Transcript: Episode 0002

“According to Their Generations”

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00:00:00 – 00:00:14:	this begins.

00:00:14 – 00:00:43:	Welcome to the Stone Quire podcast. I am Corey J. Moller, and I'm well. In this episode,

00:00:43 – 00:00:50:	we will be discussing the issues of genealogy, ideas, the genealogy of ideas, the fourth

00:00:50 – 00:00:59:	commandment, ancestry, morality, and a number of related issues. We now live in a time when

00:00:59 – 00:01:04:	few care about the provenance, the source, the genealogy of the things they consume,

00:01:04 – 00:01:09:	whether it is physically, intellectually, or spiritually, or the things they believe.

00:01:10 – 00:01:17:	Is this how God wants us to operate? Is this how God operates? Now, some know these things matter

00:01:17 – 00:01:22:	at least to a degree and in a certain way. There are those who will go out of their way to

00:01:22 – 00:01:28:	purchase heirloom seeds, to buy organic produce, to avoid soy, at least in certain forms,

00:01:28 – 00:01:33:	to avoid hyphryctose corn syrup, other various things in their diet, who will carefully select

00:01:33 – 00:01:40:	the breed of their dog for certain behaviors. But if people actually apply this to what they believe,

00:01:41 – 00:01:47:	by way of example, if I handed you a picture and told you that it was taken by a propagandist

00:01:47 – 00:01:55:	from the USSR, would you believe that picture is true? Would you believe that it represents reality,

00:01:55 – 00:02:03:	probably not because the USSR was known for lying, doctoring photos, and so forth? Similarly,

00:02:03 – 00:02:12:	if I gave you information and said that it came from an avowed Marxist, would you be inclined to

00:02:12 – 00:02:17:	believe or disbelieve it? And I don't mean just CRT, but all of the various things that come from

00:02:17 – 00:02:23:	particularly the Frankfurt School, you probably would be disinclined to believe it, and that is a good

00:02:23 – 00:02:28:	thing. But it's important to distinguish between say the unwitting and the witting Marxist,

00:02:29 – 00:02:35:	because sometimes the unwitting deceiver is more dangerous than the witting.

00:02:36 – 00:02:43:	But to move on to the actual topic of today's episode, genealogy and scripture. And actually,

00:02:44 – 00:02:49:	don't mean that because first we have to discuss a couple of other issues related to genealogy

00:02:49 – 00:02:55:	and scripture, because I want to get something out of the way that will definitely come up,

00:02:55 – 00:03:02:	that will be raised by adversaries, and that is the seeming condemnation of genealogies in scripture.

00:03:03 – 00:03:07:	Now there are two core verses for this. There are some other verses that are related,

00:03:08 – 00:03:17:	but the two core ones are Titus 39 and 1 Timothy 14. Titus 39 first. But avoid foolish

00:03:17 – 00:03:24:	controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and

00:03:24 – 00:03:30:	worthless. And of course, 1 Timothy 14, the second. Nor to devote themselves to myths and endless

00:03:30 – 00:03:36:	genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.

00:03:36 – 00:03:41:	But of course, it is important always to add the context, and if you were actually looking at

00:03:41 – 00:03:45:	the verse, you'll notice that nor at the beginning of 1 Timothy 14 is lowercase. We've started

00:03:45 – 00:03:51:	off in the middle of a sentence. So I'd like to add that context back. Here's verse 3 and 4.

00:03:52 – 00:03:57:	As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain

00:03:57 – 00:04:03:	persons not to teach any different doctrine, nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies,

00:04:03 – 00:04:08:	which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.

00:04:09 – 00:04:14:	So what is the word that we actually have in these two verses for genealogy?

00:04:14 – 00:04:21:	It is genalogia, which is an account of ancestry, and it is in fact the word from which we get

00:04:21 – 00:04:28:	genealogy. You can probably see the two parts in there, gene and logia, the study of genes,

00:04:28 – 00:04:35:	more or less broken down. And this should bring to mind another verse from the New Testament.

00:04:35 – 00:04:40:	It should bring to mind Matthew 1-1. And why should it bring to mind Matthew 1-1?

00:04:41 – 00:04:48:	Beep-loss, Genesios, Yezu Christu, Huyu, Dawid, Huyu, Abraham.

00:04:49 – 00:04:54:	The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham,

00:04:54 – 00:05:02:	there's that same word. Now that is Genesios. Genomai comes from, related to,

00:05:02 – 00:05:09:	to become or to take place. They should also raise, bring to mind, something else in Scripture,

00:05:09 – 00:05:18:	Genesis, Genesis, the very beginning of Scripture. But before we get back into that, I want to address

00:05:19 – 00:05:25:	a particular word from that verse in Titus, and that is the word that is translated

00:05:25 – 00:05:34:	worthless, Matoioss. And that word means pertaining to being of no use, idle, empty, fruitless,

00:05:34 – 00:05:39:	useless, powerless, lacking truth. We see this in a lot of places in Scripture,

00:05:39 – 00:05:44:	but particularly one that it should bring to mind, and that it will bring to mind if you are

00:05:44 – 00:05:50:	familiar with Scripture, is Ecclesiastes. Now we'll bring it to mind even more readily

00:05:50 – 00:05:56:	if you happen to have read Luther's translation, and I do mean the German. Because here is a verse

00:05:56 – 00:06:07:	from Ecclesiastes. And of course that will be familiar, even if you don't know German,

00:06:07 – 00:06:12:	you may understand the cadence there what is being said, because what is that? That's Vanity of Vanities

00:06:12 – 00:06:19:	says the preacher. Vanity of Vanities, all, is Vanity. And the word being translated, the Hebrew

00:06:20 – 00:06:28:	word is Hebrew, vapor or breath, figuratively translated here as Vanity. Now Titus 3.9 in German.

00:06:29 – 00:06:36:	The Turkish-dened Fragan Abba, the Gershlechtisch register, the Zankus, Unstritis, Ubadas, Gazetst,

00:06:36 – 00:06:43:	and Schlaggedisch, Denzyzint, Unnutzd, Un-Eitel. I only want you to pay attention to that last word,

00:06:43 – 00:06:52:	because I want you to see this connection, idle. Allist, Gans, idle, idle, worthless, useless,

00:06:53 – 00:06:58:	vain. And of course to read Titus 3.9 again in the German to remind you, but avoid foolish

00:06:58 – 00:07:04:	controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable

00:07:04 – 00:07:11:	and worthless. Now, knowing Scripture thoroughly is vital because you will be able to make these

00:07:11 – 00:07:17:	sorts of connections if you have Scripture in your mind. And so what is one of our general

00:07:17 – 00:07:21:	canons of construction of interpretation when it comes to Scripture? Scripture,

00:07:21 – 00:07:28:	Scriptura, Scripturam, Interpreter, Scriptur, Interprets, Scriptur. And so let us look to Titus again,

00:07:28 – 00:07:35:	Titus 114. Therefore, rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting

00:07:35 – 00:07:41:	themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. Focus on

00:07:41 – 00:07:47:	what is being told to the recipient of the letter, which of course, Titus and then us,

00:07:48 – 00:07:56:	what are being told to avoid Jewish myths? This should bring to mind Matthew 3, specifically

00:07:56 – 00:08:02:	verses 9 through 10. And do not presume to say to yourselves, we have Abraham as our Father,

00:08:02 – 00:08:08:	for I tell you. God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham, even now the

00:08:08 – 00:08:13:	axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut

00:08:13 – 00:08:19:	down and thrown into the fire. So what are we being told to avoid here when we're told to avoid

00:08:19 – 00:08:25:	genealogies in this useless speculation, these worthless things? We are being told to avoid

00:08:25 – 00:08:31:	what so many of the Jews presumed. Well, of course I'm saved. I'm a son of Abraham. I'm

00:08:31 – 00:08:39:	descended from him by blood. Salvation belongs to us. That is useless genealogy. That is worship

00:08:39 – 00:08:45:	of your race of your ancestors. That is idolatry. That is what we are being told to avoid.

00:08:47 – 00:08:53:	And now let us turn back to genealogy in scripture and particularly, of course, we will start with

00:08:53 – 00:09:04:	Genesis. So Genesis 2, 4. Oute, e, biblas, guinezios, uranu, cae, gase, jote, egenator.

00:09:05 – 00:09:09:	These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created.

