“All Sins Are Not Equal”
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Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast.
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I am Corey J. Mahler.
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And I'm woe.
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Today's episode of Stone Choir is talking about the subject of whether all sins are
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equal and following on from that, whether we are permitted to judge the sins of another.
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What does it mean to judge, particularly when scripture says judge not?
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These are both things that you hear in the mouths of many Christians today, generally
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they're liberal Christians who are trying to avoid controversy.
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They're trying to avoid any sense of accusation or claiming that one person could possibly
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be worse than another.
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That's something that Protestants in particular are extremely allergic to.
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So today what we're going to be going through is a series of verses straight from scripture.
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This is basically going to be a long Bible study where we talk about the various verses
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that make absolutely explicit that not all sins are equal, that not only are they not
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equal in God's eyes, but that they are punished unequally as well.
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Like many of our episodes, this is fundamentally an assault on the false doctrine of equality.
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There's no such thing before God at any point.
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And we'll get into the details of what we mean because obviously there are counterarguments
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that some make that we're going to demolish here, in this case dealing with the question
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of sin being equal.
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First passage we're going to talk about today is from John 19.
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It's one that we've all heard recently as we're just on the heels of Holy Week.
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So Pilate said to Jesus, you will not speak to me.
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Do you not know that I have the authority to release you and authority to crucify you?
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Jesus answered him, you would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given to
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you from above.
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Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.
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Then on Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out, if you release this man,
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you are not Caesar's friend.
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Everyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar.
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I tacked on that second part just because as a side note, in the spirit of all sins
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are equal, it's very often something that comes up in the last few years, but particularly
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on the heels during Easter of claiming that it wasn't the Jews who executed Christ, that
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it was the Romans.
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When you read the narratives of Christ's trials, it was the Jews who brought him to the Romans.
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The only reason they did murder him themselves is that they did not have the legal authority
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to do so.
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They came to Pilate and then Herod and then Pilate again, making false accusations and
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basically bullied Pilate into a corner to crucify him.
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Even though he knew he wasn't guilty, he said he wasn't guilty.
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He knew there was unjust, but for the sake of peace in his own head, because here it
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says, if you release this man, you're not Caesar's friend, is an explicit threat.
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This Pilate would be committing treason if he didn't execute Jesus.
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That's how that played out.
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When Jesus says, he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin, Jesus is naming
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the Jew.
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He is saying, the Jews who handed me over to you, Pilate, for Roman execution because
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you have the authority to execute.
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That only existed because of the disparity between the goals of the Romans and the goals
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of the Jews.
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Jesus acknowledged they had different motivations, they had different interests, and that it was
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explicitly the greater evil of the Jews who were crying for his blood and crying for Barabbas
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to be freed, even though he was a murderer.
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That was the greater sin that Jesus refers to.
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Just as a single passage, they would refute the notion that all sins can be equal just
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in one verse when Jesus says the greater sin precludes any notion that that could possibly
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be true.
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As we go through the rest of these, we'll see in greater detail how that plays out.
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Right from Holy Week itself, from Jesus' own lifts, that claim that all sins are equal
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is categorically disqualified.
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We just end there, and it's our shortest episode, right?
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Because really, if you have the direct word of Christ here saying that there is such thing
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as a greater sin, well, obviously, then there are different degrees of sin.
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There are worse sins, there are sins that are not as bad.
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Of course, all sin separates from God, and all sin is damning, but there are greater
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sins, there are greater punishments flowing from those greater sins.
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Just to emphasize what you said about the bit about Caesar's friend, because that's
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going to go past most modern readers, they're going to see that and go, okay, you're not
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a friend of Caesar, if you do this thing, fine.
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In the context, to be Caesar's friend is to be someone who is on Caesar's good side.
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To be not Caesar's friend is, as was said, to be a traitor.
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To be someone who is going to be marked for persecution and probably execution, and Pilate
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may eventually have been executed, whether as a martyr or not, we're not entirely sure
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of the history of that.
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I happen to think he probably did convert, but that's an aside.
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But obviously here, just at the outset, we have the very clear, irrefutable teaching
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that there is such a thing as a greater sin.
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And so Christians cannot say that, you know, all sins are equal, that's not true.
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All sins are not equal.
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All sins separate from God, that is true.
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Insofar as you are talking purely about the separation of man from God, all sins are equal
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in that they affect that separation.
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But all sins are not equal in the gravity of the sin, in the degree of the sin, in really
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the significance of that separation between God and man that is worked by the sin.
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This is something that in Luke 23, at Jesus' crucifixion, he parallels.
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Jesus said, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do, and they cast lots
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to devise his garments.
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That was specifically speaking of the Roman soldiers, the men who were the proximate cause
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of his hands and feet being nailed to a cross.
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He said, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
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Just as he said, this pilot's sin was the lesser sin for unjustly murdering him, for
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unjustly executing him.
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It was a murder because it was an unjust execution.
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But it was also an execution under the law, although the law had been misapplied.
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But even at that, Jesus paralleled Pilate's sin of commanding his execution, and then
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the actual executioners, the Roman soldiers who were literally at the cross, some of whom
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they witnessed what happened.
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They witnessed those miracles, as Pilate did, and he wasn't present.
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And so when Jesus said, forgive them, for they know not what they do, that is not a
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prayer that Jesus gave to the brain crowd of Jews who called for his blood.
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They knew what they were doing.
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They knew that they wanted to murder an innocent man.
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The Roman soldiers, for lack of a better phrase, they were following orders.
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What were they going to do?
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Pilate says, you execute a man, they nailed him to a cross, that's what they did.
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And so here in two verses, in the very same story, hours apart, Jesus says, there's a
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greater sin, and he says, forgive these men for the lesser sin.
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God forgive them because they don't know that they're nailing the Son of God to the
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cross.
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And we can, of course, pull out a general principle here, that a knowing sin is worse
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than an unknowing sin.
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And yes, there is such a thing as an unknowing sin.
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If you unknowingly transgress God's law, that's still a sin, but it is an unknowing sin.
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If you know God's law and deliberately transgress it, that is a knowing sin, that is a worse
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sin.
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It's, in fact, multiple sins.
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Because the act itself is sin, the guilty intent is sin, the deliberate violation of
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God's law is sin.
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You're compounding sin when you do something knowingly, as opposed to the unknowing sin,
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where you merely transgress God's law, but not deliberately.
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This of course, also deals with the difference between original sin and actual sin.
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Original sin, in this case, just meaning sins that are not original sin.
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It's just a term used in theology to differentiate the two.
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It's not saying that actual sin is actually sin and original sin is not.
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They're both sin.
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Original sin is what is inherited from our parents all the way back to Adam.
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It is inherited down the line genealogically.
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That is, sin that is a corruption of man's nature, and we sin because we are sinners,
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and we are sinners because of original sin.
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Actual sin are those sins that we then go on to commit ourselves.
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Not inherited sin, but sins that we have committed, theft, murder, adultery, whatever it happens
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to be.
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And so we see in that the difference between original and actual sin, that at the very least
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there are categories of sin.
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There are different kinds of sins, and we'll get into more of that later on in the episode.
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But again, notice the difference in this passage.
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A knowing sin, committed deliberately, committed with intent, is worse than an unknowing sin.
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And we of course have that in our civil laws.
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We recognize that.
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If you accidentally kill someone, probably not murder unless you were doing something
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incredibly negligent, then could potentially still be murder.
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But for instance, if you are driving a vehicle, and you have a medical emergency, you black
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out, you have an aneurysm, and you run over a pedestrian, that's not murder.
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It's in fact not even negligent, most likely.
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If you deliberately drive into a crowd of pedestrians, that is murder.
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So there's a difference regarding the intent, and the same thing holds here.
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The first perfect passage for dealing with deliberate sin is from Hebrews 10.
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For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there
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no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury
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of fire that will consume the adversaries.
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Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy, on the evidence of two
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or three witnesses.
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How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the one who has trampled under
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foot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified,
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and has outraged the spirit of grace?
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For we know him who said, vengeance is mine, I will repay.
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And again, the Lord will judge his people, is a fearful thing to fall into the hands
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of the living God.
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So this passage makes clear, part of the reason, perhaps the entire reason, that those Roman
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soldiers, Jesus asked for their forgiveness, was that they were not deliberately sinning.
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They were executing a convicted criminal.
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He was wrongly convicted, but that was above their pay grade.
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They had an order, and they followed it.
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Their sin was not deliberate.
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And I think that it's entirely reasonable to believe that some of them, at least when
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they saw the earthquake, and all the incredible happenings, in the immediate aftermath of
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his death, it became clear to them that it was, in fact, the Son of God, and that they
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had sinned.
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So their knowledge of sin at the time, when they were doing it, was not the same as what
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happened, at least for some of them, after the fact.
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They were not sinning deliberately when they murdered Christ by nailing him to the cross.
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That was not true of the Pharisees.
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It was not too true of the crowd of Jews, who had followed Jesus for years trying to
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murder him.
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There are passage after passage in all four of the Gospels describing how the Jews continuously
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tried to murder Christ, his entire earthly ministry.
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They finally succeeded by using the Romans as a political weapon.
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It was clever.
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It was absolutely malicious, and it was their way of doing it at arm's length, just as the
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Pharisees paid Judas the 30 pieces of silver for his betrayal, and then tossed it back
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as they couldn't accept blood money.
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They used the Romans to commit their murder.
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They did everything at arm's length.
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They did everything in secret.
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They did everything so that they could keep their hands clean as they were committing
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literally the worst sin, the worst crime in the history of the universe.
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Think about that.
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When someone says to you, all sins are equal.
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Would you agree then that if I steal your pencil, or if the Pharisees in the crowd of
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Jews demands that Christ be executed for no crime, are those equal?
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That's what you're saying.
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You're saying that the murder of Christ is no worse than anything else that anyone else
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has ever done.
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If that's a legal or a moral perspective you want to take, I honestly don't see how you
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can claim to be Christian.
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Any pagan can understand that there are degrees of sin, that there are degrees of evil.
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Corey just gave the example of mens rea when you know you're doing something wrong or not
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knowing.
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Then there are also the degrees to which some sins are sinful.
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There are things that are worse than others.
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As Corey mentioned up front, we say this in many episodes.
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It's always true.
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It's true, especially in this episode.
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We're not talking about suteriology.
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We're not talking about how we can save ourselves or justify ourselves.
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That's a problem that Protestantism solved perfectly 500 years ago, because we read the
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Bible again and we believed it again, and God solved it perfectly.
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He gave us the true information about how we are saved.
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We are saved solely through Christ's sacrifice.
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When we talk about something being a greater sin or a lesser sin, none of it gets you off
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the hook.
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The example we've given in the past is that the sin of Adam listening to his wife and
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then eating the wrong piece of fruit, that is the least significant sin in the history
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of sin.
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He ate a piece of fruit that he wasn't supposed to eat.
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It was a beautiful piece of fruit.
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It was probably delicious.
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The garden was full of trees and he was allowed to eat everything.
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God said, this one tree, don't touch that fruit.
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What did he do?
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He listened to his wife and he ate that one piece of fruit.
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Probably virtually every sin that you've ever committed in your life, I'm sure every
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sin I've ever committed in my life, was worse than eating the wrong piece of fruit.
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We inherit Adam's sin.
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We inherit damnation from our Father by virtue of that first sin, the smallest of all sins,
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and yet it causes our death.
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When we say greater or lesser sin, we do that with full acknowledgement that the least sinful
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sin possible, at least that I can think of, is still a damning sin.
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We're not talking about manners of damnation.
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We're talking about how God views these things.
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As we get into some of these other verses in a minute, we'll show clearly specific examples
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of other sins that are seen as much more abhorrent than others.
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Yes, with all deference to Volta, we are not dealing here with the gospel, obviously.
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We are dealing with the law.
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We are dealing with sin.
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We are dealing with theology, not specifically soteriology, and so his thesis 25, to let
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the gospel predominate, is not in play here.
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We don't reject Article 4 of the Augsburg Confession, obviously.
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That is the heart of Christianity.
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That's justification by faith.
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But that's not what we're dealing with.
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We are dealing with the issue of the nature of sin, degrees of sin, types of sin, categories
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of sin, because this is something that has been ignored by the modern church, which undoubtedly
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you've heard that refrain from us many times now.
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We are choosing these issues because they are things that are either neglected or taught
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incorrectly in modern churches.
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In order to be seeker-sensitive or what-have-you, many modern churches will say that, oh, all
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sins are equal, because they have it in their head, sometimes the best of them anyway, that
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they don't want to drive someone away by saying, your sin is particularly atrocious.
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Not specifically necessarily that person, because a person wandering off the street,
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you may not know what his sin is.
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But in his mind, in his heart, he knows what the sin is.
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And so in a sermon, if you stand up there and rail against this particularly atrocious
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sin, and that's the one in his heart, you have some pastors who are worried that that
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man will never come back, because, oh, well, he called out my specific horrible sin.
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And so that's the concern, but the concern is precisely wrong.
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Because to go into law and gospel a little bit, sinners have to be broken by the law
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before they are ready for the gospel.
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And so if you don't preach the law in its full severity, you should not be preaching
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the gospel in its full sweetness, because all you have done is set that man up to remain
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in his sin, to become impenitent, to harden his heart.
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And so it's the exact opposite.
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It is an inversion of what pastors and teachers are supposed to do when they say that all
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sins are equal.
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What I think hardening of heart is one of the key things that is left out of the discussion
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of, well, if all sins aren't equal, what does that mean?
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That is principally what it means.
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If you're committing very small with what the Roman Catholics call venial sins, it would
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take a lot of them and a lot of deliberate sinning for you to reach the point of apostasy.
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On the other hand, if, for example, you're a serial killer, to go to the extreme opposite
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that everyone would admit, murdering is worse than stealing pencils.
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Everyone knows that.
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You don't have to have faith to understand that.
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And yet, for some reason, the modern Protestant freaks out at the idea of saying, well, stealing
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pencils and murdering a lot of people, those are both damnable, therefore they must be
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exactly the same.
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Nonsense.
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The difference is that the serial killer or someone who does something similarly egregious
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and we'll get into some of those other examples, that high-handed, impenitent, severe sin drives
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out the Holy Spirit much faster if it was ever present in the first place and makes
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it impossible for the Holy Spirit to ever be present by virtue of the inherent depravity
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of the man who would do that, whereas someone who's just a shoplifter.
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Shoplifting is a terrible, bad thing.
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It's destructive.
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It's evil.
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But if all someone ever does is steal a lollipop every time they go down the candy aisle, they're
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probably not going to destroy their faith or make it impossible for the long gospel
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to work on their hearts.
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If someone comes along and says, stealing is wrong, here's the commandment that describes
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that.
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You're hurting your neighbor.
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You're hurting your community.
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That's evil.
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It's relatively simple for someone who's been a serial shoplifter to set that aside
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and turn away from it.
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It's a much bigger ask for someone who's committing much bigger crimes because they know the gravity
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of their sin is far greater.
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Therefore, the degree of forgiveness that they feel they need is so much more overwhelming
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that even if you got them to the point where they might admit that they've done something
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wrong, they would think that they were past the point of forgiveness, which is ultimately
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why this is so important.
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If you let someone committing grievous sins continue in them to the point that when he
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is perhaps convicted by his conscience that that was all sinful, he's going to think it's
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too late.
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That is when the flip side of all this comes into play.
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Jesus paid for every single sin, great and small on the cross.
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They're all paid for whether you believe it or not.
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You can be the most damnable, utterly repudiated person in history with no hope of salvation
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and have gone to hell.
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Jesus still paid for that person's sins, all of them.
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The fact that they rejected that forgiveness in some cases will be because they felt that
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their sin was too great, which is the trick that Satan always plays in every sin.
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When he pitched the fruit of the forbidden tree to Eve and to Adam, it was in the terms
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of, oh, you will not surely die.
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Then what happens after we commit that very small sin, seemingly small?
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What does the accuser come along and say afterwards, God could never forgive you for that?
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What you've done is so terrible.
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They hid.
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They were ashamed and they hid.
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They hid because they knew they were naked.
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That was part of eating from the tree of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.
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The same thing happens to us.
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When we commit a sin and we know that we've sinned, we hide.
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We know that we are guilty of something.
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Satan wants us to believe that we can't be forgiven.
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If you say that all sins are equal, the person who's in that position won't be able to understand
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the severity and the enormity of the sacrifice that Christ gave for their sins.
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The sweetness of that salvation is greater for he who needs it most.
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Now, we obviously all need salvation from the least to the greatest sinner, but within
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our own hearts, we know our own sins, not all of them, but we know many of them.
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When we feel as though our sins are greater than God can forgive, Satan has your heart.
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Even if you come to some degree of repentance, that's what happened to Judas.
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He was possessed by the devil.
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He betrayed Christ and then he regretted it, but he didn't repent in the sense that he
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turned back to Jesus and said, Lord, forgive me for betraying you.
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He felt that he had no hope of forgiveness and so he went and killed himself.
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That is the ultimate victory of Satan and saying, oh, it's not a big deal and then you
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do it and then he says it's unforgivable.
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If someone believes that all sins are equal, they're going to end up on both sides of that
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equation one right after the other because if you do something horrible and you're believing,
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I know better or worse than anyone else, when your conscience convicts you of that sin,
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you're then going to think this sin's enormity is too much for even God to forgive.
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There's no hope for me.
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That is when there's no room for the gospel.
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This is absolutely a question of people receiving salvation and hearing the gospel faithfully.
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That can only happen with sound doctrine up front about what sin is and what it is not.
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You touched on something there that a lot of Christians also get wrong these days.
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It's tangential, but it is related to the topic.
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That is the scope of the atonement of redemption.
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When we think that any particular sin, leaving aside for the moment the unpardonable, the
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unforgivable sin, we'll get to that.
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But when you think that a particular sin is too great to be forgiven, that God could never
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forgive me, I've committed too many and to heinous sins, you're losing sight of what
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exactly Christ accomplished, what God accomplished in the atonement.
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And that was the redemption of all things, of creation, because the sacrifice of Christ
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on the cross was of infinite value.
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He redeemed creation, not just you, not just me, not just a handful of things.
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He redeemed everything.
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It was complete.
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It was finished.
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It was an atonement that covered all sin, period, all sin.
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It will not be applied to all because there is the objective justification, which is the
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redemption, the atonement, the price paid by Christ for all sins, and then there is the
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subjective justification, which is the application of that to individual sinners, which happens
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by faith.
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And so if you don't have faith, it doesn't apply to you, but the sins are still forgiven.
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And so those who spend eternity in hell are attempting to pay the price for a sin that
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was already forgiven for which Christ already atoned.
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And so it is important to not lose sight of the scope of the atonement, of the actual
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scale of Christ's redemption, which was infinite.
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One of the most common examples that comes up both in the Old Testament and repeatedly
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in the New Testament is that of Sodom and Gomorrah, as a particular example of an egregious
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sin, and God's immediate temporal and hearkening to the eternal consequences of that sin.
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In Genesis 19 it's written, Then the Lord said, Because the outcry against Sodom and
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Gomorrah is great, and their sin is very grave, I will go down to see whether they have done
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altogether according to the outcry that has come to me.
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And if not, I will know.
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We all know what happened there.
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They were engaging in Sodomic behavior.
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The entire town, the multiple towns in the area, were engaged in obscene sexual acts.
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And when they heard the two angels had come, they heard two men were there.
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They said, Bring them out.
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We want to have sex with them, which forgive me for laughing.
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It's utterly alien to me, but it was normal in that town.
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When someone came, they wanted to rape the guests of Lot.
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And they didn't know they were angels, but it was certainly the confirmation that the
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angels had come to seek on behalf of God to see whether the outcry was true.
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And the consequence was that those towns were literally wiped off the map.
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And we think through modern archaeological evidence, we found exactly where that place
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was.
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They have found evidence of glass caused by superheated air.
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Basically, it appeared that there was a large air burst similar to the Tunguska blast in
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I think 1913, roughly.
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It was the equivalent of a multi-megaton nuclear detonation in the air above that location.
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And that's today that is visible in the ground and where they believe Sodom and Gomorrah
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was.
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The archaeologists digging it up don't believe the Bible, because obviously it's all nonsense.
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But when you look at what they found and what they can describe of the physical events that
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occurred there, it pretty well matches perfectly what is described in Scripture.
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There was a massive fiery configuration that wiped those towns off the map.
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Now, those are the only towns that have ever been wiped off the map like this.
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By God saying, this is what I'm going to do.
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And in the New Testament, as we'll get to in a minute, it's referred to repeatedly.
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Sodom and Gomorrah's sin was greater.
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God said he's going to go down and see if it's true that their sin is very grave.
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How can a sin be very grave if all sin is equal?
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Are we to believe if all sin is equal that the next town over from Sodom was less guilty?
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Were there no sinners in that town?
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Certainly not.
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Because never the claim.
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Every town has sinners, because every town has human beings who are born in sin.
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The reason that these towns were destroyed was that their sin was very great.
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And so we have a passage from Luke 10.
