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Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast. I am Corey J. Mahler, and I'm still woe.
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Today's Stone Choir will be a continuation of last week's series that we began on the
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subject of the Jews in history. First episode was covering the entirety of scripture. This
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week we're going to be picking up pretty much where we left off with the destruction of the
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temple. We're probably going to get through the Middle Ages today. We'll see. This is going to be
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an extremely cursory look. We're not trying to give an exhaustive history of the Jews as a
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people. I think there are three main points that we want to make here today, and we're going to
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present evidence to this effect. The first is that the Jews were effectively destroyed when
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the temple was destroyed. When they called down God's curse against them, it worked. They were
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scattered to the winds. They were just a people without anything, without a homeland. They lost
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their language. They abandoned their religion by abandoning God and pursuing false gods,
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which we'll get into a little bit here today. The second thing to get across is that the examples
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that we give are going to have two main themes. One, the Jews post-Senkatepple destruction were
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frequently concealing what they were actually doing. There was subterfuge. There was secret
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symbolism. There were secret plans and then public pronouncements that were at odds with each other.
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A lot of the history of the Jews post-second temple has to do with someone else finding out
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what they're up to and getting upset about it for good or bad reasons. You can decide for yourself.
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We're going to present a bit of that history. The third one is basically they were just frequently
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up to no good to give just a brief recap of the up to no good to which they were attempting.
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I'm going to give just a brief highlight reel from past Stonequire episodes. Today's episode is
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number 35, so we've got 34 episodes behind us. In 12 separate episodes, the Jews have come up,
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not because Corey and I are racist anti-Semites who just hate people, but because when you're
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looking at theological concepts and problems facing Christendom, a certain group keeps popping up.
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I didn't do that. Corey didn't do that. We find over and over that the Jews show up when there
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are problems in Christendom. First episode three on Christian nationalism, we mentioned for this
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first time that the slave ships that came from Africa to North America were overwhelmingly
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owned by Jews. The slave markets were owned almost exclusively, I believe, by Jews. The slave
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markets all closed on the Sabbath. Pretty weird if it's white guys. Then the majority or the almost
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majority of owners of slaves in the South were themselves Jews. Whatever you think about the
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horrors of slavery in the antebellum South has something to do with those people. You can't
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disentangle it too. That's a big deal because today, America gets blamed for slavery, whites get
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blamed for slavery. If you're going to be assigning blame today for slavery, let's make sure we don't
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leave out the people who actually precipitated it. Episode five, a name no man knows. We mentioned
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that pseudonymity in changing names is there's nothing inherently wrong with it. I route a list
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of names of mainly Jewish entertainers who change their names from extremely Jewish names to
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extremely Anglo sounding names. If they blend in so that people would forget that they were Jews
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and they would just be Americans. Good or bad, I don't care. It doesn't upset me, but I think it's
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just interesting that that sort of shape-shifting has long roots, which we'll be getting into today.
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In episode eight, we discussed and neglected matters. We covered five issues and two of them
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touched directly on Jews. The first was usury. We mentioned how from the time of Moses, usury was
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banned among believers and God. Charging of interest was a crime. It wasn't until the Middle Ages
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when princes and kings began seeing the desirability of borrowing money or having lending made
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available principally for prosecuting wars that they began letting Jews commit usury. It was
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still forbidden for Christians. It was still a crime for Christians, but Jews were permitted to do
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so with the specific thinking that while they're going to hell anyway, so let's get some upside
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from lending because there are upsides to lending at interest. They're downsides, it's sin, but
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they're certainly upsides, and that's often the case with sin. It's not all bad where people wouldn't
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do it. One of the other issues that we discussed in the neglected matters was head coverings in
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church, and we mentioned the fact that Betty Frieden Goldstein, who founded the National
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Organization for Women in 1968, set out to do two things immediately. One, legalize abortion,
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and two, get head coverings burned in and out of our churches. She succeeded in both in short
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order. We took Christian doctrine from a Jewish lady in 1968. That's important. Like I said at the
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beginning, that's not us complaining about the Jews. It's just saying, hey, over and over we find
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the same group of people showing up. Maybe there's something that's deeper there, and if someone has
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a problem with them later on, maybe it's not the person who has a problem with the issue that is
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the problem. Maybe the fact that a group of people keep doing bad things is something that can at
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least be discussed. These are the ground rules for everyone today. Pretty much the entire news
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cycle is a reexamination of European history and assigning blame for things from hundreds and
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thousands of years ago. If those are the rules, okay. If you can look in history and say, well,
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this person's responsible for this, this group's responsible for this, sometimes that may be fair.
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Corey and I have no problem with generational guilt. We have no problem with collective guilt
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when it is justly applied. It's perfectly fair game for any group. It just so happens that many
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of the things that we as Christians are concerned about have Jews at their root. Episode 11,
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among the actions we mentioned that Judeo-Christian is a term that was invented in the 20th century.
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It's an oxymoron. There's no such thing as Judeo-Christian. Those are opposites. We made the
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case that that emerged because the ghettos of Europe were being disgorged on our shores.
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Suddenly, you had this large influx not in the south, but in the north and really throughout the
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country of Jews coming from mainly Eastern Europe. They wanted to assimilate. A lot of the name
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changing and things. One of the ways of assimilation was to invent Judeo-Christianity, where suddenly
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you have this Christian nation of America and all these Jews are showing up. They want to say,
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hey, we're on the same team, same God, same morals, same basic values. We're all together, man.
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Well, yeah, that's true. It's false. We discussed that in Episode 11. Episode 14 was pretty much
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about Jews. We had some discussion of Karl Popper, Theodor Adorno, and most of it was about
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Saul Alinsky and his rules for radicals. That was pretty much an episode about Satan's playbook.
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As it's practiced and exemplified today, it's all Jews doing it. We didn't do that. That's just who
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showed up. Episode 15 on human race, we discuss in foundational matters the fact that Jew is a race.
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It is not only a religion and underlying everything is the racial aspect. If you say,
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if someone says, I don't like Jews, the typical response is, oh, you're a racist. Yet, if someone
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says, hey, did you know that that guy is a Jew, they would say, well, how do you know that? He
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doesn't wear the hat. He doesn't keep kosher. He doesn't go to Sabbath. Why do you think he's a Jew?
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He's presbyterian. It's either or thing. It's a gotcha game where it's racist if you dislike
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something about Jews, but it's a religion if there's anything good about what they're doing.
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It's one of those games that gets played, and it leaves us tied up in knots.
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But Jew is, in fact, a race. We made that very clear last episode just discussing Scripture.
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All the genealogy was about the race of Jews. That's not inherently a bad thing.
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Everyone has a race. That's how God made us. We don't hate people because of their race, but
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if there are differences, maybe they're consequential, and we see in time that in fact they are.
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Episode 19 on human race and racism, we talked about Magnus Hirschfeld, the Jew from Weimar
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Germany who was conducting horrific sexual experiments, transsexual science, so-called
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pornography, sodomy, the worst imaginable sins that are reemerging today. When he fled Germany,
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he immediately went on to write the book Racism. He was a Jew. Also appearing in that same
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episode was the murder of the Zars and Communism, all of which was run by Jews.
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So over and over, this group of people shows up in the very worst moments in European history,
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and we're going to cover some more of those today. Episode 20 against the Antichrist,
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we revisit the fact that the Jewish slavers were relevant. Episode 23 on women and feminism.
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Well, we didn't explicitly mention Jews, mainly because we didn't want to get too much into second
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way of feminism or later. The history of feminism in the 20th century is almost entirely Jewish.
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Just a couple names that most people will probably recognize. Again, Betty Frieden,
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Nie Goldstein, Gloria Steinem, Gloria Alred, Andrea Dworkin, and Naomi Wolfe, all Jewish.
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So those are their contributions to feminism. If you think feminism is bad, you should give them
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credit. If you think it's great, you should also give them credit. When they take credit for what
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they're doing, who are we to rob them of it? Feminism in the 20th century was entirely
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a Jewish gift to our civilization, and I think it's important to give them that credit.
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Episode 27 and listener feedback, Episode 1. We finished with Israel Zanguil's The Melting Pot
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Play, which was a play that was basically dedicated both to race mixing and to the newly
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invented concept that America itself isn't a nation. It doesn't have any particular bloodline.
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It's just this big cauldron where people from all around the world get dumped in.
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And then, I don't know what, we're just, you know, as Corey finished up, it sounded pretty
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halish to us, that if you've ever said Melting Pot, you're quoting a man named Israel. So make
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sure you give them credit. Episode 30, Against the Clockwork Universe, we discussed, Corey mentioned,
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the Jewish law school professor Eugene Rostow, who declared that ceremonial deism was the official
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United States religion. And he's spot on, I mean, that goes back centuries. And Episode 23, most
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recently on Michael King, the Marxist agitator, I joked that most of the names in that read like
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the Tel Aviv phone book, beginning with Stanley Levison, his lifelong handler. Pretty much everyone
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who influenced him and was moving the Marxist needle in civil rights in the 60s in America,
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they were almost all Jews, not exclusively. But in the absence of that people group,
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the civil rights movement wouldn't have existed. So again, that's relevant. It's not,
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er, we're mad at these people. It's, I don't like evil. And if I think something is evil,
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and then I look at the genealogy of the man who's doing the thing, and I keep finding the same
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pattern, at some point, it's going to draw my attention. You know, five, six, seven years ago,
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I didn't care. I basically didn't know what a Jew was. I was completely indifferent. I had a bunch
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of Jewish friends. I had good friends with a number of them, great conversations. It is not
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hatred to say, huh, over and over, I keep seeing this pattern. That's just intelligence. That's
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honesty. So today, we're going to be having an honest assessment of the truth of some more aspects
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of history post-Second Temple destruction, beginning with the destruction of the temple itself,
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and then some of the things that happened after that.
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And so we'll start with the first of three Roman Jewish wars, so-called. And really, this is the
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one of the major Jewish revolts against the Roman Empire. And that is the one that is eventually
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put down by Vespasian and Titus. And that is when the temple is burned in 70 AD.