00:09:10 – 00:09:16:	These are the generations of. I want you to focus on that little bit of the text there,

00:09:16 – 00:09:26:	because that is Tolodot in Hebrew. It occurs 10 times in Genesis. Genesis 2, 4, Genesis 5, 1,

00:09:26 – 00:09:38:	Genesis 6, 9, Genesis 10, 1, Genesis 11, 10, Genesis 11, 27, Genesis 25, 12, Genesis 25, 19, Genesis 36,

00:09:39 – 00:09:47:	1, Genesis 36, 9, Genesis 37, 2. Now, these are major divisions in scripture. The

00:09:47 – 00:09:52:	attentive reader may have noticed I actually listed 11, but that is because Genesis 36, 9 is

00:09:52 – 00:10:00:	repetition, emphasizing Genesis 36, 1 with relation to Esa and his progeny. So, for instance,

00:10:00 – 00:10:09:	in Genesis 5, 1, oute, e, biblas, guinezios, and propon. These are the generations of man.

00:10:11 – 00:10:20:	Genesis 6, 9, oute de e, guinezis, noe. These are the generations of Noah. Now, these are both,

00:10:20 – 00:10:25:	of course, hutas. That is the reference there. There may be a different form. It is declined,

00:10:25 – 00:10:30:	but these are the same statements. And then, of course, we have one of the major ones in Genesis,

00:10:30 – 00:10:41:	Genesis 10, 1, oute de e, guinezis, toon, huiun, noe. These are the generations of the sons

00:10:41 – 00:10:52:	of Noah. Otherwise known as the Table of Nations, Genesis 10. I want to turn to Genesis 1032,

00:10:52 – 00:11:01:	which I do not have up here, so I will pull that up. Just want to read that the English,

00:11:02 – 00:11:07:	instead of the Greek. These are the clans of the sons of Noah. Note the word clans,

00:11:07 – 00:11:13:	according to their genealogies. There is that word again, in their nations, and from these the

00:11:13 – 00:11:21:	nations spread abroad on the earth after the flood. Of course, we are dealing with guinezis again.

00:11:22 – 00:11:29:	That word turns up constantly, so let's do a word study of it very briefly. It appears 40 times

00:11:29 – 00:11:37:	in the Old Testament. And to look here at Lagos, the word study, the scope, it appears a number of

00:11:37 – 00:11:43:	times in the ESV as well, translated from the Greek, but the 40 times in the Old Testament,

00:11:43 – 00:11:50:	translating various Hebrew terms, extended family, clan, types, descendants, successors, seed,

00:11:50 – 00:11:57:	descendants, stage in life, cycle, lifetime, descent, generation, descendants, relations, relatives,

00:11:57 – 00:12:02:	descent. You can see these are all related words. These are all the same sort of word family.

00:12:04 – 00:12:10:	And so we also wind up tying in to guinezis. That's the word for nation, people, class,

00:12:10 – 00:12:15:	or kind, a related word. And you're going to see also the word ethnos, which is another related

00:12:15 – 00:12:24:	word, which has a similar meaning. So let us turn to Acts 17, 26 through 27A, which is a verse that

00:12:24 – 00:12:30:	always comes up when discussing these issues. And he made from one man every nation of mankind to

00:12:30 – 00:12:35:	live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their

00:12:35 – 00:12:40:	dwelling place, that they should seek God and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him.

00:12:41 – 00:12:49:	Speaking of the nations, ethnos is the word for nation, which is a body of persons united by

00:12:49 – 00:12:54:	kinship, culture, and common traditions, or people groups foreign to a specific people group.

00:12:54 – 00:13:00:	So for instance, you will see that usage when you are contrasting Old Testament Israel versus

00:13:00 – 00:13:06:	the nations, because the nations are foreign nations with regard to Israel in that reference.

00:13:07 – 00:13:13:	And then a third usage, those who do not belong to groups professing faith in the God of Israel.

00:13:13 – 00:13:18:	We used to translate this as heathen in the Luther Bible translated as height in the same word.

00:13:19 – 00:13:24:	That is a more useful translation than Gentiles, which is a carryover from Latin, which just

00:13:24 – 00:13:32:	tends to confuse things. Better to use heathen. And so I turn back to genesis to look at

00:13:32 – 00:13:39:	genesis 3. Now I'm going to use the Septuagint numbering here because, quite frankly, it's better.

00:13:39 – 00:13:46:	For some reason we've decided that genesis 225 belongs in chapter 2. It really is part of chapter 3.

00:13:47 – 00:13:53:	And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed. Now this serpent was more

00:13:53 – 00:13:59:	crafty than any other beast of the field, that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman,

00:13:59 – 00:14:05:	did God actually say, you shall not eat of any tree in the garden? And the woman said to the serpent,

00:14:05 – 00:14:10:	we may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, you shall not eat of the fruit of

00:14:10 – 00:14:15:	the tree that is in the midst of the garden. Neither shall you touch it, lest you die. But the serpent

00:14:15 – 00:14:21:	said to the woman, you will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be

00:14:21 – 00:14:26:	opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil. So when the woman saw that the tree was good

00:14:26 – 00:14:31:	for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one

00:14:31 – 00:14:37:	wise. She took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her,

00:14:37 – 00:14:47:	and he ate. Now here is the core of what we are discussing today when it comes to genealogy.

00:14:47 – 00:14:55:	This is the genealogy of ideas. Look at the ideas that are present here in the narrative of the fall.

00:14:57 – 00:15:05:	Which ideas do we have? Whence do they come? You have statements from God. You shall not eat of

00:15:05 – 00:15:09:	the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden. That is a truth. It flows from God. That

00:15:09 – 00:15:15:	is the genealogy of that idea. It is traced directly back to statements God made to Adam and Eve.

00:15:18 – 00:15:26:	What else do we have here? Did God actually say we have ideas from Satan questioning whether or

00:15:26 – 00:15:31:	not God has actually said what he said? And then, of course, we have Satan simply lying. You will

00:15:31 – 00:15:36:	not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be

00:15:36 – 00:15:43:	like God, knowing good and evil. What is the genealogy of that idea of that statement? The genealogy

00:15:43 – 00:15:51:	of that, of course, is Satan. It comes from him. And so the point here, the vitally important

00:15:51 – 00:16:01:	takeaway is that the genealogy of an idea matters. Where the idea originated does say something

00:16:02 – 00:16:12:	about the truth of the idea. This is something that pops up throughout scripture whenever there is

00:16:12 – 00:16:20:	a discussion of fruits and trees and branches. You'll find this, for example, in Matthew 7.

00:16:20 – 00:16:25:	Jesus says, beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are

00:16:25 – 00:16:31:	ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Our grapes, gathered from thorn bushes or

00:16:31 – 00:16:38:	figs from fizzles. So every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the disease tree bears bad fruit.

00:16:38 – 00:16:44:	A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a disease tree bear good fruit. Every tree that

00:16:44 – 00:16:49:	does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire, thus you will recognize them by their

00:16:49 – 00:16:57:	fruits. And again, this, this is a reinforcement of the point that the place from which something

00:16:57 – 00:17:04:	came affects the nature of the thing. All of the generations of man and of beast throughout

00:17:04 – 00:17:11:	scripture are reinforcing that this is how God within creation made certain things by

00:17:12 – 00:17:20:	once they came. They came down through history, through the seed of men, and they were passed on to

00:17:20 – 00:17:27:	their sons who inherited foregood or evil, whatever the fathers bequease them. And this is something

00:17:27 – 00:17:33:	that's completely lost from from modern thought is the notion that there's any connection to history

00:17:33 – 00:17:40:	beyond accidents where we live in a time where it's reinforced continuously to us that

00:17:41 – 00:17:47:	you basically just appear in the timeline when God decided to create you. And basically,

00:17:47 – 00:17:53:	there was your mother and father conceived you through God's blessing and God stuck the next

00:17:53 – 00:18:00:	soul available in the soul hopper into that embryo. And then you became you by virtue of really

00:18:00 – 00:18:06:	happenstance on the creative part and then whatever God did in the spirit realm. But that's not really

00:18:06 – 00:18:11:	you. You're the spirit thing. You're the soul. You're not the body. That's completely contrary to

00:18:11 – 00:18:20:	what's actually happening when God gives life to a man. The soul in the body in those two cells,

00:18:20 – 00:18:26:	the the ovum and the sperm are united and the three come together to become one thing, which is

00:18:26 – 00:18:35:	a human. And that has roots and it has a miraculous aspect. And as Christians, we we have a

00:18:35 – 00:18:41:	tendency to only focus on the miraculous and the instantaneous in conception or in the conception

00:18:41 – 00:18:47:	of ideas. And we don't really care where they came from, but that's it's never how God speaks

00:18:47 – 00:18:53:	at any point in scripture. There's there's no point where God is indifferent to whence things came.

00:18:54 – 00:19:00:	In fact, there was the I mentioned it last week. There was the the fig tree that didn't bear fruit

00:19:00 – 00:19:06:	when Jesus came to it. And so he cursed it because it was failing to do its duty as a fig tree.

00:19:07 – 00:19:16:	When you see a tree or you see any any creature, what it produces is flowing from its nature.