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But whenever you enter a town and they do not receive you, go into its streets and say,
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Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet, we wipe off against you.
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Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near.
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I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
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And so here we see that even though the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were great, there is
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in fact an even greater sin.
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This of course is rejecting Christ.
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This is rejecting the gospel, rejecting God.
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Which is the worst sin of course, and this ties right back into the unforgivable sin
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was mentioned.
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And I would be remiss if I did not mention as I do every time this comes up.
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If you can worry about the unforgivable sin, you have not committed it.
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That's the standard.
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So if that concerns you whatsoever, you have not committed it.
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And I'm not going to tell you not to worry about it, because of course that would be
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a problem.
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But the unforgivable sin is a complicated topic, but essentially it is unbelief.
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It is the deliberate rejection of God, of the gospel, of repentance.
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It is high-handed blasphemy.
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And that's what we have here, the rejection of the gospel by these towns.
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And so it will be better for Sodom on the day of judgment.
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It does not mean that Sodom is off the hook, as we've been saying throughout.
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Just because some sins are not as bad as others does not mean that they are not sins, does
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not mean they do not separate from God, does not mean that if you are not in Christ you
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will not go to hell for those sins.
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If you are not in Christ, you will go to hell regardless of the gravity of the sins you
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have committed.
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Your eternity will not be as bad as a serial killer or someone who has committed many heinous
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sins, but it will still not be a good eternity.
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And so these towns reject Christ, reject the gospel, and that sin is graver than Sodom
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and Gomorrah, who did not outright reject the gospel.
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Instead, they were engaged in heinous sexual sins, yes, horrible sins, no, not as bad as
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rejecting Christ.
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In this passage, of course, is one that we had referred to in one of our earlier episodes
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on the subject of forgotten doctrines.
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This is one of the passages in the synoptics that refers to the doctrine of shaking the
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dust off your feet as a curse against those who refuse to hear the gospel.
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I mean, they've heard it, they refuse to believe it.
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And so I think that's an important tie into, as Corey said, the unforgivable sin.
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What does this say?
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It says that in the case where someone believes when a missionary comes to them, to be told
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that God has come among them, if they do not believe, that is still to be announced.
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But whereas in the first case, if you hear and believe to hear that God has come near
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you is a matter of profound comfort and joy, if you do not believe when it is announced
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by the missionary that God has come among you, it is a curse.
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It is the foremost of all curses to saying, God has been here, you have rejected him.
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On the day of judgment, you are going to receive what you've earned here.
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And that is, I think, one of the things that is missing from Christian discussion of sin.
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You earn a specific punishment for a specific sin.
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There's a specific punishment for every sin, and there's a specific reward for every good
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deed.
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Now, the difference, and it's a tricky one for us to process because we've gotten so sloppy
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about thinking and speaking about these things, for the Christian.
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All of the good works that we do, which were prepared by God beforehand for us to do for
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the benefit of our neighbor, we receive credit for them, even though they're God's gift
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to us.
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All of the evil things that the Christian does are not credited to him, but were instead
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nailed to the cross with Christ.
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So that on the last day when we are covered in Christ's blood and our robes are washed
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white, we appear blameless before the throne of God.
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That's how it works.
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Christ atoning blood washes our robes white in the blood of the Lamb.
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We stand before God sinless, not because we've committed no sin, but because Christ propitiating
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sacrifice on the cross washed it away, because he paid the price for those sins.
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The converse is true of unbelievers.
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They had no good works in their life, no matter how laudable it may have seemed, because
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they were not doing them in the name of God.
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They have everything that they ever did as a sin, which Christ paid for, and they rejected
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that propitiation.
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They said, I don't believe in God.
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I don't want him to have anything to do with this.
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These are my sins.
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These aren't sins at all.
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However they want to cut it, they say, not God's problem, stay out of my business.
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On Judgment Day, it's God's business, and Christ's atoning sacrifice does not apply
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to them because they rejected it.
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It's not in the sense of the Reformed limited atonement where God only died for some, as
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Corey said earlier.
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The beginning of John's gospel is very important.
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When it talks about in the beginning was the word, everything in the universe was made
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through Christ.
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This is paralleled in the cross.
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Everything in the universe was redeemed through Christ.
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Only Christ could do that, by whom all things were made, through whom all things were redeemed.
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There's a perfect symmetry there that cannot be achieved anywhere else, which is why it's
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ludicrous for any man to think, well, maybe I can do something.
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Are you kidding me?
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It's utterly preposterous.
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No Christian believes that.
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No Christian believes that he can do anything to save himself.
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I think it's one of the greatest weaknesses of Protestant doctrine that we're still fighting
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the 15th century heresy that we can earn some of our salvation.
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We dealt with that.
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We got rid of it.
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We purified Christian doctrine and said, no, all the sacrifices at the cross.
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Okay, it's a settled matter.
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We don't need to relitigate that in every single sentence of every single sermon.
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In every single conversation we have about these things, there's more to say about the
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world and about the Christian life than saying that Jesus took care of it all.
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It's the most important thing, but it's not the only thing.
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This is about the end then.
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As a Christian who's been redeemed, who has the Holy Spirit to be able to understand what
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God has written, when we see people saying things like, all sins are equal, you can't
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judge man.
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That's just his sin and your sin is even worse, except all sins are equal.
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It falls apart on its face, but the important part is what they want you to do is not tell
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anyone else about their sin.
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That's what Satan wants.
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He doesn't want anyone to hear that they're sinning until it's too late, until they've
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committed such egregious sins that they feel that they're beyond redemption, which is false,
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but it's a lie that's easy to believe.
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It's one of the hardest things for someone when they hit rock bottom and in some aspect
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of their life to realize they can't do it themselves.
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That is when they're ready to hear the gospel, to hear that God did everything.
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You don't have to do anything.
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God is giving you the gift of faith and belief, receive it with thanksgiving, and it's yours.
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To emphasize what you said about the difference between the works of those who are in Christ
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versus those who are not, we often hear the term virtuous pagan, at least if you read
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theology and are in those circles.
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And there is and there is not such a thing as a virtuous pagan.
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The pagan who lives a morally upstanding life, who doesn't murder, doesn't cheat, doesn't
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steal, doesn't commit adultery, etc., is a virtuous pagan according to the law.
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Because you can do the works of the law according to human reason and free will.
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You cannot do them perfectly.
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You will always fall short, and so you will always sin.
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However, as was stated, they are not credited to you as good works because you are not in Christ.
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And so as a sinner, everything you do is sin, everything.
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Murder, sin, giving candy to a child, sin, saving a drowning animal, sin, everything
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you do as a sinner is sin.
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And so, in that sense, there is no such thing as a virtuous pagan.
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What the pagan cannot do, what the person outside Christ cannot do, is what the person
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in Christ can do.
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And instead of the works of the law, we are talking about the fruits of the spirit.
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Now these are theological categories, and it is important to keep that clear.
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Because the good works of Christians are also done according to the law, and we'll get into
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that in a future episode.
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But in this sense, this limited technical sense, the works of the law are those things
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that can be done according to human reason, even by the pagan.
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The fruits of the spirit are those things that are done in Christ through faith.
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Those are credited to the believer as good works, on account of Christ's sacrifice,
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on his behalf.
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And so if you are in Christ, you have good works.
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The good works you do are credited to you, as was stated, the sins you do are not credited
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to your account because they were washed away in Christ, they are washed clean by his blood.
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But again, the pagan does not actually have good works, because they are tainted because
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the pagan is a sinner, not in Christ, not forgiven.
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And so if you are not in Christ, you have only sins, no good works.
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If you are in Christ, ultimately, when you are brought before the judgment seat and the
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books are open and your deeds are read, you will have only good works, no sins.
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The next day Moses said to the people, You have sinned a great sin, and now I will go
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up to the Lord.
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Perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.
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So Moses returned to the Lord and said, Alas, this people have sinned a great sin, they
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have made for themselves gods of gold.
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I want to read this in particular because this, in addition to having the phrase great sin
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in English and ESB, I didn't look at the Hebrew, but I'm sure it's faithful.
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Moses was not only highlighting that some sins are better or worse than others, but
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this was talking about the greatest of all sins, which is a violation of the First Commandment.
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Because what had just happened, Moses had gone up the mountain, he had received the
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Ten Commandments, he'd come back down, and what did he find?
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He found that the Jews had abandoned God.
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They had made the golden calf so that they could worship it and say this idol is what
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brought us out of Egypt.
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God had literally just rescued them and they apostatized while in full view of the fiery
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pillar of his presence on the mountain.
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It's stunning to me to think about that scene where the very God who had rescued them miraculously
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from the Egypt, brought them into the desert, was speaking with the man who had led them
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out of captivity.
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There's a visible pillar of smoke and fire on the mountain.
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They could hear thunder.
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It was a huge scene.
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It was very visually dramatic, especially for being so unnatural.
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What did they do?
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They couldn't last 40 days without Moses telling them to bathe.
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They had an errand, melt down gold, and make a calf for them so that they could worship
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and say this is our God now.
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This calf led us out of Egypt.
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This was a great scene because it was number one on the list.
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You shall have no other gods before me.
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He comes down.
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Was he fine?
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They have another God before him.
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Before is an interesting word in that you shall have no other gods before me.
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It means in my presence.
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It doesn't mean in terms of rank.
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It doesn't mean before or after.
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It means before is in I see before me tons of soil to quote Spooner.
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When something is before God, it means that he can see it.
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God is omniscient.
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What is before God?
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Everything in the universe.
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Everything beyond the universe.
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Anything exists, it is before God.
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God is in the place where there is no place.
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He knows everything.
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When it says you shall have no other gods before me, it means you cannot have a single
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God apart from me.
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It's not in terms of rank.
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It's not saying God will be number one and then jewelry will be number two and football
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will be number three.
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It's saying you will have only God anywhere in your heart, in your mind, in your actions,
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only me.
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Moses came down and he found them abandoning that right off the bat.
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He called it a grace and they required him to go back up the mountain and speak to God.
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There's also an additional measure of egregiousness and irony that some readers will miss in this
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particular section.
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If you're not familiar with Egyptian paganism mythology, really what they were fashioning
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for themselves was an Egyptian idol.
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God had just destroyed Egypt, drowned Pharaoh and his army in the Red Sea, demonstrated
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his power over a course of however long it took for the plagues in the Exodus.
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And the Israelites in full view of God physically manifested speaking to Moses on a mountain
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decide to create a calf, a golden idol, probably related to Hathor who is represented often
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as a cow, so an Egyptian goddess.
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And so there's that additional level of apostasy here from the Israelites.
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They're returning to the wickedness of the pagan religion with which they were familiar
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in Egypt, despite what they just saw God do to Egypt when he brought them out of Egypt.
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There's an allusion to this in Matthew 22 when the Pharisees are trying to trick Jesus.
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They see teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law, and Jesus said to them, You shall
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love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
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This is the great and first commandment.
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And the second is like it.
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You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
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Of on these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.
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And so basically what Jesus is describing to the Pharisees is the first table and the
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second table of the law.
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He's describing you shall have no other gods before me and the second and third commandments
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that deal specifically with our relationship with God.
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And then the second table is our relationship with man, beginning with parents and then
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murder, adultery, and so forth.
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So when Jesus says there's a first and a second commandment, that necessarily implies
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that some sin is greater than others.
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The only alternative, if you say that all sin is equal, is to say, well, I can violate
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the first commandment and be an idolater, or I can do something else like steal my neighbor's
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ox.
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That's all the same.
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Jesus literally says in Matthew 22, it's not the same.
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He says the first and greatest commandment is our relationship to God.
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And then the second commandment is our relationship to our neighbors.
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And everything flows from that.
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And as we've said in the past, when you look at the ordering of the commandments from one
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through 10, it's greatest to least.
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At least Lutherans, we put things like chattels in the 10th position and we put God in the
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first position.
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Don't commit adultery.
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Don't steal your neighbor's ox or donkey or his slaves or his wife.
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Those are both sins.
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They're both damning sins, but they're at opposite ends of the spectrum of severity.
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It is far worse to commit idolatry than it is to steal.
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Stealing is bad.
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Idolatry is worse.
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Jesus says it.
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We have to believe it.
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And if we believe it, then we can't say all sins are equal.
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There's going to be a lot of redundancy in this episode because there's so many passages.
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The reason that we're doing this cumulative repetition of these various verses, and we're
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only scratching the surface here.
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There are many, many passages that deal with this specific issue.
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These are some of the key ones.
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But what these litany of passages show us are that you cannot possibly believe that all
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sins are equal if you believe any part of the Bible.
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You can turn to pretty much any book and you're going to find the same story.
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And that story is that there are some sins that are greater and there are some sins that
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are lesser.
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Not for the purpose of salvation, but for the purpose of sin against God and the degree
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to which it offends him and the degree to which the penalty that Christ paid on the cross.
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That's important.
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God says it's important.
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This isn't us making something up.
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This is not podcast or theology.
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It's literally just reading what's in the Bible.
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So the reason we're saying the same thing over and over again is that God said the same
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thing over and over again.
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And when the world is saying the opposite thing over and over again, at some point you
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have to wonder which book are they reading because they cannot be reading the Bible if
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they're saying that all sins are equal.
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To add just a little footnote that isn't actually, well is from the Bible and isn't
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at the same time.
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Just for those who are going to be listening with a more critical ear, yes, I am well aware
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that the word underlying calf in Exodus 32 is Igel and the feminine version is Iglah.
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But it was most likely still in some way related to Hathor because, yes, Hathor is typically
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represented as a female deity and thus a cow and not a young bull.
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Just adding that for anyone listening with a critical ear.
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Keeping it out of the comments.
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Yeah, basically I'm heading off having to field a comment somewhere on that point.
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That's something that people probably know.
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This is Cordy and I talk, we'll sometimes make these odd asides, brushing aside criticisms
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of what we've just said.
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We're such perfectionists that we're both sitting here continually critiquing what we're
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saying to ourselves.
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As I'm speaking, I have a running monologue where I'm basically heckling myself saying,
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well, that's not right.
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That's not right.
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You should do that better.
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You should have said this differently.
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Literally as I'm talking, as I'm thinking.
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And so sometimes our senses get longer and longer as we sort of tack on all these additional
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seemingly less important things.
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It's specifically because we're trying to be clear and precise in our speech and not
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make mistakes.
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And so we literally harangue ourselves in our heads so that we find all the faults.
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So hopefully there's not much left for someone else to find fault with.
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That's something that's kind of endemic to the way our brains work.
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But I wish the more people sort of took that care as they approached these things because
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just shouting catchphrases that sound nice and that make you friends with the world.
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If it puts you at odds with scripture, we think that's a big deal.
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That's why we're taking the time to do this.
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That's why we're suffering the indignities that Corey and I have suffered in our personal
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lives for the sake of doing this.
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This has not been fun.
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This has not been easy.
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We've taken abuse for saying these things.
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For what?
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For doing Bible studies.
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Okay.
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If people want to heap abuse on us for doing Bible studies, I think that if there's a sin
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here, the Bible study is a lesser sin than he who would attack us for it.
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It's funny that the same people who say all sins are equal are also the first to say that
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Corey and I are chief among sinners.
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Maybe that'll be a subject for another episode.
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The next passage I want to read is from Luke 12.
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And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to
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his will will receive a severe beating.
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But the one who did not know and did what deserved a beating will receive a light beating.
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Everyone to whom much was given of him, much will be required.
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And from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.
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So again, this is emphasizing not only the knowledge and forethought of the action of
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the individual, but it's emphasizing that they're greater and lesser punishments and
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that to some degree, the punishment for he who does not know what he's doing will be
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lesser.
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There's still punishment.
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You know, this passage, this is from ESV and so I didn't fix where I said servant.
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It means slave.
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You don't beat servants.
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You beat slaves.
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You beat someone who's your property.
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Maybe you should.
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Maybe you shouldn't.
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This passage condones it.
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It says, the greater beating will go to the slave who has sinned more greatly.
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The lesser beating will go to the slave who has sinned more lightly.
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Lighter beating, lighter consequence for a lighter sin.
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Again, it doesn't explicitly say greater and lesser degrees of sin, but it's the same principle
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playing out again because it's exactly the point.
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These things are everywhere in scripture.
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And once you start to understand that this notion of equality and of everything being
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equal and identical, it's antithetical to scripture.
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It's something new in a new religion.
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It's not something that came from God.
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Next one I wanted to cover was from James 3.
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It's a very short one that we've referred to before.
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Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will
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be judged with the stricter judgment.
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Again, if everything is the same, how can there possibly be a stricter judgment?
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And consider this.
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This is being written about Christians.
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It's not being written about a stricter judgment in terms of believer and unbeliever.
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This is not about soteriology.
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This is not about whether or not someone's saved.
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It's saying that even if you are saved, if you choose to become a teacher, you opt into
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a stricter judgment, you will face harsher consequences.
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Now, in heaven, harsher consequences don't mean punishment, but there are degrees of
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glory in heaven.
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We probably won't get in some of those passages today, but it's clear that the rewards in
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heaven are also given unequally.
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When Jesus says the first shall be last and the last shall be first, how is that not unequal?
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All of these phrases that are so common to the way God speaks about heaven and about
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reordering the ungodly, worldly life and a heavenly life, it's all about inequality.
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The first shall be last.
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That's not fair.
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That's not equal.
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That's saying that someone who lived like a king today and did not live in a gogly fashion,
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even if he's saved, he's not going to be first in heaven.
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He's going to sit at the back.
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He's not going to have the place of honor.
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It's going to be the widows and the orphans and those who had the least and were the most
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humble and seemed the most pathetic.
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Those will be the ones whom God elevates as the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
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It's not just about station in life.
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It's not just about class system.
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It's also about works.
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When God judges more strictly teachers, those who have taught faithfully will receive great
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rewards.
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Those who have taught unfaithfully but were still saved, they're not going to get much
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for it.
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We don't know how that plays out.
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We're not giving specifics because God gives none, but God absolutely says that these things
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will occur.
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All we in the 21st century need to know is that it's unequal.
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Some get more, some get less in heaven.
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In perfection, some get more and some get less based on the degree of their sin today.
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For a teacher to be judged with stricter judgment based on his teachings implies that there
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are some teachings that are sinful and that the greater degree of sin and teaching, the
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greater lack of glory will be given for that teacher.
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It may well be a teacher who spent his whole life teaching falsely but somehow was filled
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still a Christian.
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I don't know what he's going to get in heaven.
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He's going to be in heaven.
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He's going to be perfect for him but will not be as greatly rewarding to him as if he
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had been a faithful teacher.
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Again, we don't know what that looks like.
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It's not our business.
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It's not our problem.
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It's in God's hands.
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We can trust that he will act perfectly.
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All we need to know is that when we run around saying, yeah, it's all the same man, that
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we're not agreeing with what God says.
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Yes, of course, we do know that we have elected to be subject to the stricter judgment because
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what we're doing here is teaching and we are both well aware of that fact.
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But I would also highlight here that I do think the implication that comes along with
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this is something to which Christians should pay attention.
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There are different kinds of teachers, the same as there are different degrees of sin.
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If you are a pastor, you are a teacher in the church, you are an overseer, you have responsibilities
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and you will be held to account for what you did or did not do in this life.
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When you spoke falsely, when you minimized parts of scripture, when you ignored parts
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of scripture, God will ask you about that at the judgment.
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You will have to give an answer.
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But there are other teachers as well and those teachers will be held accountable for what
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they did or did not do in the office that was given them by God.
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It's not going to be the same sort of stricter judgment as someone who stands up to teach
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in the church.
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That is what is in view here.
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But if you're a parent, you're a teacher and you will be called to account for whether
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you taught your children correctly or not.
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If you are an employer, you will be called to account for how you treated and dealt with
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your employees.
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Now there may be some complexity there when it comes to teaching the faith to employees
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and how much of a duty an employer has there is up for debate.
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But if you are the master of a house, you are responsible for everyone in your household.
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You are a teacher by virtue of your office and it is your duty to fulfill that faithfully.
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Again, no, you will not be held to this particular high level of scrutiny and strictness because
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you did not stand up to teach in the church.
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You did not deliberately stand up to handle the things of God.
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But by virtue of the office given you by God, you do have a lesser version of this duty.
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And it is vitally important for Christians to bear that in mind when they go about their
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daily tasks.
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If you are a father, are you training your wife?
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Are you training your children?
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Are you training those who work in your household if you have others who work in your household
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or live in your household?
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Are you doing the things God gave you to do by virtue of the office he gave you?
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If you are not, you are falling short of the mark and falling short of the mark is one
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of the things that is meant by one of the words we translate as sin.
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Do not sin by omission.
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Yes, it is possible to sin by commission, but it is also possible to sin by omission,
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which simply means it is possible to sin by doing something, and it is possible to sin
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by failing to do something that you should have done.
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And for specific details on what we mean when we say that we are teachers, go back and listen
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to the first episode of Stonequire, episode number one.
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We specifically talked about the difference between what a pastor does and what a teacher
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who is addressing an anonymous audience.
