And if you're on a path
01:11:08 – 01:11:13: where you are perhaps disrupting some of the things that make it possible for you to deliver
01:11:13 – 01:11:19: on what God expects, amend your ways now, because it's not just about cleaning up your act once
01:11:19 – 01:11:28: you get married. That's frankly one of the biggest tropes today that girls live wild. They do
01:11:29 – 01:11:35: unspeakable things with insane numbers of men, and then they decide to settle down,
01:11:35 – 01:11:40: and then they decide to be the good girl. And so effectively, the one man who's actually willing
01:11:40 – 01:11:48: to give her a chance is settling for the leftovers of 50 guys who came before. And
01:11:49 – 01:11:54: she feels it, even if he doesn't know it, and if he ever finds out he's destroyed by it,
01:11:54 – 01:12:01: either directly destroyed by the realization in his own disgust, and then the situation of
01:12:02 – 01:12:08: being in a marriage with a woman who has done these things, or he destroys himself as a man by
01:12:08 – 01:12:13: effectively accepting that sort of behavior and saying, oh, well, I guess I love you anyway,
01:12:13 – 01:12:20: and that's what I've got. There's no fixing those situations. And that's one of the reasons that
01:12:21 – 01:12:25: God speaks to this directly. In 1 Corinthians 6, he says,
01:12:26 – 01:12:31: the body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
01:12:31 – 01:12:36: And God raised the Lord, and will also raise us up by his power. Do you not know that your
01:12:36 – 01:12:41: bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a
01:12:41 – 01:12:47: prostitute? Never. Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her?
01:12:47 – 01:12:52: For it is written, the two become one flesh, but he who is joined to the Lord becomes one
01:12:52 – 01:12:59: spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits outside of the body,
01:12:59 – 01:13:04: but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body
01:13:04 – 01:13:09: is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own for your
01:13:09 – 01:13:19: bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. Now, the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the
01:13:19 – 01:13:25: Holy Spirit is one that's fundamentally about choosing to drive out the Holy Spirit. And
01:13:27 – 01:13:33: I think that this passage goes directly to one of the paths that can lead to that. If your body
01:13:33 – 01:13:38: is a temple for the Holy Spirit, which is true, there's no if about it, if you're a Christian.
01:13:39 – 01:13:45: And you continuously sin in ways that you know or sin and you do them anyway, because you want
01:13:46 – 01:13:52: the upsides and you don't fear the downsides. Either you think God wasn't serious, or you'll
01:13:52 – 01:13:58: make up for that next Sunday, or you're just not going to think about it. Eventually you will drive
01:13:58 – 01:14:03: out the Holy Spirit. If you make your body a temple for fornication, that is what it will become.
01:14:04 – 01:14:11: And God in numerous places says that he gives people over to their lusts. If you want to say,
01:14:11 – 01:14:17: I don't want God, I want this other thing instead, something that was created by God as a gift within
01:14:17 – 01:14:22: the boundaries that he established. If we say, no, I'm going to steal that for myself, I'm going to
01:14:22 – 01:14:30: do what I want with it, use it the way I want it. You're in danger in your soul. And as Corey said
01:14:30 – 01:14:34: earlier, a lot of this is about antinomianism, because people think, you know, I don't want
01:14:34 – 01:14:38: to judge people, I'm just going to let that slide. I can do a little bit and it's fine.
01:14:41 – 01:14:47: You're going in one direction or the other. And I want to mention just briefly here,
01:14:47 – 01:14:52: targeting back to what we discussed in the Listener Feedback episode about chastity versus
01:14:53 – 01:15:00: celibacy. If you're a young man and you wonder, maybe I'm just celibate,
01:15:01 – 01:15:06: celibate means that if a completely naked beautiful girl walks up to you and she has a
01:15:06 – 01:15:14: big smile and she asks you some question, if your response, your sole response is to be annoyed with
01:15:14 – 01:15:20: her for behaving in such a way and you send her away. And when she walks away, you don't even
01:15:20 – 01:15:25: glance up to check her out, then you're celibate. That's pretty much the threshold for celibacy,
01:15:25 – 01:15:33: that I don't care, I don't want anything to do with sex, period. Everyone else is trying to be
01:15:33 – 01:15:44: chaste. This passage is talking about chastity. Someone who is celibate doesn't need to flee
01:15:44 – 01:15:49: sexual immorality because they're not capable of sexual immorality. If you're celibate,
01:15:50 – 01:15:55: there's none of it for you. It's a gift from God that's so incredibly rare as we said in
01:15:55 – 01:16:02: episode 22. You don't know anybody. It's not you. It's conceivable. It's a gift from God that exists
01:16:02 – 01:16:09: in some cases, but it's so rare that you shouldn't take it seriously as a thing. And the reason that's
01:16:09 – 01:16:19: important is that for everyone else, chastity is a duty. It's a duty to God to preserve the bounds
01:16:19 – 01:16:28: of this gift within the scope for which God gave it. When you remove sex from the boundaries of
01:16:28 – 01:16:36: marriage, you are unchaste. That's what it means. Chastity has to do with refraining from that,
01:16:36 – 01:16:42: which is outside what's given to you. Young men particularly struggle with chastity because,
01:16:42 – 01:16:47: as I said earlier, you're surrounded by girls who are sexually promiscuous, who
01:16:48 – 01:16:53: visually display their sexual availability by dressing in ways that would have gotten people
01:16:53 – 01:16:59: arrested even 20 years ago. Today, it's basically just normal. That's a nightmare for any young man
01:16:59 – 01:17:06: who's full of testosterone, which incidentally leads directly to sexual desire. The hormone is
01:17:06 – 01:17:12: there for that purpose, as Corey said earlier in one of the On Women episodes. One of the metabolites
01:17:12 – 01:17:18: for girls drinking alcohol is testosterone. They get hornier when they drink. It doesn't
01:17:18 – 01:17:27: happen that way with guys. We are naturally sexually amped up by virtue of being men,
01:17:27 – 01:17:33: and chastity is confining that to your wife. If you don't have a wife, then you just try as best
01:17:33 – 01:17:37: you can to turn it off. You don't put yourself in situations where you're going to be tempted,
01:17:37 – 01:17:43: and if there is temptation, you flee from it. As many passages in scripture say, you do what Joseph
01:17:43 – 01:17:49: did with Potiphar's wife. He tried to seduce her. She fled. It was a sure thing. I'm sure she was
01:17:49 – 01:17:55: beautiful. She was wealthy. She was ready to go, and Joseph fled because it was wicked, and he was
01:17:55 – 01:18:03: faithful to God. That's chastity. Incidentally, it wasn't celibacy. Joseph wasn't celibate. He was
01:18:03 – 01:18:07: obeying God by fleeing temptation because he was tempted. There would not have been temptation
01:18:07 – 01:18:14: if he were celibate. Don't let pastors try to box you into a corner where they say,
01:18:14 – 01:18:20: oh, right now you're blessed with a gift of singleness. That's not a gift. That is a temporary
01:18:20 – 01:18:26: condition, and you pray to God to send you a godly wife, as he has promised he intends for all men.