00:19:17 – 00:19:22:	This applies to people who are not individuals. And that's something that we'll touch on today.

00:19:22 – 00:19:27:	And we're we're definitely going to do a full episode in the future about the enlightenment and

00:19:27 – 00:19:35:	individualism. But we're not just atomized bits of souls with flesh attached who appear and

00:19:35 – 00:19:42:	disappear, appear from the timeline. We have an inheritance and we pass that on to those who are

00:19:42 – 00:19:46:	descended from us and to those who inherit the ideas that we propagate. And that's why it's

00:19:46 – 00:19:52:	vitally important as you mentioned and mentioned earlier. There are a lot of times when people propagate

00:19:52 – 00:19:59:	evil ideas that came from evil sources. But they are choosing to do something they believe is good.

00:19:59 – 00:20:04:	They do it with a clean conscience. And in many cases, they're Christians who are propagating

00:20:05 – 00:20:10:	ideas that came from an evil tree. But because they didn't see the evil in the tree,

00:20:10 – 00:20:16:	they can't discern the evil in the fruit. And so when they willingly pass it on to someone else,

00:20:17 – 00:20:23:	they do tremendous harm. And they do it under the cloak of Christianity itself. They do it in the

00:20:23 – 00:20:29:	name of God, which is a tremendously evil and destructive thing. Because as a Christian, our

00:20:29 – 00:20:35:	shackles are not when we're talking to each other. We're not we're not preparing to be deceived.

00:20:35 – 00:20:40:	It would be as if Adam had deceived Eve in the garden rather than the serpent. She should have

00:20:40 – 00:20:45:	known that the serpent was creepy, but she didn't because there was nothing creepy. It was it was

00:20:45 – 00:20:52:	perfection. And she didn't see it coming. And the real thrust of this discussion today is around

00:20:53 – 00:20:58:	teaching Christians to see it coming because you don't have to simply evaluate the merits of

00:20:58 – 00:21:04:	an argument. You first and foremost have to devaluate the tree from which it came.

00:21:06 – 00:21:14:	There's a sort of general idea that ideas stand on their own. That we can assess something

00:21:14 – 00:21:21:	in a vacuum. We can simply look at it as some sort of little logic puzzle. But that's not how ideas

00:21:21 – 00:21:31:	work. That's how logic puzzles work. Yes. If a, then b, if b, then c, a, therefore c. Yes, that

00:21:31 – 00:21:36:	stands on its own kind of because it does still depend on the laws of logic, which flow from the

00:21:36 – 00:21:42:	nature of God. And therefore, if a good tree is their source and are true, but they can be assessed

00:21:42 – 00:21:48:	more or less in a vacuum, you cannot do that with ideas that are simply, they're more complex

00:21:48 – 00:21:57:	than a simple logical statement. And so we cannot take a book in a vacuum and just look at the book,

00:21:57 – 00:22:02:	look at the content of the book and assess whether or not we think it's good based on that contact

00:22:03 – 00:22:08:	because what is the source of this book? What is this book trying to accomplish? What was the

00:22:08 – 00:22:13:	person who wrote this book trying to accomplish? What else did he do in his life? We want to pretend

00:22:13 – 00:22:20:	like works are separate from the worker. And they're not because works flow from the worker.

00:22:20 – 00:22:28:	Creation is good because it is a work that flows from God. Sin is bad because it is a work that flows

00:22:28 – 00:22:38:	from sinners and from Satan. So the genesis, the source truly matters. And so we, we know that because

00:22:38 – 00:22:46:	we see it in scripture. The first book is called Genesis. And yes, I know the name isn't technically

00:22:46 – 00:22:51:	part of the book itself, but the word appears all throughout the book. So it is part of the book.

00:22:52 – 00:22:58:	And how does the New Testament start? The New Testament starts with a genealogy. So we can't

00:22:58 – 00:23:04:	obviously take the supposed blanket prohibition on genealogies, which is what some people try to turn

00:23:04 – 00:23:10:	it into as an actual blanket prohibition on genealogies, because otherwise we would have scripture

00:23:10 – 00:23:17:	condemning scripture. Because Matthew 1, 1 is Biblas, Ganesi, Oceas, Ocresto, Huyo, Dawid, Huyo,

00:23:18 – 00:23:24:	the book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham, the genealogy

00:23:24 – 00:23:33:	matters. God's promises have reference. God makes promises to individuals, to groups, to nations,

00:23:34 – 00:23:40:	to all of mankind, depending on the particular promise. So the Messiah promised to Adam and Eve,

00:23:40 – 00:23:45:	the seed shall crush the serpent's head. The Messiah promised to come from Abraham,

00:23:45 – 00:23:51:	the Messiah promised to come from David. This is God making promises to individuals,

00:23:51 – 00:23:58:	but they will have progeny from which will come the eventual Messiah to peoples, because it is

00:23:58 – 00:24:06:	promised to this people, the Messiah will come from them. God very clearly cares about genealogies.

00:24:06 – 00:24:11:	And another way we know this is the fourth commandment. Thou shalt honor thy father and

00:24:11 – 00:24:16:	thy mother, that it may us go well with thee, and thou mayest lived long in the land. Yes, I know

00:24:16 – 00:24:23:	I memorized from the KGV, the older versions. But this is genealogy, being raised up to the level

00:24:23 – 00:24:30:	of God cares about it so much it's one of the ten commandments. Because as we know, honor thy

00:24:30 – 00:24:37:	father and thy mother is not just your immediate flesh and blood father and mother. It also includes

00:24:37 – 00:24:42:	your flesh and blood grandparents, your flesh and blood great-grandparents, and if you're so lucky

00:24:42 – 00:24:47:	to meet them, your great-great-grandparents. But also, all those ancestors you didn't meet,

00:24:47 – 00:24:53:	because they have bequeathed things to you that were gifts to them from God. They held them in

00:24:53 – 00:24:59:	trust and gave them to you. And so you have duties with regard to those things not to destroy them,

00:24:59 – 00:25:06:	but to pass them on to future generations. Because God actually cares about you honoring your ancestors,

00:25:06 – 00:25:12:	no it's not ancestor worship, no it's not idolatry. There is a difference between worship and

00:25:12 – 00:25:18:	honoring. Yes, when it comes to God, we worship him in part by honoring him, but we're not talking about

00:25:18 – 00:25:23:	the same concept here. Because God obviously does not command you to idolize your father and

00:25:23 – 00:25:27:	brother. He does not command you to worship them, but he does command you to honor them.

00:25:27 – 00:25:37:	That's why the reason that we're doing this episode is to make it crystal clear to our listeners

00:25:37 – 00:25:45:	that we have roots, and we'll get into this in a few minutes, but just as a preview,

00:25:45 – 00:25:52:	there's a notion today in the modern post-enlightened world that, as you mentioned,

00:25:53 – 00:26:00:	every idea is basically treated as if it's a virgin idea that doesn't matter where it came from,

00:26:00 – 00:26:04:	maybe it's good, maybe it's bad. Let's just see how it looks. Let's see how it works.

00:26:05 – 00:26:10:	People are presumed to be the same, to be a blank slate, tabula rasa.

00:26:13 – 00:26:17:	Nothing could be further from the truth. You are not a blank slate. I am not a blank slate.

00:26:18 – 00:26:24:	I am my father's seed, and he is his father's seed going back to Adam.

00:26:24 – 00:26:31:	And the reason that I am a sinner is that Adam's sinned, and his sin was passed down

00:26:31 – 00:26:39:	for all, however many hundreds of generations, until today to me in the flesh through his seed,

00:26:40 – 00:26:47:	the transmission of sinfulness, the transmission of the curses of God,

00:26:47 – 00:26:55:	in Genesis 3, occur generationally through flesh. And this is something that I think we don't

00:26:55 – 00:26:59:	even believe anymore today is Christians, because again, if everyone's a blank slate,

00:26:59 – 00:27:04:	if all you are permitted to do is judge a man by the content of his character,

00:27:05 – 00:27:11:	then you can't notice that the man is a credent, and that when the Holy Spirit said that all

00:27:11 – 00:27:16:	credence or gluttons and liars, well, I guess maybe God sinned when he said that, because that's

00:27:16 – 00:27:22:	not permissible. There may be sun credence that have good character, and so we can't know that

00:27:22 – 00:27:27:	about credence until we talk to each of them individually and make individual judgments.

00:27:28 – 00:27:37:	That's simply false. A people is a family, ideas, how come from families, they all are

00:27:37 – 00:27:44:	transmitted through time sequentially inheriting what came before them, and the reason that we're

00:27:44 – 00:27:52:	talking about roots today versus a blank slate is that when the blank slate theory was originally

00:27:52 – 00:27:57:	proposed, the first record we have, it was from Aristotle, you know, over 2,000 years ago,

00:27:59 – 00:28:04:	it was specifically a philosophical inquiry into the nature of thought itself.

