According to Their Generations

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Woe

aka Eschatologuy

Most modern Christians have bought into the cultural argument that the provenance of ideas does not matter, but this is not the Scriptural view of things. God is deeply interested in genealogy — and that includes the genealogy of ideas — and Christians should take the matter seriously. Ideas, beliefs, et cetera, should not be analyzed in a vacuum — they should be analyzed according to their nature and according to their source.

In this episode, we address a number of related issues including genealogy, ideas, the genealogy of ideas, ancestry, the Fourth Commandment, and morality.

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4 Replies to “According to Their Generations”

  1. Who is the subject of ‘one of themselves’ in Titus 1:12?

    Woe’s fatal exegesis* of Titus 1:12-13 mistakes Paul to be affirming the false doctrine and not rather publicizing it for condemnation.

    *Stone Choir According to Their Generations: Timestamp 27:08

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    1. The poet who is referenced in that verse is Epimenides, and the poem is as follows:

      They fashioned a tomb for you, holy and high one,
      Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies.
      But you are not dead: you live and abide forever,
      For in you we live and move and have our being.

      As to Woe’s exegesis, it is, of course, accurate, as the very next verse testifies: “This testimony is true.”

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      1. I mean grammatically wise who is the general subject in verse 12? It has to be the same subject as verses 10 and 11.

        Paul has described the subject as teaching falsely in 10 and 11 so the ‘this witness is true’ in verse 13 cannot mean their teaching is now true but Paul’s witness of them is true.

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        1. It is important to remember that the verse numbers are a later addition and are not inspired. Paul begins the section by commenting on the ‘circumcision party’ and then moves on to commenting on the Cretans, which makes perfect sense as Titus was Bishop of Crete. He uses the quote in order to preface his comments regarding rebuke.

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