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So there's no accountability for anyone listening to us, to us.
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There's no relationship between you as a listener where we hold you accountable for what we
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are teaching.
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However, what we are teaching, we are accountable to God for.
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That is the difference.
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A pastor is accountable for the souls in his parish.
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A teacher in an audience hall doesn't have accountability in the same way.
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He's not necessarily taking attendance.
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He doesn't know who's there.
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In the lecture, he shows up, people show up, you listen, you take it or leave it.
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When we say that we are teachers, it is in that sense.
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We are teaching from Scripture.
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We're saying things that God says, and we're giving you what we believe is a faithful explanation
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for those things, particularly as they relate to the world today.
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But that is not to say that it is taught with any authority beyond the authority of Scripture
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itself.
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We're not making any claim-based credentials or anything.
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Take it or leave it.
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If what we say is good, it's because you agree with Scripture.
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If you don't like it, okay, if you don't take your arguments, that's between you and
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God.
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If we're wrong, we answer to God.
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If you're wrong, you answer to God.
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We don't have to worry about that.
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And again, from the Luke 12 passage, everyone to whom much has been given of him, much
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will be required.
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We're smart.
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We're good at this.
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Even if someone thinks that what we're saying is false, particularly those who are hate
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listening who believe that we're false teachers, they admit that we're extremely good at it.
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Those who listen and like what we say also think that we're good at this.
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We've had a very warm and welcome and widespread reception to the way that we're explaining
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things on Stone Choir because we're good at it.
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The reason we're doing it is that much has been given to us.
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What were we doing the year before we started this podcast?
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We were not using our gifts the way we're using them now.
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That was sin.
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We should have been doing this earlier.
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We talked about it earlier.
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I avoided it because I knew that harm would come to my family from evil men who would
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seek to destroy me for the sake of telling the truth because that's the state of the
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world today.
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It's the state of the church today.
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I put it off because I didn't want to cause harm to my family.
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It eventually got to the point by the end of 2022 that it became clear that I had no
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choice.
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Corey and I talked about it and we finally pulled the trigger on something.
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I think we both knew from the time we met that we pretty much had to do this.
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Other people had talked about it before.
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We joked about it for a couple of years, but we avoided it sinfully.
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We stopped sinning and now we're doing it.
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Now we're accused of sin for doing it, so again, in a minute we'll get to the judgmental
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stuff.
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I just want to point out, when we say we're teachers, it's not bragging.
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The reason we're doing this is that we have been given gifts.
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We believe as a matter of conscience we have no choice but to do this.
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We believe that it's obedience to God for us to do this.
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We don't have a choice.
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I don't want to put it like it's that important to not remain silent.
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That's why we named it what we did.
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We give an explanation at the end of the first episode.
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We are the stones who cry out, not because we feel that we have a vocation to, but we
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have the aptitude to, and no one else was doing it.
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Now that we've begun doing it, other men are beginning to speak up against the same evil.
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That is what needs to happen because two guys of the podcast aren't going to do anything
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by themselves.
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If we're just shouting into the void, nothing changes.
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It takes hearts and minds elsewhere in the church reorienting towards what God has said
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so that we can all become faithful members of faithful churches again.
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The last passage we're going to read in this section from Matthew 5 amplifies from James
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3.
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Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to
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do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches
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them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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Again, this is reiterating greater punishment, greater reward, least and greatest.
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Connishment maybe isn't quite the right word.
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Called the least in heaven, you're still in heaven, so great.
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You cross the finish line.
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That is a cause for celebration.
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However, you're going to be the least.
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It's not a popularity contest.
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It's not striving to be number one in heaven.
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We all know that it's not us.
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The scripture talks some about the ranking there, and we have a little bit.
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We know that there's a ranking.
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Jesus Disciples argued over who is going to be seated at his right hand, and the question
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is valid.
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The concern isn't our problem.
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That's God's gift to give.
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What we have to worry about is that in this life, our actions do not shame God, do not
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waste the gifts that we've been given, and that if God says something, we're not ashamed
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of it, and we just believe it and we follow through with it.
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Again, to finish out this thing on all sins not being equal, we're not saying,
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oh, if you obey God, you'll be saved.
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You're already saved, so how can you best obey God?
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You're just changing the word order, but it fundamentally alters the equation, and that's
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the reason that these subjects are important.
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To emphasize what was said about teachers and what will be demanded from teachers and
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others, from him to whom much has been given will much be required.
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That is the long and the short of it.
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If you have been given a particular set of gifts and you are not using them in service
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of the kingdom, you will be judged for that.
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That's not necessarily going to damn you, but you are not going to receive the rewards
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that you would have received if you had used the gifts given you by God to do the good
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works He prepared for you to do.
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And that is the case if God has given you intelligence, you should be using that in
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service of the kingdom.
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If He has given you material wealth, you should be using that in service of the kingdom.
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If you are someone to whom God has given tens, hundreds of millions of dollars, you should
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absolutely be using that to fix up church buildings, to fund the soup kitchens, to help
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others in your congregation who are struggling.
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You should be using the things God has given you to help others, because those are good
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works.
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Those are the good works prepared specifically for you, because He gave you the means to do
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it.
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And when it comes to teaching, if God has given you a perceptive mind, the ability to
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process materials, knack for languages, whatever it happens to be, all of these various capacities
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that go into being a good teacher of any particular subject.
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Because you can serve God teaching law, the same as you can serve God teaching theology.
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You can serve God making shoes.
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If He gave you a particular dexterity, you're very good with your hands.
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You may be a surgeon.
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You may be a cobbler.
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It just depends on the abilities that God has given you.
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What will be required of you at the judgment is what you did with the gifts that were given
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you by God.
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Yes, there is the central judgment, the core matter upon which you are sent to the right
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or the left hand, whether you are a sheep or a goat.
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And that is whether or not you have faith in Christ.
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But after that the books are opened and your deeds are read from them, and you will have
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good works or you will not, depending on what you did in this life with what God gave you.
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And that again is why we are doing this podcast.
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God gave us the ability to look at these materials, to understand them, to read through the resources,
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and then to teach others.
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And so we are using the gifts that He gave us.
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And as mentioned, in the balance of our lives here to four, we've used those gifts largely
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for other things.
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I've taught a little bit in the church in the past.
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I taught through part of Genesis until COVID kind of killed that.
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But for most of my life, no, I didn't focus on these things and use the gifts in the way
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that I should have been using them all along.
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I should have been doing this for far longer than I have.
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We both recognize that.
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But it is better to begin doing the things God wants you to do today than saying, oh,
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well, I didn't do it for the last ten years, so it's already too late.
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That's just Satan again telling you you've committed too many sins over too long of a
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period.
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They're too great.
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They're too heinous.
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God couldn't possibly forgive you.
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And that's false.
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Your sins are already forgiven.
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Start doing the good works now.
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That is part of Christian life.
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No good works do not save you.
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Again, we went over this five hundred years ago.
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We had this fight.
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We won because we resorted to Scripture and the adversaries did not.
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Good works will not save you.
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Good works do not contribute to your justification.
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Good works do not make you ready for justification.
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Good works do not complete your justification.
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Good works do nothing for your justification.
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But you still have to do them as a Christian because a living faith will produce fruit.
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The same as a living tree, a living tree, a healthy fruit tree produces fruit.
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If your faith is a living and healthy tree, it will produce good works because those are
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the fruit of a living Christian faith.
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And so if you have not been doing those works, if you have not been using the gifts God gave
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you, start now.
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And so we will finish up today with one more passage also from Matthew being Sermon on
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the Mount.
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You have heard that it was said, you shall not commit adultery, but I say to you that
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everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with
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her in his heart.
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If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away, for it is better
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that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.
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And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away, for it is better
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that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
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And so what we see here in the teaching on lust or adultery on the Sermon of the Mount,
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in the Sermon of the Mount is you have a progression of sin from least terrible to most terrible.
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The ultimate end of this chain is not actually listed by Christ, because the ultimate end
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of course is actual adultery.
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And so it's the wandering eye that drives that grasping hand that pulls the body down
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into adultery and ultimately the soul down into hell.
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And that's what we're dealing with here.
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You have a progression of sins and every step is worse than the previous one.
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If you look at a woman with lustful intent, that is adulterous sin, but it is not as bad
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as reaching out and grasping that woman, which is of course the physical manifestation, the
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beginning of the ultimate act of adultery.
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And that is not as bad as the actual act of adultery.
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These are degrees of sin.
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This is Christ's teaching on the progression of sin, because we see this with all sin.
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Sin always gets worse.
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And so the time to stop sinning, of course, is before you start, but the second best time
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to stop sinning is the second you recognize it is sin.
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Because if you continue, it will get worse.
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You will commit more egregious sin, because it is always the little sin that Satan gets
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you to commit, the little sin where you give into the flesh and some minor thing that leads
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to another sin and another and another.
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And ultimately you commit heinous sins.
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You will, of course, ultimately apostatize if you continue down that path, because it
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becomes a willful turning away from God at some point.
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And so here on the teaching on lust, if you look at a woman lustfully and most of this
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audience undoubtedly is male, you are going to do this in life.
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You are a fallen and sinful being.
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Your passions are not rightly ordered.
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You are going to look at a woman with lustful intent, particularly given the reality of
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our current social situation, let's call it.
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Turn away, close the browser tab, walk away from the computer, whatever it happens to
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be, whatever the temptation is, flee.
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That is the advice of Scripture is to flee the temptation.
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If you cannot flee the temptation, pray.
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Pray the Lord's prayer.
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Do the best you can to minimize this temptation because men are visual.
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That's a simple fact.
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And so looking at the woman with lustful intent, that desire that starts with the eye is going
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to lead to more.
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It may be you look at the woman first and then you decide to go and talk to this woman
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who you have a lustful desire for.
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You've committed an additional sin.
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No talking to a woman is not a sin, but it's the intent you have behind it.
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And then you ask her out for a drink.
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The sin progresses, it gets worse.
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Flee from the sin as soon as the temptation arises.
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Yes, that internal desire, that concupiscence itself is sin.
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You've already committed the sin when you've looked at her with lustful intent.
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But you don't have to continue the chain and commit worse and more egregious sins.
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So the Christian response is to turn to God because God will give you a way to escape from
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the sin.
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He promises that.
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Look for that way to escape the sin.
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If it's fleeing, if it's praying, minimizing whatever it is you can do, flee from the sin.
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Do not follow this chain that Satan wants you to follow because what he wants you to do
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is he wants you to start off thinking, well, looking isn't that bad.
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Yeah, it's a sin, but there are much worse things I could be doing.
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So I'll look.
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He wants you to follow from that all the way down into the depths until you commit fornication,
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adultery, whatever it happens to be.
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And then he's going to turn around and tell you, look, you're just a sinner.
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You've already committed this heinous act.
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God won't forgive you for this.
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You may as well keep sinning.
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That's his end goal.
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Do not follow him into the pit.
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The important thing to note about the progression of sin is that looking lustfully is a sin.
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And then any follow on are additional sins.
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And I think this is something that the all sins are equal lie, actually weaponizes upfront.
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It's not only at the end where you've already committed fully to a life of sin and you say,
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well, I've already done, I may as well keep doing it.
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If you believe that all sins are equal and you catch yourself looking lustfully at someone,
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well, if all sins are equal, then the natural rationalization of that circumstance is what?
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In for a penny, in for a pound.
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I already looked at her with lust on my heart, which Jesus says is actual adultery.
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So if I'm already an adulterer, why shouldn't I follow through?
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Why shouldn't I complete the act?
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I'm already guilty.
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I may as well enjoy it too.
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That's the trap.
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If you believe that all sins are equal, then it's very, like that's, it's false.
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That's what I just said is a lie, but it is a very easy lie that can be rationalized in
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the mind of someone who's ultimately just self-serving.
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Even if you listen to part of what these people are saying, God said, which is false.
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God didn't say that.
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God said these things.
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But even if you listen to it and it informs your actions, the lie of all sins being equal
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may very well cause you to commit greater sins because you don't believe they're greater.
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See, that's the trap.
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If all sins are equal, how can you commit a greater sin?
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You're already a sinner, so who cares?
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Like Jesus died for me, he took care of all this crap.
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What do I need to worry about?
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That's part of the ultimate trap.
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It's not just that all sins are equal.
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It's just that individual sin is equal to any other individual sin.
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Necessarily, any volume of sins is also equal to a different volume of sins.
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Someone who commits a hundred sins in a day versus someone who commits a thousand sins
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in a day, there's no way to quantify that.
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We don't even know how often we sin.
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It's impossible, but even for the sake of argument, if it were quantifiable, both are
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equally damned, but if you believe that all sins are equal, you can't say to the man who's
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only committed a hundred sins, you got 900 more.
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You're not going to be any worse than that other guy.
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That's what these false teachings do to us.
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They ultimately give license.
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See, they're sold as a way of being loving and being caring and not being judgmental,
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but ultimately what they do is they give license to greater and greater sin, which again,
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ultimately always leads to separation of the soul from God.
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It's what Satan wants, which is why this all sins are equal stuff is a pernicious sin.
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It is a vicious, evil thing that is spread among us.
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Some people have it say with good intentions.
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Other people say because they know that they're covering for their own greater sins.
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They know that they're up to no good and they don't want to be judged more harshly than
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someone else.
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They pump this smoke screen into the air so that you can't judge them.
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I mentioned a couple of times we're going to be doing judge not in this episode.
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We're already getting along on time.
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Next week, we've decided we're going to be doing an episode on antinomianism where we're
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specifically going to talk for probably close to two hours again, specifically about judge
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not and the modern view was not modern, but it's a recurring theme of antinomianism or
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against the law where people set their hearts against what God says because they don't like
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the sound of it and judge not is a part of that.
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If you say you can judge people, again, it's another smoke screen.
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It's a defense mechanism to say, hey, man, my sins are no worse than yours or no better
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than yours.
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We're all equal, right?
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So don't you tell me what's wrong with me?
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Well, where does the law go in that world where you can't tell someone of their sin?
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How can they be corrected?
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If scripture is useful for rebuke and correction of error and yet rebuke is forbidden by this
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modern morality, are you going to be Christian or are you going to be the modern religious
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person that says he's Christian, that does things that kill the Christian faith?
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That's what this comes down to, so we're going to do another episode on this.
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It'll be not quite a follow-on, but a natural continuation of the essence of judging and
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the law.
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We've talked in the past about what the nature of the law is.
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If you'd like a refresher, I'd recommend going back and listening to the episode on
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Perfect Hatred.
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We talk at some length about the manner in which the law is eternal and it's functionally,
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it's God's eternal will.
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What God wants for the world, what he wants for us individually, does not change.
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The rules are not fickle.
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God's not fickle.
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The rules are not capricious.
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What God desires is that which is good and holy, and when we set our minds and our hearts
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at odds with that, we create the hell on earth that we're all experiencing now.
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I'll just leave you with the thought that these things that seem small, like what's
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the big deal if someone says all sins are equal and someone says they're not?
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On a surface, it doesn't seem like it's much of a distinction because it's process especially.
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One way or another, we know that Jesus paid for all our sins.
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Who cares if one sin is worse than another?
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Are you saying you're better than me?
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No.
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Nothing to do with an individual asserting being better or worse than another Christian.
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The problem is that these are matters that ultimately separate souls from God.
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Satan knows what he's doing.
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When Satan comes up with this rhetoric, like all sins are equal, he knows it's going to
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play in our hearts and minds.
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He knows what we want to hear because it's license.
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It's basically a free pass.
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That's not how the pastors sell it, but it's how hearts receive it.
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For some of the pastors, it's what they intend.
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Some of the guys who are the biggest promoters of this stuff inevitably get outed as sexual
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deviants who, in many cases, have been defrocked because they go so far because, hey, man,
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all sins are equal.
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I don't judge me.
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This stuff matters.
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Even the things that we talk about that seem like they're small issues.
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If they were small, we wouldn't be talking about them.
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We're talking about big issues that don't seem big because they slip under the radar.
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Everything that sounds Christian is all right by the Christian ear.
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The problem is that we no longer discern what is Christian from what is worldly.
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All someone has to do is gussy it up and make it sound a little bit like Jesus, and a Christian
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is going to say, oh, yeah, that sounds like morality.
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I want that to be mine, too.
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We focus on scripture.
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Please, you focus on scripture.
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Read your Bibles.
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If what we said is wrong, you're going to find it in the Bible.
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If what we said is right, you're going to find a bunch more of it because we're not cherry
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taking.
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We've spent an hour and a half talking about close to a dozen passages.
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We could have done 50 more.
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That should be a reminder to you that when someone says something, all sin is equal.
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They're not talking about a sin from scripture.
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They're not talking about God.
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They're talking about teachings of demons.
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It's a strident thing to say, but the difference between salvation and damnation is recognizing
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our master's voice.
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The Christian's master's voice is the voice of God, and that voice is found in scripture.
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Others do not hear it.
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They hear the voice of God, and they're like, it doesn't sound right to me.
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Many of them hear it, and they think that sounds hateful.
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It's a very common complaint, is that this stuff sounds hateful.
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Well, if you think the voice of God sounds hateful, wait for judgment day, because Christians
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are going to be lined up in one line, and everyone else is going to be lined up in another.
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We're going to hear a very different type of voice.
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Christians are going to hear, Welcome Thou Good and Faithful Servant, and I wish for
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everyone who's listening that that would be what you heard here on the last day, because
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I would like to hang out with all of you.
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We have a stone choir booth.
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We can sit around and talk and figure out all the stuff that we didn't understand.
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It'll be exciting, and it'll be perfect, and we won't have to worry about fighting
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and disagreements, but we have to get there, and Jesus paid the price for us to get there,
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but we can't reject what he says.
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So please read your Bibles, go to a faithful church, study this stuff, and take it seriously.
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And as Corey said, flee evil.
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It's okay to flee evil.
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Whatever it is, whether it's lust or false teaching, or whatever your particular pest
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sin is, if you're confronted with it, just turn around and walk away.
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That's where repent means.
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Metanoia means turning, turning away from.
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Do a 180, back out of there.
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Get away from the evil and focus on what God desires, and in the end, that's all we
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can do in this life.
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We can't be perfect, but we can try to go and sin no more.
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So let's try that.
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And not to bury the lead or add something on right at the end, but not to be remiss.
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I want to point out exactly what it is when someone says all sins are equal.
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The reason we are focusing on this, and as was mentioned, we could have gone through
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dozens more passages.
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We could point out Genesis 9.6.
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There are different punishments for different sins, very strongly implying there are different
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degrees of sin.
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But I want to read the second commandment.
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You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
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And the explanation from the small catechism, what does this mean?
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We should fear and love God, so that we may not curse, swear, use witchcraft, lie or deceive
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by his name, but call upon it in every trouble, pray, praise, and give thanks.
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And that was the point of this entire episode.
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Because when you say that all sins are equal, you are lying and deceiving in his name.
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You are violating the second commandment.
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And as a reminder, the commandments are hierarchical.
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You are committing one of the greatest sins, because of course the greater sin would be
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to have another God, which is also implicated when this comes up.
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But those who say that all sins are equal, are lying in his name, are deceiving in his
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name.
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And that is why this is important for Christians.
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It's important because God's word is truth, and you should believe every word of it.
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But it is also important because when you ignore things like this, particularly if you are
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a pastor or a teacher, and God forbid you stand up and teach false doctrine on these subjects.
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Because that is violating the second commandment.
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And if you do not repent, you are keeping that sin for yourself, instead of letting
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God, instead of letting Christ take it to the cross, and wash it away in his blood.
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And we don't want anyone listening to this, even if you are listening to it, if you are
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hate listening to this, if you are attempting to find some way in which we are teaching
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false doctrine, something we've said wrong, somewhere we've slipped, misspoken, whatever
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have you.
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Even if you are that person, we want you to repent and turn from your evil ways, and
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return to God.
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Because as Woe said, we do want everyone to make it to paradise, no everyone will not.
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Scripture is very clear on that, many will reject Christ, will reject God, will spend
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eternity in hell paying for sins for which Christ already paid.
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We do not want any of you to join them.
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We would prefer that you join us in paradise, with the Savior who paid for all your sins.
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All of your sins, which are not all equal, some of which are egregious, some of you may
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have committed truly heinous sins in your life.
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Some of you listening may not have committed particularly heinous sins.
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You still sin, you're still a sinner.
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Again as Woe said before, you sin because you're a sinner, you're not a sinner because
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you sin.
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It's that original sin that is the wellspring from which other sins come.
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And so whether you've committed the relatively minor sins stolen, the pencil as was mentioned
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earlier, although it depends which one of my pencils you steal, or you've murdered someone.
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That was paid for by Christ, regardless of the gravity of the sin.
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But if you keep that sin for yourself, if you don't allow Christ to take that to the
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cross, if you want to say no I want to keep this one, then you get to spend eternity with
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that sin instead of with your Savior.
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And so all sins are not equal, some are worse than others.
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But Christ died for all of them, He paid for all of them, He paid for every single sin
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you have committed, regardless of how trivial or how truly terrible.