00:28:05 – 00:28:13:	So originally blank slate wasn't referring to a human being with regard to their moral qualities,

00:28:13 – 00:28:19:	it was with regard to the contents of their mind. The question was, when a baby is born,

00:28:20 – 00:28:26:	what do they know? Do they inherit knowledge or do they know nothing and then whatever they absorb

00:28:26 – 00:28:34:	from the world accumulates and that helps to define them? And this was the use of blank slate,

00:28:34 – 00:28:41:	whenever it popped up across philosophers until the 1700s, when John Locke came along,

00:28:42 – 00:28:48:	he decided that it wasn't enough just to say that it was about thought, but he wanted to turn the

00:28:48 – 00:28:54:	blank slate of a human being into a moral blank slate as well, and to say that individuals

00:28:55 – 00:29:01:	we define our moral character as well by our choices and that we build up from

00:29:03 – 00:29:09:	nothing into either a good person or a bad person based on the information we receive and then

00:29:09 – 00:29:16:	the choices that we make. And that sort of self-determination is the root of libertarian thought

00:29:16 – 00:29:22:	and it's something that so many Christians have fallen for and it's really a shame because

00:29:23 – 00:29:27:	that's the argument that Satan made to even the gospel in the, sorry, in Genesis.

00:29:27 – 00:29:33:	Satan's argument to Eve was, you can be like God, you can choose to be better than you are.

00:29:33 – 00:29:39:	This obedience stuff isn't, that's not really a question. The question is, how much can you

00:29:39 – 00:29:46:	become? And that was the lie that Satan sold to Eve and she ate it up because she had not been

00:29:46 – 00:29:55:	properly categorized because Adam was not a faithful husband who kept Satan in bay and she was

00:29:55 – 00:30:02:	the weaker vessel and she fell for it and that lie has been repeated for six thousand years

00:30:02 – 00:30:07:	and it keeps getting repackaged and people keep swallowing it because they don't look at its

00:30:07 – 00:30:13:	origin. Once you understand the form of the argument that you can be as God, once you,

00:30:14 – 00:30:19:	when you get a whiff of that it should terrify and you should run screaming and you should

00:30:20 – 00:30:25:	silence whoever is bringing that argument to you because that person is Satan's vessel.

00:30:26 – 00:30:34:	A person is there as an emissary for the devil and we don't have any concept of that today.

00:30:34 – 00:30:40:	We don't have any discernment when we look at ideas. We just think about it in pragmatic terms

00:30:40 – 00:30:46:	because we assume that all since all people are blank slates and all these ideas are blank slates

00:30:46 – 00:30:50:	when a Christian comes to you with some new idea that they heard,

00:30:51 – 00:30:55:	their arguments are going to be, well, here's the pragmatic value to it. Let's see if we can make

00:30:55 – 00:31:00:	this work and then let's see if we can find it in scripture and if you can go back to scripture

00:31:00 – 00:31:06:	and sort of import some Bible verses and proof text and say, okay, here we go. Now we have officially

00:31:06 – 00:31:11:	sanctified this brand new idea that no Christian, no believer for 6,000 years of ever held,

00:31:11 – 00:31:16:	we now hold it and we've now justified it in view of scripture. Ta-da, it's Christian.

00:31:17 – 00:31:25:	No. Absolutely not. That idea has roots that are not from God because if the roots were from God,

00:31:26 – 00:31:34:	other believers would have held it too. This is the essence of, I mentioned this last week,

00:31:36 – 00:31:44:	Lutherans in particular, and I think the post-reformation believers in general are extremely vulnerable

00:31:44 – 00:31:54:	to resisting any notion that if you make an argument from the historicity of a fact, you're somehow

00:31:55 – 00:32:00:	going to turn into a Papist because when Rome made arguments about, well, no one's ever

00:32:00 – 00:32:04:	believed this. We've done this for hundreds of years and thousands of years. This is the official

00:32:04 – 00:32:14:	teaching. It's our tradition. You can't do otherwise. It wasn't that that was a bad argument. It was

00:32:14 – 00:32:20:	that it was a false argument when Rome said that the teachings on justification that Luther

00:32:20 – 00:32:29:	found in Romans were not historically accurate, they were lying. They were lying in the Lutherans

00:32:29 – 00:32:33:	of that day and others went back to the early church fathers and found that they all believed

00:32:33 – 00:32:40:	those things. Then they were lost at some point. New ideas were imported and they became sanctified

00:32:40 – 00:32:45:	by everyone repeating the same lies over and over again. Then eventually the inheritance became

00:32:46 – 00:32:52:	such that no one could remember what was originally taught and people stopped looking at scripture

00:32:52 – 00:32:58:	as the source. That's the error that every Christian must resist. Tradition is not the principal

00:32:58 – 00:33:07:	argument, but tradition is substantiation for a claim. If you claim that something is scriptural,

00:33:07 – 00:33:14:	you are tacitly claiming and really you're implicitly claiming one of two things. Either you have

00:33:14 – 00:33:19:	discovered something that all Christians didn't believe, they sinned by in disbelieving it,

00:33:20 – 00:33:26:	and you are condemning every forefather in the faith. All of your ancestors who held to the Christian

00:33:26 – 00:33:32:	faith, they sinned by not believing the thing that you're saying they should have believed.

00:33:32 – 00:33:39:	The you now believe and the you're saying is coming from God. It's conceivable that that's true,

00:33:39 – 00:33:44:	but if that's an argument that's to be made, it must be made out in public. You can't just say,

00:33:44 – 00:33:49:	well, Luther said mean things about the certain group and that was evil. Well, the Luther was

00:33:49 – 00:33:54:	unrepentant. Did he go to hell for it? He never repented for the things that he said about certain

00:33:54 – 00:33:59:	people groups. Neither did Walter, neither did all these other men. They went to their graves,

00:34:00 – 00:34:06:	boldly proclaiming in Christ's name, things that are today called sinful.

00:34:06 – 00:34:12:	And so the reason we're talking about the genealogy of ideas, the roots of these ideas is that

00:34:13 – 00:34:20:	if you got something brand new, you got to admit it's new and you have to explain to everyone

00:34:20 – 00:34:27:	why this new thing that you're trying to sell is consistent with what the Christian church is

00:34:27 – 00:34:33:	always held. And if you can't do that, you should be silent. And that's the reason we're spending

00:34:33 – 00:34:39:	so much time on talking about the scriptural basis for talking about this in this way is that

00:34:40 – 00:34:44:	we want to make sure that we're not guilty of that, which we are challenging elsewhere in the

00:34:44 – 00:34:52:	church. If we say something and we can't back it out from what God says, we should be silent.

00:34:53 – 00:34:56:	What we're saying is that the idea that where something came from

00:34:57 – 00:35:06:	has an inherent moral tenor is scriptural, the saying that where a man came from,

00:35:06 – 00:35:14:	who his ancestors were, shapes who he is, not who he might be, but who he is apart from his own will.

00:35:15 – 00:35:19:	That's something that's never been controversial in all of human history until the last

00:35:19 – 00:35:24:	couple hundred years. And today it's something that will get you expelled from churches. It will get

00:35:24 – 00:35:30:	you fired from your job. It will get you completely destroyed in our modern world

00:35:31 – 00:35:36:	for saying what Christians have always said until recently. And so it's incredibly important to

00:35:36 – 00:35:42:	deal with this issue of what are these ideas based on? Where did they come from? Where are their

00:35:42 – 00:35:47:	roots? Because if you're getting ideas that are rooted in false teachings,

00:35:48 – 00:35:55:	you're serving Satan. There's no other way to put it. In the future we will do a general

00:35:55 – 00:36:01:	episode just on truth. But there are two points that I hammer every time I get the chance.

00:36:01 – 00:36:09:	One is that Satan is the father of lies. Not just lies about John 316. Satan is not only the

00:36:09 – 00:36:17:	father of lies about how you go to heaven. Satan is the father of every single lie.

00:36:17 – 00:36:23:	And Satan doesn't care which lie you adopt. You can love Jesus and you can think the cross is

00:36:23 – 00:36:29:	great and you can be delighted at the prospect of going to heaven. And if you start embracing lies

00:36:29 – 00:36:36:	that are contrary to what Scripture says, that are contrary to reality, you are also embracing

00:36:36 – 00:36:42:	Satan. Even while you're embracing Jesus, this is something that's pointed out in 1 Timothy 5,

00:36:42 – 00:36:49:	where there are a couple examples of what Paul calls teachings of demons. And if you look at them,

00:36:49 – 00:36:56:	it's abstention for meeting certain meats and it's trivialities. It's something that we would never

00:36:56 – 00:37:02:	call heresy or blasphemy today. We would say, well, I don't know. Maybe that's okay. Paul says

00:37:02 – 00:37:08:	those are teachings of demons. And he says it because Satan is the father of lies. And when

00:37:08 – 00:37:14:	the demons go out and they spread these lies, it's the little stuff. It's the penny any stuff

00:37:14 – 00:37:20:	that no one cares about because even if you're wrong, it's no big deal. I'm still focused on

00:37:20 – 00:37:26:	the cross. So I'm going to be fine. Satan knows that's not true. And so does God. And the battle

00:37:26 – 00:37:34:	ground that we all face today. Again, it goes back to Genesis. It goes back to the lies that Satan

00:37:34 – 00:37:42:	told Eve, but it's also a constantly evolving battle where the lies are changing periodically.