01:18:27 – 01:18:33: When that day arrives, then chastity is set aside, and you love your wife. You love only her,
01:18:33 – 01:18:42: and you love her completely, and she loves you. It's an if-then situation. It's not me,
01:18:43 – 01:18:49: and then maybe later I'll turn it on. That's not the case. Be chased when you're young.
01:18:49 – 01:18:55: Be chased when you're unmarried, and when you're married, stop being chased, as God says, except
01:18:55 – 01:19:00: for a time by mutual agreement. Otherwise, you need to continue to maintain that one flesh union,
01:19:00 – 01:19:07: because it is absolutely a part of maintaining your marriage. A marriage is maintained. It's not
01:19:08 – 01:19:13: a flag that gets set on you, like something gets put on your driver's license, an endorsement.
01:19:14 – 01:19:19: A marriage is sustained by the activity within the marriage, the conduct you have with each other,
01:19:19 – 01:19:25: the way you treat each other, and part of that is the opposite of chastity. The gift is given to
01:19:25 – 01:19:32: you by God, and you're expected to use it, and if one part of you or the other ceases to the
01:19:32 – 01:19:38: marriage will wither, it will absolutely be harmed by your failure to love your spouse as you were
01:19:38 – 01:19:45: intended to. Scripture is very clear on that point. Neither the wife nor the husband is entitled
01:19:45 – 01:19:52: to withhold sex from the other. Extremely clear that that is not something that you are permitted
01:19:52 – 01:19:59: to do, except, of course, by agreement for a period of time for reasons of self-control or prayer.
01:20:00 – 01:20:08: But I think this is a good point to emphasize something that is going to come up in the mind of
01:20:08 – 01:20:14: some of the particularly younger male listeners, and that is the problem of pornography. Now,
01:20:14 – 01:20:20: I wrote a short piece on that. I'll link it in the show notes, but I want to hit on some of the
01:20:21 – 01:20:24: but I want to hit on some of the points of that here.
01:20:26 – 01:20:31: You shouldn't fall into despair if you have that habitual sin.
01:20:32 – 01:20:38: So long as you regret having fallen into that sin again and wish to do better,
01:20:38 – 01:20:43: because if you regret that sin and wish to do better, that's repentance.
01:20:44 – 01:20:51: Just because you fall into a habitual sin does not mean that you have given yourself over to a
01:20:51 – 01:20:57: reprobate mind or you've fallen away or any of these other things. Don't give in to despair.
01:20:57 – 01:21:02: That is what Satan wants you to do. Satan is that little voice telling you,
01:21:03 – 01:21:08: well, you gave in again. You'll never kick this habit. You may as well just not care.
01:21:09 – 01:21:16: If you give in completely, that is when it becomes the problem of driving out the Holy Spirit.
01:21:18 – 01:21:23: If you fall into these, particularly this kind of habitual sin as a young man,
01:21:25 – 01:21:29: try to do better. Look for ways that you can suppress the temptation,
01:21:30 – 01:21:36: but as long as you have that repentance, you have that regret, you have that desire to turn away
01:21:36 – 01:21:43: from the sin and back toward God. That is the mark of a Christian. That is the work of the law
01:21:43 – 01:21:48: turning you away from your sin and back to God. That is things functioning
01:21:48 – 01:21:52: not exactly as they should, because obviously ideally you wouldn't fall into the sin,
01:21:52 – 01:21:58: but it is things in light of your fallen nature and having fallen into that sin functioning as
01:21:58 – 01:22:04: best they can. And so I do recommend for all the young men and for other listeners as well
01:22:04 – 01:22:09: to go and read that piece. I think that I make a number of important points in that piece about
01:22:09 – 01:22:16: the reality of this particular topic given current circumstances in our culture at large.
01:22:18 – 01:22:25: I think one important thing to address here is that this is fundamentally a question of
01:22:25 – 01:22:32: desires that are properly ordered versus desires that are disordered. It is absolutely properly
01:22:32 – 01:22:38: ordered for you to desire to see a woman naked. What is disordered is that you're not to desire
01:22:38 – 01:22:47: that of all women, you're to desire that of your wife and no one else. So it's a filter where on
01:22:47 – 01:22:52: one side you want everything about your wife and you should want nothing of other women,
01:22:52 – 01:22:57: and if you don't have a wife it should mean that you want nothing of any of them sexually.
01:22:57 – 01:23:03: So when someone is tempted by sexual desire by someone who's not his wife,
01:23:05 – 01:23:11: as you struggle with that, know that you're struggling with a properly ordered desire that's
01:23:11 – 01:23:16: misplaced because you're looking at someone that's not your wife. You shouldn't be looking,
01:23:16 – 01:23:23: you shouldn't be looking at a screen or a magazine or some figmentary representation
01:23:23 – 01:23:27: of a human being that's disembodied, that's no longer human, it's just an image.