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So basically, what happens in this revolt is the Jews start a major uprising, as was their want.
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We see that in the pages of scripture. That is why Pilate has such a difficult time dealing with
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them and tries to be so careful, because these people were known for constantly causing trouble
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for the Empire. But they instigate a revolt. And the result of that is that it gets squashed
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by the Romans fairly conclusively. In this particular revolt, the Romans do lose a fair
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number of soldiers. It's 10,000 plus, according to Roman records, which is nothing compared to the
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third Roman Jewish war, which we'll get to. And the Jews lose something on the order of
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probably about 20,000. And then there's some number of civilians who are killed as well.
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That's harder to estimate. But the major point, of course, is, as was stated, the temple is burned.
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It is sacked and burned. It is destroyed completely, utterly. Because, of course, you should think of
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the words of Christ when you hear that the temple was destroyed. Not one stone will be left standing
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on another. And that's what the Romans do. The Romans loot the temple and destroy it. It is gone.
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This is God's judgment on the Jews taking physical form. The temple is gone. The place where they
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went to, at some points in their history, worship God, at other points in their history,
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to worship idols because they contaminated the temple with idols frequently.
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But it's now gone. Because, of course, that's not how you're supposed to worship God. You
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don't worship God at the temple. You worship God by being a Christian, by believing in Christ.
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But to move on to the second of these three Roman Jewish wars, the second one is often
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called the Kitas War, named after one of the gentlemen involved. This one has a much higher
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count when it comes to the death toll. And the reason for that isn't actually due to the conflict
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itself. I don't remember exactly how many died in the conflict. I think the records disagree on that.
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But it was the number of soldiers killed wasn't enormous. However, the Jews started uprisings
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in various places in the Roman Empire simultaneously because the Romans were dealing with other things
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in some of the fringe parts of the Empire. And so the Jews seized the opportunity. They instigated
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an uprising in Egypt, in Cyprus, in Libya, and, of course, in Israel, in Judea.
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What is notable about this particular conflict is that in Cyrene and Cyprus alone, because
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we have records for that from Cassius Dio, a Roman historian, 460,000 or more Roman subjects were
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murdered, civilians murdered by the Jews. That would have been primarily Romanized Greeks,
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of course, because of the location. Now, as a Christian, that should make you think.
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Because look at the timeline here. 70 A.D. is the first conflict when the temple is destroyed.
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That's sort of the conclusion of that conflict. It takes them a few years to clean up some rebels
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out in the fringes. This conflict is some years later between the years of 115 and 117.
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Many of these Roman Greeks who were murdered by the Jews would have been Christian at this point.
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This was, in part, Jews waging a pogrom against Christians. And the numbers I gave you are the
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ones that we know from Cyrene and Cyprus alone. I told you some of the other places they had
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the uprising. We don't know the death toll in Egypt, Libya, or other places in the Eastern
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Mediterranean. It may very well have been excess of a million Roman subjects who were murdered in
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of a million Roman subjects who were murdered in this uprising.
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It's interesting that they would start all these revolts all over the place all at once,
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because we saw exactly the same thing in the 19th and again in the 20th centuries.
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The wave of revolutions in 1848 and then the wave of communist revolutions in the 1910s.
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The same people. It was the same pattern, killing Christians on mass, mass revolution,
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mass chaos, same coordinators. So when we talk about Satan's playbook, we're not just like,
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how many times do you have to see the same pattern before you recognize it's a pattern?
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And you don't necessarily need to immediately jump to a conclusion, but when it's the same
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people doing the same thing, take that seriously. The slaughter of Christians in the 20th century
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is mirrored in the second century. That should matter to us as Christians.
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I guess I should mention a bit of historical irony, as it were, after the first of these
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three conflicts, because obviously Jerusalem was largely destroyed, the Jews shifted their
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center of power and focus, their leadership, to Galilee of all places. There's just a little bit
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of historical irony and the fact that they had to go there. But the results of the second Roman
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Jewish war, of course, again, victory for the Romans, they eventually did crush the Jewish
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rebellion. They killed many of the rebels, some number of hundreds of thousands dead,
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probably 200,000 dead, plus civilians. Difficult to count the number of civilians.
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The Jews weren't taking a census in the way the Romans were, so the Romans had better numbers.
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Eventually, they pushed them back to the city of Lidda, laid siege to that city,
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and destroyed the rebels and their leadership. The reason the city is worth mentioning
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is because the slain of Lidda is a phrase that is used in the Talmud as...
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These are people who are praised in the Talmud for what they did. The Jews are proud
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of what they did in this rebellion, of the hundreds of thousands, of the potentially
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million that they slaughtered. But the last of the conflicts, and perhaps the most important of
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these, other than obviously the temple being destroyed in the first one, is the third Roman
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Jewish war, or the third Jewish revolt, usually called the Bar Kokpa revolt, because it was led
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by Simon Bar Kokpa, Simon son of Kokpa. That was in the years 132 through 136. So this was not
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necessarily a short conflict, this lasted a while, particularly the final siege that
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was when the Romans annihilated these rebels, because again, the Romans did win this one.
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However, this came at a serious cost to the Romans. It is estimated that the Romans lost,
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I believe it was at least 200,000 soldiers. It's difficult to tell because it's not exactly
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clear historically, all of the legions that were present in Judea for this particular conflict.
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However, some number of tens of thousands up to 200,000 Roman soldiers died in this.
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And between 200,000 and 400,000 Jewish militia, whatever you want to call them,
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died in this. And then some number of thousands of the rebels directly under Bar Kokpa.
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However, the major outcome of this was the final destruction of the Jewish people
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in what is at the time Palestine. Because earlier, as a result of that second conflict,
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Hadrian had imposed a number of punitive measures on the Jewish people,
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basically because of their bad behavior, and the fact that they kept revolting and causing
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problems for the empire. But this third one, the Bar Kokpa revolt, basically the Romans raised
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Judea. They destroyed the fortified towns, they burned villages to the ground, they killed
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probably a half million or so Jews. They were done with the Jewish people done having to deal
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with these conflicts and every, you know, handful of decades having to send legions over
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to this province that's on the periphery of the Roman Empire that just constantly causes them so
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many problems. And not just on the periphery, because of course, they were instigating rebellions
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in other parts of the empire as well. I should expand on what Hadrian does here, because in the
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the aftermath of this revolt, this is where the real onerous measures come for the Jews,
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the ones who weren't dead. They were completely banned from Jerusalem. They were allowed their
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one day per year, their Tisha Ba'av day, which is basically their annual day of whining about
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things that they have suffered because of things that they have done.
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But the reason it's notable what happens here in this particular conflict and what Hadrian does
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is because this is the real beginning of the modern Jewish diaspora. This is when the surviving Jews
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flee to various other places in large part to Babylon, which becomes very relevant for other
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reasons. Now, of course, the Jews did also in this conflict murder basically any Christians they could
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find because the Christians had refused to fight against the Romans, because the Christians weren't
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trying to wage a rebellion against the Roman Empire. That was the Jews. So the Jews murdered
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a number of Christians in this as well. We'll probably never know that number. But this is also
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when as a punishment, essentially the Romans set about to erase Judea from history. Not only did
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they destroy the towns and the fortifications and a great deal of the population, this is when
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Hadrian renamed the province from Judea to Palestine. That's why we have that term for the
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modern area because of the consequences, the aftermath of this rebellion.
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One of the interesting aspects of the rebellion itself was that along with the warfare, one of
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the cultural things that they were trying to do was to restore the Hebrew language. They'd been
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speaking Aramaic and Greek. They actually had a brief period of time where they tried to repristinate
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the Hebrew language, and that was an important part of their identity. They wanted self-rule.
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They wanted the temple back, and they wanted their ancestral language, which is something we see
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today. That same desire was there in 135 that we have today. It's not narrowly a bad desire, but
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I think it's just interesting that this was the beginning of them
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basically trying to undo nearly a thousand years of God's punishment against them.
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Did you want to read the Titus quote from the First Rebellion?
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Yes, I think we should definitely include that Titus quote because it is one of the best quotes in
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all of history. As is customary in the Roman Empire, when Titus returns victorious from
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conquering the Jews in that First Revolt, it had started under his father Vespasian, but then
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because of happenings in Rome, Vespasian had returned to Rome the year before the revolt
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ended because Nero had committed suicide or forced his guard to kill him whichever way that
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actually went, and so Vespasian went back to take over as emperor essentially, but when Titus returned
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he was offered the wreath of victory, which is how they did things at the time, and he refused it,
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and his quote was, there is no merit in vanquishing a people forsaken by their own God.
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He considered himself to be an instrument of divine wrath against the Jews, and that is certainly true,
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but that is just one of the best preserved quotes in history.
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And on the point of the Hebrew language, Hadrian actually banned its use. He set about to erase
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what little of it was left. I think one of the interesting parts about the beginning of the
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diaspora here is that as they moved into Babylon, because of the destruction of the temple and the
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destruction of the priestly class, they shifted to a rabbinical school of Judaism, basically the
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Pharisees sort of continued on as rabbis in terms of the type of teaching that was done,
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and this was the beginning of them shifting from the oral traditions to writing those traditions
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down. The mission of the oral traditions had been passed down. They claimed from Moses day,
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they claimed that God had given Moses an oral Torah, an oral law, as well as the written one,
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and that was a key part of their control of the religion because they were contradictory. What
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was written down was from God, and then the oral tradition, the tradition that was secretly passed
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on among rabbis, and then taught to the people as it was doled out, contradicted Scripture,
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and this was one of the chief battles that Jesus had with the Pharisees, was that many of them,
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the ones who were not faithful, there were a few faithful Pharisees, at least they were believers.
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The rest of them were engaging in anti-Scriptural behaviors and teachings
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as a matter of lifestyle. That was the Phariseeical mode, and so when it shifted over to rabbinical
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Judaism, one of the things they did, because the central locus of the temple had been lost,
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was they started writing stuff down, and so this is the period where we have the two Talmuds can
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emerge and then converge, basically writing down those oral traditions as they'd been passed down,
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and it's a huge set. It's like 25 or 30 volumes of stuff, and it's funny when I've heard a couple
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rabbis discussing it, and they say, I know one, almost no one's ever read it all, which is kind
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of goofy for their holy works, but because they're basically signing statements, reinterpreting
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whatever God said, for them the important part is the arguing, and so it was a big shift for them
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to actually write any of that down, and that's another thing that we touched on briefly last week.