00:37:42 – 00:37:47:	The approaches are changing. And as the world becomes worse, as fewer and fewer people,

00:37:47 – 00:37:53:	care what Scripture says or even acknowledge that God exists, the easier it is for Satan to use

00:37:54 – 00:38:02:	these small lies as huge wedges to divide us from our own own salvation. And that is why this fight

00:38:02 – 00:38:07:	is worth fighting. It's why it's worth mentioning these things because as long as people are willing

00:38:07 – 00:38:15:	to disregard the history of ideas and just look at them in a vacuum and adopt them wholesale,

00:38:15 – 00:38:23:	if they can somehow find justification in Scripture through proof texting, we will lose the church.

00:38:23 – 00:38:31:	We will lose souls to Satan. It happens every day. And I don't have examples to provide, but

00:38:33 – 00:38:37:	you see this happening over and over again, where someone on Twitter or elsewhere,

00:38:37 – 00:38:42:	just as someone who's no longer connected to the church at all will say, I used to believe,

00:38:42 – 00:38:50:	but then I went down this path of drugs or music or some worldly thing that when it was

00:38:50 – 00:38:55:	served first adopted by that person, it didn't seem like a big deal. And they will give those things

00:38:55 – 00:39:00:	credit for separating their souls from God. And they'll say, and I don't care, I'm glad I'm

00:39:00 – 00:39:07:	glad I'm done with the church. I hated that part of my life. It was terrible. I was abused

00:39:08 – 00:39:16:	spiritually. And I thank no one because there is no God. I am thankful to have been freed from

00:39:16 – 00:39:23:	the shackles of all of those Christians trying to tell me how to live. That's the end game for

00:39:23 – 00:39:30:	adopting these little lies. And so it's vital that people take the notion of where did that idea

00:39:30 – 00:39:38:	come from seriously. If you don't, you are wide open for deception from all directions.

00:39:38 – 00:39:47:	There's a form of fishing where you tie a bunch of hooks along a single line and then you toss

00:39:47 – 00:39:55:	that line out. Now as a fisherman, you don't care which hook the fish bites. Because if he bites

00:39:55 – 00:40:02:	any hook, you caught the fish. Satan is the same way with his deceptions. If he can get you on

00:40:03 – 00:40:08:	anything, he's going to try to reel you in. And then you'll get you on something else and

00:40:08 – 00:40:14:	something else. Because once you've bought into one lie, it's easier to get you to buy into

00:40:14 – 00:40:22:	the next lie. It's the same thing as when a large company takes over a market. And I guess I'll

00:40:22 – 00:40:30:	delve into my specialty here for a brief moment. One of the problems with a monopoly is that a

00:40:30 – 00:40:37:	monopoly can use its power in one market to leverage itself into an adjacent market and take over.

00:40:37 – 00:40:44:	And Satan does the same thing with lies with deception. If he can get you to believe one,

00:40:44 – 00:40:50:	he will use that belief in that one to undermine your belief in some other truth and then get you

00:40:50 – 00:40:57:	to accept another lie, another deception. And you just find yourself more and more mired, more

00:40:57 – 00:41:03:	and deeper stuck in this morass. And so you cannot give him that foothold. If you give Satan a toe

00:41:03 – 00:41:12:	hold, he's never going away. He's going to keep trying to grasp at more. And that is how falsehood

00:41:12 – 00:41:19:	works. If you believe a lie, you are, it is a sin first off because you are believing something

00:41:19 – 00:41:23:	that is false, depending on the falsehood you believe. Of course, if I simply have a mistaken

00:41:23 – 00:41:28:	belief, I believe my dog is in the next room when he's actually at my feet. That's not a sin,

00:41:28 – 00:41:34:	that's a mistake. But if I believe something false about God, about God's creation, about the truth,

00:41:34 – 00:41:43:	that's sinful. And believing that opens me up to other attacks. Now, on the topic of traditions,

00:41:43 – 00:41:50:	can't say how many times I have encountered those who will say, well, we both agree that Jesus

00:41:50 – 00:41:57:	died. And so we're both saved and all this other stuff doesn't matter. And that's just an insane

00:41:57 – 00:42:03:	position to take. And we know that because yes, so tearyology matters, yes, the gospel matters,

00:42:03 – 00:42:11:	yes, this is the core of our faith, yes, article four, justification, all important. But if you get

00:42:11 – 00:42:17:	that right and everything else wrong, the odds of you remaining a Christian are very slim because

00:42:18 – 00:42:24:	you can't hold on to that one truth in the face of this storm of lies and deceit. You will eventually

00:42:24 – 00:42:33:	lose that too. And that's what happened with Rome. Rome slowly adopted a little lie here, a little

00:42:33 – 00:42:42:	mistake there. This cult of Mary here, this synchrotistic practice there. And Rome lost the gospel

00:42:42 – 00:42:48:	because of it. And it's the same thing the Jews did in the Old Testament. Oh, we'll just adopt

00:42:48 – 00:42:53:	this particular form of worship on this high place from this Canaanite tribe. It'll be fine.

00:42:54 – 00:43:00:	And then another and another. And all of a sudden, you don't even know where the Torah is anymore.

00:43:00 – 00:43:06:	You've literally lost the scriptures. That is what Satan wants. And he's good at this game. He's

00:43:06 – 00:43:14:	been playing it for a very long time. And he has a lot of time on his hands. So the goal here is

00:43:14 – 00:43:23:	it to out with Satan. The goal is to stand steadfast on the truth and rely on God. And to rely on God,

00:43:23 – 00:43:28:	we need to believe true things about God instead of all these lies from the world,

00:43:29 – 00:43:35:	instead of, you know, Rawls veil of ignorance and all of the various underpinnings of libertarian

00:43:35 – 00:43:43:	thought, which when you start to compare them, libertarianism and Satanism look a lot alike.

00:43:44 – 00:43:48:	And that should deeply worry Christians. And also there's quite a bit of overlap with

00:43:48 – 00:43:56:	individuals involved in the two. Because what is the core command as it were, the rule in Satanism?

00:43:57 – 00:44:04:	Do is thou wilt and thou shall be the whole of the law. Well, libertarianism is pretty much the

00:44:04 – 00:44:11:	same thing. It's do whatever you want, but don't harm others. Typically is the formulation

00:44:11 – 00:44:16:	something along those lines. And Satanism has other additional rules that basically say, well, don't

00:44:16 – 00:44:22:	harm others. You know, don't take what they say seriously. But it should worry Christians that

00:44:22 – 00:44:29:	these are the same things being said by libertarianism, which is construed as well as just a political

00:44:29 – 00:44:35:	ideology. It's just a theory. We're permitted to accept that because again, they don't look at

00:44:35 – 00:44:42:	the genealogy of these ideas. And Satanism, which obviously most Christians, I would hope,

00:44:42 – 00:44:46:	will be able to say, well, obviously we can't accept that. But if they're saying the same thing,

00:44:47 – 00:44:51:	why are you accepting one and not the other? Why don't you look at the genesis of these things

00:44:51 – 00:44:58:	to give a concrete example just to make some people particularly uncomfortable? How about Harry Potter?

00:44:59 – 00:45:03:	Did you let your children read that book? Do you have it in your house? Have you watched the movies?

00:45:04 – 00:45:10:	Do you support these things? Well, the author of that book for a very long time, her social media

00:45:10 – 00:45:19:	background was tarot cards from Crowley's deck, open, outright, blunt Satanism. And so you are

00:45:19 – 00:45:25:	exposing your children to things that have literal black magic, satanic magic in them

00:45:26 – 00:45:34:	because you didn't pay attention to the genealogy. You did not pay attention to once this particular

00:45:34 – 00:45:40:	work came. The author matters. So look into the author. Well, the author is involved in the occult.

00:45:41 – 00:45:47:	If this author involved in the occult, promoting occult practices and having all sorts of occult

00:45:47 – 00:45:54:	images, if she is the one who wrote it, you should probably be worried about providing that to your

00:45:54 – 00:46:02:	children. It's not just a cutesy story about wizards. That's not what it is. Pay attention to the

00:46:02 – 00:46:07:	source of the materials you are ingesting and you are providing for your children.