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The atonement, the scope of the atonement was infinite, all sins wiped clean.
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But only if you believe.
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00:00:30 – 00:00:39: Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast.
00:00:39 – 00:00:41: I am Corey J. Mahler.
00:00:41 – 00:00:44: And I'm woe.
00:00:44 – 00:00:48: Today's episode of Stone Choir is talking about the subject of whether all sins are
00:00:48 – 00:00:55: equal and following on from that, whether we are permitted to judge the sins of another.
00:00:55 – 00:00:58: What does it mean to judge, particularly when scripture says judge not?
00:00:58 – 00:01:03: These are both things that you hear in the mouths of many Christians today, generally
00:01:03 – 00:01:06: they're liberal Christians who are trying to avoid controversy.
00:01:06 – 00:01:13: They're trying to avoid any sense of accusation or claiming that one person could possibly
00:01:13 – 00:01:15: be worse than another.
00:01:15 – 00:01:19: That's something that Protestants in particular are extremely allergic to.
00:01:19 – 00:01:23: So today what we're going to be going through is a series of verses straight from scripture.
00:01:23 – 00:01:28: This is basically going to be a long Bible study where we talk about the various verses
00:01:28 – 00:01:33: that make absolutely explicit that not all sins are equal, that not only are they not
00:01:33 – 00:01:39: equal in God's eyes, but that they are punished unequally as well.
00:01:39 – 00:01:44: Like many of our episodes, this is fundamentally an assault on the false doctrine of equality.
00:01:44 – 00:01:46: There's no such thing before God at any point.
00:01:46 – 00:01:51: And we'll get into the details of what we mean because obviously there are counterarguments
00:01:51 – 00:01:56: that some make that we're going to demolish here, in this case dealing with the question
00:01:56 – 00:01:58: of sin being equal.
00:01:58 – 00:02:01: First passage we're going to talk about today is from John 19.
00:02:01 – 00:02:05: It's one that we've all heard recently as we're just on the heels of Holy Week.
00:02:05 – 00:02:08: So Pilate said to Jesus, you will not speak to me.
00:02:08 – 00:02:13: Do you not know that I have the authority to release you and authority to crucify you?
00:02:13 – 00:02:17: Jesus answered him, you would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given to
00:02:17 – 00:02:19: you from above.
00:02:19 – 00:02:23: Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.
00:02:23 – 00:02:27: Then on Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out, if you release this man,
00:02:27 – 00:02:29: you are not Caesar's friend.
00:02:29 – 00:02:33: Everyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar.
00:02:33 – 00:02:37: I tacked on that second part just because as a side note, in the spirit of all sins
00:02:37 – 00:02:41: are equal, it's very often something that comes up in the last few years, but particularly
00:02:41 – 00:02:48: on the heels during Easter of claiming that it wasn't the Jews who executed Christ, that
00:02:48 – 00:02:49: it was the Romans.
00:02:49 – 00:02:55: When you read the narratives of Christ's trials, it was the Jews who brought him to the Romans.
00:02:55 – 00:02:59: The only reason they did murder him themselves is that they did not have the legal authority
00:02:59 – 00:03:01: to do so.
00:03:01 – 00:03:06: They came to Pilate and then Herod and then Pilate again, making false accusations and
00:03:06 – 00:03:10: basically bullied Pilate into a corner to crucify him.
00:03:10 – 00:03:13: Even though he knew he wasn't guilty, he said he wasn't guilty.
00:03:13 – 00:03:18: He knew there was unjust, but for the sake of peace in his own head, because here it
00:03:18 – 00:03:23: says, if you release this man, you're not Caesar's friend, is an explicit threat.
00:03:23 – 00:03:27: This Pilate would be committing treason if he didn't execute Jesus.
00:03:27 – 00:03:29: That's how that played out.
00:03:29 – 00:03:35: When Jesus says, he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin, Jesus is naming
00:03:35 – 00:03:36: the Jew.
00:03:36 – 00:03:41: He is saying, the Jews who handed me over to you, Pilate, for Roman execution because
00:03:41 – 00:03:44: you have the authority to execute.
00:03:44 – 00:03:49: That only existed because of the disparity between the goals of the Romans and the goals
00:03:49 – 00:03:50: of the Jews.
00:03:50 – 00:03:55: Jesus acknowledged they had different motivations, they had different interests, and that it was
00:03:55 – 00:04:01: explicitly the greater evil of the Jews who were crying for his blood and crying for Barabbas
00:04:01 – 00:04:05: to be freed, even though he was a murderer.
00:04:05 – 00:04:08: That was the greater sin that Jesus refers to.
00:04:08 – 00:04:13: Just as a single passage, they would refute the notion that all sins can be equal just
00:04:13 – 00:04:19: in one verse when Jesus says the greater sin precludes any notion that that could possibly
00:04:19 – 00:04:20: be true.
00:04:20 – 00:04:24: As we go through the rest of these, we'll see in greater detail how that plays out.
00:04:24 – 00:04:29: Right from Holy Week itself, from Jesus' own lifts, that claim that all sins are equal
00:04:29 – 00:04:32: is categorically disqualified.
00:04:32 – 00:04:36: We just end there, and it's our shortest episode, right?
00:04:36 – 00:04:41: Because really, if you have the direct word of Christ here saying that there is such thing
00:04:41 – 00:04:47: as a greater sin, well, obviously, then there are different degrees of sin.
00:04:47 – 00:04:49: There are worse sins, there are sins that are not as bad.
00:04:49 – 00:04:55: Of course, all sin separates from God, and all sin is damning, but there are greater
00:04:55 – 00:05:01: sins, there are greater punishments flowing from those greater sins.
00:05:01 – 00:05:05: Just to emphasize what you said about the bit about Caesar's friend, because that's
00:05:05 – 00:05:10: going to go past most modern readers, they're going to see that and go, okay, you're not
00:05:10 – 00:05:13: a friend of Caesar, if you do this thing, fine.
00:05:13 – 00:05:19: In the context, to be Caesar's friend is to be someone who is on Caesar's good side.
00:05:19 – 00:05:24: To be not Caesar's friend is, as was said, to be a traitor.
00:05:24 – 00:05:29: To be someone who is going to be marked for persecution and probably execution, and Pilate
00:05:29 – 00:05:35: may eventually have been executed, whether as a martyr or not, we're not entirely sure
00:05:35 – 00:05:36: of the history of that.
00:05:36 – 00:05:41: I happen to think he probably did convert, but that's an aside.
00:05:41 – 00:05:46: But obviously here, just at the outset, we have the very clear, irrefutable teaching
00:05:46 – 00:05:50: that there is such a thing as a greater sin.
00:05:50 – 00:05:54: And so Christians cannot say that, you know, all sins are equal, that's not true.
00:05:54 – 00:05:56: All sins are not equal.
00:05:56 – 00:05:59: All sins separate from God, that is true.
00:05:59 – 00:06:06: Insofar as you are talking purely about the separation of man from God, all sins are equal
00:06:06 – 00:06:09: in that they affect that separation.
00:06:09 – 00:06:16: But all sins are not equal in the gravity of the sin, in the degree of the sin, in really
00:06:16 – 00:06:23: the significance of that separation between God and man that is worked by the sin.
00:06:23 – 00:06:28: This is something that in Luke 23, at Jesus' crucifixion, he parallels.
00:06:28 – 00:06:32: Jesus said, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do, and they cast lots
00:06:32 – 00:06:34: to devise his garments.
00:06:34 – 00:06:39: That was specifically speaking of the Roman soldiers, the men who were the proximate cause
00:06:39 – 00:06:43: of his hands and feet being nailed to a cross.
00:06:43 – 00:06:46: He said, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
00:06:46 – 00:06:53: Just as he said, this pilot's sin was the lesser sin for unjustly murdering him, for
00:06:53 – 00:06:54: unjustly executing him.
00:06:54 – 00:06:57: It was a murder because it was an unjust execution.
00:06:57 – 00:07:03: But it was also an execution under the law, although the law had been misapplied.
00:07:03 – 00:07:08: But even at that, Jesus paralleled Pilate's sin of commanding his execution, and then
00:07:08 – 00:07:16: the actual executioners, the Roman soldiers who were literally at the cross, some of whom
00:07:16 – 00:07:17: they witnessed what happened.
00:07:17 – 00:07:21: They witnessed those miracles, as Pilate did, and he wasn't present.
00:07:21 – 00:07:26: And so when Jesus said, forgive them, for they know not what they do, that is not a
00:07:26 – 00:07:32: prayer that Jesus gave to the brain crowd of Jews who called for his blood.
00:07:32 – 00:07:33: They knew what they were doing.
00:07:33 – 00:07:35: They knew that they wanted to murder an innocent man.
00:07:35 – 00:07:40: The Roman soldiers, for lack of a better phrase, they were following orders.
00:07:40 – 00:07:41: What were they going to do?
00:07:41 – 00:07:46: Pilate says, you execute a man, they nailed him to a cross, that's what they did.
00:07:46 – 00:07:54: And so here in two verses, in the very same story, hours apart, Jesus says, there's a
00:07:54 – 00:07:58: greater sin, and he says, forgive these men for the lesser sin.
00:07:58 – 00:08:00: God forgive them because they don't know that they're nailing the Son of God to the
00:08:00 – 00:08:02: cross.
00:08:02 – 00:08:07: And we can, of course, pull out a general principle here, that a knowing sin is worse
00:08:07 – 00:08:09: than an unknowing sin.
00:08:09 – 00:08:11: And yes, there is such a thing as an unknowing sin.
00:08:11 – 00:08:19: If you unknowingly transgress God's law, that's still a sin, but it is an unknowing sin.
00:08:19 – 00:08:24: If you know God's law and deliberately transgress it, that is a knowing sin, that is a worse
00:08:24 – 00:08:25: sin.
00:08:25 – 00:08:26: It's, in fact, multiple sins.
00:08:26 – 00:08:33: Because the act itself is sin, the guilty intent is sin, the deliberate violation of
00:08:33 – 00:08:35: God's law is sin.
00:08:35 – 00:08:41: You're compounding sin when you do something knowingly, as opposed to the unknowing sin,
00:08:41 – 00:08:46: where you merely transgress God's law, but not deliberately.
00:08:46 – 00:08:54: This of course, also deals with the difference between original sin and actual sin.
00:08:54 – 00:08:57: Original sin, in this case, just meaning sins that are not original sin.
00:08:57 – 00:09:01: It's just a term used in theology to differentiate the two.
00:09:01 – 00:09:06: It's not saying that actual sin is actually sin and original sin is not.
00:09:06 – 00:09:08: They're both sin.
00:09:08 – 00:09:16: Original sin is what is inherited from our parents all the way back to Adam.
00:09:16 – 00:09:20: It is inherited down the line genealogically.
00:09:20 – 00:09:26: That is, sin that is a corruption of man's nature, and we sin because we are sinners,
00:09:26 – 00:09:29: and we are sinners because of original sin.
00:09:29 – 00:09:34: Actual sin are those sins that we then go on to commit ourselves.
00:09:34 – 00:09:40: Not inherited sin, but sins that we have committed, theft, murder, adultery, whatever it happens
00:09:40 – 00:09:42: to be.
00:09:42 – 00:09:47: And so we see in that the difference between original and actual sin, that at the very least
00:09:47 – 00:09:48: there are categories of sin.
00:09:48 – 00:09:55: There are different kinds of sins, and we'll get into more of that later on in the episode.
00:09:55 – 00:09:59: But again, notice the difference in this passage.
00:09:59 – 00:10:07: A knowing sin, committed deliberately, committed with intent, is worse than an unknowing sin.
00:10:07 – 00:10:09: And we of course have that in our civil laws.
00:10:09 – 00:10:11: We recognize that.
00:10:11 – 00:10:17: If you accidentally kill someone, probably not murder unless you were doing something
00:10:17 – 00:10:22: incredibly negligent, then could potentially still be murder.
00:10:22 – 00:10:27: But for instance, if you are driving a vehicle, and you have a medical emergency, you black
00:10:27 – 00:10:32: out, you have an aneurysm, and you run over a pedestrian, that's not murder.
00:10:32 – 00:10:36: It's in fact not even negligent, most likely.
00:10:36 – 00:10:41: If you deliberately drive into a crowd of pedestrians, that is murder.
00:10:41 – 00:10:47: So there's a difference regarding the intent, and the same thing holds here.
00:10:47 – 00:10:52: The first perfect passage for dealing with deliberate sin is from Hebrews 10.
00:10:52 – 00:10:57: For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there
00:10:57 – 00:11:02: no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury
00:11:02 – 00:11:05: of fire that will consume the adversaries.
00:11:05 – 00:11:09: Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy, on the evidence of two
00:11:09 – 00:11:10: or three witnesses.
00:11:10 – 00:11:15: How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the one who has trampled under
00:11:15 – 00:11:20: foot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified,
00:11:20 – 00:11:22: and has outraged the spirit of grace?
00:11:22 – 00:11:26: For we know him who said, vengeance is mine, I will repay.
00:11:26 – 00:11:30: And again, the Lord will judge his people, is a fearful thing to fall into the hands
00:11:30 – 00:11:32: of the living God.
00:11:32 – 00:11:38: So this passage makes clear, part of the reason, perhaps the entire reason, that those Roman
00:11:38 – 00:11:44: soldiers, Jesus asked for their forgiveness, was that they were not deliberately sinning.
00:11:44 – 00:11:47: They were executing a convicted criminal.
00:11:47 – 00:11:50: He was wrongly convicted, but that was above their pay grade.
00:11:50 – 00:11:52: They had an order, and they followed it.
00:11:52 – 00:11:54: Their sin was not deliberate.
00:11:54 – 00:11:59: And I think that it's entirely reasonable to believe that some of them, at least when
00:11:59 – 00:12:05: they saw the earthquake, and all the incredible happenings, in the immediate aftermath of
00:12:05 – 00:12:10: his death, it became clear to them that it was, in fact, the Son of God, and that they
00:12:10 – 00:12:11: had sinned.
00:12:11 – 00:12:18: So their knowledge of sin at the time, when they were doing it, was not the same as what
00:12:19 – 00:12:22: happened, at least for some of them, after the fact.
00:12:22 – 00:12:26: They were not sinning deliberately when they murdered Christ by nailing him to the cross.
00:12:26 – 00:12:28: That was not true of the Pharisees.
00:12:28 – 00:12:32: It was not too true of the crowd of Jews, who had followed Jesus for years trying to
00:12:32 – 00:12:33: murder him.
00:12:34 – 00:12:39: There are passage after passage in all four of the Gospels describing how the Jews continuously
00:12:39 – 00:12:43: tried to murder Christ, his entire earthly ministry.
00:12:43 – 00:12:49: They finally succeeded by using the Romans as a political weapon.
00:12:49 – 00:12:52: It was clever.
00:12:52 – 00:12:59: It was absolutely malicious, and it was their way of doing it at arm's length, just as the
00:12:59 – 00:13:04: Pharisees paid Judas the 30 pieces of silver for his betrayal, and then tossed it back
00:13:04 – 00:13:06: as they couldn't accept blood money.
00:13:06 – 00:13:10: They used the Romans to commit their murder.
00:13:10 – 00:13:11: They did everything at arm's length.
00:13:11 – 00:13:12: They did everything in secret.
00:13:12 – 00:13:16: They did everything so that they could keep their hands clean as they were committing
00:13:16 – 00:13:22: literally the worst sin, the worst crime in the history of the universe.
00:13:22 – 00:13:23: Think about that.
00:13:23 – 00:13:27: When someone says to you, all sins are equal.
00:13:27 – 00:13:34: Would you agree then that if I steal your pencil, or if the Pharisees in the crowd of
00:13:34 – 00:13:40: Jews demands that Christ be executed for no crime, are those equal?
00:13:40 – 00:13:41: That's what you're saying.
00:13:41 – 00:13:46: You're saying that the murder of Christ is no worse than anything else that anyone else
00:13:46 – 00:13:49: has ever done.
00:13:49 – 00:13:55: If that's a legal or a moral perspective you want to take, I honestly don't see how you
00:13:55 – 00:13:56: can claim to be Christian.
00:13:56 – 00:14:02: Any pagan can understand that there are degrees of sin, that there are degrees of evil.
00:14:02 – 00:14:07: Corey just gave the example of mens rea when you know you're doing something wrong or not
00:14:07 – 00:14:08: knowing.
00:14:08 – 00:14:13: Then there are also the degrees to which some sins are sinful.
00:14:13 – 00:14:16: There are things that are worse than others.
00:14:16 – 00:14:20: As Corey mentioned up front, we say this in many episodes.
00:14:20 – 00:14:21: It's always true.
00:14:21 – 00:14:23: It's true, especially in this episode.
00:14:23 – 00:14:26: We're not talking about suteriology.
00:14:26 – 00:14:32: We're not talking about how we can save ourselves or justify ourselves.
00:14:32 – 00:14:37: That's a problem that Protestantism solved perfectly 500 years ago, because we read the
00:14:37 – 00:14:41: Bible again and we believed it again, and God solved it perfectly.
00:14:41 – 00:14:45: He gave us the true information about how we are saved.
00:14:45 – 00:14:48: We are saved solely through Christ's sacrifice.
00:14:48 – 00:14:53: When we talk about something being a greater sin or a lesser sin, none of it gets you off
00:14:53 – 00:14:55: the hook.
00:14:55 – 00:15:01: The example we've given in the past is that the sin of Adam listening to his wife and
00:15:01 – 00:15:07: then eating the wrong piece of fruit, that is the least significant sin in the history
00:15:07 – 00:15:08: of sin.
00:15:08 – 00:15:11: He ate a piece of fruit that he wasn't supposed to eat.
00:15:11 – 00:15:12: It was a beautiful piece of fruit.
00:15:12 – 00:15:15: It was probably delicious.
00:15:15 – 00:15:18: The garden was full of trees and he was allowed to eat everything.
00:15:18 – 00:15:20: God said, this one tree, don't touch that fruit.
00:15:20 – 00:15:21: What did he do?
00:15:21 – 00:15:24: He listened to his wife and he ate that one piece of fruit.
00:15:25 – 00:15:28: Probably virtually every sin that you've ever committed in your life, I'm sure every
00:15:28 – 00:15:34: sin I've ever committed in my life, was worse than eating the wrong piece of fruit.
00:15:34 – 00:15:36: We inherit Adam's sin.
00:15:36 – 00:15:44: We inherit damnation from our Father by virtue of that first sin, the smallest of all sins,
00:15:44 – 00:15:46: and yet it causes our death.
00:15:46 – 00:15:52: When we say greater or lesser sin, we do that with full acknowledgement that the least sinful
00:15:52 – 00:15:57: sin possible, at least that I can think of, is still a damning sin.
00:15:57 – 00:15:59: We're not talking about manners of damnation.
00:15:59 – 00:16:04: We're talking about how God views these things.
00:16:04 – 00:16:08: As we get into some of these other verses in a minute, we'll show clearly specific examples
00:16:08 – 00:16:11: of other sins that are seen as much more abhorrent than others.
00:16:11 – 00:16:16: Yes, with all deference to Volta, we are not dealing here with the gospel, obviously.
00:16:16 – 00:16:18: We are dealing with the law.
00:16:18 – 00:16:19: We are dealing with sin.
00:16:19 – 00:16:27: We are dealing with theology, not specifically soteriology, and so his thesis 25, to let
00:16:27 – 00:16:31: the gospel predominate, is not in play here.
00:16:31 – 00:16:35: We don't reject Article 4 of the Augsburg Confession, obviously.
00:16:35 – 00:16:37: That is the heart of Christianity.
00:16:37 – 00:16:41: That's justification by faith.
00:16:41 – 00:16:42: But that's not what we're dealing with.
00:16:42 – 00:16:50: We are dealing with the issue of the nature of sin, degrees of sin, types of sin, categories
00:16:50 – 00:16:55: of sin, because this is something that has been ignored by the modern church, which undoubtedly
00:16:55 – 00:16:58: you've heard that refrain from us many times now.
00:16:58 – 00:17:03: We are choosing these issues because they are things that are either neglected or taught
00:17:03 – 00:17:08: incorrectly in modern churches.
00:17:08 – 00:17:15: In order to be seeker-sensitive or what-have-you, many modern churches will say that, oh, all
00:17:15 – 00:17:21: sins are equal, because they have it in their head, sometimes the best of them anyway, that
00:17:21 – 00:17:29: they don't want to drive someone away by saying, your sin is particularly atrocious.
00:17:29 – 00:17:32: Not specifically necessarily that person, because a person wandering off the street,
00:17:32 – 00:17:35: you may not know what his sin is.
00:17:35 – 00:17:38: But in his mind, in his heart, he knows what the sin is.
00:17:38 – 00:17:43: And so in a sermon, if you stand up there and rail against this particularly atrocious
00:17:43 – 00:17:48: sin, and that's the one in his heart, you have some pastors who are worried that that
00:17:48 – 00:17:53: man will never come back, because, oh, well, he called out my specific horrible sin.