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They'd stopped speaking Hebrew, and despite the efforts in the third revolt,
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Hebrew didn't come back, so when the Talmud was written down, it was written in Aramaic,
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Hebrew was gone, so when you hear about a Talmudic scholar, the Talmuds will look like
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they're written in Hebrew, they're not. It's literally Aramaic that they're reading.
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Yeah, a full set of the English Talmud is 73 volumes and $3,000,
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and a lot of pages. I remember it's like 6,500, it's a lot of pages in the English.
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But in between...
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The question is how much of that is prof-emergent.
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Given this is a Jewish-owned shop, but in between the end of these Roman-Jewish conflicts,
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because Rome's power is starting to wane at this point, and this is when you have the
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the disillusion of the empire into the western and the eastern, so you have the Byzantines,
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the Byzantines obviously will have control over Jerusalem for a period of time until they
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lose that to the invading Islamic forces in a number of centuries.
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But in between the Roman suppression of these revolts and really things that will happen later
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on, we have an attempt by Julian the Apostate to rebuild the temple, because of course now the
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temple has been destroyed twice. You have the first temple is destroyed by the Babylonians,
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that is in 586 BC, and then you have, as was just mentioned, the second temple destroyed
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by the Romans in 70 AD. However, Julian the Apostate, who actually follows a number of
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faithful Christian rulers in the Byzantine Empire, he's not a Christian, that's why he's
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Julian the Apostate. He attempts to resurrect paganism, and so part of that he attempts to
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rebuild the temple. However, when the Jews, obviously eager to rebuild the temple, said about
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doing this task, they are met with basically complete destruction and signs from God.
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There is an earthquake, fire comes out of the ground and burns up workers, and they really
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don't get anywhere. But God makes it very clear, he does not want the temple to be reconstructed,
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that is not something Christians most certainly should support, that is something Christians
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should oppose. And so the people who are sending money over to Israel to build a third temple,
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that is incredibly wicked. Maybe we'll see fire from the ground again, or from the sky this time.
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We will have a link in the show notes to some first-hand and second-hand depictions from that
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time period of accounts of what happened there. The details vary slightly, but the overall theme is
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the same and unmistakable. There is a supernatural force preventing them from rebuilding the temple,
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and it included fireballs. We say supernatural, we're not talking about tummy aches,
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men were incinerated from the ground by fire, that's not normal.
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Well, it's a little more normal when you worship Satan.
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To move on to Babylon, that's really the next major point in this journey. Of course,
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you have the Babylonian captivity of Israel, not of the church, that's a different matter,
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that book is worth reading. Incidentally, that's written by Luther. But the Babylonian captivity
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of Israel is 597 BC is when that starts. That is when you really get the beginning of the Jewish
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diaspora population in Babylon. This, of course, is the southern kingdom Judah, because the Assyrians
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were the ones that took the northern kingdom captive earlier on. But you wind up with a population of
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between one and two million Jews living in Babylon, which essentially modern day Iraq.
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This is when the Talmud really begins to take form. And as was mentioned, you have a split here,
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because you have the Jewish population, what remains of it in Jerusalem in the surrounding area,
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they produce what comes to be known as the Jerusalem Talmud. But then you have the Babylonian
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Talmud, which obviously produced in Babylon. This is where the Jewish schools that we still
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have today, and they are largely in the US and Israel, this is where they take off the the
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Yeshiva. These are schools devoted to the study of the Talmud. And they start here in Babylon,
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and they spread to many other places over time. Wherever the center of Jewish power is at the
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time, that's where you'll find the Yeshiva. And as I mentioned, today, if you are looking at where
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the Yeshiva are concentrated, they are concentrated in Israel and in the US. But to give some historical
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context here, originally, when the Jews are taken captive in Babylon, they are taken captive by the
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Sassanid dynasty, and that is a Zoroastrian dynasty. However, during the period of this
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diaspora population living in this region, the Muslim conquest come through and Zoroastrianism
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is erased, it's gone. However, the Muslims for four centuries still permit the Jews to practice
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their religion, to have their schools, to teach the Talmud, to do all these various things, to
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participate in society, in banking and coinage and various other things, really the sorts of things
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that you would expect. And so perhaps that narrative that you constantly hear of the Jews and the
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Muslims being arch enemies and hating each other for all time, a little more complicated than most
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media reports would have you think. Because this is a large Jewish population living under Muslim
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rulers for centuries. And this isn't the only time we'll see that. We will see this again in Europe
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with the Muslim Caliphate in Spain. We will see this in the Ottoman Empire. This is not something
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that is new. It's not something that has ceased. It still happens to this day, despite the conflict
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between Israel and Palestine. But to go back to the Byzantine Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire,
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because of course, it's in the Eastern Roman Empire in Jerusalem, where the other Talmud,
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the other version is taking shape at this point. And really, it's just commentary on the Mishnah
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that are reduced to writing and then published. In this case, obviously copied by hand. They don't
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have a printing press back then. But the Eastern Empire Christendom really turns against the Jews
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in part. The turning point here, the inflection point is when Christendom becomes patriarch
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of Constantinople. And he has a number of sermons against the Jews. I will link to those in the
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show notes. They are worth reading. He was a good orator. He was a good pastor, a fairly good theologian.
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Obviously, I would disagree with him on some things. But not as much as one might think,
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because we'll get this eventually in an Eastern Orthodoxy episode. But what is Eastern Orthodoxy
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today is very different from what someone like John Chrysostom would have believed.
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Basically, because of Palimus. But we'll get to that in a future episode.
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And so Chrysostom becomes patriarch in 398. He has a number of sermons against the Jews.
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This stirs up anti-Jew sentiment among Christians. And obviously, some of the other things that
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have happened historically because the Christians at the time were not ignorant of what the Jews
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had been doing. So there were other reasons for it as well. But the first emperor who really takes
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after Hadrian, that is, of course, who takes anti-Jew measures would be Theodosius.
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That would be in the fifth century. Now, the Jews, even to this day, hate Theodosius.
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But if you actually look at the measures he enacted, they'll seem fairly reasonable to you.
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Jews were not allowed to own Christian slaves. Because, of course, there's a religious conflict
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there. And the Christian emperor did not want Jewish masters having Christian slaves. That's a
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problem. It also banned intermarriage between Christians and Jews. And Christians were forbidden
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to convert to Judaism. Those are basically the measures that he enacted. So not particularly
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burdensome or extensive. We have another attempt here to stamp out completely what remains of the
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Hebrew language. It's basically dead at this point. The Jews are still in some minor way attempting
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to resurrect it. And so Emperor Justinian, a short while after Theodosius, bans the use of Hebrew
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because he's still having trouble in his empire with rebellious Jews. And part of that, if you
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ban the use of this language, he's trying to make it harder for them to organize these problems that
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they are causing him. But I mentioned earlier the conquest by the Muslims. And so this moves
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us into the Islamic period, really. And that more or less begins with the Battle of Yarmouk in 636.
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That's when the Muslim forces defeat the Byzantine forces. And really, that's more or less the end
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of the hegemony of the Eastern Roman Empire in this region. And so that moves us into the Islamic
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period. And so Caliph Omar is the man who would wind up with control over Jerusalem in this period.
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In the Talmud, he is called a friend of Israel. So again, this relationship between the Jews and
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the Muslims is more complicated than you've probably been led to believe. They are cousins,
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after all. Scripture is very clear on that. And so Jews worked in his empire as one of the Arab
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historians has said, as assayers of coins, sellers of dye, tanners, and bankers, which I am sure are
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surprising jobs for everyone to hear. But on the topic of what we mentioned earlier, the diaspora,
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the nature of the diaspora starts to take form in some ways under Caliph Omar, and then under his
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successors as well. Because in the seventh century, the Caraj land tax is passed. And basically,
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that's a tax that is particularly burdensome on non Muslims who own agricultural or otherwise
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productive land. And so in order to avoid paying this tax, the Jews move to the cities. Because
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if you don't own productive land, you don't pay the land tax. This is, of course, just an instance
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of the standard, the dimmy or the jizya, the tax on non believers living in Muslim controlled lands.
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But this is the beginning of the concentration of the Jews almost exclusively in the cities.
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And we will see that pattern repeat over and over again, as they move from one place to the next
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when they are either expelled, or there's a new opportunity that opens up. But under
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this caliph and the subsequent ones, this is considered one of the golden ages.
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Because the Jews are basically free to do as they please, they're not really burdened other
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than this tax, but they move into the cities, they avoid the tax. And this persists through
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about the year 1000. But the center of gravity for the Jewish people shifts from the Middle East,
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from the Near East, into Spain. Because of course, you have the Moorish conquest of Spain.
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And you have for centuries, Muslims ruling European territory. And so this is considered
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the real golden age for the Jews in Europe in Spain.
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It's important to note that the ushering in of the Moorish Islamic age of the rule of Spain
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was brought upon by Jews in Spain, Toledo, the neighboring cities. It was Roman Catholic territory.
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I have a brief timeline here of some of the things that happened in Toledo and
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surrounds as it related to the Jews who at the time were in a minority because there were some
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Jews living there in the 500s and 600s. In 558, the bishop ordered the Jews of his diocese to
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convert to Catholicism, and those who didn't were expelled from the region. In 633, the Fourth
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Council of Toledo describes the Jews who were allegedly proselytizing their beliefs as the
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Antichrist ministers. So again, consistent with Christ's system, Christian preaching was that
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these people are evil. That's not calling names. That's a doctrinal position supported
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incidentally by Scripture, and we'll get to that in a couple of minutes. Also, in 633,
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the Fourth Council of Toledo declared that all Jews must be baptized. That is forcibly converted.