00:46:09 – 00:46:15:	And it's important when people here look at the source that we're talking about the original

00:46:15 – 00:46:24:	source. So it may well be that your pastor pushes libertarians or says the Harry Potter is

00:46:24 – 00:46:31:	fine or shares books with you in your congregation that should never be shared or read by any Christian

00:46:31 – 00:46:38:	because of their origins. We're saying to look past the past or regardless of his intentions.

00:46:38 – 00:46:44:	If he's doing those things and he is an heir, that is grievous sin on his part. But it's grievous

00:46:44 – 00:46:51:	sin not because he is aware that he is doing something evil. It's evil because he doesn't realize

00:46:51 – 00:46:59:	he's doing something evil. And he is giving it his impromotor. He is blessing and sanctifying

00:46:59 – 00:47:06:	things which are evil, which are satanic, which are demonic wise. He is saying in the name of God,

00:47:06 – 00:47:11:	I tell you, you're fine to eat this or to read this or to listen to this. It's not going to hurt you.

00:47:13 – 00:47:19:	You raise an important point here and that is whether or not intent matters.

00:47:19 – 00:47:24:	The answer to that is kind of like our answer to whether or not baptism is absolutely necessary.

00:47:24 – 00:47:34:	Does intent matter? No, but yes, but no. And intent doesn't matter in the sense that an act

00:47:34 – 00:47:42:	can be evil itself, in and of itself, regardless of intent. Intent is an additional sin potentially

00:47:42 – 00:47:49:	on top of that. So what does it say about the fall? What does scripture say about Eve? She was

00:47:49 – 00:47:55:	deceived. Did she intend to sin? It says she was deceived. She misunderstood. She did not know

00:47:55 – 00:48:01:	what was happening. It doesn't say that of Adam notably, but Eve was deceived was what she did

00:48:01 – 00:48:08:	still sin. Absolutely. The intent does not always matter. Acts themselves can be evil.

00:48:09 – 00:48:18:	And when we propagate them, we can't make them clean because we're Christian. And I think this is

00:48:18 – 00:48:25:	where a lot of people break down is that we have a notion that people hear the term Christian

00:48:25 – 00:48:29:	freedom and they don't know what it means or what where it came from, but it sounds pretty good,

00:48:29 – 00:48:35:	so they're just going to run with it and make it whatever they want it to mean. And people think that

00:48:36 – 00:48:39:	if you confess that Jesus is God and you know that he died for your sins,

00:48:41 – 00:48:48:	then as long as you're not deliberately sinning too much, you're going to be okay. And while there is

00:48:50 – 00:48:55:	there is a way in which it is possible to say that that is true, it should never be

00:48:57 – 00:49:04:	what anyone clings to. You you had mentioned talk earlier about where things come from and

00:49:05 – 00:49:10:	who says things first. I think it's very important to point out to people who like to cling to

00:49:10 – 00:49:19:	the verses about whoever confesses Jesus will be saved. Yes, that's true. But remember this,

00:49:19 – 00:49:25:	the very first confession in all of scripture, in all of history, the very first time that anyone

00:49:25 – 00:49:32:	said, Jesus is the Holy One of God. It was a demon. In Luke four, there was a man who had a demon

00:49:32 – 00:49:38:	and he screamed at Jesus. What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy

00:49:38 – 00:49:43:	us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God. Now that was a confession of Jesus as the Christ

00:49:44 – 00:49:50:	was it salvific? No. And it wasn't just because it was a demon speaking. It was not salvific because

00:49:52 – 00:49:58:	it was a confession in the sense that it was anguish. It was terror. And it was a confession that

00:49:58 – 00:50:04:	the demon in opposition to God knew that God was superior, superior, infinitely so. And so he knew

00:50:04 – 00:50:11:	that when Jesus the Christ came to him, he was powerless and he was an anguish as a result. But he

00:50:11 – 00:50:17:	did say Jesus was God. And I think that far too many people who call themselves Christians today

00:50:18 – 00:50:23:	genuinely believe that all someone has to do is cry Lord, Lord. And that's the end of it. And

00:50:23 – 00:50:30:	we're going to talk probably in virtually every episode about satireology, which is how we're saved

00:50:31 – 00:50:40:	in contra distinction to the Christian life after salvation because this is where Protestant

00:50:40 – 00:50:48:	theology really gets into trouble. We spent so much time battling Rome's semi-pollegion teachings

00:50:49 – 00:50:53:	you can save yourself in part. You know, Jesus did some work on the cross, but you got to do good

00:50:53 – 00:50:59:	works. You have to buy the indulgences. You have to make the pilgrimages. You have to do certain

00:50:59 – 00:51:06:	confessions as a wrote right not as a confession of I confess that I am a sinner, but you must perform

00:51:06 – 00:51:13:	these acts in order to be saved. No Christian can believe that. And we are never arguing that.

00:51:13 – 00:51:20:	Anytime you hear Corey or I talking about what we must do, it is in the sense of when James

00:51:20 – 00:51:27:	was writing to the believers to the church. He was not addressing people who were not Christians,

00:51:27 – 00:51:33:	who were trying to discover how to come to faith. James wrote his epistle to an established

00:51:33 – 00:51:39:	congregation filled with believers, addressing believers and telling them, here's what the Christian

00:51:40 – 00:51:47:	life looks like. That's what you and I are doing with this podcast. We are talking to believers,

00:51:47 – 00:51:52:	like I'd be thrilled if someone who wasn't a Christian who didn't know Jesus listened as well.

00:51:52 – 00:51:58:	I hope that there would be something that would resonate in their minds to hear that, yeah,

00:51:58 – 00:52:02:	there are actually Christians who don't sound completely gotless when they talk about this stuff

00:52:02 – 00:52:08:	because we don't have a gotless God. We have a God of strength and compassion and mercy and infinite

00:52:08 – 00:52:15:	love and infinite patience and infinite wrath. And each of those things must be emphasized at

00:52:15 – 00:52:21:	different times for different purposes. But modern Christianity has just kind of become afraid of

00:52:21 – 00:52:29:	emphasizing the parts that scare people. Never mind the fact that the fear of the Lord is a virtue

00:52:29 – 00:52:36:	of a Christian. It is a virtue of a believer in not fear. We don't even think about that. What

00:52:36 – 00:52:44:	that word is means what it says. It means terror. Not that the thought of God should terrorize us

00:52:44 – 00:52:53:	at all times, but that the recognition that we as fallen sinful creatures have lived and behaved

00:52:53 – 00:52:59:	in ways that is contrary to our Creator's will and that he has infinite power should give us a

00:52:59 – 00:53:05:	sense of terror, which is what makes the comfort of the gospel all the sweeter because we know we

00:53:06 – 00:53:10:	don't deserve it. We know we haven't earned it. We know that there's nothing we could ever do to

00:53:10 – 00:53:18:	merit it. And God gave it to us freely because his love is as great as his wrath. But on judgment day,

00:53:18 – 00:53:25:	there's going to be just as much wrath poured out as love. And given that the narrow gate is the one

00:53:25 – 00:53:30:	through which we as believers have passed, the white gate is going to, you know, by volume,

00:53:30 – 00:53:35:	there's going to be a lot more wrath passed on on judgment day than there is love. And that's not

00:53:35 – 00:53:45:	because God is not a loving God. It is because we as believers and as humans have, in many cases,

00:53:45 – 00:53:52:	failed to hear God's call. And we're going to do future episodes on Christian nationalism and

00:53:52 – 00:53:56:	on race in particular. And so a lot of the things that we've discussed today will be themes

00:53:56 – 00:54:03:	that are going to recur because all of this is really one big argument pointing back to scripture

00:54:03 – 00:54:12:	to make the case that the way that God has arranged the world is when we obey God, when we do what

00:54:12 – 00:54:18:	God says and when we believe what He teaches, we are blessed by it and going back to the earlier

00:54:18 – 00:54:26:	promise of, actually, I guess we didn't mention it in this episode, but God promises to visit the

00:54:26 – 00:54:33:	wrath under the third and fourth generations of them that hate him is a is an American that's not

00:54:33 – 00:54:38:	fair. Why would a great grandchild be punished for what the great grandfather did? That's just not

00:54:38 – 00:54:46:	fair at all. The grand kid didn't do anything. Well, it's for the same reason that I inherit Adam's

00:54:46 – 00:54:54:	sin because I came from his seed. Is that fair? Who cares? That's not a Christian principle. Fairness

00:54:54 – 00:55:02:	is not something that is applied in the Christian life at all. It is a fundamentally unfair religion

00:55:02 – 00:55:08:	where we are spared the eternal consequences of all of the wrath that we are every day for the

00:55:08 – 00:55:16:	evil that we do, both knowingly and unknowingly. Fairness is basically along with niceness. One of

00:55:16 – 00:55:26:	the idols, one of the actual gods of most Americans. And I always love when people make the appeal

00:55:27 – 00:55:33:	to children as being some sort of arbiters of morality because, well, even children understand

00:55:33 – 00:55:41:	fairness, one they really don't because if you actually look at the use of that isn't fair,

00:55:41 – 00:55:46:	when it comes to children, it's generally the child making an argument that he didn't get

00:55:46 – 00:55:51:	something. The that isn't fair is almost never used when he got something and someone else didn't.