00:17:53 – 00:17:58: And so that's the concern, but the concern is precisely wrong.
00:17:58 – 00:18:04: Because to go into law and gospel a little bit, sinners have to be broken by the law
00:18:04 – 00:18:06: before they are ready for the gospel.
00:18:06 – 00:18:11: And so if you don't preach the law in its full severity, you should not be preaching
00:18:11 – 00:18:17: the gospel in its full sweetness, because all you have done is set that man up to remain
00:18:17 – 00:18:21: in his sin, to become impenitent, to harden his heart.
00:18:21 – 00:18:23: And so it's the exact opposite.
00:18:23 – 00:18:28: It is an inversion of what pastors and teachers are supposed to do when they say that all
00:18:28 – 00:18:30: sins are equal.
00:18:30 – 00:18:35: What I think hardening of heart is one of the key things that is left out of the discussion
00:18:35 – 00:18:39: of, well, if all sins aren't equal, what does that mean?
00:18:39 – 00:18:41: That is principally what it means.
00:18:41 – 00:18:48: If you're committing very small with what the Roman Catholics call venial sins, it would
00:18:48 – 00:18:54: take a lot of them and a lot of deliberate sinning for you to reach the point of apostasy.
00:18:54 – 00:18:59: On the other hand, if, for example, you're a serial killer, to go to the extreme opposite
00:18:59 – 00:19:03: that everyone would admit, murdering is worse than stealing pencils.
00:19:03 – 00:19:04: Everyone knows that.
00:19:04 – 00:19:07: You don't have to have faith to understand that.
00:19:07 – 00:19:13: And yet, for some reason, the modern Protestant freaks out at the idea of saying, well, stealing
00:19:13 – 00:19:19: pencils and murdering a lot of people, those are both damnable, therefore they must be
00:19:19 – 00:19:20: exactly the same.
00:19:20 – 00:19:21: Nonsense.
00:19:21 – 00:19:26: The difference is that the serial killer or someone who does something similarly egregious
00:19:26 – 00:19:34: and we'll get into some of those other examples, that high-handed, impenitent, severe sin drives
00:19:34 – 00:19:38: out the Holy Spirit much faster if it was ever present in the first place and makes
00:19:38 – 00:19:43: it impossible for the Holy Spirit to ever be present by virtue of the inherent depravity
00:19:43 – 00:19:50: of the man who would do that, whereas someone who's just a shoplifter.
00:19:50 – 00:19:52: Shoplifting is a terrible, bad thing.
00:19:52 – 00:19:53: It's destructive.
00:19:53 – 00:19:54: It's evil.
00:19:55 – 00:20:00: But if all someone ever does is steal a lollipop every time they go down the candy aisle, they're
00:20:00 – 00:20:06: probably not going to destroy their faith or make it impossible for the long gospel
00:20:06 – 00:20:07: to work on their hearts.
00:20:07 – 00:20:13: If someone comes along and says, stealing is wrong, here's the commandment that describes
00:20:13 – 00:20:14: that.
00:20:14 – 00:20:15: You're hurting your neighbor.
00:20:15 – 00:20:17: You're hurting your community.
00:20:17 – 00:20:18: That's evil.
00:20:18 – 00:20:24: It's relatively simple for someone who's been a serial shoplifter to set that aside
00:20:24 – 00:20:25: and turn away from it.
00:20:25 – 00:20:30: It's a much bigger ask for someone who's committing much bigger crimes because they know the gravity
00:20:30 – 00:20:32: of their sin is far greater.
00:20:32 – 00:20:38: Therefore, the degree of forgiveness that they feel they need is so much more overwhelming
00:20:38 – 00:20:41: that even if you got them to the point where they might admit that they've done something
00:20:41 – 00:20:46: wrong, they would think that they were past the point of forgiveness, which is ultimately
00:20:46 – 00:20:48: why this is so important.
00:20:48 – 00:20:53: If you let someone committing grievous sins continue in them to the point that when he
00:20:53 – 00:20:58: is perhaps convicted by his conscience that that was all sinful, he's going to think it's
00:20:58 – 00:21:00: too late.
00:21:00 – 00:21:03: That is when the flip side of all this comes into play.
00:21:03 – 00:21:06: Jesus paid for every single sin, great and small on the cross.
00:21:06 – 00:21:09: They're all paid for whether you believe it or not.
00:21:09 – 00:21:17: You can be the most damnable, utterly repudiated person in history with no hope of salvation
00:21:17 – 00:21:19: and have gone to hell.
00:21:19 – 00:21:22: Jesus still paid for that person's sins, all of them.
00:21:22 – 00:21:27: The fact that they rejected that forgiveness in some cases will be because they felt that
00:21:27 – 00:21:32: their sin was too great, which is the trick that Satan always plays in every sin.
00:21:32 – 00:21:39: When he pitched the fruit of the forbidden tree to Eve and to Adam, it was in the terms
00:21:39 – 00:21:42: of, oh, you will not surely die.
00:21:42 – 00:21:46: Then what happens after we commit that very small sin, seemingly small?
00:21:46 – 00:21:51: What does the accuser come along and say afterwards, God could never forgive you for that?
00:21:51 – 00:21:52: What you've done is so terrible.
00:21:52 – 00:21:53: They hid.
00:21:53 – 00:21:55: They were ashamed and they hid.
00:21:55 – 00:21:57: They hid because they knew they were naked.
00:21:57 – 00:22:02: That was part of eating from the tree of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.
00:22:02 – 00:22:03: The same thing happens to us.
00:22:03 – 00:22:07: When we commit a sin and we know that we've sinned, we hide.
00:22:07 – 00:22:10: We know that we are guilty of something.
00:22:10 – 00:22:13: Satan wants us to believe that we can't be forgiven.
00:22:13 – 00:22:18: If you say that all sins are equal, the person who's in that position won't be able to understand
00:22:18 – 00:22:25: the severity and the enormity of the sacrifice that Christ gave for their sins.
00:22:25 – 00:22:30: The sweetness of that salvation is greater for he who needs it most.
00:22:30 – 00:22:36: Now, we obviously all need salvation from the least to the greatest sinner, but within
00:22:36 – 00:22:40: our own hearts, we know our own sins, not all of them, but we know many of them.
00:22:40 – 00:22:48: When we feel as though our sins are greater than God can forgive, Satan has your heart.
00:22:48 – 00:22:53: Even if you come to some degree of repentance, that's what happened to Judas.
00:22:53 – 00:22:55: He was possessed by the devil.
00:22:55 – 00:23:01: He betrayed Christ and then he regretted it, but he didn't repent in the sense that he
00:23:01 – 00:23:05: turned back to Jesus and said, Lord, forgive me for betraying you.
00:23:05 – 00:23:10: He felt that he had no hope of forgiveness and so he went and killed himself.
00:23:10 – 00:23:14: That is the ultimate victory of Satan and saying, oh, it's not a big deal and then you
00:23:14 – 00:23:17: do it and then he says it's unforgivable.
00:23:17 – 00:23:20: If someone believes that all sins are equal, they're going to end up on both sides of that
00:23:20 – 00:23:26: equation one right after the other because if you do something horrible and you're believing,
00:23:26 – 00:23:32: I know better or worse than anyone else, when your conscience convicts you of that sin,
00:23:32 – 00:23:36: you're then going to think this sin's enormity is too much for even God to forgive.
00:23:36 – 00:23:38: There's no hope for me.
00:23:38 – 00:23:40: That is when there's no room for the gospel.
00:23:40 – 00:23:48: This is absolutely a question of people receiving salvation and hearing the gospel faithfully.
00:23:48 – 00:23:53: That can only happen with sound doctrine up front about what sin is and what it is not.
00:23:53 – 00:23:58: You touched on something there that a lot of Christians also get wrong these days.
00:23:58 – 00:24:01: It's tangential, but it is related to the topic.
00:24:01 – 00:24:07: That is the scope of the atonement of redemption.
00:24:07 – 00:24:12: When we think that any particular sin, leaving aside for the moment the unpardonable, the
00:24:12 – 00:24:14: unforgivable sin, we'll get to that.
00:24:14 – 00:24:19: But when you think that a particular sin is too great to be forgiven, that God could never
00:24:19 – 00:24:28: forgive me, I've committed too many and to heinous sins, you're losing sight of what
00:24:28 – 00:24:33: exactly Christ accomplished, what God accomplished in the atonement.
00:24:33 – 00:24:40: And that was the redemption of all things, of creation, because the sacrifice of Christ
00:24:40 – 00:24:44: on the cross was of infinite value.
00:24:44 – 00:24:50: He redeemed creation, not just you, not just me, not just a handful of things.
00:24:50 – 00:24:52: He redeemed everything.
00:24:52 – 00:24:54: It was complete.
00:24:54 – 00:24:55: It was finished.
00:24:55 – 00:25:02: It was an atonement that covered all sin, period, all sin.
00:25:02 – 00:25:08: It will not be applied to all because there is the objective justification, which is the
00:25:08 – 00:25:14: redemption, the atonement, the price paid by Christ for all sins, and then there is the
00:25:14 – 00:25:20: subjective justification, which is the application of that to individual sinners, which happens
00:25:20 – 00:25:21: by faith.
00:25:21 – 00:25:26: And so if you don't have faith, it doesn't apply to you, but the sins are still forgiven.
00:25:26 – 00:25:31: And so those who spend eternity in hell are attempting to pay the price for a sin that
00:25:31 – 00:25:36: was already forgiven for which Christ already atoned.
00:25:36 – 00:25:43: And so it is important to not lose sight of the scope of the atonement, of the actual
00:25:43 – 00:25:47: scale of Christ's redemption, which was infinite.
00:25:47 – 00:25:51: One of the most common examples that comes up both in the Old Testament and repeatedly
00:25:51 – 00:25:58: in the New Testament is that of Sodom and Gomorrah, as a particular example of an egregious
00:25:58 – 00:26:07: sin, and God's immediate temporal and hearkening to the eternal consequences of that sin.
00:26:07 – 00:26:12: In Genesis 19 it's written, Then the Lord said, Because the outcry against Sodom and
00:26:12 – 00:26:18: Gomorrah is great, and their sin is very grave, I will go down to see whether they have done
00:26:18 – 00:26:21: altogether according to the outcry that has come to me.
00:26:21 – 00:26:23: And if not, I will know.
00:26:23 – 00:26:26: We all know what happened there.
00:26:26 – 00:26:29: They were engaging in Sodomic behavior.
00:26:29 – 00:26:36: The entire town, the multiple towns in the area, were engaged in obscene sexual acts.
00:26:36 – 00:26:40: And when they heard the two angels had come, they heard two men were there.
00:26:40 – 00:26:41: They said, Bring them out.
00:26:41 – 00:26:46: We want to have sex with them, which forgive me for laughing.
00:26:46 – 00:26:49: It's utterly alien to me, but it was normal in that town.
00:26:49 – 00:26:55: When someone came, they wanted to rape the guests of Lot.
00:26:55 – 00:26:58: And they didn't know they were angels, but it was certainly the confirmation that the
00:26:58 – 00:27:04: angels had come to seek on behalf of God to see whether the outcry was true.
00:27:04 – 00:27:09: And the consequence was that those towns were literally wiped off the map.
00:27:09 – 00:27:14: And we think through modern archaeological evidence, we found exactly where that place
00:27:14 – 00:27:15: was.
00:27:15 – 00:27:21: They have found evidence of glass caused by superheated air.
00:27:21 – 00:27:27: Basically, it appeared that there was a large air burst similar to the Tunguska blast in
00:27:27 – 00:27:30: I think 1913, roughly.
00:27:30 – 00:27:39: It was the equivalent of a multi-megaton nuclear detonation in the air above that location.
00:27:39 – 00:27:43: And that's today that is visible in the ground and where they believe Sodom and Gomorrah
00:27:43 – 00:27:44: was.
00:27:44 – 00:27:48: The archaeologists digging it up don't believe the Bible, because obviously it's all nonsense.
00:27:48 – 00:27:54: But when you look at what they found and what they can describe of the physical events that
00:27:54 – 00:27:59: occurred there, it pretty well matches perfectly what is described in Scripture.
00:27:59 – 00:28:06: There was a massive fiery configuration that wiped those towns off the map.
00:28:06 – 00:28:11: Now, those are the only towns that have ever been wiped off the map like this.
00:28:11 – 00:28:15: By God saying, this is what I'm going to do.
00:28:15 – 00:28:19: And in the New Testament, as we'll get to in a minute, it's referred to repeatedly.
00:28:19 – 00:28:23: Sodom and Gomorrah's sin was greater.
00:28:23 – 00:28:27: God said he's going to go down and see if it's true that their sin is very grave.
00:28:27 – 00:28:30: How can a sin be very grave if all sin is equal?
00:28:30 – 00:28:37: Are we to believe if all sin is equal that the next town over from Sodom was less guilty?
00:28:37 – 00:28:39: Were there no sinners in that town?
00:28:39 – 00:28:40: Certainly not.
00:28:40 – 00:28:42: Because never the claim.
00:28:42 – 00:28:47: Every town has sinners, because every town has human beings who are born in sin.
00:28:47 – 00:28:53: The reason that these towns were destroyed was that their sin was very great.
00:28:53 – 00:28:55: And so we have a passage from Luke 10.
00:28:55 – 00:29:01: But whenever you enter a town and they do not receive you, go into its streets and say,
00:29:01 – 00:29:06: Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet, we wipe off against you.
00:29:06 – 00:29:10: Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near.
00:29:10 – 00:29:17: I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.
00:29:17 – 00:29:22: And so here we see that even though the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were great, there is
00:29:22 – 00:29:25: in fact an even greater sin.
00:29:25 – 00:29:27: This of course is rejecting Christ.
00:29:27 – 00:29:32: This is rejecting the gospel, rejecting God.
00:29:32 – 00:29:37: Which is the worst sin of course, and this ties right back into the unforgivable sin
00:29:37 – 00:29:38: was mentioned.
00:29:38 – 00:29:43: And I would be remiss if I did not mention as I do every time this comes up.
00:29:43 – 00:29:49: If you can worry about the unforgivable sin, you have not committed it.
00:29:49 – 00:29:50: That's the standard.
00:29:50 – 00:29:56: So if that concerns you whatsoever, you have not committed it.
00:29:56 – 00:29:59: And I'm not going to tell you not to worry about it, because of course that would be
00:29:59 – 00:30:00: a problem.
00:30:00 – 00:30:06: But the unforgivable sin is a complicated topic, but essentially it is unbelief.
00:30:06 – 00:30:11: It is the deliberate rejection of God, of the gospel, of repentance.
00:30:11 – 00:30:15: It is high-handed blasphemy.
00:30:15 – 00:30:22: And that's what we have here, the rejection of the gospel by these towns.
00:30:22 – 00:30:25: And so it will be better for Sodom on the day of judgment.
00:30:25 – 00:30:30: It does not mean that Sodom is off the hook, as we've been saying throughout.
00:30:30 – 00:30:35: Just because some sins are not as bad as others does not mean that they are not sins, does
00:30:35 – 00:30:40: not mean they do not separate from God, does not mean that if you are not in Christ you
00:30:40 – 00:30:43: will not go to hell for those sins.
00:30:43 – 00:30:49: If you are not in Christ, you will go to hell regardless of the gravity of the sins you
00:30:49 – 00:30:50: have committed.
00:30:50 – 00:30:55: Your eternity will not be as bad as a serial killer or someone who has committed many heinous
00:30:55 – 00:31:00: sins, but it will still not be a good eternity.
00:31:00 – 00:31:08: And so these towns reject Christ, reject the gospel, and that sin is graver than Sodom
00:31:08 – 00:31:11: and Gomorrah, who did not outright reject the gospel.
00:31:11 – 00:31:19: Instead, they were engaged in heinous sexual sins, yes, horrible sins, no, not as bad as
00:31:19 – 00:31:20: rejecting Christ.
00:31:20 – 00:31:24: In this passage, of course, is one that we had referred to in one of our earlier episodes
00:31:24 – 00:31:27: on the subject of forgotten doctrines.
00:31:27 – 00:31:31: This is one of the passages in the synoptics that refers to the doctrine of shaking the
00:31:31 – 00:31:36: dust off your feet as a curse against those who refuse to hear the gospel.
00:31:36 – 00:31:39: I mean, they've heard it, they refuse to believe it.
00:31:39 – 00:31:46: And so I think that's an important tie into, as Corey said, the unforgivable sin.
00:31:46 – 00:31:47: What does this say?
00:31:47 – 00:31:56: It says that in the case where someone believes when a missionary comes to them, to be told
00:31:56 – 00:32:01: that God has come among them, if they do not believe, that is still to be announced.
00:32:01 – 00:32:06: But whereas in the first case, if you hear and believe to hear that God has come near
00:32:06 – 00:32:12: you is a matter of profound comfort and joy, if you do not believe when it is announced
00:32:12 – 00:32:17: by the missionary that God has come among you, it is a curse.
00:32:17 – 00:32:23: It is the foremost of all curses to saying, God has been here, you have rejected him.
00:32:23 – 00:32:28: On the day of judgment, you are going to receive what you've earned here.
00:32:28 – 00:32:33: And that is, I think, one of the things that is missing from Christian discussion of sin.
00:32:33 – 00:32:36: You earn a specific punishment for a specific sin.
00:32:36 – 00:32:41: There's a specific punishment for every sin, and there's a specific reward for every good
00:32:41 – 00:32:42: deed.
00:32:42 – 00:32:47: Now, the difference, and it's a tricky one for us to process because we've gotten so sloppy
00:32:47 – 00:32:52: about thinking and speaking about these things, for the Christian.
00:32:52 – 00:32:57: All of the good works that we do, which were prepared by God beforehand for us to do for
00:32:57 – 00:33:03: the benefit of our neighbor, we receive credit for them, even though they're God's gift
00:33:03 – 00:33:04: to us.
00:33:04 – 00:33:10: All of the evil things that the Christian does are not credited to him, but were instead
00:33:10 – 00:33:13: nailed to the cross with Christ.
00:33:13 – 00:33:18: So that on the last day when we are covered in Christ's blood and our robes are washed
00:33:18 – 00:33:22: white, we appear blameless before the throne of God.
00:33:22 – 00:33:23: That's how it works.
00:33:23 – 00:33:28: Christ atoning blood washes our robes white in the blood of the Lamb.
00:33:28 – 00:33:35: We stand before God sinless, not because we've committed no sin, but because Christ propitiating
00:33:35 – 00:33:40: sacrifice on the cross washed it away, because he paid the price for those sins.
00:33:40 – 00:33:43: The converse is true of unbelievers.
00:33:43 – 00:33:48: They had no good works in their life, no matter how laudable it may have seemed, because
00:33:48 – 00:33:51: they were not doing them in the name of God.
00:33:51 – 00:33:57: They have everything that they ever did as a sin, which Christ paid for, and they rejected
00:33:57 – 00:33:58: that propitiation.
00:33:58 – 00:34:00: They said, I don't believe in God.
00:34:00 – 00:34:03: I don't want him to have anything to do with this.
00:34:03 – 00:34:04: These are my sins.
00:34:04 – 00:34:06: These aren't sins at all.
00:34:06 – 00:34:11: However they want to cut it, they say, not God's problem, stay out of my business.
00:34:11 – 00:34:17: On Judgment Day, it's God's business, and Christ's atoning sacrifice does not apply
00:34:17 – 00:34:20: to them because they rejected it.
00:34:20 – 00:34:26: It's not in the sense of the Reformed limited atonement where God only died for some, as
00:34:26 – 00:34:28: Corey said earlier.
00:34:28 – 00:34:32: The beginning of John's gospel is very important.
00:34:32 – 00:34:37: When it talks about in the beginning was the word, everything in the universe was made
00:34:37 – 00:34:39: through Christ.
00:34:39 – 00:34:42: This is paralleled in the cross.
00:34:42 – 00:34:46: Everything in the universe was redeemed through Christ.
00:34:46 – 00:34:52: Only Christ could do that, by whom all things were made, through whom all things were redeemed.
00:34:52 – 00:34:57: There's a perfect symmetry there that cannot be achieved anywhere else, which is why it's
00:34:57 – 00:35:00: ludicrous for any man to think, well, maybe I can do something.
00:35:00 – 00:35:02: Are you kidding me?
00:35:02 – 00:35:04: It's utterly preposterous.
00:35:04 – 00:35:06: No Christian believes that.
00:35:06 – 00:35:09: No Christian believes that he can do anything to save himself.
00:35:09 – 00:35:14: I think it's one of the greatest weaknesses of Protestant doctrine that we're still fighting
00:35:14 – 00:35:20: the 15th century heresy that we can earn some of our salvation.
00:35:20 – 00:35:21: We dealt with that.
00:35:21 – 00:35:22: We got rid of it.
00:35:22 – 00:35:27: We purified Christian doctrine and said, no, all the sacrifices at the cross.
00:35:27 – 00:35:30: Okay, it's a settled matter.