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In 654, the king of Toledo forbade Jews from keeping the Sabbath, forbade their dietary laws,
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their marriage laws, and forbade circumcision, which again is banning their religion outright.
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It was illegal effectively to practice Judaism. In 694, the Catholic bishops issued a decree
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that the Jews were traitors and should have their wealth confiscated and face perpetual slavery,
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which, as Cory just said, is a significantly worse deal than they were getting from
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the Muslims, whom we are told are their bitter hereditary enemies. Interesting, hereditary enemy
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is a word the Luther later uses, in fact, in the Lutheran confessions to describe the Muslims,
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yet the hereditary nature of the Jewish-Muslim relationship is frequently quite friendly.
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This came to a head in 711 when Tariq brought his army to Toledo to try to crush her. They were
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trying to capture Spain for the caliphate. Jewish traitors opened the gates of Toledo,
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let the Muslim soldiers in, so there was no siege of Toledo. There was no battle. The gates were
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opened by Jews who were traitors to their town, led in the Muslims, and they conquered it in
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short order. Basically, all of Spain fell not very long thereafter. That control that Muslims had
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lasted until the 15th century. And not only did the Jews help the Muslims to conquer their Christian
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rulers, but the Muslims put the Jews in charge of some of these cities. So they were basically left
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to second in command beneath the Muslims, but over the Christians. This was a pattern, as Cory
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said, this is a pattern that played out in multiple places. So when we talked at the beginning about
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there being malfeasance and misconduct by this group, there's always this pattern where wherever
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there are Jews and there are Christians, the Christians end up being harmed somehow, whether
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it's soft harm like usury or hard harm, like having the gates thrown open so that your enemies can
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come in and slaughter you. But that pattern is very clear and Muslims and Jews, in fact, to this
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day, work together. Most people don't remember this, but when ISIS was a thing briefly and they
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were causing trouble, at one point, they killed some IDF soldiers and they put out a public
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apology. They apologized for killing Israeli soldiers, which isn't what you would expect from
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Muslim terrorists seeking a caliphate. And yet, if you understand more of history, it's not quite
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that weird. And behind the scenes, even today, Saudi Arabia and Israel are very close friends.
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They work together in lockstep. And when you see breakdowns in their relations, it's because one
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Saudi Arabian, the Shakes or whoever, when they are ebbing and flowing and they have their internal
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conflicts, they will sometimes side more or less with Israel than others. But when it comes to them
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versus Christendom, there's no doubt their cousins. And so they have their battles as cousins. But
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when it comes to dealing with Christians, there's no question who's going to get the knife first.
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The Middle Eastern proverb really just plays out again and again and again.
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And everyone should know it by now. They and they will admit to it. This is their proverb. They
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know this about themselves. Me against my brother, me and my brother against my father,
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me, my brother and my father against my uncle, me, my brother, my father, my uncle against.
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And it just goes up from there until it's against the world.
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That is how they view things. That is how they behave. And that is why the Jews and the Muslims
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will get along to attack Christians because they're cousins, but they're not your cousin.
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And so with the conquest of Spain in 711 through 1031, this is considered one of the
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golden ages of the Jewish people by the Jewish people. Because as was mentioned, the Muslims
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basically let them practice their religion, set up their schools, in some cases collect taxes,
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bank, deal with the money and oppress Christians. And so this is a golden age for the Jews. It's
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also incidentally where a bit of that ruthless cosmopolitan nature comes from. Because they're
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just moving around from city to city as the opportunity opens up. There's no real connection
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to a specific geographic area. And the reason for that is because God destroyed them in their
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homeland. He made them into ruthless cosmopolitans. He made them into a diaspora people who wander
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endlessly because they are not at home anywhere, because that is a punishment from God.
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So we mentioned last week that we would get to the Star of David, so-called this week. It ties in
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both to the very beginning of the first century, all the way through the 10th and 11th century AD.
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So I think this is a good place to mention because it also ties in with Islam.
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I'm going to read back from scripture again. We're going to bounce back to scripture just a bit.
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In Act 7, around 743, Stephen is preaching to the Jews and he is speaking of Moses here.
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Moses received living oracles to give to us. Our fathers refused to obey him, but thrust him
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aside and in their hearts they turned to Egypt, saying to Aaron, make us gods who will go before us.
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As for this Moses who led us out from the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.
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And they made a calf in those days and offered a sacrifice to the idol and were rejoicing in the
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works of their hands. But God turned away and gave them over to worship the host of heaven,
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as it is written in the book of the prophets. And this is from Amos.
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Did you bring me slain beasts and sacrifices during the 40 years in the wilderness,
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O house of Israel? You took up the tent of Moloch and the star of your God, Raphane,
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the images that you made to worship, and I will send you into exile beyond Babylon.
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And then a little while later in this sermon, Stephen says,
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you stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears. You always resist the Holy Spirit.
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As your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute?
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And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the righteous one,
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whom you have now betrayed and murdered. You who received the law as delivered by angels
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and did not keep it. Almost immediately after saying this, Stephen is murdered. He's murdered
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by this crowd of Jews to whom he is preaching. So a couple things I want to note and then focus on.
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First, it's notable that if you go back and read Amos 20, about 25 and 26,
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you'll find some different wording than you find here in Acts. When it says,
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the tent of Moloch and the star of your God, Raphane, it says something different in Amos,
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the stars of Cuyun. I don't remember what the tent was. The reason for that difference is that Stephen
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is quoting the Septuagint. He's quoting the Greek Old Testament. So when you look at the Greek,
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it says Moloch and Raphane, or Remphan. It's said both ways. You translate it both ways.
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The words that appear in this verse in Amos 26 only appear one time in that verse, so we don't
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have other parallax for it. They're Appax Legomona. I think that's interesting because
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it highlights what we said last week that Hebrew is a dead language. Although you can now look
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at the Hebrew of Amos today, when Stephen was preaching, he didn't use the Hebrew. You used
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the Greek. More importantly, note what's going on here. When Stephen is condemning these Jews
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to their faces, he is telling them that they're idolaters, and specifically that their God was
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a star God, the star of their God, Raphane. He's making a direct connection between the
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idol worship, the Satan worship of the Jews before him, and the Satan worship of the Jews
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who came out of Egypt. This passage makes it very clear, when you go read it, go read Acts 743
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in that area. Stephen makes it very clear that the Jews in Moses' day, they were idolaters,
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not 100% of them, but their God. God turned them over to their God, to the host of heaven.
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When you hear that, and you're not really paying attention to anything, turn them over to worship
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the host of heaven. It kind of sounds like God. No, he's talking about a star. He's talking about
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the star God. This has to do with the star of David, because there's no such thing. That symbol,
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that hexagram, is called both the star of David and the shield of David. It does not exist in
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any Judaic practice until 1008 AD. The Leningrad Codex, which is a Tanakh that's preserved in Russia
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today, is over 1,000 years old. It is the first connection between the hexagram and the Jewish
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or Judaic faith. This is critical, because we do have other art from much earlier. We have art from
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before the first century, and we have depictions of stars in the first century and second and third
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century. The stars that they're talking about are not a star of David. They have nothing to do
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with the Jewish faith, so-called. They come from mysticism, specifically from Babylonian mysticism.
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The hexagram, which is effectively a triangle pointed up and a triangle pointed down,
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that's notable, because it's pointing two different directions. It's pointing up and down.
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That is an allusion to as above so below, which is a Satanic term that's used to this day.
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Satan worshippers today will use some of these symbols. In fact, they use the hexagram, the
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so-called star of David, as one of their symbols. Cory and I debated even talking about this subject,
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because the problem with when you start to delve into mysticism and these occult practices,
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there's a certain type of person who's vulnerable to that, who's weak to that.
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There's some men where a pretty girl can walk by and they just don't even care,
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but if there's a whip of occult information, of occult knowledge, that is tempting.
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When we're talking about this, I don't want anyone to be tempted by wanting to delve into
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these things. If you're listening and you hear what's talking about Babylonian magic and this
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mysticism, and it gets you excited, take that as a sign of that as a personal spiritual weakness
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of yours and just don't go anywhere near it. I'm warning you for the sake of your soul.
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This is how men, some men are tempted. Some men are completely indifferent. I can look into some
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of this stuff because it makes my skin crawl, and I look as little as possible, and I learn as
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little as possible, just enough to be able to identify the basic patterns to say, yeah, that's
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enemy action. We're going to talk a little bit about it. We're going to reference another podcast
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that goes into a little bit more. We're not recommending everyone look at this, and if you,
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in particular, are enthused about these things, just keep away, please. It's not worth it.
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It doesn't matter. There are much more important things to focus on. The reason for talking about
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the Star of Rafan as it relates to the so-called Star of David is that there are ancient ties
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to the Satan worship of the Israelites in Egypt. When you look at this symbol,
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the hexagram, what we call what we think is the Star of David today, it first appears
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in and around the first century, but it has no connection whatsoever to Judaism.
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The first connections that it has are to alchemy, to Babylonian magic, which ties back to Egyptian
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magic through the Greeks. It ties to Kabbalah, which is Jewish mysticism, and it also ties to
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Muslim mysticism. I found that very interesting that both Jewish and Muslim mysticism, most people
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don't even know the Muslim mysticism exists. It does, and it uses these very symbols. So
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the Star of David is an occult symbol, and the only place in scripture that a star appears
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is directly connected to a star god, a star god from Egypt. We're going to link to a podcast that's
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defunct now, which I said is really good, called Not Conformed. They did a four-part series of
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one point talking about some of the occult and some of the history of some of those evil stuff.
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We're just going to link to the last episode in that series because it goes the most directly
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into discussing Babylonian era and Egyptian era magic. I'm going to say something that might
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surprise some people, but black magic is real. When Pharaoh had his magicians performing
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magic in front of Moses, they were really doing those things. Now, to say that black magic is
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real is not to say that these men had power. They had no power. They were demon-possessed.
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Demons were doing those things. So when we talk about magic, we're talking about supernatural.
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None of this has anything to do with what any man can do. It's not like if you have certain
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knowledge, you can gain psychic abilities or the ability to levitate or do any of these things.