01:23:28 – 01:23:31: That's one of the other destructive things about
01:23:32 – 01:23:38: viewing other people remotely like that, and it's an incredibly surreal and virtually
01:23:38 – 01:23:44: impossible thing that we face today, really entirely on the internet, but also even just
01:23:44 – 01:23:49: with magazines and with television and really with the invention of the photograph or at least
01:23:49 – 01:23:57: with the invention of easily reproduced drawings, because 200 years ago if you saw a beautiful girl
01:23:57 – 01:24:01: the only way you're going to see her was with your own eyes. I'm not talking about sexual
01:24:01 – 01:24:06: desire, not talking about seeing anyone naked or anything remotely like that, literally just
01:24:06 – 01:24:13: seeing a pretty girl's face in almost all of human history was going to be pretty rare,
01:24:13 – 01:24:18: like it's going to be a neighbor, it's going to be someone in your closer extended family,
01:24:18 – 01:24:23: it's going to be someone in your tribe or clan, someone nearby, or perhaps you travel and you see
01:24:23 – 01:24:31: a pretty girl somewhere else. Short of actually getting in with 30 feet of someone and seeing
01:24:31 – 01:24:36: her with your own eyes or him with your own eyes for your girl, men and women are equally
01:24:37 – 01:24:42: sexual when it comes to the visual, it's nonsense that there's a huge disparity,
01:24:42 – 01:24:48: men are much more visual, but girls absolutely have the same sort of responses,
01:24:48 – 01:24:53: just somewhat in different circumstances, so girls absolutely lust after guys when they look at them
01:24:53 – 01:25:01: too, but it's much more about fantasy for them. The thing that we struggle with today, and I think
01:25:01 – 01:25:08: the really bizarre dehumanizing aspect of images of people, regardless of anything else, regardless
01:25:08 – 01:25:13: of sexual chastity, just the idea that you would see someone phenomenally beautiful because you're
01:25:13 – 01:25:20: able to find a picture of them, it was impossible for almost all human history, which means that
01:25:20 – 01:25:26: for us, for everyone on earth today, our beauty standards are completely bonkers,
01:25:27 – 01:25:33: because 200 years ago, the best looking person in your town, maybe they're only average man or
01:25:33 – 01:25:37: woman, maybe they're exceptionally pretty, if it was from a really good looking family,
01:25:38 – 01:25:44: maybe there was an outlier, but it's so rare that the idea that you have to have the incredibly
01:25:44 – 01:25:50: beautiful man or woman would never occur to anyone, because that person, when Helen of Troy,
01:25:50 – 01:25:56: the face that launched a thousand ships, there was a joke on Twitter a few months ago that Helen
01:25:56 – 01:26:01: of Troy was mid, I think she wasn't really all that attractive, she probably was, but was she
01:26:01 – 01:26:08: the most beautiful person on the planet? Whatever. Today, we all see people more beautiful than
01:26:08 – 01:26:13: anything that would have potentially existed in antiquity, not necessarily because the people
01:26:13 – 01:26:21: are actually that beautiful, but because lighting and makeup and digital alteration fabricate
01:26:21 – 01:26:28: fake versions of human beings, after starting with a human being who's so rare in terms of
01:26:28 – 01:26:35: their relative beauty, and physical beauty is not only subjective, it's also objective.
01:26:35 – 01:26:40: I think we talked about in a previous episode, the factors of symmetry and actually the
01:26:42 – 01:26:48: golden ratio itself in the proportions of a face and a body go directly to the beauty of a person.
01:26:48 – 01:26:56: You can mathematically demonstrate how close someone's visual appearance is to an ideal
01:26:56 – 01:27:00: mathematical form, and the closer it is to that, the more attractive they are.
01:27:01 – 01:27:06: All these alterations make someone who's, hey, they're not your neighbor, they're someone remote.
01:27:06 – 01:27:11: In most cases, particularly with porn, they're probably the victims of sex trafficking,
01:27:11 – 01:27:14: so you're participating in multiple levels of evil at that point.
01:27:15 – 01:27:21: But then you're looking at people far away who have been altered in ways that make them no
01:27:21 – 01:27:29: longer human. They're a doppelganger representation of, frankly, in most cases today, a pretty
01:27:29 – 01:27:37: disgusting version of beauty that we've been taught by media who controls the media to say,
01:27:37 – 01:27:43: oh yeah, that's great. We see so many young girls now getting lip filler. It's revolting.
01:27:43 – 01:27:51: It turns them into goblins, beautiful faces, turned into hideous, inhuman things that are
01:27:51 – 01:27:57: suddenly on the wrong side of the uncanny valley because so-called doctors are butchering their
01:27:57 – 01:28:04: faces to chase these artificial ideas of beauty that no one of their own accord would reach.
01:28:05 – 01:28:11: So even just looking at these sorts of things fundamentally distorts our view of the people
01:28:11 – 01:28:18: we actually see around us. If you spend all your time watching movies or TV or something until
01:28:18 – 01:28:24: recently, it was always going to be some of the hottest people. Today, they're abnormally unattractive,
01:28:24 – 01:28:32: which is itself another form of assault. But these unnatural experiences, including porn,
01:28:32 – 01:28:38: including seeing intimate things that you should only ever see, much of it should never be seen
01:28:39 – 01:28:44: because so many things that are done are unnatural. They're disordered and evil.
01:28:45 – 01:28:51: But even just absolutely normal, appropriate sexual activity, you should only see that if
01:28:51 – 01:28:59: you're seeing it in first person with your wife. And divorcing any aspect of any of this from
01:28:59 – 01:29:05: the reality of one man and one woman brought together by God makes it all worse. But it
01:29:05 – 01:29:13: makes it worse in ways that can often become inescapable. We talked about the pill destroying
01:29:13 – 01:29:20: girls' bodies, destroying their ability to be attracted to a man or to gestate correctly.