00:35:30 – 00:35:34: We don't need to relitigate that in every single sentence of every single sermon.
00:35:34 – 00:35:39: In every single conversation we have about these things, there's more to say about the
00:35:39 – 00:35:42: world and about the Christian life than saying that Jesus took care of it all.
00:35:42 – 00:35:46: It's the most important thing, but it's not the only thing.
00:35:46 – 00:35:48: This is about the end then.
00:35:48 – 00:35:53: As a Christian who's been redeemed, who has the Holy Spirit to be able to understand what
00:35:53 – 00:35:59: God has written, when we see people saying things like, all sins are equal, you can't
00:35:59 – 00:36:00: judge man.
00:36:00 – 00:36:05: That's just his sin and your sin is even worse, except all sins are equal.
00:36:05 – 00:36:09: It falls apart on its face, but the important part is what they want you to do is not tell
00:36:09 – 00:36:11: anyone else about their sin.
00:36:11 – 00:36:13: That's what Satan wants.
00:36:13 – 00:36:17: He doesn't want anyone to hear that they're sinning until it's too late, until they've
00:36:17 – 00:36:24: committed such egregious sins that they feel that they're beyond redemption, which is false,
00:36:24 – 00:36:26: but it's a lie that's easy to believe.
00:36:26 – 00:36:32: It's one of the hardest things for someone when they hit rock bottom and in some aspect
00:36:32 – 00:36:36: of their life to realize they can't do it themselves.
00:36:36 – 00:36:40: That is when they're ready to hear the gospel, to hear that God did everything.
00:36:40 – 00:36:42: You don't have to do anything.
00:36:42 – 00:36:48: God is giving you the gift of faith and belief, receive it with thanksgiving, and it's yours.
00:36:48 – 00:36:54: To emphasize what you said about the difference between the works of those who are in Christ
00:36:54 – 00:37:01: versus those who are not, we often hear the term virtuous pagan, at least if you read
00:37:01 – 00:37:04: theology and are in those circles.
00:37:04 – 00:37:10: And there is and there is not such a thing as a virtuous pagan.
00:37:10 – 00:37:15: The pagan who lives a morally upstanding life, who doesn't murder, doesn't cheat, doesn't
00:37:15 – 00:37:23: steal, doesn't commit adultery, etc., is a virtuous pagan according to the law.
00:37:25 – 00:37:33: Because you can do the works of the law according to human reason and free will.
00:37:33 – 00:37:35: You cannot do them perfectly.
00:37:35 – 00:37:38: You will always fall short, and so you will always sin.
00:37:38 – 00:37:46: However, as was stated, they are not credited to you as good works because you are not in Christ.
00:37:46 – 00:37:53: And so as a sinner, everything you do is sin, everything.
00:37:53 – 00:38:02: Murder, sin, giving candy to a child, sin, saving a drowning animal, sin, everything
00:38:02 – 00:38:05: you do as a sinner is sin.
00:38:05 – 00:38:11: And so, in that sense, there is no such thing as a virtuous pagan.
00:38:11 – 00:38:16: What the pagan cannot do, what the person outside Christ cannot do, is what the person
00:38:16 – 00:38:19: in Christ can do.
00:38:19 – 00:38:25: And instead of the works of the law, we are talking about the fruits of the spirit.
00:38:25 – 00:38:31: Now these are theological categories, and it is important to keep that clear.
00:38:31 – 00:38:35: Because the good works of Christians are also done according to the law, and we'll get into
00:38:35 – 00:38:37: that in a future episode.
00:38:37 – 00:38:42: But in this sense, this limited technical sense, the works of the law are those things
00:38:42 – 00:38:49: that can be done according to human reason, even by the pagan.
00:38:49 – 00:38:55: The fruits of the spirit are those things that are done in Christ through faith.
00:38:55 – 00:39:01: Those are credited to the believer as good works, on account of Christ's sacrifice,
00:39:01 – 00:39:03: on his behalf.
00:39:03 – 00:39:06: And so if you are in Christ, you have good works.
00:39:06 – 00:39:12: The good works you do are credited to you, as was stated, the sins you do are not credited
00:39:12 – 00:39:18: to your account because they were washed away in Christ, they are washed clean by his blood.
00:39:18 – 00:39:25: But again, the pagan does not actually have good works, because they are tainted because
00:39:25 – 00:39:29: the pagan is a sinner, not in Christ, not forgiven.
00:39:29 – 00:39:35: And so if you are not in Christ, you have only sins, no good works.
00:39:35 – 00:39:40: If you are in Christ, ultimately, when you are brought before the judgment seat and the
00:39:40 – 00:39:46: books are open and your deeds are read, you will have only good works, no sins.
00:39:46 – 00:39:53: The next day Moses said to the people, You have sinned a great sin, and now I will go
00:39:53 – 00:39:54: up to the Lord.
00:39:54 – 00:39:56: Perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.
00:39:56 – 00:40:01: So Moses returned to the Lord and said, Alas, this people have sinned a great sin, they
00:40:01 – 00:40:05: have made for themselves gods of gold.
00:40:05 – 00:40:11: I want to read this in particular because this, in addition to having the phrase great sin
00:40:11 – 00:40:18: in English and ESB, I didn't look at the Hebrew, but I'm sure it's faithful.
00:40:18 – 00:40:23: Moses was not only highlighting that some sins are better or worse than others, but
00:40:23 – 00:40:29: this was talking about the greatest of all sins, which is a violation of the First Commandment.
00:40:29 – 00:40:33: Because what had just happened, Moses had gone up the mountain, he had received the
00:40:33 – 00:40:37: Ten Commandments, he'd come back down, and what did he find?
00:40:37 – 00:40:41: He found that the Jews had abandoned God.
00:40:41 – 00:40:47: They had made the golden calf so that they could worship it and say this idol is what
00:40:47 – 00:40:49: brought us out of Egypt.
00:40:49 – 00:40:55: God had literally just rescued them and they apostatized while in full view of the fiery
00:40:55 – 00:40:59: pillar of his presence on the mountain.
00:40:59 – 00:41:04: It's stunning to me to think about that scene where the very God who had rescued them miraculously
00:41:04 – 00:41:10: from the Egypt, brought them into the desert, was speaking with the man who had led them
00:41:10 – 00:41:12: out of captivity.
00:41:12 – 00:41:16: There's a visible pillar of smoke and fire on the mountain.
00:41:16 – 00:41:17: They could hear thunder.
00:41:17 – 00:41:19: It was a huge scene.
00:41:19 – 00:41:23: It was very visually dramatic, especially for being so unnatural.
00:41:23 – 00:41:24: What did they do?
00:41:24 – 00:41:29: They couldn't last 40 days without Moses telling them to bathe.
00:41:29 – 00:41:33: They had an errand, melt down gold, and make a calf for them so that they could worship
00:41:33 – 00:41:35: and say this is our God now.
00:41:35 – 00:41:37: This calf led us out of Egypt.
00:41:37 – 00:41:41: This was a great scene because it was number one on the list.
00:41:41 – 00:41:43: You shall have no other gods before me.
00:41:43 – 00:41:44: He comes down.
00:41:44 – 00:41:45: Was he fine?
00:41:45 – 00:41:47: They have another God before him.
00:41:47 – 00:41:52: Before is an interesting word in that you shall have no other gods before me.
00:41:52 – 00:41:54: It means in my presence.
00:41:54 – 00:41:56: It doesn't mean in terms of rank.
00:41:56 – 00:41:58: It doesn't mean before or after.
00:41:58 – 00:42:05: It means before is in I see before me tons of soil to quote Spooner.
00:42:05 – 00:42:08: When something is before God, it means that he can see it.
00:42:08 – 00:42:10: God is omniscient.
00:42:10 – 00:42:12: What is before God?
00:42:12 – 00:42:13: Everything in the universe.
00:42:13 – 00:42:14: Everything beyond the universe.
00:42:14 – 00:42:17: Anything exists, it is before God.
00:42:17 – 00:42:20: God is in the place where there is no place.
00:42:20 – 00:42:22: He knows everything.
00:42:22 – 00:42:29: When it says you shall have no other gods before me, it means you cannot have a single
00:42:29 – 00:42:31: God apart from me.
00:42:31 – 00:42:32: It's not in terms of rank.
00:42:32 – 00:42:37: It's not saying God will be number one and then jewelry will be number two and football
00:42:37 – 00:42:39: will be number three.
00:42:39 – 00:42:44: It's saying you will have only God anywhere in your heart, in your mind, in your actions,
00:42:44 – 00:42:45: only me.
00:42:45 – 00:42:50: Moses came down and he found them abandoning that right off the bat.
00:42:50 – 00:42:54: He called it a grace and they required him to go back up the mountain and speak to God.
00:42:54 – 00:43:01: There's also an additional measure of egregiousness and irony that some readers will miss in this
00:43:01 – 00:43:02: particular section.
00:43:02 – 00:43:10: If you're not familiar with Egyptian paganism mythology, really what they were fashioning
00:43:10 – 00:43:15: for themselves was an Egyptian idol.
00:43:15 – 00:43:21: God had just destroyed Egypt, drowned Pharaoh and his army in the Red Sea, demonstrated
00:43:21 – 00:43:28: his power over a course of however long it took for the plagues in the Exodus.
00:43:28 – 00:43:38: And the Israelites in full view of God physically manifested speaking to Moses on a mountain
00:43:38 – 00:43:46: decide to create a calf, a golden idol, probably related to Hathor who is represented often
00:43:46 – 00:43:51: as a cow, so an Egyptian goddess.
00:43:51 – 00:43:57: And so there's that additional level of apostasy here from the Israelites.
00:43:57 – 00:44:02: They're returning to the wickedness of the pagan religion with which they were familiar
00:44:02 – 00:44:11: in Egypt, despite what they just saw God do to Egypt when he brought them out of Egypt.
00:44:11 – 00:44:18: There's an allusion to this in Matthew 22 when the Pharisees are trying to trick Jesus.
00:44:18 – 00:44:23: They see teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law, and Jesus said to them, You shall
00:44:23 – 00:44:28: love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
00:44:28 – 00:44:30: This is the great and first commandment.
00:44:30 – 00:44:31: And the second is like it.
00:44:31 – 00:44:33: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
00:44:33 – 00:44:38: Of on these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.
00:44:38 – 00:44:42: And so basically what Jesus is describing to the Pharisees is the first table and the
00:44:42 – 00:44:44: second table of the law.
00:44:44 – 00:44:48: He's describing you shall have no other gods before me and the second and third commandments
00:44:48 – 00:44:51: that deal specifically with our relationship with God.
00:44:51 – 00:44:56: And then the second table is our relationship with man, beginning with parents and then
00:44:56 – 00:44:59: murder, adultery, and so forth.
00:44:59 – 00:45:05: So when Jesus says there's a first and a second commandment, that necessarily implies
00:45:05 – 00:45:08: that some sin is greater than others.
00:45:08 – 00:45:12: The only alternative, if you say that all sin is equal, is to say, well, I can violate
00:45:12 – 00:45:17: the first commandment and be an idolater, or I can do something else like steal my neighbor's
00:45:17 – 00:45:18: ox.
00:45:18 – 00:45:19: That's all the same.
00:45:19 – 00:45:22: Jesus literally says in Matthew 22, it's not the same.
00:45:22 – 00:45:25: He says the first and greatest commandment is our relationship to God.
00:45:25 – 00:45:29: And then the second commandment is our relationship to our neighbors.
00:45:29 – 00:45:30: And everything flows from that.
00:45:30 – 00:45:35: And as we've said in the past, when you look at the ordering of the commandments from one
00:45:35 – 00:45:37: through 10, it's greatest to least.
00:45:37 – 00:45:43: At least Lutherans, we put things like chattels in the 10th position and we put God in the
00:45:43 – 00:45:44: first position.
00:45:44 – 00:45:46: Don't commit adultery.
00:45:46 – 00:45:51: Don't steal your neighbor's ox or donkey or his slaves or his wife.
00:45:51 – 00:45:52: Those are both sins.
00:45:52 – 00:45:57: They're both damning sins, but they're at opposite ends of the spectrum of severity.
00:45:57 – 00:46:02: It is far worse to commit idolatry than it is to steal.
00:46:02 – 00:46:03: Stealing is bad.
00:46:03 – 00:46:05: Idolatry is worse.
00:46:05 – 00:46:06: Jesus says it.
00:46:06 – 00:46:07: We have to believe it.
00:46:07 – 00:46:10: And if we believe it, then we can't say all sins are equal.
00:46:10 – 00:46:16: There's going to be a lot of redundancy in this episode because there's so many passages.
00:46:16 – 00:46:22: The reason that we're doing this cumulative repetition of these various verses, and we're
00:46:22 – 00:46:23: only scratching the surface here.
00:46:23 – 00:46:27: There are many, many passages that deal with this specific issue.
00:46:27 – 00:46:29: These are some of the key ones.
00:46:29 – 00:46:34: But what these litany of passages show us are that you cannot possibly believe that all
00:46:34 – 00:46:37: sins are equal if you believe any part of the Bible.
00:46:37 – 00:46:40: You can turn to pretty much any book and you're going to find the same story.
00:46:40 – 00:46:44: And that story is that there are some sins that are greater and there are some sins that
00:46:44 – 00:46:45: are lesser.
00:46:45 – 00:46:50: Not for the purpose of salvation, but for the purpose of sin against God and the degree
00:46:50 – 00:46:55: to which it offends him and the degree to which the penalty that Christ paid on the cross.
00:46:55 – 00:46:56: That's important.
00:46:56 – 00:46:58: God says it's important.
00:46:58 – 00:47:00: This isn't us making something up.
00:47:00 – 00:47:02: This is not podcast or theology.
00:47:02 – 00:47:04: It's literally just reading what's in the Bible.
00:47:04 – 00:47:07: So the reason we're saying the same thing over and over again is that God said the same
00:47:07 – 00:47:09: thing over and over again.
00:47:09 – 00:47:13: And when the world is saying the opposite thing over and over again, at some point you
00:47:13 – 00:47:18: have to wonder which book are they reading because they cannot be reading the Bible if
00:47:18 – 00:47:20: they're saying that all sins are equal.
00:47:20 – 00:47:26: To add just a little footnote that isn't actually, well is from the Bible and isn't
00:47:26 – 00:47:27: at the same time.
00:47:27 – 00:47:32: Just for those who are going to be listening with a more critical ear, yes, I am well aware
00:47:32 – 00:47:42: that the word underlying calf in Exodus 32 is Igel and the feminine version is Iglah.
00:47:42 – 00:47:48: But it was most likely still in some way related to Hathor because, yes, Hathor is typically
00:47:48 – 00:47:54: represented as a female deity and thus a cow and not a young bull.
00:47:54 – 00:47:58: Just adding that for anyone listening with a critical ear.
00:47:58 – 00:48:00: Keeping it out of the comments.
00:48:00 – 00:48:06: Yeah, basically I'm heading off having to field a comment somewhere on that point.
00:48:06 – 00:48:07: That's something that people probably know.
00:48:07 – 00:48:13: This is Cordy and I talk, we'll sometimes make these odd asides, brushing aside criticisms
00:48:13 – 00:48:16: of what we've just said.
00:48:16 – 00:48:20: We're such perfectionists that we're both sitting here continually critiquing what we're
00:48:20 – 00:48:22: saying to ourselves.
00:48:22 – 00:48:26: As I'm speaking, I have a running monologue where I'm basically heckling myself saying,
00:48:26 – 00:48:27: well, that's not right.
00:48:27 – 00:48:28: That's not right.
00:48:28 – 00:48:29: You should do that better.
00:48:29 – 00:48:30: You should have said this differently.
00:48:30 – 00:48:31: Literally as I'm talking, as I'm thinking.
00:48:31 – 00:48:37: And so sometimes our senses get longer and longer as we sort of tack on all these additional
00:48:37 – 00:48:39: seemingly less important things.
00:48:39 – 00:48:44: It's specifically because we're trying to be clear and precise in our speech and not
00:48:44 – 00:48:45: make mistakes.
00:48:45 – 00:48:51: And so we literally harangue ourselves in our heads so that we find all the faults.
00:48:51 – 00:48:55: So hopefully there's not much left for someone else to find fault with.
00:48:55 – 00:48:59: That's something that's kind of endemic to the way our brains work.
00:48:59 – 00:49:03: But I wish the more people sort of took that care as they approached these things because
00:49:03 – 00:49:08: just shouting catchphrases that sound nice and that make you friends with the world.
00:49:08 – 00:49:12: If it puts you at odds with scripture, we think that's a big deal.
00:49:12 – 00:49:14: That's why we're taking the time to do this.
00:49:14 – 00:49:18: That's why we're suffering the indignities that Corey and I have suffered in our personal
00:49:18 – 00:49:20: lives for the sake of doing this.
00:49:20 – 00:49:21: This has not been fun.
00:49:21 – 00:49:22: This has not been easy.
00:49:22 – 00:49:25: We've taken abuse for saying these things.
00:49:25 – 00:49:26: For what?
00:49:26 – 00:49:27: For doing Bible studies.
00:49:27 – 00:49:28: Okay.
00:49:28 – 00:49:32: If people want to heap abuse on us for doing Bible studies, I think that if there's a sin
00:49:32 – 00:49:37: here, the Bible study is a lesser sin than he who would attack us for it.
00:49:37 – 00:49:41: It's funny that the same people who say all sins are equal are also the first to say that
00:49:41 – 00:49:43: Corey and I are chief among sinners.
00:49:43 – 00:49:47: Maybe that'll be a subject for another episode.
00:49:47 – 00:49:49: The next passage I want to read is from Luke 12.
00:49:49 – 00:49:55: And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to
00:49:55 – 00:49:58: his will will receive a severe beating.
00:49:58 – 00:50:03: But the one who did not know and did what deserved a beating will receive a light beating.
00:50:03 – 00:50:07: Everyone to whom much was given of him, much will be required.
00:50:07 – 00:50:12: And from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.
00:50:12 – 00:50:19: So again, this is emphasizing not only the knowledge and forethought of the action of
00:50:19 – 00:50:24: the individual, but it's emphasizing that they're greater and lesser punishments and
00:50:24 – 00:50:30: that to some degree, the punishment for he who does not know what he's doing will be
00:50:30 – 00:50:31: lesser.
00:50:31 – 00:50:32: There's still punishment.
00:50:32 – 00:50:36: You know, this passage, this is from ESV and so I didn't fix where I said servant.
00:50:36 – 00:50:38: It means slave.
00:50:38 – 00:50:39: You don't beat servants.
00:50:39 – 00:50:40: You beat slaves.
00:50:40 – 00:50:42: You beat someone who's your property.
00:50:42 – 00:50:43: Maybe you should.
00:50:43 – 00:50:44: Maybe you shouldn't.
00:50:44 – 00:50:45: This passage condones it.
00:50:45 – 00:50:50: It says, the greater beating will go to the slave who has sinned more greatly.
00:50:50 – 00:50:54: The lesser beating will go to the slave who has sinned more lightly.
00:50:54 – 00:50:58: Lighter beating, lighter consequence for a lighter sin.
00:50:58 – 00:51:03: Again, it doesn't explicitly say greater and lesser degrees of sin, but it's the same principle
00:51:03 – 00:51:07: playing out again because it's exactly the point.
00:51:07 – 00:51:10: These things are everywhere in scripture.
00:51:10 – 00:51:14: And once you start to understand that this notion of equality and of everything being
00:51:14 – 00:51:19: equal and identical, it's antithetical to scripture.
00:51:19 – 00:51:22: It's something new in a new religion.
00:51:22 – 00:51:25: It's not something that came from God.
00:51:25 – 00:51:27: Next one I wanted to cover was from James 3.
00:51:27 – 00:51:30: It's a very short one that we've referred to before.
00:51:30 – 00:51:34: Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will
00:51:34 – 00:51:38: be judged with the stricter judgment.
00:51:38 – 00:51:44: Again, if everything is the same, how can there possibly be a stricter judgment?
00:51:44 – 00:51:47: And consider this.
00:51:47 – 00:51:51: This is being written about Christians.
00:51:51 – 00:51:56: It's not being written about a stricter judgment in terms of believer and unbeliever.
00:51:56 – 00:51:57: This is not about soteriology.
00:51:57 – 00:52:00: This is not about whether or not someone's saved.
00:52:00 – 00:52:05: It's saying that even if you are saved, if you choose to become a teacher, you opt into
00:52:05 – 00:52:10: a stricter judgment, you will face harsher consequences.
00:52:11 – 00:52:17: Now, in heaven, harsher consequences don't mean punishment, but there are degrees of
00:52:17 – 00:52:18: glory in heaven.
00:52:18 – 00:52:23: We probably won't get in some of those passages today, but it's clear that the rewards in
00:52:23 – 00:52:25: heaven are also given unequally.
00:52:25 – 00:52:32: When Jesus says the first shall be last and the last shall be first, how is that not unequal?