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In the event that any sort of supernatural phenomena appears, you're dealing with demons.
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There's no other way to describe it, and it's clear when Moses is doing battle with
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the magicians of Pharaoh that he's dealing directly with gods, their gods, their demonic gods,
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the 10 miracles that he does, that each of them is an overthrowing, symbolically, of one of the
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gods of the Egyptians who were demons. All those physical depictions of them and the descriptions
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of their habits and their tendencies and their domains, some of that's not going to be true,
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but some of it is absolutely real. There are demons associated with each of those Egyptian gods,
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and interestingly, a lot of those pop up in other cultures, too. They'll have sometimes
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similar names, sometimes different names, but it's not simply that they were worshiped in Egypt.
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The reason that Egypt is so important, the reason that it pops up in the episode that
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we're going to link to, is that as you look at modern-day magic, people are actually practicing
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what they believe is real supernatural communion with these deities, these demons, they will trace
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back through Babylon, they will trace through the Greeks who, remember when Alexander conquered
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Egypt, the Greeks were then running Egypt, and so much of the scholarship, much of the recordings
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of Egyptian magic, is in Greek because when the Greeks showed up, they're like, oh, this is great,
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we can now control these demons now. Today, the men who look back, they look through Babylonia,
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they look in Greek, back to what the Egyptians were doing 3,500 years ago.
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It's notable that the Freemasons and other similar secret societies also trace their lineage
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back to Egypt. Everyone wants roots in Egypt for this stuff, and today, if you're not paying any
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attention, you don't care, and frankly, most people shouldn't care. I'm not saying be excited
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about this stuff, please don't be excited, but if you begin to look at all, and you begin to look
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at things like the pentagram and the hexagram, you'll find that they're all directly connected to
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demonic spiritual practices in these ages, and they all trace back to the very time. Like,
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remember, when Stephen is quoting Amos in describing what happened, while Moses is up
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on the mountain, this isn't centuries later, Stephen and Amos are specifically describing
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what happened with the Jews at the base of the mountain when they told Aaron to make that
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golden calf for them, pointing back to their Egyptian gods, and God condemns them for worshiping
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their star god of Rafan. That's Egyptian, at least that old. We don't know how much older it is
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than their demons, so they were created during the Sixth Age of Creation, but their interaction
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with the Jews at least goes back to the days of Egypt. When we have these evil satanic magic
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symbols that today are called the Star of David, and they're in some of our churches,
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and most people think it's just fine. They think it's hunky dory. It did not exist anywhere
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as any sort of religious symbol that was not occult until 1008 AD. Then it was on a Tanakh
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that had been produced by these wicked apostate Jews who had been cursed by God a thousand years
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earlier. The Star of David is important as a small microcosm of how we were deceived. We
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talked last week about how we were deceived into thinking that Jesus was speaking Hebrew, no.
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We're also told that the Star of David is this ancient symbol of Israel. You call it the Star
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of David, like, okay, great, David, he's a long time ago. That's super Jewish stuff. No, they
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didn't have it. It did exist as a magic symbol for demon summoning. When you see flags and you see
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symbols in our own churches today that have that, it's still demonic. There's not a good version
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and a bad version. There is only the evil version because it's an evil symbol, just as the cross
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is a good symbol. Symbolism is a small thing, but believe me, it matters a great deal to people
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who are hiding stuff, because one of the most important and common things that Satan likes
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to do is hide this crap in plain sight. There's a little signal somewhere just to wet people's
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appetite and to signal to people who are in the know that this is what's going on.
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And these symbols, these occult symbols are all connected. You are going to find them
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all throughout ancient mysticism, particularly in this region. Another that you will find
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constantly is the all-seeing eye. You're going to find that in connection with these other symbols,
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one in particular still used in this region modernly is the Hamza, which is an all-seeing eye
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in the palm of a hand. You've probably seen that symbol in various places. It's a favorite of
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Hollywood and various other questionable entities, but this is also connected to worship of Baal.
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This is connected to Carthage. You see this all throughout this region. Satan recycles the symbols
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he uses. There are symbols that represent God, there are symbols that represent Satan, and you
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are going to see them in any culture that is worshiping Satan. And that is the case with
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the so-called Star of David, the Star of Remfan. You can have an M in there or not,
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it's rendered both ways. And the Star of Remfan and the Pentagram are essentially interchangeable
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in many cases in the occult. So it's important to think of that. It's important to recognize that
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when you see one, it may as well be the other. Sometimes you'll see both together or you'll
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see a coin with one on one side and one on the other. But we don't want to dwell on the occult
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too much. But yes, it does of course trace back to Egypt and to tie that together with Egypt,
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you have the Eye of Horus, which of course is an all-seeing eye. But before getting into the
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occult, it was mentioned that in Spain, in the period before the Muslim conquest, the Jews were
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being forced to become Christian or in some cases be exiled, some of the Jews, it is worth noting,
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committed suicide rather than be baptized. And that ties into the next section in the history
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of this, which would be the Crusades. Because during the Crusades, there were some pogroms
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against the Jews. And this was for various reasons, often related to the lending practices of the Jews.
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Because of course, those who are in a great deal of debt due to predatory lending practices
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are not going to think very highly of the lender. And as was mentioned, Christians, there's this
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additional layer to it, because these were Christians, Christians are not permitted to lend
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at interest. And yes, I recognize how that is going to sound to anyone living in a capitalist
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society, which basically means anyone listening to this podcast. I doubt anyone listening is from
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a society that is not capitalist in its orientation economically.
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But Christians are not permitted morally to charge interest. That's usury. Usury is not
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excessive interest. Usury is interest, period. And so at this time, this was actually enforced
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in Christian lands. Christians were not allowed to charge interest. And so if you lent money,
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you got back the principle, and that was it. If you got the principle back.
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Jews were not subject to this. They weren't Christian. And so as was mentioned, it was,
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well, they're already going to hell. So why not make it a little worse for them and make money
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in the process? Of course, that was sin on the part of the Christian leaders. Getting someone
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else to sin for you is still sin. Yes, that person is sinning, but you're also sinning by proxy and
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in your own person by encouraging others to sin. You know, temptations will come,
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but woe to the person by whom they come. And so you have in the lead up to the crusades,
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as they're organizing these armies in Europe, some of the Jewish populations are purged or expelled.
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Before we saw in Spain, some of the Jews committed suicide to avoid being baptized.
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In some of the instances where the crusaders were dealing with a Jewish population,
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they would forcibly baptize them. And again, some of the Jews committed suicide
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rather than be baptized. This is how much they hate God. This is how much they hate Christ.
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They would rather commit suicide than be baptized.
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We won't dwell too much on the crusades because that's not really the point of this episode.
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So we'll move on to the middle ages, which really is the last significant time period before
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early modern and then next week we'll get into the modern. But during the middle ages, you have an
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increase in passion plays and various things like that that depict the Jews in their proper
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role in the narrative, which is to say as the killers of Christ. And they were depicted often in
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modern dress instead of traditional dress because Jews during the middle ages in many places
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had to wear special clothing to note that you were dealing with a Jew.
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In some places this took the form of a yellow star. We see that star symbol again.
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In some places it took the form of a special hat. They still have special hats today,
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but they're different from the ones they wore in the middle ages.
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But this of course leads to an increase or at least an increased awareness.
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It leads to this increase in anti-Jew sentiment amongst the Christian population
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because they start paying more attention to what the Jews are actually doing.
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And again, they're doing these things that Christians are explicitly forbidden to do.
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Things that these Christians are told are wicked, are sins. They're lending it interest.
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And you have various controversies with coin shaving and things like that because often
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they were the ones handling the currency and so sometimes they were expelled for coin shaving.
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But this is really when the trope of the Jewish moneylender solidifies itself. Yes,
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you had it earlier because they also did moneylending in the Byzantine Empire.
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They dealt with currency in the Roman Empire. You saw Jewish tax collectors.
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They played the same role in the Islamic Empire for a period of time.
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But here in Europe they are the only ones doing it because Christians are forbidden to do it.
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And so if you had to borrow money, which you probably didn't have to borrow money, but if you
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are a prince and you want to wage a war and you need to raise an army and you don't have the
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gold on hand, you go to the Jewish moneylender and he lends you the gold at interest.
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And so that's where you get the stereotype. Stereotypes of course being grounded in reality
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because they don't come from nowhere. A stereotype would be entirely useless if
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it weren't based in reality to some degree. It doesn't mean that there's a perfect correspondence
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between the stereotype and members of the stereotyped group, but there's some correspondence.
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When Germans are called krauts, okay, yes, we like cabbage. We also like sausage and beer.
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Those are stereotypes, but they're true. The Irish like potatoes, but in fairness who doesn't.
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But this is also when we see quite a few expulsions of the Jews from various places in
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Europe and you don't just have expulsions from countries. It's important to remember that because
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a number that gets tossed around sometimes is 109 or 110 or 11 depending on how you number things.
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The number is much higher because that's essentially counting the number of times
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Jews have been kicked out of countries or large areas. But Europe in the Middle Ages
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wasn't really large countries yet. You didn't have the nation states that you have today.
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You didn't have Germany. You had an area full of Germans. You didn't have Germany.
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You had various cities ruled by princes or electors or counts or margrades. It just
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depended on the era and where you were. And sometimes these political entities,
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because that was the highest political entity other than the actual emperor himself,
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who wasn't dealing with the every day of any of the cities really, except for perhaps
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an imperial city if he happened to be there. But these smaller political entities would expel the
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Jews and they would expel them for the things already mentioned, shenanigans and money lending,
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oppressive taxation where they were tax collectors, coin shaving, all of the things you expect.