01:29:20 – 01:29:27: Porn absolutely destroys a man's ability to function sexually. It's a very, very common
01:29:27 – 01:29:32: complaint among girls today that guys who have become habituated and addicted to
01:29:33 – 01:29:40: viewing pornography can no longer function sexually. In some cases, it may take a while
01:29:40 – 01:29:44: to go away. In some cases, it may never go away because you're functionally burning out a part
01:29:44 – 01:29:50: of your brain that was never supposed to be burned out in the first place. When you have a naturally
01:29:50 – 01:29:57: properly ordered marriage with a woman or a man, you don't burn out. You have all things in moderation
01:29:57 – 01:30:04: and you enjoy them fruitfully and with each other and there's no burnout. You can't unless
01:30:04 – 01:30:09: she's cooking way too much good food and you get fat. But she has an incentive not to make you fat
01:30:09 – 01:30:16: because she doesn't want to look at you being fat. So there's always a mutually reinforcing
01:30:16 – 01:30:22: aspect to an actual real relationship and it completely vanishes when you're looking at an
01:30:22 – 01:30:28: image of someone who's not even real. I want to read the verse that I mentioned earlier because
01:30:28 – 01:30:33: I think it's important to read the actual words of scripture, not just mention them so that those
01:30:33 – 01:30:41: who know what I'm referencing know the verse. But I mentioned having a wife and the wife not
01:30:41 – 01:30:45: withholding from her husband, the husband not withholding from his wife and that is of course
01:30:45 – 01:30:52: First Corinthians. But because of the temptation to sexual immorality each man should have his
01:30:52 – 01:30:57: own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights
01:30:57 – 01:31:03: and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body,
01:31:03 – 01:31:07: but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body,
01:31:07 – 01:31:14: but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time
01:31:14 – 01:31:19: that you may devote yourselves to prayer, but then come together again
01:31:19 – 01:31:22: so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
01:31:24 – 01:31:29: And so scripture's incredibly clear that sex is part of marriage and it's not a part of marriage
01:31:29 – 01:31:35: that is optional. As we've mentioned before it is in fact the definition of marriage because
01:31:35 – 01:31:43: marriage has to be consummated. I would also like to emphasize something that Woe said previously
01:31:43 – 01:31:52: about singleness in particular. For those pastors and teachers out there or others,
01:31:52 – 01:31:57: anyone in a position of authority or really even if you aren't in a position of authority,
01:31:57 – 01:32:02: if you've just put this out there, if you've repeated this lie, if you have said that singleness
01:32:02 – 01:32:10: is a blessing, you need to publicly recant that because that is false.
01:32:11 – 01:32:18: Celebrity is a blessing. Now is it conceivable that God could use singleness as a blessing for
01:32:18 – 01:32:28: a season? Absolutely. But blessing by and large is something that is in accord with God's ordering
01:32:28 – 01:32:37: things and singleness is not as this verse makes clear. Each man should have his own wife. Each woman
01:32:37 – 01:32:42: should have her own husband. That is the natural order of things. That is what God intends.
01:32:42 – 01:32:49: He made them man and woman. We have many verses about that starting with Genesis 2.
01:32:49 – 01:32:53: Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife and they shall
01:32:53 – 01:33:00: become one flesh. This runs throughout Scripture. And so singleness when you describe it in terms
01:33:00 – 01:33:04: of being some sort of great blessing, you are lying about God in his word and you are doing
01:33:04 – 01:33:11: very real harm, particularly to the young men and women who are single and very much do not wish to
01:33:11 – 01:33:19: be so. And so if you hold to that position, I certainly hope that God does something that will
01:33:19 – 01:33:24: make it so that you are no longer able to teach that false doctrine up to it, including striking
01:33:24 – 01:33:29: you mute and having your teeth right out of your head. Because there should be very real
01:33:29 – 01:33:36: consequences for false teachers who teach these sorts of evil things. And personally I am sick
01:33:36 – 01:33:43: of hearing that one. Not personally as in in reference to me, but personally sick of hearing it
01:33:43 – 01:33:48: with regard to other young men, because these are young men who have very real problems,
01:33:48 – 01:33:56: who are facing a world that is stacked against them. And then they have teachers and those in
01:33:56 – 01:34:01: positions of authority and worse pastors in many cases saying these incredibly wicked and harmful
01:34:01 – 01:34:09: things. Apparently some pastors, teachers and others should think long and hard about the
01:34:09 – 01:34:16: stricter judgment. One of the last passages I wanted to get into is from 1 Peter 3.
01:34:16 – 01:34:23: Likewise, wives, be subject to your husbands so that even if some do not obey the word, they may
01:34:23 – 01:34:28: be one without a word by the conduct of their wives. When they see you respectful and pure
01:34:28 – 01:34:33: conduct, do not let your adorning be external, the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold
01:34:33 – 01:34:38: jewelry or the clothing you wear, but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with
01:34:38 – 01:34:43: the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.
01:34:43 – 01:34:47: For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves
01:34:47 – 01:34:53: by submitting to their own husbands is Sarah Obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord,
01:34:53 – 01:34:57: and you are her children if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.
01:34:57 – 01:35:02: Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the
01:35:02 – 01:35:07: woman as the weaker vessel since they are heirs with you of the grace of life so that your prayers
01:35:07 – 01:35:13: may not be hindered. I think this is another small example of something that this is not a
01:35:13 – 01:35:19: passage that's just for okay once you're married, but for a young man, if you're looking for girls,
01:35:21 – 01:35:25: I don't think that we necessarily need to treat this as never adorning yourself
01:35:25 – 01:35:29: in any sort of fine clothing because there are many examples in scripture where
01:35:29 – 01:35:33: that is a godly and upright thing. You know, the discussions of marriage,
01:35:33 – 01:35:40: feast, wedding, feast, and other sorts of celebrations, adorning in beautiful fashion
01:35:40 – 01:35:47: is not idolatrous. It can be a celebration. However, it's very common again because of the
01:35:47 – 01:35:56: depraved culture in which we live for particularly girls to be, to see a fashion as identity,
01:35:56 – 01:36:02: you know, just as guys, you young guys especially have the problem of when you fall into complete
01:36:02 – 01:36:08: irony or wisecracking or blackpilling or complaining or whatever.
01:36:09 – 01:36:15: Emotional responses to things are not a personality. A personality is more than just
01:36:17 – 01:36:21: a reactive knee-jerk response to, you know, some social input.
01:36:22 – 01:36:29: Girls need to be the sort of human beings who do not see their clothing as their personality
01:36:30 – 01:36:38: on top of not being giving the exhibition of promiscuous sexual behavior. You know,
01:36:38 – 01:36:44: she should be dressed in a chased way, but you also don't want a girl who's caked in makeup and is
01:36:44 – 01:36:53: always, always dressed to the nines because that sort of person is, she's going down a path where
01:36:53 – 01:36:58: look at me, look at me is more important than who she is inwardly.