00:52:32 – 00:52:37: All of these phrases that are so common to the way God speaks about heaven and about
00:52:37 – 00:52:45: reordering the ungodly, worldly life and a heavenly life, it's all about inequality.
00:52:45 – 00:52:48: The first shall be last.
00:52:48 – 00:52:49: That's not fair.
00:52:49 – 00:52:50: That's not equal.
00:52:50 – 00:52:55: That's saying that someone who lived like a king today and did not live in a gogly fashion,
00:52:55 – 00:52:59: even if he's saved, he's not going to be first in heaven.
00:52:59 – 00:53:00: He's going to sit at the back.
00:53:00 – 00:53:02: He's not going to have the place of honor.
00:53:02 – 00:53:06: It's going to be the widows and the orphans and those who had the least and were the most
00:53:06 – 00:53:11: humble and seemed the most pathetic.
00:53:11 – 00:53:16: Those will be the ones whom God elevates as the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
00:53:16 – 00:53:17: It's not just about station in life.
00:53:17 – 00:53:20: It's not just about class system.
00:53:20 – 00:53:22: It's also about works.
00:53:22 – 00:53:28: When God judges more strictly teachers, those who have taught faithfully will receive great
00:53:28 – 00:53:29: rewards.
00:53:29 – 00:53:34: Those who have taught unfaithfully but were still saved, they're not going to get much
00:53:34 – 00:53:35: for it.
00:53:35 – 00:53:37: We don't know how that plays out.
00:53:37 – 00:53:41: We're not giving specifics because God gives none, but God absolutely says that these things
00:53:41 – 00:53:43: will occur.
00:53:43 – 00:53:49: All we in the 21st century need to know is that it's unequal.
00:53:49 – 00:53:52: Some get more, some get less in heaven.
00:53:52 – 00:53:59: In perfection, some get more and some get less based on the degree of their sin today.
00:54:00 – 00:54:06: For a teacher to be judged with stricter judgment based on his teachings implies that there
00:54:06 – 00:54:11: are some teachings that are sinful and that the greater degree of sin and teaching, the
00:54:11 – 00:54:15: greater lack of glory will be given for that teacher.
00:54:15 – 00:54:20: It may well be a teacher who spent his whole life teaching falsely but somehow was filled
00:54:20 – 00:54:21: still a Christian.
00:54:21 – 00:54:24: I don't know what he's going to get in heaven.
00:54:24 – 00:54:25: He's going to be in heaven.
00:54:25 – 00:54:30: He's going to be perfect for him but will not be as greatly rewarding to him as if he
00:54:30 – 00:54:32: had been a faithful teacher.
00:54:32 – 00:54:34: Again, we don't know what that looks like.
00:54:34 – 00:54:35: It's not our business.
00:54:35 – 00:54:36: It's not our problem.
00:54:36 – 00:54:37: It's in God's hands.
00:54:37 – 00:54:39: We can trust that he will act perfectly.
00:54:39 – 00:54:43: All we need to know is that when we run around saying, yeah, it's all the same man, that
00:54:43 – 00:54:45: we're not agreeing with what God says.
00:54:45 – 00:54:52: Yes, of course, we do know that we have elected to be subject to the stricter judgment because
00:54:52 – 00:54:59: what we're doing here is teaching and we are both well aware of that fact.
00:54:59 – 00:55:03: But I would also highlight here that I do think the implication that comes along with
00:55:03 – 00:55:09: this is something to which Christians should pay attention.
00:55:09 – 00:55:14: There are different kinds of teachers, the same as there are different degrees of sin.
00:55:14 – 00:55:21: If you are a pastor, you are a teacher in the church, you are an overseer, you have responsibilities
00:55:21 – 00:55:27: and you will be held to account for what you did or did not do in this life.
00:55:27 – 00:55:31: When you spoke falsely, when you minimized parts of scripture, when you ignored parts
00:55:31 – 00:55:35: of scripture, God will ask you about that at the judgment.
00:55:35 – 00:55:39: You will have to give an answer.
00:55:39 – 00:55:45: But there are other teachers as well and those teachers will be held accountable for what
00:55:45 – 00:55:49: they did or did not do in the office that was given them by God.
00:55:49 – 00:55:53: It's not going to be the same sort of stricter judgment as someone who stands up to teach
00:55:53 – 00:55:55: in the church.
00:55:55 – 00:55:58: That is what is in view here.
00:55:58 – 00:56:03: But if you're a parent, you're a teacher and you will be called to account for whether
00:56:03 – 00:56:06: you taught your children correctly or not.
00:56:06 – 00:56:11: If you are an employer, you will be called to account for how you treated and dealt with
00:56:11 – 00:56:13: your employees.
00:56:13 – 00:56:18: Now there may be some complexity there when it comes to teaching the faith to employees
00:56:18 – 00:56:25: and how much of a duty an employer has there is up for debate.
00:56:25 – 00:56:30: But if you are the master of a house, you are responsible for everyone in your household.
00:56:30 – 00:56:36: You are a teacher by virtue of your office and it is your duty to fulfill that faithfully.
00:56:36 – 00:56:45: Again, no, you will not be held to this particular high level of scrutiny and strictness because
00:56:45 – 00:56:47: you did not stand up to teach in the church.
00:56:47 – 00:56:52: You did not deliberately stand up to handle the things of God.
00:56:52 – 00:57:00: But by virtue of the office given you by God, you do have a lesser version of this duty.
00:57:00 – 00:57:05: And it is vitally important for Christians to bear that in mind when they go about their
00:57:05 – 00:57:06: daily tasks.
00:57:06 – 00:57:10: If you are a father, are you training your wife?
00:57:10 – 00:57:12: Are you training your children?
00:57:12 – 00:57:16: Are you training those who work in your household if you have others who work in your household
00:57:16 – 00:57:18: or live in your household?
00:57:18 – 00:57:25: Are you doing the things God gave you to do by virtue of the office he gave you?
00:57:25 – 00:57:32: If you are not, you are falling short of the mark and falling short of the mark is one
00:57:32 – 00:57:37: of the things that is meant by one of the words we translate as sin.
00:57:37 – 00:57:39: Do not sin by omission.
00:57:39 – 00:57:45: Yes, it is possible to sin by commission, but it is also possible to sin by omission,
00:57:45 – 00:57:50: which simply means it is possible to sin by doing something, and it is possible to sin
00:57:50 – 00:57:54: by failing to do something that you should have done.
00:57:54 – 00:57:59: And for specific details on what we mean when we say that we are teachers, go back and listen
00:57:59 – 00:58:02: to the first episode of Stonequire, episode number one.
00:58:02 – 00:58:08: We specifically talked about the difference between what a pastor does and what a teacher
00:58:08 – 00:58:11: who is addressing an anonymous audience.
00:58:11 – 00:58:17: So there's no accountability for anyone listening to us, to us.
00:58:17 – 00:58:22: There's no relationship between you as a listener where we hold you accountable for what we
00:58:22 – 00:58:23: are teaching.
00:58:23 – 00:58:26: However, what we are teaching, we are accountable to God for.
00:58:26 – 00:58:27: That is the difference.
00:58:27 – 00:58:31: A pastor is accountable for the souls in his parish.
00:58:31 – 00:58:37: A teacher in an audience hall doesn't have accountability in the same way.
00:58:37 – 00:58:39: He's not necessarily taking attendance.
00:58:39 – 00:58:40: He doesn't know who's there.
00:58:40 – 00:58:45: In the lecture, he shows up, people show up, you listen, you take it or leave it.
00:58:45 – 00:58:48: When we say that we are teachers, it is in that sense.
00:58:48 – 00:58:49: We are teaching from Scripture.
00:58:49 – 00:58:56: We're saying things that God says, and we're giving you what we believe is a faithful explanation
00:58:56 – 00:59:00: for those things, particularly as they relate to the world today.
00:59:00 – 00:59:05: But that is not to say that it is taught with any authority beyond the authority of Scripture
00:59:05 – 00:59:06: itself.
00:59:06 – 00:59:11: We're not making any claim-based credentials or anything.
00:59:11 – 00:59:12: Take it or leave it.
00:59:12 – 00:59:15: If what we say is good, it's because you agree with Scripture.
00:59:15 – 00:59:20: If you don't like it, okay, if you don't take your arguments, that's between you and
00:59:20 – 00:59:21: God.
00:59:21 – 00:59:23: If we're wrong, we answer to God.
00:59:23 – 00:59:25: If you're wrong, you answer to God.
00:59:25 – 00:59:27: We don't have to worry about that.
00:59:27 – 00:59:33: And again, from the Luke 12 passage, everyone to whom much has been given of him, much
00:59:33 – 00:59:35: will be required.
00:59:35 – 00:59:37: We're smart.
00:59:37 – 00:59:38: We're good at this.
00:59:38 – 00:59:43: Even if someone thinks that what we're saying is false, particularly those who are hate
00:59:43 – 00:59:48: listening who believe that we're false teachers, they admit that we're extremely good at it.
00:59:48 – 00:59:52: Those who listen and like what we say also think that we're good at this.
00:59:52 – 00:59:58: We've had a very warm and welcome and widespread reception to the way that we're explaining
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things on Stone Choir because we're good at it.
01:00:02 – 01:00:05: The reason we're doing it is that much has been given to us.
01:00:05 – 01:00:08: What were we doing the year before we started this podcast?
01:00:08 – 01:00:12: We were not using our gifts the way we're using them now.
01:00:12 – 01:00:13: That was sin.
01:00:13 – 01:00:15: We should have been doing this earlier.
01:00:15 – 01:00:16: We talked about it earlier.
01:00:16 – 01:00:21: I avoided it because I knew that harm would come to my family from evil men who would
01:00:21 – 01:00:25: seek to destroy me for the sake of telling the truth because that's the state of the
01:00:25 – 01:00:26: world today.
01:00:26 – 01:00:28: It's the state of the church today.
01:00:28 – 01:00:32: I put it off because I didn't want to cause harm to my family.
01:00:32 – 01:00:37: It eventually got to the point by the end of 2022 that it became clear that I had no
01:00:37 – 01:00:38: choice.
01:00:38 – 01:00:41: Corey and I talked about it and we finally pulled the trigger on something.
01:00:41 – 01:00:45: I think we both knew from the time we met that we pretty much had to do this.
01:00:45 – 01:00:46: Other people had talked about it before.
01:00:46 – 01:00:51: We joked about it for a couple of years, but we avoided it sinfully.
01:00:51 – 01:00:54: We stopped sinning and now we're doing it.
01:00:54 – 01:00:59: Now we're accused of sin for doing it, so again, in a minute we'll get to the judgmental
01:00:59 – 01:01:00: stuff.
01:01:00 – 01:01:04: I just want to point out, when we say we're teachers, it's not bragging.
01:01:04 – 01:01:07: The reason we're doing this is that we have been given gifts.
01:01:07 – 01:01:10: We believe as a matter of conscience we have no choice but to do this.
01:01:10 – 01:01:13: We believe that it's obedience to God for us to do this.
01:01:13 – 01:01:16: We don't have a choice.
01:01:16 – 01:01:21: I don't want to put it like it's that important to not remain silent.
01:01:21 – 01:01:23: That's why we named it what we did.
01:01:23 – 01:01:26: We give an explanation at the end of the first episode.
01:01:26 – 01:01:30: We are the stones who cry out, not because we feel that we have a vocation to, but we
01:01:30 – 01:01:34: have the aptitude to, and no one else was doing it.
01:01:34 – 01:01:38: Now that we've begun doing it, other men are beginning to speak up against the same evil.
01:01:38 – 01:01:42: That is what needs to happen because two guys of the podcast aren't going to do anything
01:01:42 – 01:01:43: by themselves.
01:01:43 – 01:01:46: If we're just shouting into the void, nothing changes.
01:01:46 – 01:01:52: It takes hearts and minds elsewhere in the church reorienting towards what God has said
01:01:52 – 01:01:58: so that we can all become faithful members of faithful churches again.
01:01:58 – 01:02:03: The last passage we're going to read in this section from Matthew 5 amplifies from James
01:02:03 – 01:02:04: 3.
01:02:04 – 01:02:09: Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to
01:02:09 – 01:02:13: do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches
01:02:13 – 01:02:16: them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
01:02:16 – 01:02:21: Again, this is reiterating greater punishment, greater reward, least and greatest.
01:02:21 – 01:02:24: Connishment maybe isn't quite the right word.
01:02:24 – 01:02:26: Called the least in heaven, you're still in heaven, so great.
01:02:26 – 01:02:27: You cross the finish line.
01:02:27 – 01:02:29: That is a cause for celebration.
01:02:29 – 01:02:32: However, you're going to be the least.
01:02:32 – 01:02:33: It's not a popularity contest.
01:02:33 – 01:02:37: It's not striving to be number one in heaven.
01:02:37 – 01:02:40: We all know that it's not us.
01:02:40 – 01:02:46: The scripture talks some about the ranking there, and we have a little bit.
01:02:46 – 01:02:47: We know that there's a ranking.
01:02:47 – 01:02:54: Jesus Disciples argued over who is going to be seated at his right hand, and the question
01:02:54 – 01:02:55: is valid.
01:02:55 – 01:02:57: The concern isn't our problem.
01:02:57 – 01:02:59: That's God's gift to give.
01:02:59 – 01:03:04: What we have to worry about is that in this life, our actions do not shame God, do not
01:03:04 – 01:03:09: waste the gifts that we've been given, and that if God says something, we're not ashamed
01:03:09 – 01:03:12: of it, and we just believe it and we follow through with it.
01:03:12 – 01:03:17: Again, to finish out this thing on all sins not being equal, we're not saying,
01:03:17 – 01:03:19: oh, if you obey God, you'll be saved.
01:03:19 – 01:03:23: You're already saved, so how can you best obey God?
01:03:23 – 01:03:27: You're just changing the word order, but it fundamentally alters the equation, and that's
01:03:27 – 01:03:30: the reason that these subjects are important.
01:03:30 – 01:03:36: To emphasize what was said about teachers and what will be demanded from teachers and
01:03:36 – 01:03:43: others, from him to whom much has been given will much be required.
01:03:43 – 01:03:45: That is the long and the short of it.
01:03:45 – 01:03:50: If you have been given a particular set of gifts and you are not using them in service
01:03:50 – 01:03:54: of the kingdom, you will be judged for that.
01:03:54 – 01:04:00: That's not necessarily going to damn you, but you are not going to receive the rewards
01:04:00 – 01:04:06: that you would have received if you had used the gifts given you by God to do the good
01:04:06 – 01:04:11: works He prepared for you to do.
01:04:11 – 01:04:16: And that is the case if God has given you intelligence, you should be using that in
01:04:16 – 01:04:18: service of the kingdom.
01:04:18 – 01:04:22: If He has given you material wealth, you should be using that in service of the kingdom.
01:04:22 – 01:04:29: If you are someone to whom God has given tens, hundreds of millions of dollars, you should
01:04:29 – 01:04:35: absolutely be using that to fix up church buildings, to fund the soup kitchens, to help
01:04:35 – 01:04:37: others in your congregation who are struggling.
01:04:37 – 01:04:42: You should be using the things God has given you to help others, because those are good
01:04:42 – 01:04:43: works.
01:04:43 – 01:04:48: Those are the good works prepared specifically for you, because He gave you the means to do
01:04:48 – 01:04:49: it.
01:04:49 – 01:04:54: And when it comes to teaching, if God has given you a perceptive mind, the ability to
01:04:54 – 01:05:01: process materials, knack for languages, whatever it happens to be, all of these various capacities
01:05:01 – 01:05:06: that go into being a good teacher of any particular subject.
01:05:06 – 01:05:12: Because you can serve God teaching law, the same as you can serve God teaching theology.
01:05:12 – 01:05:15: You can serve God making shoes.
01:05:15 – 01:05:19: If He gave you a particular dexterity, you're very good with your hands.
01:05:19 – 01:05:20: You may be a surgeon.
01:05:20 – 01:05:21: You may be a cobbler.
01:05:21 – 01:05:26: It just depends on the abilities that God has given you.
01:05:26 – 01:05:33: What will be required of you at the judgment is what you did with the gifts that were given
01:05:33 – 01:05:35: you by God.
01:05:35 – 01:05:43: Yes, there is the central judgment, the core matter upon which you are sent to the right
01:05:43 – 01:05:46: or the left hand, whether you are a sheep or a goat.
01:05:46 – 01:05:51: And that is whether or not you have faith in Christ.
01:05:51 – 01:05:57: But after that the books are opened and your deeds are read from them, and you will have
01:05:57 – 01:06:05: good works or you will not, depending on what you did in this life with what God gave you.
01:06:05 – 01:06:09: And that again is why we are doing this podcast.
01:06:09 – 01:06:15: God gave us the ability to look at these materials, to understand them, to read through the resources,
01:06:15 – 01:06:18: and then to teach others.
01:06:18 – 01:06:20: And so we are using the gifts that He gave us.
01:06:20 – 01:06:27: And as mentioned, in the balance of our lives here to four, we've used those gifts largely
01:06:27 – 01:06:29: for other things.
01:06:29 – 01:06:31: I've taught a little bit in the church in the past.
01:06:31 – 01:06:36: I taught through part of Genesis until COVID kind of killed that.
01:06:36 – 01:06:41: But for most of my life, no, I didn't focus on these things and use the gifts in the way
01:06:41 – 01:06:43: that I should have been using them all along.
01:06:43 – 01:06:46: I should have been doing this for far longer than I have.
01:06:46 – 01:06:49: We both recognize that.
01:06:49 – 01:06:57: But it is better to begin doing the things God wants you to do today than saying, oh,
01:06:57 – 01:07:03: well, I didn't do it for the last ten years, so it's already too late.
01:07:03 – 01:07:08: That's just Satan again telling you you've committed too many sins over too long of a
01:07:08 – 01:07:09: period.
01:07:09 – 01:07:10: They're too great.
01:07:10 – 01:07:11: They're too heinous.
01:07:11 – 01:07:12: God couldn't possibly forgive you.
01:07:12 – 01:07:14: And that's false.
01:07:14 – 01:07:17: Your sins are already forgiven.
01:07:17 – 01:07:19: Start doing the good works now.
01:07:19 – 01:07:22: That is part of Christian life.
01:07:22 – 01:07:24: No good works do not save you.
01:07:24 – 01:07:27: Again, we went over this five hundred years ago.
01:07:27 – 01:07:29: We had this fight.
01:07:29 – 01:07:35: We won because we resorted to Scripture and the adversaries did not.
01:07:35 – 01:07:37: Good works will not save you.
01:07:37 – 01:07:41: Good works do not contribute to your justification.
01:07:41 – 01:07:44: Good works do not make you ready for justification.
01:07:44 – 01:07:47: Good works do not complete your justification.
01:07:47 – 01:07:53: Good works do nothing for your justification.
01:07:53 – 01:08:00: But you still have to do them as a Christian because a living faith will produce fruit.
01:08:00 – 01:08:05: The same as a living tree, a living tree, a healthy fruit tree produces fruit.
01:08:05 – 01:08:12: If your faith is a living and healthy tree, it will produce good works because those are
01:08:12 – 01:08:17: the fruit of a living Christian faith.
01:08:17 – 01:08:21: And so if you have not been doing those works, if you have not been using the gifts God gave
01:08:21 – 01:08:25: you, start now.
01:08:25 – 01:08:31: And so we will finish up today with one more passage also from Matthew being Sermon on
01:08:31 – 01:08:33: the Mount.
01:08:33 – 01:08:37: You have heard that it was said, you shall not commit adultery, but I say to you that
01:08:37 – 01:08:42: everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with
01:08:42 – 01:08:43: her in his heart.
01:08:43 – 01:08:48: If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away, for it is better
01:08:48 – 01:08:53: that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.
01:08:53 – 01:08:58: And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away, for it is better
01:08:58 – 01:09:04: that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
01:09:04 – 01:09:10: And so what we see here in the teaching on lust or adultery on the Sermon of the Mount,
01:09:10 – 01:09:18: in the Sermon of the Mount is you have a progression of sin from least terrible to most terrible.
01:09:18 – 01:09:24: The ultimate end of this chain is not actually listed by Christ, because the ultimate end
01:09:24 – 01:09:27: of course is actual adultery.
01:09:27 – 01:09:34: And so it's the wandering eye that drives that grasping hand that pulls the body down
01:09:34 – 01:09:38: into adultery and ultimately the soul down into hell.
01:09:38 – 01:09:41: And that's what we're dealing with here.
01:09:41 – 01:09:47: You have a progression of sins and every step is worse than the previous one.
01:09:47 – 01:09:55: If you look at a woman with lustful intent, that is adulterous sin, but it is not as bad
01:09:55 – 01:10:02: as reaching out and grasping that woman, which is of course the physical manifestation, the
01:10:02 – 01:10:05: beginning of the ultimate act of adultery.
01:10:05 – 01:10:11: And that is not as bad as the actual act of adultery.
01:10:11 – 01:10:12: These are degrees of sin.
01:10:12 – 01:10:19: This is Christ's teaching on the progression of sin, because we see this with all sin.