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However, this is also when stories of child sacrifice and things like that start cropping
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up in Europe. They've appeared at other points in time in history related to the Jewish people
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and related to other pagans as well. You see it in the pages of scripture where scripture speaks
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about them sacrificing their sons and their daughters to the demons. Well, this resumes
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to some level, to some degree in Europe. And so you have the depiction, for instance, I cannot
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remember the child's name now, the famous saint who's depicted in artwork having been sacrificed
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by the Jews, recognized as a saint by the church at the time, the pope himself at this time, a
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better pope than we certainly have today, actually recognized this, the sacrifice of a Christian
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child to use his blood in the preparation of elements for Jewish ceremony, most likely matzah,
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or something similar. We'll include the famous painting in the show notes. I cannot remember
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the child's name right now. But as I mentioned, you have the symbols associated with the Jews
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where they're set apart. You have the yellow star here, which is really when the star becomes
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solidified as a symbol associated with the Jewish people, this six-pointed star.
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It's also a symbol that they were using themselves. It wasn't merely an epithet,
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it was it was something they used publicly. So to return to Spain, because Spain, of course,
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is still during this period, being ruled by the Muslims, the Muslims were expelled in 1492 in
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January. You probably remember that year from the rhyme you learned in school.
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But that gives you an idea of how recently Muslims were ruling a fairly large and important part
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of Europe. And so they were expelled. And as part of that, Jews were also required to convert,
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because the Jews had been under the Muslims permitted to remain Jewish and practice their
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religion and teach in their schools, study the Talmud, etc. Now that Christian rulers
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took over that territory again, resumed control over Spain,
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they were not going to tolerate the Jews, partly because the Jews had cooperated with the Muslims,
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but also because the Jews are pagans. And tolerating a wicked pagan faith is not something
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that a Christian ruler is supposed to do. And so many of the Jews fled, they went to various other
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places, some went back to the Middle East or the Near East. But this is where you see, again,
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the rootless cosmopolitan nature where they simply flee to the next place where there's an opportunity.
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This is partly where we begin to see a concentration of the European Jewish
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population in Poland. And later on, Poland will have the highest Jewish population in Europe.
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I think it's important to note that the Spanish nexus to Jewish history is important just because
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among the many tropes that we've discussed here today, you know, they're called tropes, which is
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kind of a story unto itself. How come something that is true and factual and pattern based
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suddenly just sort of becomes, oh, it's just goofy. It's a trope. I don't know. I mean,
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that's silly. Why would you say that? The Spanish Inquisition has a pretty bad brand,
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doesn't it? It's a joke. It's a punchline. And we know it's one of the worst things that's ever
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happened. But most people don't know the details, starting with the fact that it wasn't the first
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and only Inquisition. There was an Episcopal Inquisition. There was a Papal Inquisition.
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Basically, when the Roman Catholic Church needed to stamp out heresies, they began an Inquisition.
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And so the Spanish Inquisition was in this place and time in Spain where there had been these
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Spanish Jewish conversos who were living as Christians. They had been Jewish. They had
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publicly converted to Christianity. And yet there was widespread evidence that many of them were
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not, in fact, Christian. And so the Spanish Inquisition, you know, that sounds so scary,
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that was simply looking at particularly the Jews in that place who had claimed to have
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converted Christianity to see if they actually had. Were they still in secret practicing their
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true religion while lying and pretending to be Christians for the benefits that accrued to them?
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Because you had different social standing. They had different tax status, different political
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rights. It was easier for you if you're a Christian because Spain was once again a Christian country.
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And so it's interesting when you hear Spanish Inquisition, you think one is terrible.
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And when you hear that they were targeting Jews, you think, well, that must mean they were going
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after all Jews. No, it was saying, if you claim to be a Christian and your ancestry is Jewish,
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we want to make sure you're actually Christian. Because the false Christians,
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they knew from experience from things like the gates of Toledo, that if you have a group of
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these Jews in your country pretending to be on your side, at some point, there's a very good
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chance they're going to stab you in the back. And so it was wisdom on the part of the Roman
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Catholic Church, which a couple of Lutherans saying this, like, we're not fans of these guys
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in principle. But as a matter of managing a country, it's also a separate question,
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which of this should be church authority versus state authority? And frankly,
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that's why they didn't go after the Jews and the Muslims who were practicing openly.
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This was specifically within the church. That's where the Inquisition had its power.
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It wasn't principally, even in this case, a political matter. It was one of purifying the
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church of false converts. And so, yes, again, there was a diaspora from there because some
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were found out. You hear the story, oh, they were looking for crypto Jews. Did they find any?
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Yes, they found a lot of them and a lot more fled people who had said, yes, I'm Christian. I used
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to be Jewish, but my family was Jewish. I'm Christian now. As soon as the Spanish Inquisition began,
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they fled. Why would a Christian leave? It's obvious that the Spanish Inquisition worked,
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which is why it's one of those things that has such a bad brand today. It's something, again,
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it's a punchline. It's a punchline because it was sold to us as a punchline by the people that it was
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going after. Notably, that took place after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain. That was one
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of the early things that the Christian rulers did after they had reconquered Spain in March
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of the same year that they actually drove the Muslims out. They issued the edict,
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expelling notably practicing Jews. Jews who had converted, actually converted to Christianity
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were not expelled. It was only practicing Jews. They were expelling pagans. They were doing
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something that is entirely within the rights and, in fact, the duty of a Christian ruler.
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We will have a link in the show notes to a list of 1,030 expulsions of the Jews
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from both countries and regions and towns. There are dates and places and you can
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see some patterns in different places. At some point, they're expelled from Germany.
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At some point, they were expelled from England. It happened over and over again. I think one of the,
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as we mentioned earlier, one of the themes that I hope you'll get a sense of is
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if a particular group of people continually gets expelled by everyone that they encounter,
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at some point, you have to stop wondering why are they persecuting the Jews and start wondering,
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what is it about these people that no one wants to live around them? If you have a kid who gets
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expelled from 109 schools, at some point, you stop wondering if there's a problem with the school
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and start wondering maybe there's a problem with the kid. That's why this pattern is interesting,
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everywhere they went, eventually they wore out their welcome. There are other diaspora populations
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in history. There are other places where we've had cities and concentrations of a majority
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race and then a minority race. By and large, they've coexisted. There have obviously been
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flare-ups in places, but the only race in human history that has had this particular pattern
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is the Jews. It's okay to say that. It's okay to look and say, I wonder why this historical fact
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is true. I hope that as Corey and I are discussing these subjects in general, you can get the sense
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that it's possible to talk about facts without hating people. That's one of the tricks that's
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been played. When something gets categorized as racism and hatred, what does that do? It just
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means you can't talk about anything. We're just talking about history here. We're talking about
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historical facts, things that happened in our own homelands. Europe is our homeland, not Spain
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in particular. I have one Spanish ancestor from the third century, but he was a Roman consul who
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ruled part of Judea at the very end of the Roman Empire. I only know that because I think he was
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one of Charlemagne's ancestors. If you're Western European, you're descended from that guy too,
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so you have a drop of Spanish blood. The point is that Christians can speak faithfully without
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engaging in hate, without engaging in slander or desiring un-Christian outcomes by talking about
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historical facts and then looking at the present because the Jews today claim all of this. They
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claim that these are their people. They claim all of these events and say, that's us because they
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want to subscribe to the persecution, to the eternal victimhood of having been hated wherever
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they went and saying, oh, poor us. I believe that most of my life, like, okay, wow, I mean,
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some people get a raw deal. I think we all know somebody who just keeps getting kicked.
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It happens sometimes. It's not necessarily that person's fault, but when the preponderance of
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evidence is so overwhelming, at some point, it's okay to just say what's really going on here.
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That's why we began in Scripture with this. As we see, the intersection between Jewish
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malfeasance and Christian rulers trying to be faithful and ruling their lands is overwhelming.
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It's the constant pattern. As Corey said earlier, as we said, we're talking about the Muslims and
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the Jews. Whenever there's a Jew in the picture and there's a Christian in the picture, the Christian
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is going to end up on the short end of the stick. That's the pattern. We don't have to
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project into the future and say, all of this is always going to happen forever. We can say,
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wherever these people are, the same thing keeps happening. That's a fact. It's possible and
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permissible for a Christian to learn something from that and say, you know what, if the same
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people keep doing something, maybe I need to look. If we do 35 episodes and a dozen of them
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point specifically to Jews who've caused horrific problems that were bad enough that we needed to
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talk about in an episode, that's not us doing a podcast about Jews. That's doing a podcast about
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Christian issues. When Jews keep turning up, that becomes a Christian issue. What we do in
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response is also a Christian issue. You cannot hate people. You can't despise people. You can't
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malign people, but you can and must deal with them as they are. When people to this day dance in the
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blood of Christ, that's not only a religious matter, but it's also a political matter in the
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event that you actually have a Christian nation. Obviously, we don't today. We'll probably get into
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the history of why that is at some point. I hope that by presenting these topics in a calm and
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polite fashion, we can get across that these forbidden subjects have been forbidden for a
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reason. When you actually tell someone the history of what happened, it completely changes your
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perspective on the question. Just changing the perspective is the point. I don't want anyone
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to conclude that I want to go out and hurt a group of people. I don't want others to think
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that. I do want people to understand that when something keeps happening, we can expect that
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maybe in the future, we should be aware of that. That's all. That's common sense. It's wisdom,
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and it's frankly love for our own neighbors. It's love for our own blood to make sure that
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these things don't happen to our people. To be clear, because this question will definitely come up
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if we do not address it right now. You are not permitted as a Christian to hate someone
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on the basis of race, which is what Wojus said. However, you are required as a Christian to hate
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God's enemies. There's a distinction there. Just like Scripture tells us to turn the other
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cheek, we can get into the exegesis of that exactly what it means. But there are lines here.
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There are different categories, and it is important to keep them clear. For instance,
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if you are persecuted on the basis of your faith, you are to bear up under that persecution.
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That is a trial, and it is your duty to withstand that trial, to suffer for the gospel,
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to bear your cross. However, in the political realm, if you have people invading your country
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and causing problems, that's a political question. That's an entirely different
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matter. You're not turning the other cheek there, because there you have duties,
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particularly as a man, to defend your family and your nation.
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When it comes to personal enemies, you really shouldn't have a personal enemy.
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I've said before, I don't have any personal enemies. I absolutely mean that.