01:36:59 – 01:37:05: And, you know, makeup is a, as a small example, but I would put makeup up there almost on the
01:37:05 – 01:37:13: same level as, as the pill. You know, I have, I know guys who when they early on when they met
01:37:13 – 01:37:19: their wives are like, I don't, I don't want to see you in makeup. An attractive girl doesn't
01:37:19 – 01:37:26: need or use a bunch of that crap. It's, it's another one of those memes that was frankly
01:37:26 – 01:37:32: introduced into, well, it's been around for a long time, obviously, they're examples from antiquity of,
01:37:33 – 01:37:39: of makeup being used, but it's notable that they were almost always used in profane fashions
01:37:40 – 01:37:46: or just as, as idolatrous fashion, you know, either directly as part of some ceremony,
01:37:46 – 01:37:52: of some ceremonial evil, or just as a part of a culture that was itself just kind of ambiently
01:37:52 – 01:37:59: evil. It's not like a girl who's ever worn makeup is out of the cards, but hey, you want to see
01:37:59 – 01:38:05: what she looks like without makeup because makeup can completely transform a face and you may think
01:38:05 – 01:38:10: you're looking at one person. And when you see her without makeup, she's a completely different
01:38:10 – 01:38:15: person. Maybe you find one attractive and you find the other one completely unattractive and
01:38:17 – 01:38:21: you should know which is which before you marry her because that's, you have every right to know
01:38:21 – 01:38:26: whom you're marrying. So it's a small thing, but it's one of those things that, you know,
01:38:27 – 01:38:32: ideally, it really shouldn't even exist. And, you know, we, there's talk of natural beauty and
01:38:32 – 01:38:39: it's a real thing. Someone who, someone who's living a chaste and wholesome life, who's happy,
01:38:40 – 01:38:46: who's at peace with God, is genuinely more attractive. In someone who has to resort to this
01:38:46 – 01:38:53: sort of trickery, usually is, again, they're usually engaging in some degree of self-loathing.
01:38:54 – 01:39:01: It's certainly deceitful and it's often, you know, maybe it's just low self-esteem. It's not at all
01:39:01 – 01:39:09: irredeemable. Sometimes it tends toward self-hatred and that's usually when you see not only
01:39:10 – 01:39:15: egregious amounts of makeup, but also tons of piercings, tattoos, like all these things that are
01:39:16 – 01:39:23: physically altering the appearance of a girl away from what God made. God made one thing and then
01:39:23 – 01:39:29: they go in a completely different direction. That's not a good sign. A girl or a man should
01:39:29 – 01:39:35: become more himself in God and as he lives his life or her life, we should become more of what
01:39:35 – 01:39:40: God wants and not less. And when we flee from the bodies that he gave us and the faces that he gave
01:39:40 – 01:39:46: us, you know, if you want to improve your body, men lift weights. I can tell you in particular,
01:39:46 – 01:39:50: if you're young men, start lifting now. The younger, the better. Like, you know, there's,
01:39:50 – 01:39:56: there's a minimal age beneath which it may not be good for you related to growth plates, but
01:39:56 – 01:40:02: by the time you're 15, 16, you absolutely should be doing a lot of vigorous physical exercise
01:40:02 – 01:40:07: because I can tell you as an older guy, the muscle that you gain when you're 15, 20, you keep very
01:40:07 – 01:40:13: easily the rest of your life. Muscle you gain when you're in your 30s, you got to work or it goes away.
01:40:13 – 01:40:20: It's not free anymore. It's remarkable. I used to, I was a paper boy. I pedaled six days a week,
01:40:20 – 01:40:26: 90 minutes a day up and down some pretty serious hills. My thighs are really strong and they've
01:40:26 – 01:40:31: stayed strong despite not doing anything particular with them. That muscle I basically just got for
01:40:31 – 01:40:37: free as a kid accidentally. Do the work now, put in the work now, and you will have a much easier
01:40:37 – 01:40:43: life when you're older because strength is good. Strength is something that God commends. It makes
01:40:43 – 01:40:48: your life easier, makes you more attractive, makes you more confident. And for young men,
01:40:49 – 01:40:54: I think that's a big part of this is that finding confidence when you necessarily don't have a lot
01:40:54 – 01:41:00: of reasons for it, especially when you're young, is one of the hardest hurdles to feel like you have
01:41:00 – 01:41:07: something worth sharing with a girl. There's a fundamental difference between the way girls
01:41:07 – 01:41:15: viewmate selection and guys. Guys want to be worth a girl wanting them. And girls today are
01:41:15 – 01:41:22: effectively the choosers. And that's, it affects everything in our lives. And when, when may selection
01:41:22 – 01:41:27: is running properly, you know, when the community, when parents are involved, and the inputs when
01:41:27 – 01:41:31: the young man, the young woman are chased and they're doing the right things or trying to,
01:41:33 – 01:41:37: that reinforcement of wholesomeness just takes off in its grade.
01:41:39 – 01:41:44: Unfortunately, today we're living in a world where everything seems to be set against us.
01:41:44 – 01:41:50: But one thing that you can do as a young man is just build something, build yourself into something,
01:41:50 – 01:41:58: and trust in God to deliver in his time a girl who will like who you are, who will love who you
01:41:58 – 01:42:04: are. Because that's what you need. It's what you know you need. I think that the biggest hurdle
01:42:04 – 01:42:12: for guys dealing with being alone is that there's an inherently ironic tension between
01:42:15 – 01:42:20: the thing that you want as a young man more than anything else is to, to have a girl, to have
01:42:20 – 01:42:27: someone to love and to be the man that she wants, that she wants, period. The problem with that,
01:42:27 – 01:42:34: and the reason I used irony correctly, I hope here is that if she can smell, if she can instinctually
01:42:34 – 01:42:40: detect that the thing that you want more than anything is to have a girl or for, especially for
01:42:40 – 01:42:46: it to be her, that's inherently repellent. It's completely insane. It's completely backwards.
01:42:46 – 01:42:51: But the very thing that's the most important to you, if you let it come across as anything remotely
01:42:51 – 01:42:58: like desperation, it becomes repulsive. And so while it's a properly ordered desire for you to
01:42:58 – 01:43:06: want a girl to want a wife, it is counterproductive if that becomes a conscious aspect of how you
01:43:06 – 01:43:12: conduct yourself. You can shape yourself into a man that you want to be, that you want, you know,
01:43:12 – 01:43:17: is God pleasing and will please a wife at some point. But if everything that you do is focused
01:43:17 – 01:43:24: entirely on, I hope she likes me, I hope she sees this, she might see it, but I promise you she will
01:43:24 – 01:43:28: not like it. And it's cruel and it's completely backwards. It's, it's one of the most insane
01:43:28 – 01:43:35: things about human existence, but it's an immutable law. And it's a tough thing for guys to get over.