01:10:19 – 01:10:23: Sin always gets worse.
01:10:23 – 01:10:28: And so the time to stop sinning, of course, is before you start, but the second best time
01:10:28 – 01:10:33: to stop sinning is the second you recognize it is sin.
01:10:33 – 01:10:36: Because if you continue, it will get worse.
01:10:36 – 01:10:41: You will commit more egregious sin, because it is always the little sin that Satan gets
01:10:41 – 01:10:47: you to commit, the little sin where you give into the flesh and some minor thing that leads
01:10:47 – 01:10:50: to another sin and another and another.
01:10:50 – 01:10:53: And ultimately you commit heinous sins.
01:10:53 – 01:10:58: You will, of course, ultimately apostatize if you continue down that path, because it
01:10:58 – 01:11:03: becomes a willful turning away from God at some point.
01:11:03 – 01:11:10: And so here on the teaching on lust, if you look at a woman lustfully and most of this
01:11:10 – 01:11:15: audience undoubtedly is male, you are going to do this in life.
01:11:15 – 01:11:18: You are a fallen and sinful being.
01:11:18 – 01:11:20: Your passions are not rightly ordered.
01:11:20 – 01:11:25: You are going to look at a woman with lustful intent, particularly given the reality of
01:11:25 – 01:11:29: our current social situation, let's call it.
01:11:29 – 01:11:34: Turn away, close the browser tab, walk away from the computer, whatever it happens to
01:11:34 – 01:11:38: be, whatever the temptation is, flee.
01:11:38 – 01:11:41: That is the advice of Scripture is to flee the temptation.
01:11:41 – 01:11:44: If you cannot flee the temptation, pray.
01:11:44 – 01:11:47: Pray the Lord's prayer.
01:11:47 – 01:11:52: Do the best you can to minimize this temptation because men are visual.
01:11:52 – 01:11:54: That's a simple fact.
01:11:54 – 01:12:00: And so looking at the woman with lustful intent, that desire that starts with the eye is going
01:12:00 – 01:12:02: to lead to more.
01:12:02 – 01:12:08: It may be you look at the woman first and then you decide to go and talk to this woman
01:12:08 – 01:12:11: who you have a lustful desire for.
01:12:11 – 01:12:13: You've committed an additional sin.
01:12:13 – 01:12:18: No talking to a woman is not a sin, but it's the intent you have behind it.
01:12:18 – 01:12:20: And then you ask her out for a drink.
01:12:20 – 01:12:24: The sin progresses, it gets worse.
01:12:24 – 01:12:28: Flee from the sin as soon as the temptation arises.
01:12:28 – 01:12:32: Yes, that internal desire, that concupiscence itself is sin.
01:12:32 – 01:12:36: You've already committed the sin when you've looked at her with lustful intent.
01:12:36 – 01:12:42: But you don't have to continue the chain and commit worse and more egregious sins.
01:12:42 – 01:12:49: So the Christian response is to turn to God because God will give you a way to escape from
01:12:49 – 01:12:50: the sin.
01:12:50 – 01:12:51: He promises that.
01:12:51 – 01:12:53: Look for that way to escape the sin.
01:12:53 – 01:12:59: If it's fleeing, if it's praying, minimizing whatever it is you can do, flee from the sin.
01:12:59 – 01:13:06: Do not follow this chain that Satan wants you to follow because what he wants you to do
01:13:06 – 01:13:09: is he wants you to start off thinking, well, looking isn't that bad.
01:13:09 – 01:13:13: Yeah, it's a sin, but there are much worse things I could be doing.
01:13:13 – 01:13:15: So I'll look.
01:13:15 – 01:13:22: He wants you to follow from that all the way down into the depths until you commit fornication,
01:13:22 – 01:13:24: adultery, whatever it happens to be.
01:13:24 – 01:13:29: And then he's going to turn around and tell you, look, you're just a sinner.
01:13:29 – 01:13:30: You've already committed this heinous act.
01:13:30 – 01:13:32: God won't forgive you for this.
01:13:32 – 01:13:34: You may as well keep sinning.
01:13:34 – 01:13:36: That's his end goal.
01:13:36 – 01:13:38: Do not follow him into the pit.
01:13:38 – 01:13:46: The important thing to note about the progression of sin is that looking lustfully is a sin.
01:13:46 – 01:13:49: And then any follow on are additional sins.
01:13:49 – 01:13:57: And I think this is something that the all sins are equal lie, actually weaponizes upfront.
01:13:57 – 01:14:03: It's not only at the end where you've already committed fully to a life of sin and you say,
01:14:03 – 01:14:05: well, I've already done, I may as well keep doing it.
01:14:05 – 01:14:12: If you believe that all sins are equal and you catch yourself looking lustfully at someone,
01:14:12 – 01:14:20: well, if all sins are equal, then the natural rationalization of that circumstance is what?
01:14:20 – 01:14:22: In for a penny, in for a pound.
01:14:22 – 01:14:27: I already looked at her with lust on my heart, which Jesus says is actual adultery.
01:14:27 – 01:14:31: So if I'm already an adulterer, why shouldn't I follow through?
01:14:31 – 01:14:33: Why shouldn't I complete the act?
01:14:33 – 01:14:34: I'm already guilty.
01:14:34 – 01:14:35: I may as well enjoy it too.
01:14:35 – 01:14:37: That's the trap.
01:14:37 – 01:14:42: If you believe that all sins are equal, then it's very, like that's, it's false.
01:14:42 – 01:14:47: That's what I just said is a lie, but it is a very easy lie that can be rationalized in
01:14:47 – 01:14:50: the mind of someone who's ultimately just self-serving.
01:14:50 – 01:14:55: Even if you listen to part of what these people are saying, God said, which is false.
01:14:55 – 01:14:56: God didn't say that.
01:14:56 – 01:14:58: God said these things.
01:14:58 – 01:15:03: But even if you listen to it and it informs your actions, the lie of all sins being equal
01:15:03 – 01:15:09: may very well cause you to commit greater sins because you don't believe they're greater.
01:15:09 – 01:15:11: See, that's the trap.
01:15:11 – 01:15:14: If all sins are equal, how can you commit a greater sin?
01:15:14 – 01:15:16: You're already a sinner, so who cares?
01:15:16 – 01:15:19: Like Jesus died for me, he took care of all this crap.
01:15:19 – 01:15:21: What do I need to worry about?
01:15:21 – 01:15:23: That's part of the ultimate trap.
01:15:23 – 01:15:25: It's not just that all sins are equal.
01:15:25 – 01:15:31: It's just that individual sin is equal to any other individual sin.
01:15:31 – 01:15:37: Necessarily, any volume of sins is also equal to a different volume of sins.
01:15:37 – 01:15:42: Someone who commits a hundred sins in a day versus someone who commits a thousand sins
01:15:42 – 01:15:45: in a day, there's no way to quantify that.
01:15:45 – 01:15:46: We don't even know how often we sin.
01:15:46 – 01:15:52: It's impossible, but even for the sake of argument, if it were quantifiable, both are
01:15:52 – 01:15:56: equally damned, but if you believe that all sins are equal, you can't say to the man who's
01:15:56 – 01:16:00: only committed a hundred sins, you got 900 more.
01:16:00 – 01:16:02: You're not going to be any worse than that other guy.
01:16:02 – 01:16:05: That's what these false teachings do to us.
01:16:05 – 01:16:07: They ultimately give license.
01:16:07 – 01:16:13: See, they're sold as a way of being loving and being caring and not being judgmental,
01:16:13 – 01:16:18: but ultimately what they do is they give license to greater and greater sin, which again,
01:16:18 – 01:16:22: ultimately always leads to separation of the soul from God.
01:16:22 – 01:16:28: It's what Satan wants, which is why this all sins are equal stuff is a pernicious sin.
01:16:28 – 01:16:33: It is a vicious, evil thing that is spread among us.
01:16:33 – 01:16:35: Some people have it say with good intentions.
01:16:35 – 01:16:40: Other people say because they know that they're covering for their own greater sins.
01:16:40 – 01:16:44: They know that they're up to no good and they don't want to be judged more harshly than
01:16:44 – 01:16:46: someone else.
01:16:46 – 01:16:51: They pump this smoke screen into the air so that you can't judge them.
01:16:51 – 01:16:54: I mentioned a couple of times we're going to be doing judge not in this episode.
01:16:54 – 01:16:56: We're already getting along on time.
01:16:56 – 01:17:00: Next week, we've decided we're going to be doing an episode on antinomianism where we're
01:17:00 – 01:17:05: specifically going to talk for probably close to two hours again, specifically about judge
01:17:05 – 01:17:12: not and the modern view was not modern, but it's a recurring theme of antinomianism or
01:17:12 – 01:17:19: against the law where people set their hearts against what God says because they don't like
01:17:19 – 01:17:22: the sound of it and judge not is a part of that.
01:17:22 – 01:17:26: If you say you can judge people, again, it's another smoke screen.
01:17:26 – 01:17:31: It's a defense mechanism to say, hey, man, my sins are no worse than yours or no better
01:17:31 – 01:17:32: than yours.
01:17:32 – 01:17:34: We're all equal, right?
01:17:34 – 01:17:36: So don't you tell me what's wrong with me?
01:17:36 – 01:17:41: Well, where does the law go in that world where you can't tell someone of their sin?
01:17:41 – 01:17:44: How can they be corrected?
01:17:44 – 01:17:49: If scripture is useful for rebuke and correction of error and yet rebuke is forbidden by this
01:17:49 – 01:17:55: modern morality, are you going to be Christian or are you going to be the modern religious
01:17:55 – 01:18:00: person that says he's Christian, that does things that kill the Christian faith?
01:18:00 – 01:18:04: That's what this comes down to, so we're going to do another episode on this.
01:18:04 – 01:18:09: It'll be not quite a follow-on, but a natural continuation of the essence of judging and
01:18:09 – 01:18:10: the law.
01:18:10 – 01:18:13: We've talked in the past about what the nature of the law is.
01:18:13 – 01:18:17: If you'd like a refresher, I'd recommend going back and listening to the episode on
01:18:17 – 01:18:18: Perfect Hatred.
01:18:18 – 01:18:23: We talk at some length about the manner in which the law is eternal and it's functionally,
01:18:23 – 01:18:26: it's God's eternal will.
01:18:26 – 01:18:31: What God wants for the world, what he wants for us individually, does not change.
01:18:31 – 01:18:35: The rules are not fickle.
01:18:35 – 01:18:36: God's not fickle.
01:18:36 – 01:18:38: The rules are not capricious.
01:18:38 – 01:18:44: What God desires is that which is good and holy, and when we set our minds and our hearts
01:18:44 – 01:18:49: at odds with that, we create the hell on earth that we're all experiencing now.
01:18:50 – 01:18:55: I'll just leave you with the thought that these things that seem small, like what's
01:18:55 – 01:19:00: the big deal if someone says all sins are equal and someone says they're not?
01:19:00 – 01:19:05: On a surface, it doesn't seem like it's much of a distinction because it's process especially.
01:19:05 – 01:19:08: One way or another, we know that Jesus paid for all our sins.
01:19:08 – 01:19:11: Who cares if one sin is worse than another?
01:19:11 – 01:19:13: Are you saying you're better than me?
01:19:13 – 01:19:14: No.
01:19:14 – 01:19:21: Nothing to do with an individual asserting being better or worse than another Christian.
01:19:21 – 01:19:25: The problem is that these are matters that ultimately separate souls from God.
01:19:25 – 01:19:26: Satan knows what he's doing.
01:19:26 – 01:19:31: When Satan comes up with this rhetoric, like all sins are equal, he knows it's going to
01:19:31 – 01:19:33: play in our hearts and minds.
01:19:33 – 01:19:35: He knows what we want to hear because it's license.
01:19:35 – 01:19:37: It's basically a free pass.
01:19:37 – 01:19:41: That's not how the pastors sell it, but it's how hearts receive it.
01:19:41 – 01:19:44: For some of the pastors, it's what they intend.
01:19:44 – 01:19:48: Some of the guys who are the biggest promoters of this stuff inevitably get outed as sexual
01:19:48 – 01:19:54: deviants who, in many cases, have been defrocked because they go so far because, hey, man,
01:19:54 – 01:19:55: all sins are equal.
01:19:55 – 01:19:57: I don't judge me.
01:19:57 – 01:19:58: This stuff matters.
01:19:58 – 01:20:02: Even the things that we talk about that seem like they're small issues.
01:20:02 – 01:20:04: If they were small, we wouldn't be talking about them.
01:20:04 – 01:20:10: We're talking about big issues that don't seem big because they slip under the radar.
01:20:10 – 01:20:14: Everything that sounds Christian is all right by the Christian ear.
01:20:14 – 01:20:19: The problem is that we no longer discern what is Christian from what is worldly.
01:20:19 – 01:20:24: All someone has to do is gussy it up and make it sound a little bit like Jesus, and a Christian
01:20:24 – 01:20:26: is going to say, oh, yeah, that sounds like morality.
01:20:26 – 01:20:28: I want that to be mine, too.
01:20:28 – 01:20:30: We focus on scripture.
01:20:30 – 01:20:32: Please, you focus on scripture.
01:20:32 – 01:20:34: Read your Bibles.
01:20:34 – 01:20:36: If what we said is wrong, you're going to find it in the Bible.
01:20:36 – 01:20:40: If what we said is right, you're going to find a bunch more of it because we're not cherry
01:20:40 – 01:20:41: taking.
01:20:41 – 01:20:45: We've spent an hour and a half talking about close to a dozen passages.
01:20:45 – 01:20:48: We could have done 50 more.
01:20:48 – 01:20:52: That should be a reminder to you that when someone says something, all sin is equal.
01:20:52 – 01:20:54: They're not talking about a sin from scripture.
01:20:54 – 01:20:56: They're not talking about God.
01:20:56 – 01:21:00: They're talking about teachings of demons.
01:21:00 – 01:21:06: It's a strident thing to say, but the difference between salvation and damnation is recognizing
01:21:06 – 01:21:08: our master's voice.
01:21:08 – 01:21:14: The Christian's master's voice is the voice of God, and that voice is found in scripture.
01:21:14 – 01:21:15: Others do not hear it.
01:21:15 – 01:21:20: They hear the voice of God, and they're like, it doesn't sound right to me.
01:21:20 – 01:21:23: Many of them hear it, and they think that sounds hateful.
01:21:23 – 01:21:25: It's a very common complaint, is that this stuff sounds hateful.
01:21:25 – 01:21:32: Well, if you think the voice of God sounds hateful, wait for judgment day, because Christians
01:21:32 – 01:21:37: are going to be lined up in one line, and everyone else is going to be lined up in another.
01:21:37 – 01:21:40: We're going to hear a very different type of voice.
01:21:40 – 01:21:43: Christians are going to hear, Welcome Thou Good and Faithful Servant, and I wish for
01:21:43 – 01:21:47: everyone who's listening that that would be what you heard here on the last day, because
01:21:47 – 01:21:49: I would like to hang out with all of you.
01:21:49 – 01:21:50: We have a stone choir booth.
01:21:50 – 01:21:54: We can sit around and talk and figure out all the stuff that we didn't understand.
01:21:54 – 01:21:58: It'll be exciting, and it'll be perfect, and we won't have to worry about fighting
01:21:58 – 01:22:04: and disagreements, but we have to get there, and Jesus paid the price for us to get there,
01:22:04 – 01:22:07: but we can't reject what he says.
01:22:07 – 01:22:12: So please read your Bibles, go to a faithful church, study this stuff, and take it seriously.
01:22:12 – 01:22:15: And as Corey said, flee evil.
01:22:15 – 01:22:17: It's okay to flee evil.
01:22:17 – 01:22:21: Whatever it is, whether it's lust or false teaching, or whatever your particular pest
01:22:21 – 01:22:26: sin is, if you're confronted with it, just turn around and walk away.
01:22:26 – 01:22:27: That's where repent means.
01:22:27 – 01:22:31: Metanoia means turning, turning away from.
01:22:31 – 01:22:34: Do a 180, back out of there.
01:22:34 – 01:22:40: Get away from the evil and focus on what God desires, and in the end, that's all we
01:22:40 – 01:22:42: can do in this life.
01:22:42 – 01:22:45: We can't be perfect, but we can try to go and sin no more.
01:22:45 – 01:22:47: So let's try that.
01:22:47 – 01:22:54: And not to bury the lead or add something on right at the end, but not to be remiss.
01:22:54 – 01:23:03: I want to point out exactly what it is when someone says all sins are equal.
01:23:03 – 01:23:07: The reason we are focusing on this, and as was mentioned, we could have gone through
01:23:07 – 01:23:08: dozens more passages.
01:23:08 – 01:23:12: We could point out Genesis 9.6.
01:23:12 – 01:23:17: There are different punishments for different sins, very strongly implying there are different
01:23:17 – 01:23:19: degrees of sin.
01:23:19 – 01:23:23: But I want to read the second commandment.
01:23:23 – 01:23:27: You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
01:23:27 – 01:23:33: And the explanation from the small catechism, what does this mean?
01:23:33 – 01:23:38: We should fear and love God, so that we may not curse, swear, use witchcraft, lie or deceive
01:23:38 – 01:23:47: by his name, but call upon it in every trouble, pray, praise, and give thanks.
01:23:47 – 01:23:51: And that was the point of this entire episode.
01:23:51 – 01:23:57: Because when you say that all sins are equal, you are lying and deceiving in his name.
01:23:57 – 01:23:59: You are violating the second commandment.
01:23:59 – 01:24:03: And as a reminder, the commandments are hierarchical.
01:24:03 – 01:24:08: You are committing one of the greatest sins, because of course the greater sin would be
01:24:08 – 01:24:13: to have another God, which is also implicated when this comes up.
01:24:13 – 01:24:18: But those who say that all sins are equal, are lying in his name, are deceiving in his
01:24:18 – 01:24:19: name.
01:24:20 – 01:24:25: And that is why this is important for Christians.
01:24:25 – 01:24:30: It's important because God's word is truth, and you should believe every word of it.
01:24:30 – 01:24:34: But it is also important because when you ignore things like this, particularly if you are
01:24:34 – 01:24:41: a pastor or a teacher, and God forbid you stand up and teach false doctrine on these subjects.
01:24:41 – 01:24:45: Because that is violating the second commandment.
01:24:45 – 01:24:50: And if you do not repent, you are keeping that sin for yourself, instead of letting
01:24:50 – 01:24:56: God, instead of letting Christ take it to the cross, and wash it away in his blood.
01:24:56 – 01:25:02: And we don't want anyone listening to this, even if you are listening to it, if you are
01:25:02 – 01:25:07: hate listening to this, if you are attempting to find some way in which we are teaching
01:25:07 – 01:25:11: false doctrine, something we've said wrong, somewhere we've slipped, misspoken, whatever
01:25:11 – 01:25:13: have you.
01:25:13 – 01:25:19: Even if you are that person, we want you to repent and turn from your evil ways, and
01:25:19 – 01:25:21: return to God.
01:25:21 – 01:25:29: Because as Woe said, we do want everyone to make it to paradise, no everyone will not.
01:25:29 – 01:25:33: Scripture is very clear on that, many will reject Christ, will reject God, will spend
01:25:33 – 01:25:38: eternity in hell paying for sins for which Christ already paid.
01:25:38 – 01:25:42: We do not want any of you to join them.
01:25:42 – 01:25:49: We would prefer that you join us in paradise, with the Savior who paid for all your sins.
01:25:49 – 01:25:55: All of your sins, which are not all equal, some of which are egregious, some of you may
01:25:55 – 01:26:00: have committed truly heinous sins in your life.
01:26:00 – 01:26:03: Some of you listening may not have committed particularly heinous sins.
01:26:03 – 01:26:06: You still sin, you're still a sinner.
01:26:06 – 01:26:11: Again as Woe said before, you sin because you're a sinner, you're not a sinner because
01:26:11 – 01:26:12: you sin.
01:26:12 – 01:26:17: It's that original sin that is the wellspring from which other sins come.
01:26:17 – 01:26:23: And so whether you've committed the relatively minor sins stolen, the pencil as was mentioned
01:26:23 – 01:26:30: earlier, although it depends which one of my pencils you steal, or you've murdered someone.
01:26:30 – 01:26:36: That was paid for by Christ, regardless of the gravity of the sin.
01:26:36 – 01:26:42: But if you keep that sin for yourself, if you don't allow Christ to take that to the
01:26:42 – 01:26:46: cross, if you want to say no I want to keep this one, then you get to spend eternity with
01:26:46 – 01:26:51: that sin instead of with your Savior.
01:26:51 – 01:26:55: And so all sins are not equal, some are worse than others.
01:26:55 – 01:27:01: But Christ died for all of them, He paid for all of them, He paid for every single sin
01:27:01 – 01:27:08: you have committed, regardless of how trivial or how truly terrible.
01:27:08 – 01:27:18: The atonement, the scope of the atonement was infinite, all sins wiped clean.
01:27:18 – 01:27:19: But only if you believe.
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