01:24:01.380 --> 01:24:09.940
I don't have anyone I consider a personal enemy. However, you most certainly do have enemies as a
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Christian. The world is your enemy. Satan is your enemy. The fallen flesh is your enemy.
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Those who stand against God are your enemy, and that is right, and you are to hate them.
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In the words of Scripture, you are to have a perfect hatred for them.
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I think probably the best example of that in this case is learning about this,
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is what we'll probably wind up with here, the trial of the Talmud, or the disputation of Paris,
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under King Louis IX in 1240, when a former Jew named Nicholas Donan came forward and said,
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I used to be a Jew, now I'm a Christian, let me tell you what's in the Talmud.
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Effectively, the response from Louis, I should have said Louis, not Louis, King Louis,
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and the other people even in the church was, what's the Talmud? They knew that it existed,
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and they knew that it was interpretive of the Tanakh of the Old Testament,
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but they didn't know its contents. What happened was this man put forth 35 separate
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elements of the Talmud and said, this is blasphemous, this is evil, this is what these
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people are teaching in their synagogues, in secret, which incidentally is something that
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Chrysostom had been complaining about 900 years previously. He was no fan of synagogues because
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of what went on in it. I think that's one of the tricks that gets played when all these questions
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are framed in terms of so-called antisemitism. Suddenly, it just becomes something you have
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to flee from without even looking at what you were trying to address in the first place.
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Chrysostom gets called the arch antisemite and the one who turned Christians against the Jews.
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Chrysostom was honest about what they were teaching in synagogues, and then 900 years later,
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when Donan came forward and said before King Louis IX, here is what is going on in the Talmud,
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here's what these people are preaching and teaching in secret, because at the time,
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the Talmud only existed in Aramaic or Hebrew. I don't know which one they were using at the time,
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but no one read it unless they were Hebrew. It was only because he had been raised a Jew
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that he was able to translate, and he did. That is when the real problem started,
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because the Christians knew that, yes, the Jews were not saved. They knew that they were of a
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different religion, but they believed essentially the Judeo-Christian myth. They believed that these
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Jews who claim the Old Testament and ignore the new, they're still pretty okay people. Maybe they
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have some issues, but we can coexist with them. They're not an immediate threat to Christianity.
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What came out in the trial of the Talmud was that the contents of the Talmud itself are
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utter blasphemy. They're not only utter blasphemy, but they're a direct political threat to Christians.
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It talks about things that are political, not simply religious matters. It says you can lie,
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you can cheat, you can murder a Gentile, the Goyim, us. If you're not a Jew, the rules for
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what is legal, some of them just go away. Those were the practices that they had always held,
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because those are their teachings. The Talmud and before that, the Mishnah, when it was oral and not
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written, said, here's what the scriptures actually teach, here's what the law actually says. They
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were teaching, and to this day teach in the Talmud, that the law permits horrific abuses and in some
01:27:41.940 --> 01:27:49.620
cases murder of Christians and other non-Jews just because they're not. As that was exposed,
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this was in many ways the beginning of a lot of the real problems for Jews in Europe. Now,
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it wasn't that there was false preaching, and it wasn't there was preaching of hatred.
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It was simply that a man who knew what they were preaching and saying in secret
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stood up and said, hey, did you know they're saying this stuff? And when Christians heard it,
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they were incensed, justifiably so. To be clear, we haven't even said some of the worst things that
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are in the Talmud. Maybe eventually we'll get around to an episode on some of the actual contents
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of those volumes, and it is in fact more wicked than you imagine, unless you've spent time looking
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into it. This is a good point. This is a good place to note. There are basically no other
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people on the planet who hold a grudge as well as the Jews. That is just simply a fact. That is not
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saying something mean or pejorative or wrong about them. They hold a grudge.
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They hate. It's kind of impressive. It almost is, because it's generational over centuries.
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Yeah. The dedication is impressive. And part of the reason that they hate him,
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you need to have an idea of what exactly was done here. One, it was conducted in an entirely fair
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manner, because this was held as a trial of the Talmud before the king. Four rabbis were allowed
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to defend the Talmud against the accusations of Donin.
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They failed. They did not convince the king at all. And so he ordered the copies of the Talmud
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to be rounded up and burned. They filled 24 carriages full of these. Now keep in mind,
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this is in 1240. These were all produced by hand, painstakingly produced by hand.
01:29:49.460 --> 01:29:51.380
These were extremely expensive.
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The king burned in one afternoon, the equivalent of the entire wealth of a major noble. That's
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probably about the value of what was burned. This was not a minor matter. And he basically wiped out
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the Talmud in Paris. Obviously, they had some hidden copies and they had things other places
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and they reproduced them, unfortunately. They still hate him to this day because of this.
01:30:21.780 --> 01:30:28.100
And another thing that is notable is where these volumes were burned. They were burned
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in front of Notre Dame. You may remember that not that long ago, Notre Dame caught fire.
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If you happen to be on social media at the time,
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you may remember that Jews were celebrating. They were celebrating because of this.
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In part, yes, because a church burned and they hate Christianity, they hate Christ,
01:30:46.740 --> 01:30:54.020
they hate the church. But it was partly because of a generational grudge held against King Louis
01:30:54.740 --> 01:30:55.940
for burning the Talmud.
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There are no other people on this planet who do that for that long,
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for a thousand years, nearly.
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Yeah, it's incredible. In 2020, a few people may remember that there were, as part of some of the,
01:31:11.380 --> 01:31:17.460
we need to destroy these statues of oppression protests. There were counter-protests in front
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of a statue of King Louis in St. Louis. In this country, there's a big, beautiful statue of him
01:31:23.620 --> 01:31:28.660
on horseback. There were people there. There were a number of Catholics there, commendably
01:31:28.660 --> 01:31:32.740
defending the statue, standing around and praying, and there were a bunch of protesters.
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This received worldwide attention, particularly from the Jewish press, which, while it's redundant
01:31:38.740 --> 01:31:45.060
at some point, particularly Jewish telegraph agency, J-post, all the actual Jewish-focused
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Jewish media outlets paid attention to this, and they all specifically mentioned the trial of the
01:31:50.340 --> 01:31:57.140
Talmud. Over 750 years after that happened, they still hate this man so much, that one of the
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statues that's important for them to tear down is the statue of King Louis in St. Louis. It's a
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long way from France, but it's a man who kicked them in the teeth and did damage to them because
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not only was there the immense destruction of wealth and the setback to them in terms of being
01:32:15.940 --> 01:32:22.580
able to spread their lies and their filth, but it exposed it because by having this very public
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trial, suddenly everyone knew, and this was not the last trial of the Talmud. In Barcelona,
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the Talmud was burned in the year 1263. The next year, Pope Clement IV decreed that any person caught
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with a copy in his possession be put to death in 1299 and 1309. The Talmud was publicly burned in
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Paris. In 1322, by order of Pope John XXII, the Talmud was again publicly burned. In 1415,
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Pope Martin V ordered that all copies be destroyed. During the Spanish Inquisition in 1490,
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Torquemata destroyed large-scale burnings of the Talmud. This caught on, and when a Jew tells
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the story, they say, oh, there is this European hatred of Jews, it was so unfair. The actual story
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was that for the first time since the Talmud had been written down, since it translated from the
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secret teachings of the Mishnah, which were orally transmitted from rabbi to rabbi,
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from teacher to teacher, Pharisee to Pharisee, whatever, when it became, when they shifted
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to the rabbinic school and they recorded the Talmud and started putting all this stuff down,
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it was still not until 1240 that any of it had been translated into a language that a Christian
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could read. So 1240 is effectively the first time that Christians had any idea what Jews had been
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up to for over 1200 years. And longer than that, because frankly, when you look at the stuff in
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there, I believe them that the Talmud includes things that had been taught by the Pharisees in
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the centuries preceding Christ, not all of them, because there were some believers among the Jews
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in that day. So there were indeed Christians who were believing the scripture and not believing
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the Talmud. In fact, this man himself was one of them. The story of his life was that he
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believed the Old Testament and he rejected the Talmud, and that's how he ended up getting
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excommunicated from his Jewish community and ended up becoming Christian sometime later,
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or maybe he was Christian first, but never any event. He was convinced not only by
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the veracity of the Tanakh, but by the evil of the Talmud that Christianity had to be the true
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religion. He came to faith by despising what was written in the Talmud, and so for him it was a
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matter of conscience to tell other Christians, here's what's in this thing. And I think that's
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why I think that's such a perfect microcosm of this whole question. When we talk about Jews,
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what's going on? Is it people spreading lies and hatred, or is it people telling the truth,
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and then Christians having a righteous response to evil? It has nothing to do with their genetics,
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as far as we're concerned. I don't care who they are or what they are. I care about evil,
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and if I find that wherever I see evil in my own society, I can dig for not more than 30 seconds
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and find Jews behind it. When we're told they're only 2% of the population,
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at some point that matters to Christians. I hate evil. God commands me to hate evil.
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God is in my heart. I hate evil. It's got nothing to do with the people who are perpetrating it.
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Corey and I have both been personal victims of tremendous evil just in the last couple months.
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I don't bear a grudge against any of the men who participated in doxing me,
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or any of the other harmful things that they've attempted to do. I don't bear a grudge. I pity
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them. And I ask God for my sake, not to punish them. They're unrepentant. They hate God with
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all their hearts. They're going to burn in hell, because regardless of what I do to seek God to
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forgive them for their sins against me, they hate him. And God will sort that out in his time. So
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men like Corey and me who are Christians, when we are actual victims of actual persecution,
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we don't need to bear a grudge, because we know the vengeance is God's.
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He's going to do a more perfect job of causing vengeance than we could ever imagine. I'm not
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going to sit around thinking about vengeance, because I don't need to. God will take care of it
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perfectly. And if that means that by some miracle, these men come to faith and become
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Christians, in some case again, thank God, I'd love to see him in heaven, and hope we can laugh
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about how stupid it was that they would try to dox and murder someone for a podcast,
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because it is really stupid. It's sad. But I'm not mad about it. That is a Christian response.