01:43:35 – 01:43:42: But the simple rule is have some confidence, even if it's, even if it's hallucinatory for a time,
01:43:43 – 01:43:50: and relax, be happy and confident in who you are, even if you're just a goofball, I don't go over
01:43:50 – 01:43:55: the board with being goofy, but be confident in who you are, and that itself becomes appealing.
01:43:55 – 01:44:01: And if you can just set aside that the intense desire to not be alone, that is how you actually
01:44:01 – 01:44:11: satisfy that desire. I was tempted to add Proverbs 31, because of course it fits here. But one,
01:44:11 – 01:44:16: we've already moved into the end of this episode and describing some of the ways, some of the
01:44:16 – 01:44:22: practical things for young men to do, young men in particular to do, to aid in finding a wife and
01:44:22 – 01:44:30: just really living life. But I think instead I'll recommend, go listen to episode 22, that includes
01:44:30 – 01:44:39: reading Proverbs 31 in that episode. But we already went over some of the major issues here. Avoid
01:44:39 – 01:44:46: pornography, develop an actual personality. That should go without saying, but really it does need
01:44:46 – 01:44:52: to be repeated. You need to have an actual personality, not just things that you hate.
01:44:52 – 01:44:56: Don't make that your personality that will make everyone want to avoid you.
01:44:57 – 01:45:03: But on a purely practical note, not just lifting weights, do some exercise, and I'm going to remind
01:45:03 – 01:45:09: everyone, don't forget cardio. You actually do need your cardiovascular system, or you're not going to
01:45:09 – 01:45:16: have a particularly good go of things. Get a hobby. It almost doesn't matter what the hobby is.
01:45:17 – 01:45:23: I am going to recommend you not get obsessed with Star Wars or Star Trek, probably not the best hobby.
01:45:24 – 01:45:31: Men who do that tend to start building weird shrines. But whatever the hobby happens to be,
01:45:31 – 01:45:38: if it's painting miniatures, fine, do that. Great. Maybe also transform what you learn from the hobby
01:45:38 – 01:45:43: into something practical as well. Maybe take up a little bit of woodworking along with it,
01:45:43 – 01:45:49: because you've already learned the painting part. But it's important for men to have a hobby. You
01:45:50 – 01:45:55: need some sort of outlet, something into which you can pour some energy and time.
01:45:56 – 01:46:01: And it helps along with women as well, because then you will have something to discuss. I'm
01:46:01 – 01:46:07: not saying talk to her about the details of every miniature that you have in your collection.
01:46:08 – 01:46:12: Some women will enjoy that. Some won't. You have to be able to gauge that for yourself.
01:46:13 – 01:46:19: But it makes you more interesting if you have things in your life that do not involve her,
01:46:20 – 01:46:25: that don't involve any women, because they're things in your life that you're doing because
01:46:25 – 01:46:35: you want to do them. That is attractive to women. But insofar as the practical advice goes,
01:46:36 – 01:46:41: one of the things that I continually recommend, and I think it is one of the best and easiest
01:46:42 – 01:46:48: things you can do simply to feel a little better, is go for a walk every day.
01:46:49 – 01:46:56: Just go for a short walk every single day, 20, 30 minute walk. If you have a dog, great. If you
01:46:56 – 01:47:00: don't have a dog, fine. Go walk by yourself, walk with a neighbor, whatever it happens to be.
01:47:01 – 01:47:07: It gets you outside. It gets you a little cardio. It gets you some exercise. You will feel better
01:47:07 – 01:47:13: if you do this. It absolutely works. All of the research shows this is a good thing for you.
01:47:14 – 01:47:19: Anyone to whom you talk who has picked up this hobby will tell you this helps.
01:47:20 – 01:47:25: And sometimes it is the simple things in life that help. God created a beautiful world
01:47:25 – 01:47:30: and it's outside your window. Don't spend all your time inside, particularly in a dark room.
01:47:30 – 01:47:34: Go outside, get some sunlight, go for a walk, get a little cardio. You will feel better.
01:47:35 – 01:47:41: And in the same vein of very simple advice, drink some water. You're probably dehydrated,
01:47:41 – 01:47:45: particularly if you've picked up the bad habit of drinking energy drinks.
01:47:46 – 01:47:51: Hydration actually matters. Again, this is back to you're still a creature. You're still an animal.
01:47:51 – 01:47:55: There are things you have to do to take care of yourself. These are some of the basics.
01:47:55 – 01:48:01: These are things that your father, the authority figures in your life should have taught you,
01:48:01 – 01:48:07: should have helped you with these things. Maybe some of them did great. Maybe they didn't,
01:48:07 – 01:48:11: which is more and more likely these days. You need to do it yourself.
01:48:12 – 01:48:19: There's a wealth of resources for these things. You can improve your life and improve yourself,
01:48:20 – 01:48:25: which will not only make you feel better, but will improve your odds of finding a wife,
01:48:25 – 01:48:30: if that is what you were attempting to do. And I mentioned earlier that I would give
01:48:30 – 01:48:37: some practical advice on the actual finding a wife part, in addition to the don't look at college,
01:48:37 – 01:48:42: because that's probably not a good plan. And so for the fathers who were thinking, I sent my
01:48:42 – 01:48:46: daughter off to college to find a husband. No, you didn't. And it's a bad plan if you did.
01:48:48 – 01:48:53: But for the young men out there, if you're looking for a wife, go to the grocery store.
01:48:54 – 01:48:59: Some of the cashiers are probably single. Go to a coffee shop. Some of the baristas are probably
01:48:59 – 01:49:08: single. There are women all over the place. You don't have to go to a bar or a club or college
01:49:08 – 01:49:14: or any of these places you're told you can find women there. Go to a bookstore. Go there and read
01:49:14 – 01:49:21: for a while. See the women who walk in and out. There are plenty of places you can find women.
01:49:22 – 01:49:27: And this leads into some of the most important advice for some of the young men in the audience.
01:49:28 – 01:49:35: You need to be comfortable with rejection. Now I know that social anxiety is rampant in the
01:49:35 – 01:49:39: zoomer generation and younger. And quite frankly, millennials are pretty bad about it as well. Try
01:49:39 – 01:49:44: ringing the doorbell for a millennial. Good luck getting someone to actually answer.
01:49:46 – 01:49:53: But you need to get over it. That's the long and the short of it. It's blunt, but it's true.