00:55:52 – 00:55:59:	But also appealing to children is just completely ridiculous. Why would you appeal

00:56:01 – 00:56:07:	to this sort of understanding and morality in children when these are creatures that were not

00:56:07 – 00:56:12:	so long ago chasing their other siblings with a stick and trying to stab them? Like the morality

00:56:12 – 00:56:17:	of children is not a developed thing. Yes, there's a degree to which the law is written in all

00:56:17 – 00:56:24:	human beings, but there's a development there before you can really understand these things. And so

00:56:24 – 00:56:28:	it's just it's a ridiculous silly argument that so many people will try to make fairness isn't a

00:56:28 – 00:56:36:	thing. Fairness is nonsense drawn up by the enlightenment and various philosophers and then

00:56:36 – 00:56:41:	imported into the culture and then unfortunately imported into the church because many Christians

00:56:41 – 00:56:46:	blindly believe it because again, they don't look to the genealogy of the things they profess.

00:56:47 – 00:56:52:	But then there's one other bit of irony that I'd like to bring up because I just find it funny.

00:56:54 – 00:56:59:	The Jews in Christ time got so many things about him wrong. Yes, there were those who followed him,

00:56:59 – 00:57:06:	he had disciples, some of them understood, to some degree varying degrees. But in his hometown,

00:57:07 – 00:57:11:	they didn't understand that he was the Messiah, not even his own family understood that he was the

00:57:11 – 00:57:20:	Messiah. But the Jews in his hometown did get something right and I'm going to turn to Matthew 13.

00:57:21 – 00:57:27:	And when Jesus had finished these parables, he went away from there and coming to his hometown,

00:57:27 – 00:57:32:	he taught them in their synagogue so that they were astonished and said, where did this man get

00:57:32 – 00:57:38:	this wisdom and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son, is not his mother called Mary,

00:57:38 – 00:57:43:	and are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas, and are not all his sisters with us?

00:57:43 – 00:57:49:	Where then did this man get all these things? And they took offense at him, but Jesus said to them,

00:57:49 – 00:57:54:	a prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and his own household. And he did not do many

00:57:54 – 00:58:01:	mighty works there because of their unbelief. Did you catch what the Jews said about him?

00:58:02 – 00:58:07:	Where did this man get this wisdom and these mighty works? And then is not this the carpenter's son?

00:58:07 – 00:58:14:	They understood implicitly that the genealogy mattered and they should understand that living

00:58:14 – 00:58:20:	where and when they did because they should have been told what their ancestors had done by importing

00:58:20 – 00:58:26:	false beliefs, false religion, false practices from the surrounding nations that worshiped demons.

00:58:27 – 00:58:32:	They would implicitly understand this genealogy matters. They wanted to know he's speaking with

00:58:32 – 00:58:37:	authority, but where did he learn these things? What's the genealogy these ideas?

00:58:38 – 00:58:44:	They got the answer completely wrong when it comes to the fact that he got them from God because he

00:58:44 – 00:58:51:	is God. But they understood the general concept and it's so funny to me that these people who got

00:58:51 – 00:58:56:	almost everything else wrong happen to get this one vitally important thing right. But again,

00:58:56 – 00:59:02:	it does show that you can get one vitally important thing right, say, satiriology, and get a lot of

00:59:02 – 00:59:08:	other things wrong and look at where these people most likely ended up in many cases.

00:59:09 – 00:59:15:	That's a good point and I think that they got it right because the only reason we don't get it

00:59:15 – 00:59:21:	right today has been it's been beaten out of us. It's not an evolution or a greater understanding

00:59:21 – 00:59:29:	that the Western mind has today. It's a devolution. It's a losing the basic connection with

00:59:29 – 00:59:36:	created reality. And we've all fallen victim to what I have. I've fallen for lies in the past and

00:59:36 – 00:59:40:	I've adopted beliefs that were false. And I did so with a clean conscience because I didn't

00:59:42 – 00:59:46:	I didn't examine the priors and the givens, which is why it's so important to meet a warn others.

00:59:47 – 00:59:52:	As we wrap this episode up, I want to tie this back to the first episode where we were talking

00:59:52 – 00:59:59:	about girls teaching. I neglected the mention this in the in the previous episode, but there's a

59:59 – 01:00:04
man online named Matt Cochran who's a brilliant man. He's a very clear thinker and outstanding

01:00:04 – 01:00:11:	writer. We'll I'll link his blog in the show notes. He made a great point that it was was

01:00:11 – 01:00:17:	completely missing from all of the conversation about whether girls should be teaching theology by

01:00:17 – 01:00:25:	writing books. All of the opponents, including now the majority of pastors who call themselves

01:00:25 – 01:00:31:	confessional Lutherans, who have aligned themselves on the side of girls teaching theology,

01:00:31 – 01:00:39:	do so by pointing to various passages and scripture that have been found just in the 20th century

01:00:39 – 01:00:45:	to justify these things. The point that Matt made on his blog was that there is actually a

01:00:45 – 01:00:52:	particular passage in scripture that tells girls to teach where God specifically commands the

01:00:52 – 01:00:58:	female to teach. And I want to read it to you because it's hilarious because none of the pastors

01:00:58 – 01:01:05:	who are quoting all the other scriptural passages is proof text to justify these girls teaching.

01:01:05 – 01:01:11:	They don't believe this passage. Listen to this from Titus 2, older women likewise are to be

01:01:11 – 01:01:17:	reverent in behavior, not slanders or slaves to much wine. They're to teach what is good and so

01:01:17 – 01:01:24:	train the young women to love their husbands and children. To be self-controlled, pure, working

01:01:24 – 01:01:31:	at home, kind and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

01:01:32 – 01:01:39:	Now show me a single pastor who's cheerleading CPH, publishing books of girls teaching,

01:01:39 – 01:01:44:	25-year-old girls teaching theology to pastors. Find a single one of them that believes this.

01:01:44 – 01:01:49:	They can't because they stand condemned by the very verse, very verse which says that these

01:01:49 – 01:01:57:	women should be at home. Now it's interesting about this. I found on Google Books last week,

01:01:57 – 01:02:02:	I'll put this in the show notes as well. I was looking for the history of deaconesses and the

01:02:02 – 01:02:08:	like in the church just because I was curious, you know, are you and I crazy or are we the novelty

01:02:08 – 01:02:16:	seekers who are trying to end a proud church tradition? And so I found a book from the 1700s by a

01:02:16 – 01:02:23:	Catholic writer, the 12th chapter of the book is now it's 30 pages or so. It basically gives the

01:02:23 – 01:02:30:	entire history of the service of women in the church. And it begins with the first, second,

01:02:30 – 01:02:36:	third century where there were in fact women who were called deaconesses. But when it gives

01:02:36 – 01:02:42:	a description of what those deaconesses did, it was tight as two. Some of the original restrictions

01:02:42 – 01:02:47:	were that the woman had to be over 60. That meant that she was menopausal. That meant she was

01:02:47 – 01:02:55:	probably a great grandmother, certainly a grandmother. And it meant that she was no longer serving in

01:02:55 – 01:03:03:	the home the way she had when she was a mother. These older women who were the youngest permissible

01:03:03 – 01:03:11:	age was 40, to be a deaconess, to privately teach and categorize other girls only. So it was

01:03:11 – 01:03:18:	private. It was only limited to girls being taught. And it was only older women, which was a

01:03:18 – 01:03:26:	direct reflection of this dictum in Titus 2. Now with the reason we talk about the genealogies of

01:03:26 – 01:03:32:	ideas, that's I think a perfect microcosm in the entire discussion about whether girls could be

01:03:32 – 01:03:38:	writing theological books, not one pastor who used scripture used this verse because this verse

01:03:38 – 01:03:44:	condemns them. It condemns the men who say the girls should be teaching when they're 25-year-olds

01:03:44 – 01:03:51:	in public teaching pastors and other Christians. There's simply no permissible Christian argument

01:03:51 – 01:03:56:	for it. And so what do they do? On one hand, they're confessional guys, they're Lutherans,

01:03:56 – 01:04:01:	they're Christian, they're huge as solo scriptura. But when they find a verse they don't like,

01:04:01 – 01:04:07:	well that's not what that means. Did God really say, no, we have a better idea, we have a new idea

01:04:07 – 01:04:12:	that we're going to pretend as an old idea so that we can cause something to happen in the church

01:04:12 – 01:04:18:	that has never happened in its entire history. And that needs to end because that is Satan,

01:04:18 – 01:04:23:	chipping and chipping and chipping away until we will have nothing else. We think we can cling to

01:04:23 – 01:04:28:	the cross when we despise Christ's words. If you are ashamed of God, he will be ashamed of you

01:04:28 – 01:04:35:	on judgment day. And I pray that no man would feel that way because in the final judgment,

01:04:35 – 01:04:40:	it will be perfectly just and there will be many you cry out and say that there were Christians

01:04:40 – 01:04:47:	and God will say, no, you weren't. And that should fill any man with terror if he is acting in a way

01:04:47 – 01:04:52:	that is with a clean conscience and is contrary to scripture. That's all I can say to anyone.