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These people have a different response. Someone tells the truth about them in its
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centuries and millennia of murder. That's a spiritual fruit. And to go back to what
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we were saying earlier on, the quotes from Jesus, John 8.44, Revelation 2.9, Revelation 3.9,
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these are the synagogue of Satan. They're the congregation of Satan. They're Satan's children,
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particularly. This isn't something that was said of the Greeks in that day, who were pagans,
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or the Romans who were pagans. They were worshiping demons as well. And yet they were not called
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children of Satan by God's prophet, by Paul, or by Jesus himself. It was specifically the Jews
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who were called the children of Satan. And so for 3,500 years, we have them practicing black magic
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and worshiping demons, intermittently in some cases, and some have repented and become Christian.
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Again, it's just as we talked last week about how salvation does not come through DNA. It comes
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through faith. The opposite is also true. Although a generational curse was called down by those Jews
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upon every Jew since then, anyone who is covered in the blood of Christ in righteousness and
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forgiveness, their sins are wiped away. They cease to be a Jew and they have access to salvation by
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God's mercy. That's what I wish for everyone. These are such stupid things for people to go to
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hell for, and they will, and they do. That's terrible. Being mad at a dead king from France
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and burning in hell because of your hatred, what a stupid thing. What a stupid thing. What a hopelessly
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foolish thing. My response is just, well, I would beg them to stop, but I know they won't because
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that's the point. They've been doing it for thousands of years. They're not going to stop.
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So we as Christians, when we have these people in our lands, have to find Christian ways of dealing
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with evil. That's part of why we focused in some cases on talking about things like Christian
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nationalism, about the fact that individuals like Cory and I have no duty. We have no vocation to
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fix these problems. We do have a vocation to tell the truth about them, to tell the truth about
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everything. It's not like we just want to talk about black people or Jews or DNA or
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whatever. I find these topics tedious. But at the same time, they're important because they're
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forbidden. When something is forbidden and it's forbidden against Christians when it's true,
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that's where the investigation needs to be kicked off. It's not for the sake of the titillating
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factor of some forbidden knowledge. This is not occult knowledge. It's simply people are up to
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no good. Christians need to know about that in our lives, in our communities, and as they're
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influencing us. If you know that every drop of media that you consume has been created by people
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who hate God and hate you and want you destroyed, maybe it changes some of your consumer habits.
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That's salutary. That's it. As far as what a prince does, a godly prince, that's neither of us.
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That's not our problem. That's not our purview. But telling other Christians to beware of evil
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is every Christian's duty. A Christian who fails to warn another Christian about evil
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is failing to be Christian. It's got nothing to do with name calling or hatred or anything else.
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It's saying, if there's evil in your midst, beware and deal with it in a Christian way.
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I want to emphasize that point about relative percentages. If you are dealing with a population,
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let's say it's made up of two different groups, A and B, and you have some bad thing that happens
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at a rate of 10% in your population. If 5% is from group A and 5% is from group B,
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you don't need to look at either group specifically. You look at the problem and try to address the
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problem. The root causes whatever they happen to be. If, in the alternative, 90% of that 10%
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problem occurs with group A, it is warranted to take a particular look at group A and what
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group A is doing with its time, why you have this problem in this particular group.
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An example of this would be in the US, according to NIH data, 60 to 75% of new HIV cases every year
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are amongst homosexual men, among sodomites. You should probably look at that because they are
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less than 10% significantly less than 10% in the older generations. There are some very real
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problems with the younger generations, although there are some self-reporting errors, but they
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are significantly less than 10% of the population. They should not be three-quarters of those who
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are diagnosed with this particular disease, except of course we know that it is due to their
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behavior. And so it is warranted to look at the behavior of that group and see why in this case
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this particular consequence of a particular kind of sin is affecting them.
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When it comes to the Jews, as was mentioned, they are about 2% of the US population.
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Depends where you are, they congregate in various areas. I could name them, but most likely you
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know them. If you find them at the root of almost every problem, major societal problem we have
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been discussing so far, if you find them at the root of the so-called Civil Rights Act, if you find
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them at the root of feminism, if you find them at the root of abolitionism, if you find them at the
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root of atheism, if you find them at the root of all of the court attempts to remove God from our
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public life, if you find them in the cases that legalized abortion and homosexual marriage so
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called, and all of these various other things, and they're 2% of the population, it is warranted
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to look more closely at what they are doing. That's akin to what happened in the disputation
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of Paris. Donine came to the king, obviously came to someone under the king first, you don't just
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walk up to the king, but Donine got this information to the king about what the Jews were doing,
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and so given the information about what was going on, it was warranted for him as a Christian,
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particularly as a Christian ruler, to investigate what was happening.
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All we're doing in this episode and so many others is looking at the facts through a Christian lens,
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comparing what we see in the world to what we see in scripture, what scripture commands us to do,
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and what we as a people are doing, what we as a church are doing, and what others out in the world,
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as their various groups are doing. If you find a group that is continually opposed to the church,
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that is continually opposed to God, that hates God with a hatred, you probably
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couldn't manage to summon for your worst enemy if you happen to have a personal enemy, not to
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resurrect that topic again. If you keep finding the same group, they warrant additional scrutiny.
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And as we have demonstrated conclusively, when you look at these problems, you keep finding Jews.
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We're not saying it's because of their ethnicity, because of their DNA. We're not saying it's because
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of race. Now, there may be some predilections there that play into it, because obviously,
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as we went over in the episodes on race, genetics affects certain personality characteristics,
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certain attributes, and those do play into things. For instance, you have more neuroticism amongst
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the Jewish population. That's not a stereotype. I mean, it is a stereotype, but it's also just
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statistically true. As I've mentioned before, I used to do psychology. So I have studied these
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things. You have certain psychological ailments that are more common in various populations,
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and so that does play into some of this in some ways. But when it comes to the Jews,
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the biggest thing is that they have maintained this particular wickedness over a course of centuries
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because they rejected Christ. That was the big inflection point. Yes, before that,
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they had all the times they were apostate and worshiped demons and sacrificed their children
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and hated God, and God killed many of them with disease and all sorts of other things.
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But it was really in Pilate's courtyard that they solidified their opposition to God by rejecting
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Christ, by crying out for him to be crucified, and choosing Barabbas, the son of the Father,
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because that's of course what Barabbas means, over the Son of Man, over the only begotten Son of God.
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And from that point, they have just doubled down again and again and again. When the temple
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was destroyed, they ran into the synagogues. Instead of having the sacrifices at the temple,
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because of course those were done, that prefigured Christ. With Christ's once-for-all sacrifice,
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the animal sacrifices were done. The temple is gone. That was God's point in utterly destroying it.
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Well, they ran into the synagogues. And so instead, now they have rabbis who teach
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not so much out of Scripture as out of what? Their interpretation of Scripture.
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But one of the most famous sayings about the Talmud, and this is a saying from Jews,
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this is not a saying Christians created, this is one of their own sayings. What the Torah forbids,
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Talmud permits. That's what they've done with the Talmud. They have inverted Scripture, inverted
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God's truth, and created a wicked satanic religion that is explicitly, vehemently,
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and virulently opposed to God and His Church. And they are not getting better with the centuries,
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because as we have pointed out before, if you continue longitudinally, and this is the case
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for an individual life, or for a nation, if you continue to worship demons, you will get worse.
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A man who engages in sexual sins in his youth can turn his life around. A man who does it for
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fifty years is very unlikely to do so. A people who worship demons for one generation can maybe turn
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that around. Perhaps their children turn back to the Lord God. But a people who worship demons
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over a course of thousands of years are very unlikely to change that behavior.
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And that is exactly what we see here. We can see the same pattern playing out over and over and over
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again. And apparently we as Christians learn very slowly. Or just forget our history and have to
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learn the lesson the hard way again. Because we're having the same problems today
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that Christian Europe had in the middle of the 1900s. They were having the same problems then
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that Europe had earlier in the 1800s. They were having the same problems then that Europe had
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in centuries past. And they were having the same problems then that the Roman Empire had.
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And it just keeps going. We don't have to repeat history. We don't have to learn
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the same lesson over and over and over again. If you have a low hanging part of your ceiling in
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your house, how many times do you have to smack your head before you learn to duck?
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As Christians, we are told to be wise. We're not told to be foolish anywhere. Being foolish
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is wrongful. Being foolish can be a sin. Don't be a fool. We are told to be wise.
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We have all this information at our disposal. Nothing we have said in this episode is particularly
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difficult to find. None of it is going to be difficult to verify. Yes, it takes some effort and
01:49:12.980 --> 01:49:18.820
some background knowledge in order to synthesize the material. But it's all out there. This is not
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hidden. We're not in the position of King Louis where a random former Jew comes to us and says,
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oh, by the way, we have access to these materials. The Talmud is online, in English. And it is
01:49:33.780 --> 01:49:38.900
actually a translation of the Talmud. They didn't play games with it. In places, it says that
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raping children is fine if they're under a certain age. It says that Christ is boiling an excrement.
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These are the kinds of things that are in there. And again, we as Christians are called to be wise
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because we have to protect ourselves, our families, our nation, and the church.
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Many of these problems have been allowed to fester for too long. And that is why we address these.
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It is the duty of Christian rulers to do what the Spanish did, to drive out the pagans and then to
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exile the pagans who will not convert. It is the duty of Christians in the church, not just pastors,
01:50:22.020 --> 01:50:27.860
not just bishops, but laymen as well, because fathers and men have duties as well in the church.
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It is the duty of men in the church to see the right doctrine is taught and that Christians
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understand these extremely salient issues. Because in the church itself, in the kingdom of the right
01:50:42.980 --> 01:50:50.100
hand, yes, it is sufficient to know right doctrine, to know the scriptures, not to believe false doctrine.
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But you don't exist just in the kingdom of the right hand. You also exist in the kingdom of
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the left hand. You have to interact in your daily life with others. You interact with the world.
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It is important as a Christian to know how you are to conduct yourself in both kingdoms.
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And is the duty of men, particularly of fathers and pastors and rulers, anyone in a position of
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authority, that authority having been granted by God, it is the duty of those men to address these
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problems. And Christians have neglected them for far too long.