01:49:53 – 01:50:00: Practice. Go up to a woman. Ask for a number. If she says no, okay, that's one woman out of there
01:50:00 – 01:50:07: are 300 million people in this country. So about half are women. Some 40% of that, probably about the
01:50:07 – 01:50:13: age range for you. Okay, so one out of tens of millions of potential women told you no. That's
01:50:13 – 01:50:16: not the end of the world. Get over it. Try again.
01:50:17 – 01:50:28: That's how you do things. And you know what's great about it? If you take it the right way, when
01:50:28 – 01:50:31: you're rejected, and you will be rejected, it doesn't matter if you're the most attractive
01:50:31 – 01:50:36: man on the planet and have millions of dollars. Some women still won't like you.
01:50:37 – 01:50:43: If you're rejected and you take it the right way, it gets easier to approach women in the future.
01:50:44 – 01:50:49: And so each time you do that, it's easier. You are building up that confidence that you need.
01:50:49 – 01:50:53: And yes, you can build confidence off of being rejected because you are getting more comfortable
01:50:53 – 01:51:01: with yourself. And that shows women are more likely to respond positively when you are comfortable
01:51:01 – 01:51:08: with yourself. And that takes practice because you probably didn't develop that growing up
01:51:09 – 01:51:14: and you need to develop it now. In the common thread in both of those things you just mentioned,
01:51:14 – 01:51:22: you know, approaching girls cold and going for a walk is that involves relaxation.
01:51:23 – 01:51:29: It is where that may sound. But if you are relaxed in doing things like walking, it relaxes you
01:51:29 – 01:51:34: being in nature. Actually, it changes your blood pressure. It changes everything about your body
01:51:34 – 01:51:43: even 30 minutes a day. When you are more relaxed, it's not off putting. If you're a ball of tension,
01:51:43 – 01:51:49: if you seem wound up and you seem like someone who's on the verge of something,
01:51:49 – 01:51:54: when you speak to someone that comes through. Even if it's deep down inside you, if that's
01:51:54 – 01:52:00: your internal state, girls especially can sniff that sort of thing out because they have more
01:52:00 – 01:52:06: finely tuned social senses than men. You have two groups of people, a bunch of men and a bunch of
01:52:06 – 01:52:12: women. The women are always going to do a better job at teasing out the hidden reefs. The things
01:52:12 – 01:52:18: that are hidden, the motivations, whatever is going on, they're going to tend to do a better job
01:52:18 – 01:52:24: because for them it's not rational. They're not thinking things through. They're intuiting
01:52:24 – 01:52:32: those things. They're figuring it out just by raw instinct. When you're relaxed, especially if you
01:52:32 – 01:52:39: go up to a girl and try to strike up a conversation, the hard thing is not caring if she cares.
01:52:41 – 01:52:46: You see a girl, you want to talk to her. The fact that you talk to her is driven by the fact that
01:52:46 – 01:52:53: you want to talk to her. Yet it can't come across that you want to talk to her. It's stupid and
01:52:53 – 01:52:59: insane. The worst thing you can do is make her think you're wound up like, I got to talk to her.
01:52:59 – 01:53:06: I hope she likes me. That's completely repellent. If you are relaxed to the point that she's like,
01:53:06 – 01:53:11: I wonder if he even cares, even when you approached her, that is when she's going to find you more
01:53:11 – 01:53:19: interesting. Again, it's counterintuitive. It's a pain in the butt, but it's how we're wired.
01:53:19 – 01:53:25: God gave us resilience. Men are the tough ones when it comes to this stuff.
01:53:27 – 01:53:30: Recently, it's a tragic trope that's come about as
01:53:31 – 01:53:36: sex reassignment surgery. These especially girls who are trying to live as men
01:53:38 – 01:53:42: freak out. They think, oh, it's easy mode because the whole culture tells them,
01:53:43 – 01:53:49: oh, it's so much easier being a guy. Now they suddenly look like a guy enough to pass,
01:53:49 – 01:53:55: and you know what happens? They become completely invisible. Some of them are actually driven to
01:53:55 – 01:54:02: suicide, not even just by the fact that they're engaging in what we all know is destructive,
01:54:02 – 01:54:08: but specifically the female to male. To suddenly realize how hard it is to be a man and to know
01:54:08 – 01:54:17: you've effectively taken a one-way trip is overwhelming. The aloneness that a man naturally
01:54:17 – 01:54:24: faces in the world is inconceivable to girls. They have no idea how hard it is to be us,
01:54:25 – 01:54:30: and we just take it in stride because it's all we know. Again, back to not blackpilling or being
01:54:30 – 01:54:36: a whiner or blaming them, you have to be resilient, even in the face of impossible odds.
01:54:37 – 01:54:42: That sort of strength and relaxation, even when it seems like everything is burning and everything
01:54:42 – 01:54:48: is lost or hopeless or whatever, when you can still be a happy warrior when you face
01:54:49 – 01:54:55: impossible odds, suddenly you become charming by that degree. Suddenly you become someone that
01:54:55 – 01:55:04: men want to be and women want to be with. That's really kind of just generically the advice,
01:55:04 – 01:55:08: and it's particularly hard for young guys because you don't know who you are yet. You're still
01:55:08 – 01:55:15: figuring that out, and so when we say things like don't let irony or sarcasm or something
01:55:15 – 01:55:21: become your personality, it's precisely because if that's all you do, it's what you will become,
01:55:21 – 01:55:26: and it's just not interesting. The nice thing about having hobbies and interests that have
01:55:27 – 01:55:34: some general appeal is that another thing that girls in particular find very appealing is when
01:55:34 – 01:55:39: a man has passion for something. Even if she's not interested in it, just the fact that you can be
01:55:39 – 01:55:45: interested in something to a point is attractive. Now, if it becomes an obsession and it's your
01:55:45 – 01:55:50: entire personality, then that's repulsive, and there's a lot of these things where it's like
01:55:50 – 01:55:56: it's great up to a point, and then beyond that point, it becomes disgusting and repulsive.