01:04:54 – 01:05:00:	I think there's another verse that we probably will never see the adversaries quoting and that

01:05:00 – 01:05:07:	would of course be the first verse of the curse God spoke to Adam in Genesis because you have

01:05:07 – 01:05:15:	listened to the voice of your wife. And that is of course repeated other places in scripture and

01:05:15 – 01:05:21:	that is harkening back of course to headship. Adam is cursed in part because he abdicated

01:05:22 – 01:05:30:	but Eve usurped it both sinned neither is acceptable and women teaching in public

01:05:31 – 01:05:39:	is a usurpation of the proper role of head whether it be their husband, pastor, someone else in the

01:05:39 – 01:05:45:	church. This is not a proper role for women. It is not what scripture permits them to do. It is

01:05:45 – 01:05:53:	sinful to permit it and we absolutely need to eliminate it because we have to be true

01:05:54 – 01:05:58:	to the word of God. What God has commanded us to do and not to do.

01:06:01 – 01:06:10:	I agree. These are battles that we are fighting because we don't see them being fought by one

01:06:11 – 01:06:17:	anyone else. There are pastors who are faithful and pastors who understand some of these things

01:06:17 – 01:06:23:	but in most cases they're afraid to speak publicly. The only pastors who are not afraid to speak

01:06:23 – 01:06:30:	publicly against what we are saying do so slanderously and they do so with murder in their hearts

01:06:30 – 01:06:38:	and they do so in concert with the world and it's sad to see that happen but neither of us can

01:06:38 – 01:06:44:	be remotely surprised by it because again we believe scripture. We believe God's blessings that those

01:06:44 – 01:06:50:	who are God's promises and blessings to be hated for the sake of Christ's name is a blessing.

01:06:51 – 01:06:56:	Some days it doesn't feel like it but that is often how God's blessings work. The thing that

01:06:56 – 01:07:02:	that hurts the most in the moment may be the thing that God is using for the greatest benefit

01:07:02 – 01:07:11:	to an individual. I encourage everyone to look to where things are coming from to look at the roots

01:07:11 – 01:07:20:	of their own ideas of what are things based on? It's a zoom or trope to call things based and it's

01:07:20 – 01:07:26:	a great word. That's based. It's not cringe. It's based. It's something that is based on something.

01:07:26 – 01:07:31:	And so the show art has a meme that I made. This is based based on what? The

01:07:32 – 01:07:39:	internal word of God, yes, absolutely based. That is our goal with everything that we speak is to

01:07:39 – 01:07:47:	do so in a manner that is based on God's words and God's promises and God will judge each of us

01:07:47 – 01:07:53:	for what we have done and for what we have failed to do and thank God that all the evil that we do

01:07:53 – 01:07:59:	is covered by Christ's blood and the good that we do is to His glory. But in every life,

01:07:59 – 01:08:06:	there is the opportunity to do less evil and to do more good and that is a conscious choice for

01:08:06 – 01:08:14:	the believer. But it can only be made as a conscious choice when the believer is actually thinking

01:08:14 – 01:08:21:	about it. So I hope that everyone will spend more time in the word and to spend time in faithful

01:08:21 – 01:08:27:	churches where they are hearing the word rightly preached and the sacraments properly administered

01:08:28 – 01:08:34:	and to always focus on what God wants because that is a blessing. The law is not only a curse

01:08:34 – 01:08:40:	against us, but it is a guidepost to show us how to live the life that God intended for us to live

01:08:40 – 01:08:45:	in the first place. And although we can never do it perfectly in this life, we can do it better

01:08:45 – 01:08:51:	than we would have if we weren't thinking about what God wants. We often take that Lex Semper

01:08:51 – 01:09:00:	Akhusat a little too far. We morph it instead until Lex Sola Akhusat as it were. The law does not

01:09:00 – 01:09:06:	only accuse the law always accuses because as long as we are in this life, we are sinners.

01:09:07 – 01:09:16:	But God's law is good. God's law has real, tangible benefits. If we obey God's law and hear

01:09:16 – 01:09:22:	to his rules and his truth, we will simply live better lives. And of course, we don't do it simply

01:09:22 – 01:09:29:	because of the reward. We do it because it is our duty to God, but it is also we were made to do

01:09:29 – 01:09:37:	this. It is properly aligning ourselves to our teleological purpose if we at least attempt

01:09:38 – 01:09:43:	to adhere to God's laws to live our lives within the bounds that he set, recognizing that those

01:09:43 – 01:09:54:	bounds are good. And just want to make one more point before we close out this episode, a tangentially

01:09:54 – 01:10:01:	related point to the genealogy of ideas. Related to looking at the source of your ideas,

01:10:01 – 01:10:07:	the things you believe, who wrote it, who advanced it, who argues for it, look to your right,

01:10:07 – 01:10:14:	and look to your left. Who is standing with you, defending it? Because if you look to your right

01:10:14 – 01:10:20:	and you're left, and you see Satan's minions, you're probably on the wrong side of the battlefield.

01:10:20 – 01:10:29:	Absolutely. I can say for a fact that the only people on the internet who have ever hated me

01:10:30 – 01:10:38:	wanted to dox me, to cause harm to my family, to my reputation, to my career, are literal

01:10:38 – 01:10:48:	Satanists, literal pedophiles, and Lutherans. And they all use the same arguments, they all use

01:10:48 – 01:10:54:	the same words. They all get angry at the very same things that I've said to a tea. There's

01:10:54 – 01:11:00:	100% overlap between what the Satanist hates about me and what some of these Lutheran pastors

01:11:00 – 01:11:10:	hate about me. And if I were the Lutherans, that I would not be able to sleep a wink until I

01:11:10 – 01:11:16:	figured out why that was and how I could fix it. But these men, they do so with a clear conscience.

01:11:16 – 01:11:22:	And again, I hope that for the sake of their souls, they will hear our words and they'll think

01:11:22 – 01:11:30:	about these things because when you are joining in lockstep with evil men, you cannot sanctify the

01:11:30 – 01:11:36:	evil that you're doing by saying, oh yeah, I'm doing it for Jesus. And frankly, that's I think the

01:11:36 – 01:11:40:	your last comments and my last comments are a great plug for next week's episode, which is going

01:11:40 – 01:11:46:	to be about Christian nationalism because Christian nationalism is the synthesis of

01:11:46 – 01:11:56:	obedience to God, allying with God's people in opposition to evil doers because we'll have a

01:11:56 – 01:12:01:	lot to say about the tune kingdoms doctrine and the three estates. And the misrepresent

01:12:01 – 01:12:07:	representations made about things like the term Christian nationalism online. But

01:12:07 – 01:12:17:	the very same pastors who hate us are again in lockstep with the most evil people on the planet.

01:12:17 – 01:12:22:	And I'm not saying that lightly. I'm not saying the pastors in the other Lutherans and other

01:12:22 – 01:12:26:	Christians are the most evil people on the planet. I'm saying they are best friends with them

01:12:26 – 01:12:31:	on this issue and on other issues. They are in lockstep with Satan.

01:12:32 – 01:12:39:	If you care about where your ideas come from and you realize that all of your allies are the

01:12:39 – 01:12:45:	people who are going to hell pause, just hit the pause button, take a look at where you got those

01:12:45 – 01:12:52:	ideas because you are on a path to hell. And I don't want that for anyone. I don't want for the

01:12:52 – 01:12:58:	people who are going to have it happen anyway. And I certainly don't want it to happen to people

01:12:58 – 01:13:02:	who have confessed Christ in this life and who believe the creeds and the confessions

01:13:02 – 01:13:09:	and have mostly led good lives. But when it comes to these modern issues where there is silence

01:13:09 – 01:13:17:	in the historical record from the Christian Reformation on, people who adopt these new ideas

01:13:17 – 01:13:25:	find that they are bedfellows with demons. And that's only going to in one or two ways. Either

01:13:25 – 01:13:29:	you get out of bed or you are going to sleep there in eternity.