01:55:57 – 01:56:01: The reason that's a recurring theme is that that's really just how this stuff works,
01:56:01 – 01:56:07: and nobody told me as a young man. I had to figure this crap out myself the hard way multiple times,
01:56:07 – 01:56:16: and I made a lot of stupid and evil mistakes along the way, so romantically you look at my life and
01:56:16 – 01:56:23: say, that's a complete failure. Fine. I'm done with that crap, and that's not me blackpilling,
01:56:23 – 01:56:28: it's me realizing that having painted myself into a corner where I've personally screwed things up,
01:56:28 – 01:56:34: and at my age, this is now what I focus on. I focus on trying to help other men and trying to
01:56:35 – 01:56:43: help build a future for your children and for the world that I was born into and will leave
01:56:43 – 01:56:49: nothing behind. That is my blessing from God. All the things that I've screwed up, all the mistakes
01:56:49 – 01:56:56: that I've made along all these lines have given me the ability to do stuff that most guys can do.
01:56:56 – 01:57:01: I think one of the reasons that a lot of guys appreciate the work that we do is that, frankly,
01:57:01 – 01:57:07: Corey and I are able to say stuff publicly that most men still can't say, because they'll get
01:57:07 – 01:57:11: docks and destroyed, and if you have a family or you want to have a family and you want to take
01:57:11 – 01:57:15: care of your wife and kids, you probably can't say a lot of this stuff, especially some of the
01:57:15 – 01:57:21: recent episodes we've done. We can say it, and it's particularly because of the fact that
01:57:22 – 01:57:28: it's not the blessing of singleness, it's just, okay, this is where we are, here's what we're
01:57:28 – 01:57:35: doing with it. I would never hold myself up as a model for anything. I want anyone to emulate me,
01:57:35 – 01:57:40: but I would hope that as we try to share some of these lessons, some of which we've learned
01:57:40 – 01:57:45: ourselves, and some of which are general knowledge that are in places like the manosphere that has
01:57:45 – 01:57:52: a lot of terrible toxic stuff, I mean, it has just, once you realize how girls work, you go in one
01:57:52 – 01:57:57: or two directions, and most guys go in the direction that most of that world pushes them,
01:57:57 – 01:58:04: which is just rampant fornication, particularly if you have a low regard for girls. If you think
01:58:05 – 01:58:09: they're all whores, I can't believe they're like this, I'm just going to have fun,
01:58:09 – 01:58:15: I'm going to exploit those weaknesses and those mistakes. That's evil, but it's easy, and frankly,
01:58:15 – 01:58:19: it's what most of the world that knows about this stuff says. There are not many Christians that
01:58:19 – 01:58:26: both know it and have some aptitude for it who will also say, here's how this actually applies
01:58:27 – 01:58:33: for Christians, because it does, because the exploitation of weaknesses in human nature
01:58:33 – 01:58:41: that are used by evil men are the very things that shape all of our lives in one way or another.
01:58:41 – 01:58:45: If you have a weakness or a proclivity, either you're going to keep it in check
01:58:45 – 01:58:50: or it's going to run away with you, and that's why anchoring the stuff in scripture is important,
01:58:50 – 01:58:54: is that above all else, we need to know that we are not our own, but we are bought with a price.
01:58:55 – 01:59:01: God paid for us on the cross, and God gives us the Holy Spirit, living within us,
01:59:01 – 01:59:06: and so that should preclude, when we focus on it, all these other mistakes. The sinful human
01:59:06 – 01:59:13: flesh that's still here even in the sanctified man or woman has those desires, and God wants them
01:59:13 – 01:59:21: to be fulfilled in a godly way. As we close out, trusting in those promises needs to be paramount,
01:59:21 – 01:59:28: and then living a daily life of both repentance from our sinful inclinations and
01:59:29 – 01:59:35: bettering ourselves in a godly fashion to make ourselves the sort of man that God wants us to
01:59:35 – 01:59:41: be. God has a lot to say about a lot of these things. When we do those, we then have to trust
01:59:41 – 01:59:48: that God will deliver on his promises and his time, and that's the ultimate source of relaxation.
01:59:48 – 01:59:53: We can't be worked up about it and afraid that we're going to fail and God's not going to deliver.
01:59:54 – 02:00:00: You do your part and trust God, and God will deliver on his promises. I don't know when.
02:00:01 – 02:00:07: Not everyone will necessarily ever get a girlfriend and a wife, which is obviously the goal.
02:00:08 – 02:00:15: Goal is not a girlfriend. The goal is a godly, faithful wife. Find someone for whom you can be
02:00:15 – 02:00:22: a head, make yourself her head, and be a good head to be a faithful head, being the kind of head
02:00:22 – 02:00:30: that she looks up to and admires and needs and trusts and turns to, because that is your role
02:00:30 – 02:00:35: as a man, to be the sort of man who has his bearings, even when things are on fire and things
02:00:35 – 02:00:40: are scary and they're weird and no one knows what's going on. If you can be relaxed and still say,
02:00:41 – 02:00:45: I love you. I'm going to take care of you. I have this. There's nothing to worry about.
02:00:45 – 02:00:51: That is the essence of marriage, where there's a sacrifice as God modeled,
02:00:51 – 02:00:56: as Christ modeled for the church that doesn't involve you dying. You can sacrifice simply being
02:00:58 – 02:01:05: the one who bears under the weight of all these pressures without cracking. You can do that by
02:01:05 – 02:01:10: your own strength. It can only come from strength in faith in God and in the promises he's given us.
02:01:12 – 02:01:16: And so I think we'll end with a reading from Matthew 6, The Words of Christ.
02:01:17 – 02:01:22: I'm a little tempted to include a link in the show notes to a chicken stream as
02:01:22 – 02:01:28: an object lesson, possibly in 4K, but we'll see if I include that or not. But Matthew 6,
02:01:29 – 02:01:35: Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink,
02:01:35 – 02:01:41: nor about your body what you will put on, is not life more than food and the body more than clothing.
02:01:42 – 02:01:48: Look at the birds of the air. They neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly
02:01:48 – 02:01:54: Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious
02:01:54 – 02:01:59: can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing?
02:01:59 – 02:02:05: Consider the lilies of the field how they grow. They neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you,
02:02:05 – 02:02:12: even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so close the grass of the
02:02:12 – 02:02:18: field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you,
02:02:18 – 02:02:25: O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious saying, What shall we eat or what shall we drink
02:02:25 – 02:02:30: or what shall we wear? For the heathens seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father
02:02:30 – 02:02:36: knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness,
02:02:36 – 02:02:41: and all these things will be added to you. Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow,
02:02:41 – 02:02:46: for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.